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Title: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 20, 2017, 03:42:13 AM
Why won’t Donald Trump rush to tweet criticism of attacks against Muslims? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/06/19/why-wont-donald-trump-rush-to-tweet-criticism-of-attacks-against-muslims/?utm_term=.8c311655fb7d)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 20, 2017, 03:44:06 AM
Seattle police fatally shoot pregnant woman who they say confronted officers with a knife (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/19/seattle-police-fatally-shoot-black-mother-of-four-who-confronted-officers-with-a-knife/?utm_term=.dbdfe0000286)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Elizabeth on June 27, 2017, 09:01:17 PM
Seattle police fatally shoot pregnant woman who they say confronted officers with a knife (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/19/seattle-police-fatally-shoot-black-mother-of-four-who-confronted-officers-with-a-knife/?utm_term=.dbdfe0000286)

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I wonder how this will play out...??
Woman with a knife shot by police....Okay sounds logical, "But"......
Unborn baby with absolutely no say in the matters that unfolded died also.
Two lives not one were taken that day.......

Love,
Liz


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on June 27, 2017, 09:20:51 PM
Good point, Liz.

I don't know what it is about Seattle (and similarly, Portland) but in spite of the fact that they are both very liberal cities, enlightened in many respects, they both have a police culture of 'shoot first, ask questions later'. I wish that was the first questionable, and seemingly unnecessary killing by the Seattle or Portland police, but that's far from the case. And more often than not, the victim is black.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 28, 2017, 02:10:14 AM
Historical Marker of Civil-Rights Icon Emmett Till Vandalized in Mississippi (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/historical-marker-civil-rights-icon-emmett-till-vandalized-mississippi-n776991)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 28, 2017, 02:12:10 AM
Video shows Jacksonville cop threatening young black man with jail after jaywalking (http://jacksonville.com/news/public-safety/2017-06-26/video-shows-jacksonville-cop-threatening-young-black-man-jail-after)

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The Sheriff’s Office cited Florida statute 322.15(1) as to why Shipman was given a citation, but the statute only applies to drivers, not pedestrians. It states that every licensee must have his or her license on them “when operating a motor vehicle.”

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 28, 2017, 04:10:02 PM
Facebook’s Secret Censorship Rules Protect White Men from Hate Speech But Not Black Children (https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-hate-speech-censorship-internal-documents-algorithms)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 03, 2017, 03:18:36 AM
A Reddit user who wrote about stabbing Muslims is claiming credit for Trump’s CNN video
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/07/02/a-reddit-user-who-wrote-about-stabbing-muslims-is-claiming-credit-for-trumps-cnn-video/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.26654189ad00)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on July 03, 2017, 02:39:15 PM
Is death of a unborn baby illegal in Seattle? or Portland?  Who knew...

Seattle police fatally shoot pregnant woman who they say confronted officers with a knife (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/19/seattle-police-fatally-shoot-black-mother-of-four-who-confronted-officers-with-a-knife/?utm_term=.dbdfe0000286)

#Resist

I wonder how this will play out...??
Woman with a knife shot by police....Okay sounds logical, "But"......
Unborn baby with absolutely no say in the matters that unfolded died also.
Two lives not one were taken that day.......

Love,
Liz



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on July 03, 2017, 04:57:59 PM
No. It's only remarkable and prosecutable when it isn't a police officer doing the shooting.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on July 03, 2017, 05:24:24 PM
Not true that black people are 'good for nothing'...

A Man Accidentally Shot Himself And Blamed An Imaginary Black Man

He was later arrested for filing a false report.

(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_720_noupscale/58d002042c00002000fef51f.jpeg)
Arthur Palombo lied to the cops when he said a black man shot him.

A man accidentally shot himself in the stomach and decided to blame it on a black man who didn’t exist.

Arthur Palombo, 20, told police that he went to Williamsbridge Oval Park in the Bronx on Wednesday to sell an old revolver to someone he had met a few weeks earlier, according to the New York Daily News. Palombo reported that the potential buyer, a bald black man, refused to pay the $100 asking price and shot him.

After Palombo, who is Hispanic, was taken to the hospital, NYPD searched the park and found his revolver.

Investigators questioned the man again when he was released from the hospital on Thursday. Palombo recanted his story and admitted that his gun went off while it was in his jacket pocket.

Cops arrested Palombo and he was charged with weapons possession and filing a false report.

He was released Friday on $10,000 bail, according to the city’s Department of Correction.

In November, an Ohio woman and her passenger, both attorneys, used a similar lie to blame a car crash on a nonexistent “black male who lost control of the vehicle” and fled the scene, according to WKYC. Surveillance footage outside of a bar less than a mile away from the collision showed that the two were actually drunk. Both were charged with obstruction and sentenced to 10 days in jail.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/man-shot-himself-blamed-imaginary-black-man_us_58cfebaee4b0be71dcf64063


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on July 03, 2017, 06:45:47 PM
Mr. Polombo, a hispanic New Yorker of unclear citizenship status, did not vote in 2016, and would have supported Hillary Clinton, had he bothered to vote at all.
FYI.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on July 03, 2017, 07:02:17 PM
What the hell does that have to do with this thread??


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on July 03, 2017, 07:37:23 PM
Duh. Please look at the Title of the Thread, miss katiebee...

What the hell does that have to do with this thread??


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on July 03, 2017, 08:28:06 PM
Mr. Polombo, a hispanic New Yorker of unclear citizenship status, did not vote in 2016, and would have supported Hillary Clinton, had he bothered to vote at all.
FYI.
the boldest part. What relevance does that have?

Additionally, what point in context of the post you replied to were you addressing? You focused on irrelevant parts.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on July 03, 2017, 08:33:40 PM
"...Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!.

That part, Katiebee.  Are you blind?  Not that I don't like dogs as much as anyone, and if you are blind, tell me how to SHOUT out to you that the idiot in question is NOT and never was, a Trump Supporter.

MAGA

Mr. Polombo, a hispanic New Yorker of unclear citizenship status, did not vote in 2016, and would have supported Hillary Clinton, had he bothered to vote at all.
FYI.
the boldest part. What relevance does that have?

Additionally, what point in context of the post you replied to were you addressing? You focused on irrelevant parts.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on July 03, 2017, 08:37:22 PM
Who do you think you're fooling, Joan. Obviously the guy was a Trump supported because he wanted to scapegoat blacks. And before you try to make the case that all Hispanics are Democrats, I can PROVE to you that some Hispanic males have low IQs.

Nice try, though.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on July 03, 2017, 08:44:25 PM
Joan, all you stated was supposition. Athos was commenting on the political atmospherethqt Trump has fostered. He didn't have to be a Trump supporter. Trump has all but said that racism is ok by him in his political statements and attitude.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on July 03, 2017, 11:00:51 PM
Katiebee, by habit, I ignore all of Assthos posts, finding it helps my blood pressure to ignore him and his ilk as much as possible.

You asked what I was referring to and I told you. The perp in question did not vote for anyone, and he is a Hillary Supporter. While I admire him for not voting in this case, just being his fool self, as he has demonstrated, he is clearly not a Trump Supporter, the title of the theme in this thread.

As for claiming some black guy did it, well, he wanted to be believed, and had he gotten rid of the gun better, that would have been the end of it. No one will believe 'the black guy' shot him, then hid the gun in the same park. Only some Hillary Supporter would believe such a tale, think it was worthy of telling.

His demonstrated incompetence tripped him up. Thank God he and his ilk did did not bother, or had their votes "suppressed" as Democrats say, if he would not take a 2-piece and a half-pint to vote in front of the local precinct captain.

Joan, all you stated was supposition. Athos was commenting on the political atmospherethqt Trump has fostered. He didn't have to be a Trump supporter. Trump has all but said that racism is ok by him in his political statements and attitude.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 03, 2017, 11:03:50 PM
Vandals hang anti-Jewish banner at Holocaust memorial in New Jersey (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/anti-jewish-banner-holocaust-memorial-new-jersey-lakewood-synagogue/)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on July 03, 2017, 11:07:19 PM
The perp in question did not vote for anyone, and he is a Hillary Supporter.
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Bullshit. Prove it.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Lois on July 04, 2017, 01:24:53 AM
Joan is proving she is mentally ill and needs help.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 06, 2017, 01:15:28 PM
Hangman’s Noose, Symbol of Racial Animus, Keeps Cropping Up (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/us/nooses-hate-crimes-philadelphia-mint.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 08, 2017, 03:49:27 AM
Study: cities rely more on fines for revenue if they have more black residents (https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/7/7/15929196/police-fines-study-racism)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 08, 2017, 04:02:33 AM
KKK marchers say they will be armed Saturday at Charlottesville rally (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/kkk-marchers-say-they-will-be-armed-saturday-at-charlottesville-rally/2017/07/07/eba102b4-6270-11e7-8adc-fea80e32bf47_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.70e76a2e1b8a)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 13, 2017, 11:29:01 PM
Man accused of anti-Muslim hate crime breaks down in tears (http://www.kgw.com/news/crime/man-charged-with-hate-crime-after-threatening-muslim-police-say/455200289)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 13, 2017, 11:30:00 PM
Airbnb host who canceled reservation using racist comment must pay $5,000 (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/13/airbnb-california-racist-comment-penalty-asian-american)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 13, 2017, 11:31:03 PM
Two cops are accused of racially profiling Florida's only black state attorney as they struggle to explain why they pulled her over in awkward video, simply saying 'the windows are really dark' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4687728/Cops-pull-Florida-s-black-state-attorney.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on July 13, 2017, 11:38:54 PM

KKK marchers say they will be armed Saturday at Charlottesville rally (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/kkk-marchers-say-they-will-be-armed-saturday-at-charlottesville-rally/2017/07/07/eba102b4-6270-11e7-8adc-fea80e32bf47_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.70e76a2e1b8a)

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It's worth noting that this article is about what will/might happen, and not what did happen.

What DID happen is about 50 Klansmen appeared to protest the removal of the statue, and about 2,000 counter-protestors showed up to protest the Klan.

It seems, then, that, if anything, anti-racism is alive and well...and growing...






Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 13, 2017, 11:50:13 PM

It seems, then, that, if anything, anti-racism is alive and well...and growing...


Except a racist was elected President of the United States.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on July 14, 2017, 05:31:20 AM

KKK marchers say they will be armed Saturday at Charlottesville rally (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/kkk-marchers-say-they-will-be-armed-saturday-at-charlottesville-rally/2017/07/07/eba102b4-6270-11e7-8adc-fea80e32bf47_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.70e76a2e1b8a)

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It's worth noting that this article is about what will/might happen, and not what did happen.

What DID happen is about 50 Klansmen appeared to protest the removal of the statue, and about 2,000 counter-protestors showed up to protest the Klan.

It seems, then, that, if anything, anti-racism is alive and well...and growing...


