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Reply #80 on: January 26, 2021, 01:28:29 PM
I had a hard time understanding how so many people could accept the Trump lies about how he won the election and results were fraud. To not only feed into his insanity but to flock to the Capitol to hear this big bag of wind urge them on and rile them up to the  point of storming the Capitol building was like mass insanity.

As if to prove how mindless this mob was, the FBI has received over 200 thousand photos, many from friends and family, of the rioters that they themselves posted to social media. So far there's been a 150 arrests with more to come.

Be interesting to see how the Justice Dept. handles these cases. Defense will also be fun to watch as the numbskulls have incriminated themselves. No wonder Trump was so bad when his supporters were so stupid.
https://www.startribune.com/this-is-me-rioters-flaunt-involvement-in-capitol-siege/600015089/

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Reply #81 on: February 11, 2021, 03:20:32 PM
I could not be more proud of anyone I’ve voted for than I am for my representative in the House right now.  He just lost his son to suicide from depression, and his daughter was at the Capital that day and was very afraid, and there he is speaking and making the case for impeachment in ways that have even the Republicans impressed.





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Reply #82 on: February 12, 2021, 06:53:48 AM
BLUE STATE BLUES - WHY THE HOUSE
FAILED TO PROVE IT'S CASE

JOEL B. POLLAK11 Feb 2021125

The House impeachment managers could not prove incitement — the central charge in the Article of Impeachment.

Then-President Donald Trump told supporters to protest “peacefully and patriotically.” No court could convict him on the facts.

So Democrats created a new standard. Trump is guilty of “inciting” the Capitol riot, they said, because he rejected the election, and he used provocative rhetoric for years.

But by that standard, Democrats would be guilty of “incitement,” too.

Democrats never accepted the result of the 2016 presidential election. Hillary Clinton “conceded” only in a formal sense. She and her deputies blamed “Russia collusion,” a conspiracy theory for which there was no real evidence.

The “Russia collusion” hoax undermined the peaceful transition of power, divided the nation, and led to violations of civil liberties. After it was debunked, neither the Democrats nor the media apologized for the hoax. Clinton, in fact, is still pushing it.

Moreover, Democrats have used provocative tactics — including violence — for years. In 2011, Democrats surrounded and occupied the Wisconsin state capitol to prevent Republicans from governing. That same year, they backed Occupy Wall Street, a lawless movement. In 2014, they embraced Black Lives Matter, which led to rioting and attacks on police. They did so again on a massive scale in 2020, as rioters burned cities, destroyed monuments, and attacked the White House.

For Democrats to judge Trump by their new standard of “incitement,” they would have had to admit that it was wrong to question the 2016 election, or to condone left-wing rioting.

But they could not. Just look at who is prosecuting Trump.

Lead impeachment manager Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) objected to the certification of the Electoral College vote in 2017, hoping to prevent Trump from being declared the winner. He also vowed to impeach Trump as soon as he took office.

Fellow impeachment manager Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-TX), who lectured the Senate this week on the need to accept losing elections, pushed the “Russia collusion” hoax. He also “doxxed” Trump donors in his congressional district in 2019.

Their colleague, impeachment manager Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA), claimed Trump was an “illegitimate” president in 2017. He also pushed “Russia collusion.” At one point, he had to apologize for mocking Trump for visiting tornado victims.

The problem with the Democrats’ “incitement” standard is that they have no credibility.


It took the Capitol riot for the Democrats to condemn political violence or to speak out on behalf of police or in defense of national monuments.

The new “incitement” standard is also too broad. It cannot be forbidden to raise questions about an election — especially in light of revelations in TIME about how a “secret” and “well-funded cabal” worked to change rules and suppress media.

The House impeachment managers told the Senators that if they did not vote to convict Trump by their new standard, there would be no accountability for the riot.

But if Democrats wanted accountability, they would not have put a trial before any investigation.

There would have been other ways to hold Trump accountable, such as a bipartisan inquiry to investigate what happened. The impeachment has poisoned future efforts to find out the truth and assign responsibility.

At one point, several Republican Senators walked out of the trial, after Raskin played clips from Trump rallies going back to 2015 to argue his supporters were violent, painting them as extremists.

They knew: if Trump is guilty of “incitement,” millions can be smeared as accomplices.

Democrats made clear that convicting Trump, and barring him from office, would blacklist a generation of conservatives.

Their case failed because they put Republicans on trial. Perhaps that was the point.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2021, 06:57:17 AM by joan1984 »

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Reply #83 on: February 12, 2021, 07:31:14 AM
Moreover, Democrats have used provocative tactics — including violence — for years. In 2011, Democrats surrounded and occupied the Wisconsin state capitol to prevent Republicans from governing.