Yes, MissBarbara; I thought it was pretty cool the way this worked out as well. I'm sure it's not what the Klan expected when they conceived of the whole thing. North Carolina is growing and morphing into something new, and its really neat to see. I could see myself living there. Twenty years ago I would have been aghast at the idea.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on July 14, 2017, 01:52:36 PM
This is conjecture, but I wonder if the response to the KKK march was a backlash to the perceived support that Trump has given to racists?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on July 14, 2017, 02:55:17 PM
This is conjecture, but I wonder if the response to the KKK march was a backlash to the perceived support that Trump has given to racists?

Nothing happens in a vacuum, so I don't see how Trump could not be a factor. But I would think the larger part would be residents of the place who don't want the state to be associated with old stereotypes of the South.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on July 14, 2017, 08:01:41 PM

It seems, then, that, if anything, anti-racism is alive and well...and growing...


Except a racist was elected President of the United States.


Yes, he was.

And the reaction to his election, as evidenced here (and this is one of many examples), is both effective and inspiring -- and hopeful.





Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on July 14, 2017, 08:04:40 PM

This is conjecture, but I wonder if the response to the KKK march was a backlash to the perceived support that Trump has given to racists?



Yes, that was my point.

It's not conjecture, as this is only one of many incidents that demonstrate that this backlash is happening -- and that it's effective.

Most important, this backlash is not solely occurring on the Left, as there are many mainstream (i.e. non-Conservative) Republicans who are joining in.






Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on July 14, 2017, 10:37:12 PM
I think there have been a number of organic outpourings of resistance since Trump took office which were surprising because they seemed to spring up with little warning or coordination.

So I have no trouble accepting the point.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 15, 2017, 01:42:27 AM

It seems, then, that, if anything, anti-racism is alive and well...and growing...


Except a racist was elected President of the United States.


Yes, he was.

And the reaction to his election, as evidenced here (and this is one of many examples), is both effective and inspiring -- and hopeful.





60 million people found racism an acceptable quality to be President of The United States.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on July 15, 2017, 02:29:17 AM
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"...60 million people found racism an acceptable quality to be President of The United States..."

Your word racism, but reality is every Vote for President Trump is "anyone but Hillary" vote, and in spite of his gaffs and the relentless attacks by leftist Media as well as RINO Republicans, and virtually all Democrats, he was elected, and his Voters are proud of the fact that we avoided the disaster of Hillary/Kaine that could have happened.

There was really NO pro-Hillary support of substance. Reliable Democrat States voted as they always vote, for the Dem Ticket, seemingly top to bottom, if they came out to vote at all.  The Dem Ticket swept their stronghold areas, they just did not have enough stronghold areas.

The rest of us, save some who like to throw away their votes no matter who is running, the Jill Stein and hard core Libertarians, and a few others, voted for the "non-Hillary" Candidate.

Donald Trump displaced 17 or whatever Republican Primary opponents, all with some claim to being qualified, only one or two will any real following, support for their personal positions, and even those came around to offer support to the man who was elected as our President, albeit grudgingly.

Good for ratings, keep the folks worked up, and hope it works for 2018, with nothing more to offer... desperate tactics, and will see how it turns out.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 15, 2017, 02:45:37 AM
You've always been a racist and your positions on this board validate that.

It's no surprise you'd find him acceptable.

Have you washed your white hood and rebel flag lately?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Lois on July 15, 2017, 01:53:14 PM
There was really NO pro-Hillary support of substance.

Hillary won the popular vote by nearly 3 million.  This is plenty of substance.  And before you say that our Presidents are not elected by the popular vote, I know that.  But that does not make the popular vote unimportant.  Trump cannot claim to have a "landslide" or a "mandate from the American People" without it.

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Donald Trump displaced 17 or whatever Republican Primary opponents, all with some claim to being qualified, only one or two will any real following, support for their personal positions, and even those came around to offer support to the man who was elected as our President, albeit grudgingly.

The GOP put up a list of idiots and generally unelectable persons.  Rising to the top of that list did not mean so much.



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on July 15, 2017, 06:12:44 PM
  Hillary decided to coast, and won lots of votes in very few places, overall.

  The 57 Counties, nationwide, who favored Hillary Clinton turned out her 60 odd million 'popular' votes, and the 3,084 Counties, nationwide, who favored (the Non-Hillary) Donald Trump, gave the President his 60 add million popular vote count, in addition to the overwhelming Electoral votes which the contest was all about.

  Who knows what may have happened had Hillary be able, or willing, to visit those places she took for granted, whole States never visited at all, while she chose to raise money and visit with her friendly audiences at home, and on the left coast, in abandonment of so many U.S. Citizens who simply did not believe her, and refused to vote for her.

  Even more alarming in a way is Senator Bernie Sanders, Socialist who spent his honeymoon in Russia, and preaches leftist ideas, some may say crackpot ideas about total Government funding for everything, while having a record of only about 4 or so successful laws introduced that got passed in all his years in Congress, and who drew over 45% of Democrat votes in the Primary.

  Hillary who lies without a second though, and gets a pass for it legally in her long career, could not bring herself to fully embrace all of Sanders ravings, and did not carry many of his supporters in the general election, who either stayed home, or voted for Jill Stein or some equivalent leftist entity.

  I give Hillary her due. Her most avid supporters, and avid Democrats turned out for her in her true base States. The examination of our electorate records now underway may give us all greater understanding of the validity of the vote and those Registered to vote, and help explain California and a few other spots who favored one or another of the Candidates this time around.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 15, 2017, 08:11:51 PM
Hillary Clinton is not the subject of this thread.  Trump, as president, his racism and his racist followers such as yourself are.  Please try to stay on topic.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 15, 2017, 11:07:20 PM
Michigan official stands by call for killing of all Muslims (http://www.nbc-2.com/story/35867978/michigan-official-stands-by-call-for-killing-of-all-muslims)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 18, 2017, 12:16:12 AM
Ex-Texas officer indicted on murder charge in teen's death (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-texas-officer-indicted-murder-20170717-story.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on July 18, 2017, 02:04:08 AM
  Please don't nag. You have no control over Member comments here.

Hillary Clinton is not the subject of this thread.  Trump, as president, his racism and his racist followers such as yourself are.  Please try to stay on topic.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 18, 2017, 02:11:12 AM
  Please don't nag. You have no control over Member comments here.

Hillary Clinton is not the subject of this thread.  Trump, as president, his racism and his racist followers such as yourself are.  Please try to stay on topic.

#Resist

I see you are back to being a hypocrite again.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on July 18, 2017, 04:13:43 AM
Joan, it is really bad form to hijack a thread. To do so while responding to a previous post is something that happens. Your post was so far afield it was miles from the ballpark and had little to do with the thread or previous posts.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Lois on July 18, 2017, 04:18:20 AM
It is clear sign of Joan's desperation that she keeps trying to change the subject. 


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 19, 2017, 03:11:41 AM
No third trial for ex-UC cop Ray Tensing in shooting death of unarmed motorist Sam DuBose (http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2017/07/18/no-third-trial-ex-uc-cop-ray-tensing-shooting-death-unarmed-motorist-sam-dubose/487763001/)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 20, 2017, 05:31:18 AM
Fla. mayoral candidate had a message for activists who want reparations: ‘Go back to Africa’ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/07/19/fla-mayoral-candidate-had-a-message-for-activists-who-want-reparations-go-back-to-africa/?utm_term=.7fea21405d67)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 25, 2017, 01:06:35 PM
WATCH: NRA TV hosts warn ‘white families’ will be ‘tortured and killed’ if Black Lives Matter succeeds (http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/watch-nra-tv-hosts-warn-white-families-will-be-tortured-and-killed-if-black-lives-matter-succeeds/)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 27, 2017, 02:28:06 AM
WATCH: Texas police officer harasses black teen for mowing grass (http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/watch-texas-police-officer-harasses-black-teen-for-mowing-grass/)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 28, 2017, 01:21:33 AM
Denison teen indicted for false claim that she was kidnapped, raped (http://www.heralddemocrat.com/news/20170726/denison-teen-indicted-for-false-claim-that-she-was-kidnapped-raped)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 01, 2017, 11:41:03 PM
‘I don’t like racism at all’: ‘Bachelorette’ contestant tries to defend his tweets (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/08/01/i-dont-like-racism-at-all-the-bachelorette-contestant-tries-to-defend-his-tweets/?utm_term=.04f9f8997f39)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 02, 2017, 11:34:22 PM
Cop Shares Racist Facebook Post, Will Resign After Public Outcry (http://www.theroot.com/cop-shares-racist-facebook-post-turns-in-resignation-a-1797450272)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 02, 2017, 11:58:30 PM
Facebook’s Complicity in the Silencing of Black Women (https://medium.com/@IjeomaOluo/facebooks-complicity-in-the-silencing-of-black-women-e60c34434181)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 03, 2017, 12:11:33 AM
Trump nominee Sam Clovis blasted progressives as 'race traders' and 'race traitors' in old blog posts (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/02/politics/kfile-sam-clovis-blog-posts/index.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on August 03, 2017, 04:01:46 PM
“There’s no doubt that Trump has opened up this Pandora’s box” –> Taryn Luna reports for The Sacramento Bee that “a fervent group of Trump supporters, who disrupt Democratic town halls and other political forums in Southern California,” have set their sights on the Golden State’s minority legislators, targeting them with racist abuse and threats. “From town halls to Twitter,” writes Luna, “threats and inappropriate communication to legislators have increased since the start of the session in January, said Debbie Manning, chief sergeant-at-arms for the California Senate. Last year her team investigated about 200 total threats and inappropriate contacts with legislators. Manning said the Senate sergeants have already surpassed that number in the first seven months of 2017. Her office doesn’t tally whether the threats or contacts are racially motivated, although she said it’s clear that some legislators are targeted based on their ethnicity more than others.”


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on August 03, 2017, 07:08:35 PM
Race Baiters, too! Don't leave that one out. Speak truth to power.
#Resist!


Trump nominee Sam Clovis blasted progressives as 'race traders' and 'race traitors' in old blog posts (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/02/politics/kfile-sam-clovis-blog-posts/index.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 06, 2017, 10:35:06 PM
FBI: IED Responsible For Explosion At Bloomington Islamic Center (http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/08/05/bloomington-islamic-center-blast/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 09, 2017, 02:22:43 AM
Trump adviser comments on mosque bombing by criticizing ‘the left’ (http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2017/08/trump-adviser-comments-on-mosque-bombing-by-criticizing-the-left/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 09, 2017, 03:12:13 AM
Trump adviser comments on mosque bombing by criticizing ‘the left’ (http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2017/08/trump-adviser-comments-on-mosque-bombing-by-criticizing-the-left/)

#Resist

From: http://www.salon.com/2017/08/08/sebastian-gorka-defends-trumps-silence-on-minnesota-mosque-bombing-it-could-be-a-fake-hate-crime/

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Gorka went on to say that “we’ve had a series of crimes committed, alleged hate-crimes, by right-wing individuals in the last six months that turned out to actually have been propagated by the left.” Gorka did not cite any specific instances to back up his claim. “When people fake hate crimes in the last six months with some regularity, it’s wise to find out what exactly is going on before you make statements, when they could turn out to be not who you are expecting.”

The real problem is that this incident does not fit the right-wing narrative, so it will be ignored.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 12, 2017, 08:39:52 PM
White nationalists ordered to leave Va. park before planned ‘Unite the Right’ rally (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fights-in-advance-of-saturday-protest-in-charlottesville/2017/08/12/155fb636-7f13-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html?nid&utm_term=.f42e2e0328d6)

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“Things were getting out of hand in the skirmishes between the alt-right and what I would describe as the outside agitators who wanted to encourage violence,” Toscano said, referring to the counterprotesters.

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After police ordered everyone to vacate the park, columns of white nationalists marched out, carrying Confederate and Nazi flags as they headed down Market Street in an odd parade.

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 12, 2017, 08:52:52 PM
White nationalists ordered to leave Va. park before planned ‘Unite the Right’ rally (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fights-in-advance-of-saturday-protest-in-charlottesville/2017/08/12/155fb636-7f13-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html?nid&utm_term=.f42e2e0328d6)

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“Things were getting out of hand in the skirmishes between the alt-right and what I would describe as the outside agitators who wanted to encourage violence,” Toscano said, referring to the counterprotesters.

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After police ordered everyone to vacate the park, columns of white nationalists marched out, carrying Confederate and Nazi flags as they headed down Market Street in an odd parade.

#Resist



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BREAKING NEWS, 2:33 p.m. At least six pedestrians were struck in a crash involving multiple vehicles in Charlottesville, according to the city government’s Twitter account. Matthew Korbon of Charlottesville said he was standing 10 feet from where the crash happened. He saw a car at high speed rear-end another car, then back up and plow through pedestrians. Charlottesville police said at least three vehicles were involved in the incident.

Video:

https://twitter.com/brennanmgilmore/status/896434516260212737


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 12, 2017, 09:32:10 PM
After Violence, Cops Break Up ‘Unite the Right’ Hatefest Before It Even Starts (http://splinternews.com/after-violence-cops-break-up-unite-the-right-hatefes-1797781276)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 12, 2017, 09:33:21 PM
Neo–Nazi Torch Rally Ends in Violence in Charlottesville (http://splinternews.com/neo-nazi-torch-rally-ends-in-violence-in-charlottesvill-1797779401)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 12, 2017, 09:35:10 PM
Who are the alt-right leaders behind Virginia rally? (http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/who-are-the-alt-right-leaders-behind-virginia-rally/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 13, 2017, 12:38:01 AM
STATE OF EMERGENCY DECLARED (http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/car-plows-into-crowd-on-downtown-mall-near-unite-the/article_ef4ba358-7f6a-11e7-84cf-8f840f442510.html)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHDq66MXgAEej3Q.jpg:large)

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 13, 2017, 01:01:55 AM
Make no mistake. The NAZI's and Klansmen were trying to provoke a race war.  They went to provoke violence.

For those that protested peacefully, I applaud them.

For those who played into the hands of the racists and offered up violence, shame on you.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 13, 2017, 01:13:13 AM
STATE OF EMERGENCY DECLARED (http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/car-plows-into-crowd-on-downtown-mall-near-unite-the/article_ef4ba358-7f6a-11e7-84cf-8f840f442510.html)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHDq66MXgAEej3Q.jpg:large)

#Resist

The title of this articles should be:

"Right-wing terrorist shows affinity with ISIS"

I mean this is what ISIS has been doing in Europe right? 



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 13, 2017, 02:18:42 AM
Things President Trump Has Condemned Other Than White Nationalists (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/things-trump-has-condemned-other-than-white-nationalists.html)

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here’s a brief and certainly incomplete collection of some of the various people, things, and entities that the president has spoken out against by name since taking office:

- Opinion polls that are unflattering to him

- Nordstrom

- The “fake news” media

- Specifically “CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, NYTIMES & WAPO”

- Meet the Press host Chuck Todd

- The New York Times

- The “fake” reporting on his campaign’s potential collusion with Russia

- The “witch hunt” that is the investigation into his campaign’s potential collusion with Russia

- #FraudNewsCNN

- Leakers

- Anonymous sources

- Senator Lisa Murkowski

- Senator John McCain

- Senator Lindsey Graham

- All Senate Republicans

- Congress

- Former attorney general Loretta Lynch

- His own attorney general, Jeff Sessions

- Acting FBI director Andrew McCabe

- Former FBI director James Comey

- The FBI

- “Fake tears” Cryin’ Chuck Schumer

- Nancy Pelosi

- Congressman Adam Schiff

- Senator Richard Blumenthal

- Barack Obama

- Hillary Clinton

- John Podesta

- Democratic congressional candidate Jon Ossoff

- Democrats in Congress

- Obamacare

- North Korea’s unsuccessful missiles

- North Korea

- Qatar

- China

- Mexico

- Canada

- London mayor Sadiq Khan

- “Crazy Joe Scarborough and dumb as a rock Mika”

- Morning Joe

- Arnold Schwarzenegger

- Snoop Dogg

- Mark Cuban

- “Celebs”

- Kathy Griffin

- The Ninth Circuit Court

- Transgender military service members

- Chelsea Manning

- M3-13 gang members

- The idea that his first 100 days in office were of symbolic significance

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on August 13, 2017, 03:14:33 PM
San Antonio Yesterday... practically my backyard... SCARY.  Didn't we fight a war 150 years ago to resolve this?

(https://www.texasobserver.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/IMG_20170812_150401-759x569.jpg)

(https://www.texasobserver.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/IMG_20170812_145434-360x270.jpg)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: IdleBoast on August 13, 2017, 04:07:53 PM
Has the Charlottesville driver been labelled as a terrorist yet?

Or just a misguided lone gunman with psychological issues?



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 13, 2017, 04:13:58 PM
He's a straight white male.

That should tell you all you need to know.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 13, 2017, 04:53:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHDPMroXoAMACvq.jpg:large)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 13, 2017, 04:59:39 PM
Her Name Is Heather Heyer, and She Died Protesting Bigotry (http://splinternews.com/her-name-is-heather-heyer-and-she-died-protesting-bigo-1797795164)

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Friends and relatives have identified the victim of Saturday’s domestic terrorist attack in Charlottesville as 32–year–old paralegal Heather Heyer, a native of Virginia.

According to initial news reports and social media accounts, Heyer was crossing the street to join an anti–racist protest when she was struck, along with dozens of others, by a sports car driven by 20–year–old James Alex Fields Jr., a white, radical, homegrown terrorist and Trump supporter from Maumee, OH.

Nineteen others were injured in the attack, many of them seriously. Fields was arrested and charged with one count of second–degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding, and one count of hit–and–run, according to The Washington Post, citing local police.

As of Sunday morning, a GoFundMe campaign established to support Heyer’s family had already exceeded its goal of raising $50,000. “Heather Heyer was murdered while protesting against hate. We are raising money to give to her family for anything that they may need,” the campaign states.

“She died doing what was right. My heart is broken, but I am forever proud of her,” Heyer’s mother said, according to the GoFundMe page.

On Heyer’s Facebook page, a profile photo posted last November states, “If you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention.”

A separate GoFundMe campaign started by the co–chair of the Anchorage chapter of Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) to help pay medical bills for those who were injured in the attack has so far raised over $100,000.

The attack occurred after the violent “Unite the Right” rally organized by neo–Nazi groups, members of the KKK, and other right–wing bigots was declared unlawful and broken up by police. The chaos and violence became so bad that Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe declared a state of emergency before the rally had even officially started.

As counterdemonstrators, including members of Black Lives Matter, DSA, and Antifa, prepared for a peaceful early–afternoon march through the streets of downtown Charlottesville, Fields, who was identified in photos published on social media as having participated in the white supremacist protest earlier in the day, drove his gray Dodge Challenger at a high speed into the crowd, striking dozens of people and several cars. The attack was captured on several videos shared online, and Fields, who fled the scene, was later caught and arrested.

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 13, 2017, 09:22:49 PM
This is a picture of the white supremacists that showed up on Saturday.  They say a picture tells a thousand words.  Do they look like peaceful demonstrators?  Or do they look like people ready to start a war?

(http://i.imgur.com/wqyHMrh.jpg)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 13, 2017, 09:36:22 PM
Enough of the Confederate statues, the alt-right heroes and Trump’s moral idiocy (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/08/12/enough-of-the-confederate-statues-the-alt-right-heroes-and-trumps-moral-idiocy/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.0749822c056c)

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Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D), who had declared a state of emergency in the morning, said at an evening news conference that he had a message for “all the white supremacists and the Nazis who came into Charlottesville today: Go home. You are not wanted in this great commonwealth.”

Not only McAuliffe but also many other politicians, both Democrats and Republicans, deplored the white nationalists and the mayhem they created, many of them telling the president he needed to denounce the hate-mongers. Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) and Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) — who went a step further, calling for a Justice Department investigation of domestic terrorism — were among them. (Later Saturday evening, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that the FBI and U.S. attorney would be investigating.) President Trump and Vice President Pence did not take their advice. Instead, they hid behind ambiguity and moral equivalence.

As news broke of a terrorist attack in Paris in November 2015, Trump immediately tweeted that he was praying for “the victims and hostages.”  Very soon after a shooting at an Orlando nightclub in June 2016, Trump tweeted that he was “right on radical Islamic terrorism.”

But he kept quiet Saturday morning as a protest led by white nationalists, who arrived with torches and chants in Charlottesville, on Friday night, turned violent. The cable networks that he usually watches showed footage of increasingly violent clashes between the white nationalists, some of whom looked like soldiers because they were so heavily armed, and the counterprotesters who showed up to challenge them.


When he belatedly spoke up, all he could muster was a vague tweet (“We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Let’s come together as one!”) and then a despicable statement evincing the kind of moral equivalence Republicans used to denounce. (“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides.” In case you missed that, he repeated, “On many sides.”) In yet another tone-deaf tweet, he declared, “Condolences to the family of the young woman killed today, and best regards to all of those injured, in Charlottesville, Virginia. So sad!” Sad?? His stilted, off-key lines betray his lack of empathy and failure to comprehend the gravity of the moment.

This is not the first time Trump has played footsie with white nationalists. During the campaign, he initially pleaded ignorance of David Duke’s racism in an interview with Jake Tapper. He played to white nationalists’ fears of illegal immigrants, demonized Mexicans, made racist accusations against a federal judge, falsely accused illegal immigrants of causing a crime wave, and refused to apologize for anti-Semitic imagery. Once in office, he hired alt-right darlings including Stephen K. Bannon (who bragged that he had made Breitbart a “platform for the alt-right”) and Sebastian Gorka. As president, he has channeled the white racists’ “blood and soil” concept of nationalism in his speeches and encouraged white, Christian, working-class Americans to think of themselves as victims and to see their religion as under attack — while he championed a Muslim travel ban. Pence on Saturday was no better, sending out a mealy-mouthed tweet: “Karen & I saddened by the loss of lives in Charlottesville. Thoughts & prayers w/ families of officers & young woman. Also w/ injured victims.”