Act 10 protests never turned violent, and it did not "prevent Republicans from governing".

https://www.nbc15.com/2021/01/07/us-congressman-says-wisconsin-act-10-protests-are-incomparable-to-capitol-hill-violence/



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Reply #84 on: February 14, 2021, 01:39:31 PM
Say what you will about MAGA, but Trumps balls aren't going to polish themselves. 😋




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Reply #85 on: July 07, 2021, 06:14:40 AM
6 months later, we need our heroes.




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Reply #86 on: July 14, 2021, 06:17:35 PM
Megyn Kelly’s comments that the insurrection has been over blown by the media just show that while you can take Megyn Kelly out of Fox, you can’t take Fox out of Megyn Kelly.



https://www.newsweek.com/megyn-kelly-says-media-hyped-capitol-riot-make-it-look-worse-it-actually-was-1609011



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Reply #87 on: July 21, 2021, 11:49:53 PM
I wonder why Nancy Pelosi rejected a couple of the Republicans for the Jan 6 Insurrection investigation?





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Reply #88 on: July 22, 2021, 10:59:59 PM
I want to know why Trump isn't facing trial for inciting violence on Jan. 6th.  Or does the paartisan show at his last impeachment trial count as a real trial so double-jeopardy applies?



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Reply #89 on: July 27, 2021, 02:48:42 PM
I want to know why Trump isn't facing trial for inciting violence on Jan. 6th.  Or does the paartisan show at his last impeachment trial count as a real trial so double-jeopardy applies?

It’s unprecedented. So who knows what the courts will decide? And I’m not a lawyer. But it seems to me an impeachment “trial” is more like a board of directors deliberating on whether to fire the CEO for burning down the headquarters building. It’s orthogonal to an actual criminal prosecution for arson.


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Reply #90 on: July 27, 2021, 03:55:15 PM
I want to know why Trump isn't facing trial for inciting violence on Jan. 6th.  Or does the paartisan show at his last impeachment trial count as a real trial so double-jeopardy applies?

It’s unprecedented. So who knows what the courts will decide? And I’m not a lawyer. But it seems to me an impeachment “trial” is more like a board of directors deliberating on whether to fire the CEO for burning down the headquarters building. It’s orthogonal to an actual criminal prosecution for arson.

It's political theater to detract from the fact that the vast majority of the public (and this includes democrats) feel that crime is out of control and that the southern border is out of control as well. Nancy feels that if they have a BIG trial and convict Trump for the third time that it will make people forget about out of control crime and out of control illegal immigration.



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Reply #91 on: July 27, 2021, 04:39:58 PM

I want to know why Trump isn't facing trial for inciting violence on Jan. 6th.  Or does the partisan show at his last impeachment trial count as a real trial so double-jeopardy applies?


Those are very legitimate questions.

I'm neither an attorney nor a Constitutional scholar (though there is one KB contributor who is both of those things), but from what I have read, proving incitement charges in a criminal court proceeding is an extremely difficult thing to do, especially given the lack of specific evidence of Trump directly ordering the attack on the Capitol Building.

Commentators on both sides of the issue have parsed every single word Trump uttered at the "Stop the Steal" rally that immediately preceded the violent attack on the Capitol, with those on the right pointing to the phrase “peacefully and patriotically” as proof of Trump's lack of legal culpability. I would argue -- and this is opinion, and not fact, and certainly not evidence -- that Trump's culpability is based on the fact that Trump should have judged the tenor of the crowd listening with rapt attention to his every word, and realized that the potential for violence after Trump told the crowd, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building."

While its true that phrase was immediately succeeded by Trump's  “peacefully and patriotically” admonition, the phrase was immediately preceded  by his loudly proclaiming "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore!" It's as if his "peacefully and patriotically" condition was offered with a nudge and a wink, and his true goal was to "fight like hell."






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Reply #92 on: July 28, 2021, 04:38:04 AM
Very compelling and emotional testimony from several Capital Police Officers today.  While I completely disagree with their politics, I have deep respect for Cheney’s and Kinzinger’s participation in the investigation.  They showed integrity and true emotion.

Meanwhile Moscow Mitch and McCarthy claimed to be too busy to watch.



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Reply #93 on: July 30, 2021, 04:30:06 AM
The more this goes on the more I hope people see it for what it really is and not what those that profit from ‘owning the libs’ falsely claim.  Time to start suing Fox and the disgusting people that perpetuate false information.








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Reply #94 on: January 06, 2022, 01:25:11 PM
One year ago today the traitor Trump and his equally traitorous Trumptards attacked a coequal branch of government.

Accountability and justice are long overdue.