Trump did not tell the white nationalists to go to Charlottesville or to commit violence. But his campaign and presidency have given white nationalists cover, oxygen and the dream of respectability. And now, when the moment calls for some semblance of presidential leadership and denunciation of racists, he cannot bring himself to criticize a group that is unarguably part of his base (not a majority, but among his strongest fans).

This kind of stomach-turning display of moral obtuseness is precisely what opponents of Trump predicted when they warned that he was unfit for the presidency. House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) on Saturday denounced white nationalism as a “scourge,” but he supported Trump even after Trump attacked a federal judge and Gold Star, Muslim parents. What did Ryan think America was getting?

The GOP supporting a racist candidate then being surprised the asshole doesn't speak out against racism is hypocrisy.

Fuck those people.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 13, 2017, 09:54:51 PM
Alleged driver of car that plowed into Charlottesville crowd was a Nazi sympathizer, former teacher says (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/one-dead-as-car-strikes-crowds-amid-protests-of-white-nationalist-gathering-in-charlottesville-two-police-die-in-helicopter-crash/2017/08/13/3590b3ce-8021-11e7-902a-2a9f2d808496_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.6f552506360f)

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Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, a Trump supporter who was in Charlottesville on Saturday, quickly replied. “I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists,” he wrote.

Asked by a reporter in New Jersey whether he wanted the support of white nationalists, dozens of whom wore red Make America Great Again hats during the Charlottesville riots, Trump did not respond.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 13, 2017, 09:58:06 PM
Fuck Nazis: On The Events in Charlottesville and the Alt-Right in General
by Ikonoclast

Let me be unambiguous: If the events in Charlottesville inspire in you anything but revulsion, horror, and rage at the resurgence of open white supremacy and at the vicious behavior and ideology of those marching; if your initial - or worse, your considered - response is ANYTHING resembling "Well the violence exists on all sides," you need to take a hard look inside and start unfucking yourself right now.

If you SUPPORT the resurgent American Nazi movement that tries to rebrand itself as the "Alt-Right," if you are the sort of human scum that thinks white supremacy and "ethnic purity" are noble, just, or really anything but hideous, vile garbage; if you fantasize about the day when your "Revolution" will restore America to an imaginary, gloriously white past, know this:

We are not friends.

We are not family.

We are not on the same side of this war.

I will stand between you and the people you seek to harm; I will fight and, if necessary, I will die in their defense. I will not stand idly by while you dismantle my country. I will not be silent, or sedentary, while you rob them of theirs.

Fuck fascism.

Fuck racism.

Fuck bigotry.

Fuck hate.

Fuck the alt-right.

Fuck white supremacy.

Fuck Nazis.

And if you think there is room for nuance here, if you find fight talk and a few dirty words more offensive than the fact that a bunch of honest-to-Christ Nazis just marched in Charlottesville, and a counter-protester died in an attack by one of their supporters?

Fuck you too.

I am out of patience for milquetoast responses to evil. This is not the time to sip tea, lift our pinkies, and invite these VERMIN for a fireside chat; it is time to stand up, get in their faces, and make clear that they do not represent us, that they do not speak for us, that their ideas are abhorrent and wrong, and that we - yeah, WE, fellow white people - will not let them harm people of color or those whose religious beliefs, ethnic background, sexual orientation or gender identity make them a minority.

Stand up, or get the fuck out. If you can't summon the courage to denounce NAZIS, you're not worth my goddamn time. You're not worth my acknowledgment or respect.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 13, 2017, 10:03:16 PM
One group loved Trump’s remarks about Charlottesville: White supremacists (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/08/13/one-group-loved-trumps-remarks-about-charlottesville-white-supremacists/?utm_term=.13e03031778a)

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But Trump’s choice of words — and the silence that preceded them — are being cheered by at least a few groups of people: neo-Nazis and white nationalists.

On the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website, updates about Saturday’s events unfolded quickly, as hundreds of mostly young, white men who had gathered in Charlottesville to stage a rally to “take America back” clashed with counterprotesters.

“WE HAVE AN ARMY!” the website posted to a live blog shortly after 11 a.m., along with photos of people carrying Confederate flags and neo-Nazi paraphernalia. “THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A WAR!”

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Less than half an hour after Trump’s live remarks, the Daily Stormer had declared the president’s words as a signal of tacit support for their side:

Trump comments were good. He didn’t attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us.

He said that we need to study why people are so angry, and implied that there was hate … on both sides!

So he implied the antifa are haters.

There was virtually no counter-signaling of us at all.

He said he loves us all.


The neo-Nazi live blog also noted that Trump had refused to respond when a reporter asked about white nationalists who supported him.

“No condemnation at all,” the Daily Stormer wrote. “When asked to condemn, (Trump) just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.”

It was far from the first time white supremacists had signaled their support for Trump. Earlier Saturday, former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke replied to Trump, suggesting the president was attacking “White Americans being targeted for discriminated (sic).”

“I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists,” Duke tweeted to Trump.

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As The Post’s Jenna Johnson and John Wagner reported, Trump’s presidential campaign excited many white nationalists:

They rallied behind his promises to build a wall on the southern border, reduce the number of foreigners allowed into the country and pressure everyone in the country to speak English and say “Merry Christmas.” And they celebrated Trump selecting Stephen K. Bannon as his chief strategist, who formerly ran the right-wing Breitbart News and advocated for what he calls the “alt-right” movement.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 14, 2017, 01:51:45 AM
We need to stop acting like Trump isn’t pandering to white supremacists (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/13/16140504/trump-charlottesville-white-supremacists)

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When President Donald Trump is upset with you, he will let you know. This has been a hard rule about Trump — to the point it’s hard to believe any feud is too petty or too far for him. From Rosie O’Donnell to the family of a dead US military veteran, Trump has been ready to condemn just about everyone who gets in his way.

A couple weeks into his presidency, Trump even bashed the US retailer Nordstrom on Twitter: “My daughter Ivanka has been treated so unfairly by @Nordstrom. She is a great person — always pushing me to do the right thing! Terrible!” There, he used the power of the White House to attempt to throw a job-creating US company under the bus just because it had let go of his daughter’s clothing line.

But when it comes to white supremacists, Trump’s statements are uncharacteristically tepid.

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We can never truly say what’s in Trump’s heart and mind. But there’s a pattern here: Time and time again, when Trump has a chance to condemn white supremacists, he panders to them instead. And that pandering is unlike what he does with nearly any other people and groups he dislikes.

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There have been many, many articles written about how no feud is too petty for Trump. The New York Times, for instance, keeps an ongoing count of all the people, places, and things that Trump has insulted on Twitter. As of late July, he had bashed more than 350 people, places, and things.

Of course, Trump doesn’t just randomly insult people on Twitter; he often does it with his mouth too.

It’s helpful to look at some of the people Trump has bashed over the past few years. This list is by no means comprehensive, but it gives you a pretty good indication of how vast Trump’s feuds spread:

The Khans, the family of a Muslim military veteran who was killed in action
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Alec Baldwin
The cast of Hamilton
Meryl Streep
Rosie O’Donnell
Samuel L. Jackson
Whoopi Goldberg
Mark Cuban
Paulina Vega, former Miss Universe
Anderson Cooper
Joe Scarborough
Megyn Kelly
Nordstrom
Bandon Dunes Golf Resort
Gonzalo Curiel, a US judge who oversaw a Trump University case
James Comey, former FBI director
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
John McCain, Republican senator of Arizona
Lindsey Graham, Republican senator of South Carolina
Lisa Murkowski, Republican senator of Alaska
Jeff Sessions, his own attorney general
Opinion polls
The Bias-Free Language Guide
The list really could go on and on.

In fact, this is a crucial part to Trump’s public persona. That he’s so willing to stand up to anyone he sees as a threat is one of the things that made some people like Trump in the first place.

Take, for instance, his position on terrorism. Trump consistently bashed Obama and Clinton for failing to call out, from his view, “radical Islamic terrorism” — never mind that there are important national security considerations for not using that phrase. To a lot of Trump supporters, this dog whistle about Muslims spoke to who the real enemy is, and they loved that he was willing to call it out even if it wasn’t “politically correct.”

So when there’s an attack that may have been caused by a Muslim perpetrator, Trump quickly jumps on Twitter to declare it as terrorism — even before the authorities have confirmed anything — and will use it to push his policies, such as his travel ban.

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t’s not just Trump’s comments on Saturday that were tepid. On the campaign trail, Trump was just as vague when it came to condemning some of the white nationalists and other extremists who had come to endorse him.

When he appeared on CNN’s State of the Union in February last year, host Jake Tapper gave him what should be a pretty easy task: condemn the KKK. Trump dodged.

Here’s the exchange, which is really worth reading in full to see just how evasive Trump is when asked to, out of all things, condemn a KKK grand wizard:

TAPPER: I want to ask you about the Anti-Defamation League, which this week called on you to publicly condemn unequivocally the racism of former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke, who recently said that voting against you at this point would be treason to your heritage. Will you unequivocally condemn David Duke and say that you don’t want his vote or that of other white supremacists in this election?

TRUMP: Well, just so you understand, I don’t know anything about David Duke, okay? I don’t know anything about what you’re even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. So I don’t know. I mean, I don’t know. Did he endorse me? Or what’s going on? Because, you know, I know nothing about David Duke. I know nothing about white supremacists. So you’re asking me a question that I’m supposed to be talking about people that I know nothing about.

TAPPER: I guess the question from the Anti-Defamation League is even if you don’t know about their endorsement, there are these groups and individuals endorsing you. Would you just say unequivocally you condemn them and you don’t want their support?

TRUMP: Well, I have to look at the group. I mean, I don't know what group you’re talking about. You wouldn’t want me to condemn a group that I know nothing about. I’d have to look. If you would send me a list of the groups, I will do research on them and certainly I would disavow if I thought there was something wrong. You may have groups in there that are totally fine — and it would be very unfair. So give me a list of the groups and I’ll let you know.

TAPPER: Okay. I’m just talking about David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan here, but—

TRUMP: Honestly, I don't know David Duke. I don't believe I've ever met him. I’m pretty sure I didn't meet him. And I just don’t know anything about him.


For the record, Trump had, in the past, known plenty about David Duke. When Trump declined to run for president in 2000 as a member of the Reform Party, he said that he didn’t want to be associated with Duke, who had supported Pat Buchanan’s nomination for the Reform Party. Trump at the time called Duke “a bigot, a racist, a problem.” This only seemed to change once he began running for president in 2015.

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During the campaign trail, we saw similar messaging from white supremacists. As Sarah Posner and David Neiwert reported at Mother Jones, what the media largely treated as gaffes — Trump retweeting white nationalists, Trump describing Mexican immigrants as “rapists” and criminals — were to white supremacists real signals approving of their racist causes. One white supremacist wrote, “Our Glorious Leader and ULTIMATE SAVIOR has gone full-wink-wink-wink to his most aggressive supporters.”

Some of them even argued that Trump has softened the greater public to their racist messaging. “The success of the Trump campaign just proves that our views resonate with millions,” said Rachel Pendergraft, a national organizer for the Knights Party, which succeeded David Duke’s Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. “They may not be ready for the Ku Klux Klan yet, but as anti-white hatred escalates, they will.”

That emboldening is what we saw in Charlottesville over the weekend. When asked to explain the Charlottesville protests, David Duke argued, “We are determined to take our country back,” he said at the protests, describing them as a “turning point.” “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.” (Although he did criticize some of Trump’s remarks about Charlottesville later on.)

More than anything, this is the clearest evidence of Trump’s pandering: White supremacists themselves interpret his statements favorably. They feel emboldened. And as long as Trump keeps refusing to clearly and unequivocally condemn their racist cause, that will continue.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 14, 2017, 12:47:12 PM
‘Look at the campaign he ran’: Charlottesville mayor is becoming one of Trump’s strongest critics (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2017/08/13/look-at-the-campaign-he-ran-charlottesville-mayor-is-becoming-one-of-trumps-strongest-critics/?utm_term=.bdd82646ccd5)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on August 14, 2017, 08:24:34 PM
Here is a statement.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHJTAbgVoAAxTYh.jpg)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 14, 2017, 11:57:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiZ2Lc-s3yk

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 15, 2017, 04:51:50 AM
When Hate Is Your Life's Work (https://www.gq.com/story/when-hate-is-your-lifes-work)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 16, 2017, 03:14:40 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHOwXp1V0AAEstk.jpg)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 16, 2017, 04:06:48 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHUPOi9UMAAxjLo.jpg:large)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 16, 2017, 04:34:55 AM
Trump puts a fine point on it: He sides with the alt-right in Charlottesville (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/08/15/trump-puts-a-fine-point-on-it-he-sides-with-the-alt-right-in-charlottesville/?utm_term=.2f2ebb03fa2c)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 16, 2017, 04:42:20 AM
What did you expect from Trump? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/08/15/what-did-you-expect-from-trump/?utm_term=.68b5badb1856)

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Plainly, the New York education system, Fordham University and Wharton School of Business have failed Trump, promoting him without ensuring that he possessed basic reasoning skills and a grasp of American history. But in these institutions’ defense, he is unteachable, we have learned.

Republicans such as Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (Wis.) re-upped their condemnation, but mere words fall on deaf ears. Unless and until Republicans are willing to censure the president, withhold endorsement for a second term and vigorously pursue avenues for impeachment, they are wasting their breath and our time.

How bad was his press conference? Well, when you lose Fox News you might as well throw in the towel. (Fox News’s Kat Timpf declared, “It’s honestly crazy for me to have to comment on this right now because I’m still in the phase where I’m wondering if it was actually real life what I just watched. It was one of the biggest messes that I’ve ever seen. I can’t believe it happened. . . . It shouldn’t be some kind of bold statement to say, ‘Yes, a gathering full of white supremacist Nazis doesn’t have good people in it. Those are all bad people, period.’”

We  should be clear on several points. First, it is morally reprehensible to serve in this White House, supporting a president so utterly unfit to lead a great country. Second, John F. Kelly has utterly failed as chief of staff; the past two weeks have been the worst of Trump’s presidency, many would agree. He can at this point only serve his country by resigning and warning the country that Trump is a cancer on the presidency, to borrow a phrase. Third, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner have no excuses and get no free passes. They are as responsible as anyone by continuing to enable the president. Finally, Trump apologists have run out of excuses and credibility. He was at the time plainly the more objectionable of the two main party candidates; in refusing to recognize that they did the country great harm. They can make amends by denouncing him and withdrawing all support. In short, Trump’s embrace and verbal defense of neo-Nazis and white nationalists should be disqualifying from public service. All true patriots must do their utmost to get him out of the Oval Office as fast as possible.



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 16, 2017, 09:29:45 AM
Good post Athos.

When the President Is Un-American
Paul Krugman

Remember back in 2008, when Sarah Palin used to talk about the “real America”? She meant rural and small-town residents — white residents, it went without saying — who supposedly embodied the nation’s true essence.

She was harshly condemned for those remarks, and rightly so — and not just because the real, real America is a multiracial, multicultural land of great metropolitan areas as well as small towns. More fundamentally, what makes America America is that it is built around an idea: the idea that all men are created equal, and are entitled to basic human rights. Take away that idea and we’re just a giant version of a two-bit autocracy.

And maybe that is what we have, in fact, become. For Donald Trump’s refusal to condemn the murderous white supremacists in Charlottesville finally confirms what has become increasingly obvious: The current president of the United States isn’t a real American.

Real Americans understand that our nation is built around values, not the “blood and soil” of the marchers’ chants; what makes you an American is your attempt to live up to those values, not the place or race your ancestors came from. And when we fall short in our effort to live up to our ideals, as we all too often do, at least we realize and acknowledge our failure.

But the man who began his political ascent by falsely questioning Barack Obama’s place of birth — a blood-and-soil argument if ever there was one — clearly cares nothing about the openness and inclusiveness that have always been essential parts of who we are as a nation.

Real Americans understand that our nation was born in a rebellion against tyranny. They feel an instinctive aversion to tyrants everywhere, and an underlying sympathy for democratic regimes, even those with whom we may currently have disputes.

But the present occupant of the White House has made no secret of preferring the company, not of democratic leaders, but of authoritarian rulers — not just Vladimir Putin, but people like Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan or Rodrigo Duterte, the homicidal leader of the Philippines. When Trump visited Saudi Arabia, his commerce secretary exulted in the absence of hostile demonstrations, an absence ensured by the repressiveness of the regime.

Real Americans expect public officials to be humbled by the responsibility that comes with the job. They’re not supposed to be boastful blowhards, constantly claiming credit for things they haven’t done — like Trump bragging about job creation that has continued at more or less the same pace as under his predecessor — or which never even happened, like his mythical victory in the popular vote.

Real Americans understand that being a powerful public figure means facing criticism. That comes with the job, and you’re supposed to tolerate that criticism even if you feel it’s unfair. Foreign autocrats may rage against unflattering news reports, threaten to inflict financial harm on publications they dislike, talk about imprisoning journalists; American leaders aren’t supposed to sound like that.

Finally, real Americans who manage to achieve high office realize that they are servants of the people, meant to use their position for the public good. In practice, human nature being what it is, many officials have in fact taken financial advantage of their office. But we’ve always understood that this was wrong — and presidents, in particular, are supposed to be above such things. Now we have a leader who is transparently exploiting his office for personal enrichment, in ways that all too obviously amount in practice to influence-buying by domestic malefactors and foreign governments alike.

In short, these days we have a president who is really, truly, deeply un-American, someone who doesn’t share the values and ideals that made this country special.

In fact, he’s so deeply alienated from the American idea that he can’t even bring himself to fake it. We all know that Trump feels comfortable with white supremacists, but it’s amazing that he won’t even give them a light tap on the wrist. We all know that Putin is Trump’s kind of guy, but it’s remarkable that Trump won’t even pretend to be outraged at Putin’s meddling with our election.

Speaking of which: I have no more idea than anyone else what Robert Mueller’s probe into potential collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, questionable financial ties, possible obstruction of justice and more will find. Trump is acting very much like someone with something big to hide, but we don’t yet know exactly what that something is.

Whatever role foreign influence may have played and may still be playing, however, we don’t need to wonder whether an anti-American cabal, hostile to everything we stand for, determined to undermine everything that truly makes this country great, has seized power in Washington. It has: it’s called the Trump administration.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 16, 2017, 06:04:16 PM
A reminder of what real conservatives stand for, as opposed to right-wing extremists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbMvHa3bWDQ

Trump has also been invited to speak to the NAACP, but refused the offer.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on August 16, 2017, 11:51:25 PM
The NAACP is not a audience worth addressing, having proved so with their hostile and buffoonish behavior when addressed by conservatives in recent years.

Only a fool, or a Democrat of course, would expect to not be 'dissed' and 'harassed' by an NAACP group in a grown up speech setting.

Sad, but true.

A reminder of what real conservatives stand for, as opposed to right-wing extremists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbMvHa3bWDQ

Trump has also been invited to speak to the NAACP, but refused the offer.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 16, 2017, 11:53:54 PM
 :roll:

Prove it.  Show me where the NAACP has been disrespectful to an invited speaker.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 17, 2017, 12:50:09 AM
Holy crap!

Bigotry and sexism certainly go hand in hand.  I had heard that the Daily Stormer was taken down by Go Daddy because of an article written by its founder trashing Heather Hoyer, but what he wrote echos the Handmaid's Tale:

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Andrew Anglin, the editor of the Daily Stormer, wasted no time in defaming Heyer, writing an editorial shortly after her death in which he excoriated her appearance and called her “drain on society.” Anglin also noted Heyer’s marital and parental status, calling her a “fat, childless, 32-year-old slut,” claiming that her failure to marry and have children meant that she had “no value.”
.....

“Had she not died yesterday, hundreds of thousands of dollars would have been spent on propping-up this gross creature who had failed to do her most basic duty – her only real duty, in fact – and reproduce,” Anglin wrote. “Having no children at that age, it can be assumed that she had multiple abortions.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/heather-heyer-was-the-alt-rights-worst-nightmare_us_59946c02e4b04b193362484b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 17, 2017, 02:02:32 AM
‘They tried to kill my child to shut her up,’ Heather Heyer’s mother mourns at service for woman killed during Nazi protest in Charlottesville (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/heather-heyers-grieving-mother-readies-herself-for-huge-public-farewell-to-my-child/2017/08/15/c5270e5e-81fa-11e7-ab27-1a21a8e006ab_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_heyerfuneral-720am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.6df8b54b6ab4)

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“They tried to kill my child to shut her up, but guess what, you just magnified her,” said Heyer’s mother, Susan Bro, sparking an ovation from a packed theater in downtown Charlottesville that lasted nearly a minute and a half.

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“I have aged 10 years in the last week,” Bro said as she struggled up the stairs to the stage. But once from the podium, she delivered a fierce call to those who knew her daughter — and those around the world coming to know her now — to make her death worthwhile by fighting “as Heather would do.”

“I’d rather have my child, but by golly if I got to give her up, we’re going to make it count,” she said.

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She implored those who wished to honor Heyer to pay attention to social events in the way that her daughter had taught her and others to do.

Citing a Facebook post of Heyer’s, Bro said: “If you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 17, 2017, 02:13:26 AM
In Charlottesville, the Local Jewish Community Presses On (http://reformjudaism.org/blog/2017/08/14/charlottesville-local-jewish-community-presses)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 17, 2017, 02:16:48 AM
Springfield police officer mocks protesters run down by car in Charlottesville on Facebook post (http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/08/springfield_police_officer_mocks_charlottesville_victims.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 17, 2017, 02:40:30 AM
Remember Heather Heyer (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/remember-heather-heyer/2017/08/16/84548fd4-82bb-11e7-902a-2a9f2d808496_story.html?utm_term=.372a2984cbe6)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 17, 2017, 02:51:56 AM
What if Western media covered Charlottesville the same way it covers other nations (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/08/16/what-if-western-media-covered-americas-white-tribalism-the-same-way-it-covers-other-nations/?utm_term=.bcc16d2afd47)

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If we talked about what happened in Charlottesville the same way we talk about events in a foreign country, here’s how Western media would cover it. Those quoted in the “story” below are fictional.

The international community is yet again sounding the alarm on ethnic violence in the United States under the new regime of President Trump. The latest flash point occurred this past weekend when the former Confederate stronghold of Charlottesville descended into chaos following rallies of white supremacist groups protesting the removal of statues celebrating leaders of the defeated Confederate states. The chaos turned deadly when Heather Heyer, a member of the white ethnic majority who attended the rally as a counterprotester, was killed when a man with neo-Nazi sympathies allegedly drove his car into a crowd.

Trump, a former reality television host, beauty pageant organizer and businessman, rose to political prominence by publicly questioning the citizenship of the United States’ first black president, Barack Obama. Since his election, Trump has targeted Muslims, refugees, Mexicans and the media. He has also advocated for police brutality. These tactics have appealed to and emboldened white ethno-nationalist groups and domestic terrorist organizations.

After Charlottesville, Trump has largely refused to unequivocally condemn the actions of the white supremacist groups. In a shocking news conference Tuesday, Trump, fuming after consuming hours of cable television, doubled down on blaming “both sides” for the weekend’s violence. His remarks garnered praise from a former leader of a white terrorist group known as the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke. “Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville,” Duke said on Twitter.

Beyond Trump’s coddling of white extremist groups, the emboldening of white supremacists and neo-Nazis raises questions about the state of the United States’ democracy 152 years after its brutal civil war over the rights of the white ethnic majority in its southern region to enslave members of the black ethnic minority. After the Charlottesville turmoil, more protests are expected around the country against the removal of Confederate monuments.

“Culturally, Americans are a curious lot,” said Andrew Darcy Morthington, an United Kingdom-based commentator who once embarked on a two-year mission trip to teach rural American children and therefore qualifies as an expert on U.S. affairs. “Donald Trump’s campaign message was that he would make America great again, and that there would be so much ‘winning.’ If America cares about being great, why has it fought so hard to keep monuments to the Confederate losers and enslavers?”

“The worst thing Britain ever did was letting go of our colony and thinking Americans were capable of governing themselves without eventually resorting back to tribal politics,” said Martin Rhodes, a shopkeeper in London. “I can’t believe a once-great empire would threaten everything it has built over generations just because a group of people give in to racism and xenoph…” Rhodes’s voice trailed off as he stared wistfully at a silent Big Ben.

Experts are also linking the weekend violence to the scourge of domestic terrorism carried out by white males, who have carried out almost twice as many mass attacks on American soil than Muslims have in recent years.

“This is the time for moderates across the white male world to come out and denounce violent racial terrorism, white supremacy and regressive tribal politics,” said James Charlotin, a Canadian national security expert. “Why haven’t they spoken out?”

European leaders have offered to convene the first-ever Countering Violent White Male Extremism (CVWME) summit somewhere in Europe, but critics have pointed out that Europe was the original exporter of many of the same colonial and white supremacist ideologies that have fueled misery all over the globe.

The Trump regime, which has failed to deliver on much of its legislation promises, is governing in a country awash in guns, where the maternal mortality rate, alcoholism and opioid drug use are on the rise.

“This is just a recipe for entrenched disaffection from the state and further isolation and radicalization of American white males,” Charlotin said.

“The Americans on both sides of the political spectrum like to talk about identity politics, or white identity,” said Mustapha Okango, a Kenyan anthropologist based in Nairobi. “The Americans like to lecture us and other Africans about keeping tribalism out of our politics and putting country ahead of our ethnic groups. America’s institutions are strong. But when I saw the images of those white men in polos carrying Party City tiki torches and weapons, it’s pretty clear American white tribal politics are alive and well, explicitly fueled by President Trump’s regime. White supremacy doesn’t just hurt blacks or other minority groups, it hurts the whole country. Take it from us Kenyans, it’s a dangerous recipe. We had hoped better for America.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 17, 2017, 02:56:40 AM
Unlike His Predecessors, Trump Steps Back From a Moral Judgment (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/us/politics/trump-charlottesville-moral-neo-nazis.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 17, 2017, 05:40:12 AM
Trump and race: Decades of fueling divisions (https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/trump-and-race-decades-of-fueling-divisions/2017/08/16/5fb3cd7c-8296-11e7-b359-15a3617c767b_story.html)

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Last summer, when Donald Trump’s comments about Mexicans and Muslims led to widespread accusations that he harbored racist attitudes, the candidate pushed back. “I am the least racist person that you’ve ever encountered,” he said.

As evidence, Trump cited an endorsement he’d received from a weekly newspaper published in Ohio by Don King, the legendary African-American boxing promoter.

“Now, Don King knows racism probably better than anybody,” Trump said in an interview with The Washington Post. “He’s not endorsing a racist, okay?”

But how would Trump persuade those who believed he was a racist that wasn’t the case? “I’m not concerned,” he replied. “Actually, I’m not concerned because I don’t think people believe it.”

From his first public controversy in the 1970s, when the federal government sued Trump and his father over discriminatory rental practices in their New York real estate empire, to the opening salvo in his 2016 presidential campaign, when he said that Mexicans entering the United States were criminals and “rapists,” Trump has regularly fanned the flames of racial controversies.

After Trump’s defiant statement Tuesday that “both sides” bore responsibility for the street battles in Charlottesville last weekend, an unusually bipartisan collection of politicians and others have called on the president to back off from remarks portraying an overtly white-supremacist rally as something benign and reasonable.

What do such comments reveal about his personal attitude toward the nation’s wrenching history of racial discord? Are Trump’s racially divisive remarks just another example of his impulsivity and propensity to be provocative, or do they represent an abiding tolerance of racist views?

He’s like this on nearly every issue, said Armstrong Williams, a conservative, African-American TV and radio talk show host and longtime supporter of Trump. If ousted FBI director James Comey or former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus “had been black, people would have called what he did to them racist,” Williams said. “You cannot isolate this to race. It’s just who he is. He’s undisciplined and he causes unnecessary pain with what he says, and he’s done it all his life. The president treats everybody the same, unfortunately.”

Williams said Trump should have left his Monday statement condemning white supremacists as his last word, “but he just can’t stop himself, so he goes off without understanding the history of neo-Nazism and white supremacy. And those of us who had so much hope for him are just exhausted, because this is every day. People see it as a betrayal. Soon, he won’t have anybody, because when you start talking about Nazis and supremacy, who’s going to defend him on that?”

But others say Trump’s eagerness to speak up for at least some of the people who took part in the alt-right demonstrations in Charlottesville must be viewed as a reflection of his attitude on race.

“It could be both that he’s like this about all kinds of issues and that he’s particularly comfortable trafficking in racist language,” said Michael Fauntroy, a Howard University political scientist who has written on Republicans and the black vote. “I think he has something going on in his personality that leads him to say irrational things. But the most benign explanation of his behavior is that he’s very comfortable being around racists.”

Some Republicans have spoken out against Trump’s decision to equate left-wing protesters with the armed, avowed neo-Nazis who carried torches through the University of Virginia campus last weekend. But even those who strongly criticized the president stopped short of questioning his beliefs on race.

“There’s a whole lot of political calculus behind these comments,” Fauntroy said. “What are they going to say: ‘The leader of our party traffics in racism or is comfortable with racism, but we have to get things done, so we’re just going to ignore that?’”

Republican leaders have occasionally pushed back against Trump’s racial slurs. Last year, when Trump said that a federal judge of Mexican descent had ruled against him because he is “Mexican,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said the comment constituted “the textbook definition of a racist comment.” But Ryan did not back away from his endorsement of Trump’s candidacy.

Trump “is no racist,” said King, the boxing promoter, in an interview. “He’s a realist and a knight in God-sent shining armor. He promised to create a whole new system and that system includes the degradations of white supremacy, so when he takes down that old system, that doctrine goes with it. I still love Donald Trump.”

Trump’s four decades in the public eye began with a discrimination lawsuit against young Donald and his father, New York City developer Fred Trump.

For decades, the Trump real estate empire had been well known in Brooklyn and Queens as developments mainly for whites. In 1952, one of Trump’s tenants, the legendary folk singer Woody Guthrie, pushed back against the all-white nature of his 1,800-unit apartment complex by writing a song, “Old Man Trump,” that begins, “I suppose that Old Man Trump knows just how much racial hate he stirred up in that bloodpot of human hearts when he drawed that color line here at his Beach Haven family project.”

“Beach Haven is Trump’s Tower / Where no black folks come to roam,” the song continues.

As Fred Trump brought his son into leadership of the family business, the two faced an investigation by the city Human Rights Commission in which testers tried to rent Trump apartments. The white applicant was offered housing right away, but the black applicant was told nothing was available.

The city shut down rentals at that Trump complex, and the Justice Department picked up the case, filing suit in 1973 against father and son, accusing them of “refusing to rent and negotiate rentals with blacks.” Trump employees stated that they had been instructed to mark rental applications from blacks with the letter C for “colored.”

Donald Trump, then 27, took the lead in defending the family. Under the tutelage of Roy Cohn, the New York attorney who had formerly worked for Sen. Joseph McCarthy in the communist hunts of the 1950s, Trump pushed back hard, countersuing the government and accusing the prosecutor, who was Jewish, of conducting a “Gestapo-like interrogation.” The judge summarily rejected Trump’s claims.

After years of court battles, Trump sought a settlement, agreeing to buy ads in local newspapers assuring the public that his company would not discriminate.

Despite the rough press he endured during that dispute, Trump did not hesitate to wade into racial controversies throughout his career.

In 1993, when he testified before a congressional committee looking into Indian gambling, Trump questioned whether tribe members who operated a casino competing with his Atlantic City operations were really native Americans. “They don’t look like Indians to me,” he said.

But a few years later, during a period when he was a registered Democrat who often expressed liberal views, Trump attacked Reform Party presidential candidate Pat Buchanan for how he talked about “Jews, blacks, gays and Mexicans.... He wants to divide our country.”

And in 1995, Trump opened his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida with a pointed welcome to Jews, blacks and gay couples, all of whom had long faced restrictions at other Palm Beach social clubs.

But those who’ve worked with Trump for many years say he also has a history of making rough, stereotyping comments about racial minorities. John O’Donnell, who was president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, said Trump blamed blacks for his financial problems.

“I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza — black guys counting my money!” Trump said, according to O’Donnell. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.... Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is; I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

Trump has denied making that remark, but has also said that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

In 1989, after a 28-year-old white investment banker on a jog through Central Park was raped, beaten and left for dead, five teenaged boys, including four blacks and one Hispanic, were arrested.

Two weeks later, Trump bought full-page ads in the city’s four newspapers: “Bring back the death penalty,” he demanded, dismissing Mayor Ed Koch’s call for less hate in a frightened city. “I want to hate these muggers and murderers,” Trump wrote. “They should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, they should be executed.”

When Rev. Al Sharpton, the black activist, denounced Trump for a “hatemongering ad,” Trump denied that race had anything to do with his call for retribution.

Soon after, Trump went on TV to talk about blacks in America: “A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market,” he said. “I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.”

In 2014, the Central Park Five had their convictions overturned when a career criminal confessed and provided a DNA match that proved he was the rapist. The city paid the five men $41 million to settle their wrongful imprisonment suit, but Trump called the payment “the heist of the century” and “a disgrace,” said he wouldn’t give them a dime, and insisted he had nothing to apologize for.

A few months after the Central Park rape, Trump was asked about rumors that he planned to run for governor of New York. “Can you imagine me running for office?” he replied. “Wouldn’t you say I’m a little controversial for that?”


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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 18, 2017, 12:23:30 AM
Trump recycles discredited Islamic pigs’ blood tale after terrorist attack in Barcelona (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/17/trump-recycles-discredited-islamic-pigs-blood-tale-after-terrorist-attack-in-barcelona/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.e458e963fd4a)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on August 18, 2017, 01:47:26 PM
Arnold Schwarzenegger Schools Trump On How To Respond To Nazis (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/arnold-schwarzenegger-trump-nazis_us_5996524ce4b0a2608a6b68ac)
Arnold instructs Trump on what he should have said.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 19, 2017, 12:09:55 AM
Members of White House presidential arts commission resigning to protest Trump’s comments (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/08/18/members-of-white-house-presidential-arts-commission-resign-to-protest-trumps-comments/?utm_term=.ee69270ec398)

Quote
Several readers have noticed that the first letters of each paragraph spell out the word, “RESIST” — a common refrain among Trump’s critics.

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.washingtonexaminer.biz/web-producers/081817%20kal%20penn%20RESIST.png)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 19, 2017, 12:17:29 AM
This week shows Trump was always about race (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/08/18/this-week-shows-trump-was-always-about-race/?utm_term=.432aaf468610)

Quote
No, at the heart of Trump’s campaign and the center of the Fox News operation, which incubated a Trump-ready electorate, has always been an appeal to white grievance, which Trump and Bannon were all too happy to gin up with fables about immigrants stealing whites’ jobs, African American killing fields in big cities, murderous illegal immigrants and, quite blatantly, an appeal to Southern infatuation with the Confederate myth of the “lost cause.” Trump’s vilifying all Muslims with a broad brush and his description of Mexicans as murderers were not incidental to his campaign; they were its distinguishing features.

Quote
Jennifer Rubin writes the Right Turn blog for The Post, offering reported opinion from a conservative perspective.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 19, 2017, 03:40:33 AM
How Trump Ruined My Relationship With My White Mother (http://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/how-trump-ruined-my-relationship-with-my-white-mother-1797935049)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on August 19, 2017, 09:50:54 AM
How Trump Ruined My Relationship With My White Mother (http://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/how-trump-ruined-my-relationship-with-my-white-mother-1797935049)

#Resist

My relationship with my idiot evangelical holy roller mother has not been helped.  The shit that comes out of her mouth reminds me frequently of the sorry state of affairs in the hinterlands, and she votes.  Ugh.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 19, 2017, 08:41:26 PM
My sister probably supported Trump.  Her husband is an ex-con with a swastika tattoo on his arm and both of them are born again idiots.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 20, 2017, 06:23:45 PM
Organizer of Neo-Nazi Rally Tweets That Death of Heather Heyer Was 'Payback Time' [Updated] (http://gizmodo.com/organizer-of-neo-nazi-rally-tweets-that-death-of-heathe-1798041214)

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--4_lF1bxb--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/mnacrux1afu4pn6egsyr.jpg)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: IdleBoast on August 20, 2017, 06:38:21 PM
Organizer of Neo-Nazi Rally Tweets That Death of Heather Heyer Was 'Payback Time' [Updated] (http://gizmodo.com/organizer-of-neo-nazi-rally-tweets-that-death-of-heathe-1798041214)

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--4_lF1bxb--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/mnacrux1afu4pn6egsyr.jpg)

#Resist


"Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!"





Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 20, 2017, 06:58:16 PM
Yeah, he deleted the tweet after claiming he was "hacked."

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: IdleBoast on August 20, 2017, 07:19:35 PM
Yeah, he deleted the tweet after claiming he was "hacked."

#Resist

No, his whole account is gone, not even a "suspended" message.




Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 22, 2017, 12:21:37 AM
Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton: Now is not the time for Trump to visit my city
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/phoenix-mayor-greg-stanton-why-i-dont-want-trump-to-come-to-my-city/2017/08/21/e4bb5d46-8679-11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html?utm_term=.426ae47ec550#comments)

Quote
Nearly 50 years ago, moments after learning that an avowed racist had gunned down Martin Luther King Jr., a young presidential candidate took the stage in Indianapolis to break the news to a largely African American crowd.

“What we need in the United States is not division,” Sen. Robert F. Kennedy implored. “What we need in the United States is not hatred. What we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love and wisdom and compassion toward one another.”

It was exactly what the grief-stricken crowd needed to hear. There were riots in many cities that night, but not in Indianapolis.

President Trump’s response to Charlottesville reminds us that the words and actions of our political leaders in the wake of tragic events matter.

America is hurting. And it is hurting largely because Trump has doused racial tensions with gasoline. With his planned visit to Phoenix on Tuesday, I fear the president may be looking to light a match.

That’s why I asked the president to delay his visit. It’s time to let cooler heads prevail and begin the healing process.

I’m not optimistic the White House will heed that call.

Just days after Trump confirmed that he was “seriously considering” issuing a pardon for former Maricopa County sheriff Joe Arpaio — who was convicted in July of criminal contempt of court for defying a federal judge’s orders to stop racial profiling — the president’s campaign announced that it will hold a rally at the Phoenix Convention Center. The timing doesn’t seem coincidental.

Let’s be clear: A pardon of Arpaio can be viewed only as a presidential endorsement of the lawlessness and discrimination that terrorized Phoenix’s Latino community. Choosing to announce it in Phoenix — especially in the wake of Charlottesville — would add insult to very serious injury and would reveal that the president’s true intent is to further divide our nation.

For years, Arpaio illegally targeted Latinos in our community because of the color of their skin. Mothers and fathers lived in fear as they dropped off their kids at school. Kids lived in fear of their parents being arrested and taken away.

A federal court ruled Arpaio’s tactics violated the law. After he defied a judge’s orders, he was convicted of criminal contempt. In convicting him, U.S. District Judge Susan R. Bolton noted that Arpaio “announced to the world and to his subordinates that he was going to continue business as usual no matter who said otherwise.”

Even before his trial and conviction, voters grew tired of Arpaio’s brand of racism and blatant violation of the law. Last year, in an overwhelmingly Republican county, Arpaio lost by nearly 10 points. Although local Republicans helped defeat Arpaio, the white nationalists, neo-Nazis and other racists who shamed our country this month in Charlottesville would surely cheer a presidential pardon.

Our community is moving on and moving forward from Arpaio’s divisive legacy. A pardon won’t change the fact that Arpaio was convicted of a crime, nor will it shake our resolve to keep building a city that is welcoming, is inclusive and provides opportunities for anyone willing to work for them.

In Phoenix, we are working overtime to ensure that everyone will be safe on Tuesday — from the president to those attending his rally and those exercising their First Amendment right to protest. And, like Robert Kennedy, we will remind everyone that we need not division andhatred, but wisdom and compassion.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on August 22, 2017, 01:31:10 AM
My alma mater, the University of Texas, quietly took down all the Confederate statues on its main mall last night.  Long overdue, but another step in the right direction.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 22, 2017, 04:24:15 PM
Most Confederate statues were erected in support of Jim Crowe laws in the 1920's.  Another wave of them went up during the Civil Rights movement.  They were made very cheaply and can hardly be considered works of art.

The reason these statues need to be removed is because they were erected in support of continued racism. 



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 23, 2017, 12:32:30 AM
3 in 10 strong Trump supporters accept or are indifferent to white supremacist views (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/08/22/3-in-10-strong-trump-supporters-accept-or-are-indifferent-to-white-supremacist-views/?utm_term=.024c7817e4a7)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on August 23, 2017, 04:00:30 PM
Erected with the support of elected Democrats, statues of Democrats. Take them all down, beginning in Statuary Hall at the United States Capitol, and do not fill the void at all.

Most Confederate statues were erected in support of Jim Crowe laws in the 1920's.  Another wave of them went up during the Civil Rights movement.  They were made very cheaply and can hardly be considered works of art.

The reason these statues need to be removed is because they were erected in support of continued racism. 




Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 23, 2017, 04:47:08 PM
Here you go Joan:

https://www.facebook.com/MicMedia/videos/1620753744614076/?hc_ref=ARTJhqcxo_s73lL0rWIYfwLdNB-utP1eMr5vnLo8KCn7tDBLhQuliDRVlB1USq9mK6k&pnref=story


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on August 23, 2017, 06:43:55 PM
Thank you, Lois... again, elected Democrats praising confederate Democrats.
Republicans had and have nothing to do with it. Tear them all down and don't spend a dime of taxpayer money to replace any statuary, period.


Here you go Joan:

https://www.facebook.com/MicMedia/videos/1620753744614076/?hc_ref=ARTJhqcxo_s73lL0rWIYfwLdNB-utP1eMr5vnLo8KCn7tDBLhQuliDRVlB1USq9mK6k&pnref=story


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on August 23, 2017, 07:00:40 PM
Joan, stop trolling Lois. Don't make me take my belt off, girl.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 23, 2017, 07:36:48 PM
Democrats of old are today's Republicans.  There was a huge realignment in the late 1960's and early 1970's. That is when the GOP courted the racists and let them corrupt their party. I know I've told this to Joan before, but her poor brain just can't comprehend.  And now she's defending a corrupt and unhinged president.  I feel so sorry for her.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on August 23, 2017, 09:13:12 PM
Today's Republican Party is NOT the party of Lincoln.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on August 24, 2017, 12:23:28 AM
Today's Republican Party is NOT the party of Lincoln.

As explained by that fake news site Wikipedia.

The Southern Strategy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 24, 2017, 01:14:13 AM
Sadly, Joan is too brain damaged to understand.  Poor, poor, Joanie.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on August 24, 2017, 01:45:52 AM
Democrats have found it so difficult to erase their past. Racists have always had a Democrat bent, with the KKK being a predecessor for today's Antifa, and  like Black Lives Matter, like the Black Panthers, the militant arm of Democrats.

All those statues you want destroyed now, to help 'erase' your history, are of no matter.  Nixon was not seeking racists, but seeking American voters, and Republicans were no haven for racist Dems from Southern States, who were so busy trying to vote down the Civil Right Act, including AlGore's dad, and lots of other racially challenged Democrats.

You all know your history, and trying to duck it, or smear others with your bile is not a pretty look for any of you.

White Nationals are not something Republicans endorse or seek out. You know that, but a compliant media writes your headlines, and  you have comfort in the effort to slime your opponents, and lacking any plan other than Russia, Russia, Russia (10 days out of the headlines as of today), you are going back to the tried and true: Racist Racist Racist claims, and bottom feeding media will follow the Democrat playbook out the window for you, until you change it again, or actually find some useful approach.

We shall see in 2018, whether America still has some work to do, draining the swamp, and becoming responsive to it's Citizens and taxpayers, and when it is found that American is not yet Great Again, then you will suffer at the polls again, unless something drastic happens and Democrats get a grip.

Today's Republican Party is NOT the party of Lincoln.

As explained by that fake news site Wikipedia.

The Southern Strategy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 24, 2017, 02:29:44 AM
I guess this makes Barack Obama a Republican President.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 24, 2017, 03:27:44 AM
White Supremacists Celebrate President Trump's Rally in Phoenix (http://gizmodo.com/white-supremacists-celebrate-president-trumps-rally-in-1798336898)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 24, 2017, 03:36:25 AM
U.N. Panel Condemns Trump’s Response to Charlottesville Violence (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/23/world/un-trump-racism-charlottesville.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 24, 2017, 03:39:48 AM
Rabbis Protest Trump’s Comments by Boycotting Conference Call (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/23/us/rabbis-president-trump-antisemitism.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 24, 2017, 04:20:46 AM
Trump’s most recent shout to white supremacists: I’m with you (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-most-recent-shout-to-white-supremacists-im-with-you/2017/08/23/91fabdde-8838-11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html?utm_term=.3f2ea71fe0c0)

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 24, 2017, 04:21:39 AM
Here's the Daily Show Segment on Ferguson You've Been Waiting For (http://gawker.com/heres-the-daily-show-segment-on-ferguson-youve-been-wai-1627392644)

Quote
"Race is there, and it is a constant. You're tired of hearing about it? Imagine how fucking exhausting it is living it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_98ojjIZDI

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on August 24, 2017, 04:35:47 AM
Democrats have found it so difficult to erase their past. Racists have always had a Democrat bent, with the KKK being a predecessor for today's Antifa, and  like Black Lives Matter, like the Black Panthers, the militant arm of Democrats.

All those statues you want destroyed now, to help 'erase' your history, are of no matter.  Nixon was not seeking racists, but seeking American voters, and Republicans were no haven for racist Dems from Southern States, who were so busy trying to vote down the Civil Right Act, including AlGore's dad, and lots of other racially challenged Democrats.

You all know your history, and trying to duck it, or smear others with your bile is not a pretty look for any of you.

White Nationals are not something Republicans endorse or seek out. You know that, but a compliant media writes your headlines, and  you have comfort in the effort to slime your opponents, and lacking any plan other than Russia, Russia, Russia (10 days out of the headlines as of today), you are going back to the tried and true: Racist Racist Racist claims, and bottom feeding media will follow the Democrat playbook out the window for you, until you change it again, or actually find some useful approach.

We shall see in 2018, whether America still has some work to do, draining the swamp, and becoming responsive to it's Citizens and taxpayers, and when it is found that American is not yet Great Again, then you will suffer at the polls again, unless something drastic happens and Democrats get a grip.

Today's Republican Party is NOT the party of Lincoln.

As explained by that fake news site Wikipedia.

The Southern Strategy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy)
Really? Then why is Trump supporting and apologizing for them? Why does the KKK, Neo-Nazis think he's supporting their views?

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and flies like a duck, it's a duck.

You will also note that unlike any other president, Trump has not enacted ANY of his major legislative agenda. And he has not drained the swamp, he only stocked it with more of his moneyed friends, the same ones who made the swamp.

As for the Russia scandal, if it does turn out that his campaign colluded with the Russians, then at the very least he will need to resign in disgrace. That is if he has plausible deniability. But he is so very proud of being in control, that deniability is going to be very hard to come by. So he is facing the possibility of not only impeachment, but of charges of Treason.

Hey look! He could claim being the first and greatest traitor in the office of POTUS. 


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on August 24, 2017, 04:09:11 PM
Democrats have found it so difficult to erase their past. Racists have always had a Democrat bent, with the KKK being a predecessor for today's Antifa, and  like Black Lives Matter, like the Black Panthers, the militant arm of Democrats.

All those statues you want destroyed now, to help 'erase' your history, are of no matter.  Nixon was not seeking racists, but seeking American voters, and Republicans were no haven for racist Dems from Southern States, who were so busy trying to vote down the Civil Right Act, including AlGore's dad, and lots of other racially challenged Democrats.

You all know your history, and trying to duck it, or smear others with your bile is not a pretty look for any of you.

White Nationals are not something Republicans endorse or seek out. You know that, but a compliant media writes your headlines, and  you have comfort in the effort to slime your opponents, and lacking any plan other than Russia, Russia, Russia (10 days out of the headlines as of today), you are going back to the tried and true: Racist Racist Racist claims, and bottom feeding media will follow the Democrat playbook out the window for you, until you change it again, or actually find some useful approach.

We shall see in 2018, whether America still has some work to do, draining the swamp, and becoming responsive to it's Citizens and taxpayers, and when it is found that American is not yet Great Again, then you will suffer at the polls again, unless something drastic happens and Democrats get a grip.

Today's Republican Party is NOT the party of Lincoln.

As explained by that fake news site Wikipedia.

The Southern Strategy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy)

This is delusional and incoherent nonsense. I hope for your sake, Joan, that this is simply your attempt at trolling folks here. If you actually believe this crap then you have honest to god serious mental health issues.

No joke.

Who cares that the party morphed over the course of a century and a half? The titles of Democrat and Republican, especially in their archaic usage. are insignificant to the discussion. What you fail to acknowledge is that if this were 1860, Lois -- and people like her and me with similar values -- would vote Republican, and YOU, and the other conservatives of today, would vote Democrat. It isn't about labels; it's about principals and values. You're playing games with labels while you distort the real meaning of what we're discussing.

The argument isn't about whether you should call yourself a Republican or a Democrat (and you well know this). It's about disagreements over principals, like whether you support human rights over property rights, or visa versa.

What's more, to pretend that the modern day Republican party has not openly and intentionally made a home for racists in order to garner their votes is a flat out lie, and a simple refusal to face reality.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 24, 2017, 04:35:50 PM
Either stupid or a Russian Troll.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on August 25, 2017, 09:26:07 PM

Most Confederate statues were erected in support of Jim Crowe laws in the 1920's.  Another wave of them went up during the Civil Rights movement.  They were made very cheaply and can hardly be considered works of art.

The reason these statues need to be removed is because they were erected in support of continued racism.  


Of all the tens of thousands of things written about the incidents in Charlottesville, this, in my opinion, is the most important point of all.

Lois is correct: The statues were not erected as memorials, nor were they erected as history. They were erected as a deliberate and planned campaign to keep Blacks "in their place."

Almost all of them were erected during two time periods:

First, in the late 1910s and early 1920s, coinciding with a renewed effort among Southerners to reverse any rights Blacks might have gained, including the enactment of Jim Crow Laws, a renewed lynching campaign, and the re-birth of the Ku Klux Klan. In fact, the most egregious of these false monuments is Stone Mountain, which features 75-foot high carvings of Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, and Stonewall Jackson. The figures were carved in the precise place where the second version of the Ku Klux Klan was founded in 1915.

A second wave of statues went up in the late 1950s and early 1960s, perfectly coinciding with the growth of the Civil Rights movement, and serving as planned resistance to Federal Laws and Supreme Court Decisions defending the rights of Blacks. And, of course, with the arising of the third iteration of the Ku Klux Klan.

These facts demolish most of the arguments offered by those who support the continued existence of statues and monuments to Confederate leaders standing on public property. It's not expunging or changing history, since the statues are not history. It's not changing history, since the statues absence will not change the way the Civil War, including its causes and its consequences, is taught and remembered. And it's certainly not censorship.

I don't have a problem with a person erecting a statue -- or flying the Confederate flag -- on his private property, and I would condemn any effort, legislation, or Court decision attempting to abridge that right. But the statues on public property should be removed. If they truly are "history," then place them in a museum where they can be viewed and understood in context. Otherwise, remove them, now.

And start with the removal of the Stone Mountain carvings. The plain and most basic fact is this: The U.S. Civil War was fought, by the Confederates' own assertions, to protect the right to keep slavery legal and extend it elsewhere in the country. Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee were the civilian and military leaders of an armed insurrection against the government that resulted in the deaths of over 700,000 of their fellow citizens, fought -- again -- to protect the institution of slavery. We should remember that as history, but we should obliterate any instance were this is celebrated. Starting with Stone Mountain.








Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 25, 2017, 10:17:47 PM
I find it telling that those that protest the removal of these monuments based on "history" seem to know very little about it, and even claim ignorance of the Southern Strategy and the realignment of the political parties.

Good to have you back MissB.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 25, 2017, 10:53:41 PM

Most Confederate statues were erected in support of Jim Crowe laws in the 1920's.  Another wave of them went up during the Civil Rights movement.  They were made very cheaply and can hardly be considered works of art.

The reason these statues need to be removed is because they were erected in support of continued racism. 


Of all the tens of thousands of things written about the incidents in Charlottesville, this, in my opinion, is the most important point of all.

Lois is correct: The statues were not erected as memorials, nor were they erected as history. They were erected as a deliberate and planned campaign to keep Blacks "in their place."

Almost all of them were erected during two time periods:

First, in the late 1910s and early 1920s, coinciding with a renewed effort among Southerners to keep reverse any rights Blacks might have gained, including the enactment of Jim Crow Laws, a renewed lynching campaign, and the re-birth of the Ku Klux Klan. In fact, the most egregious of these false monuments is Stone Mountain, which features 75-foot high carvings of Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, and Stonewall Jackson. The figures were carved in the precise place where the second version of the Ku Klux Klan was founded in 1915.

A second wave of statues went up in the late 1950s and early 1960s, perfectly coinciding with the growth of the Civil Rights movement, and serving as planned resistance to Federal Laws and Supreme Court Decisions defending the rights of Blacks. And, of course, with the arising of the third iteration of the Ku Klux Klan.

These facts demolish most of the arguments offered by those who support the continued existence of statues and monuments to Confederate leaders standing on public property. It's not expunging or changing history, since the statues are not history. It's not changing history, since the statues absence will not change the way the Civil War, including its causes and its consequences, is taught and remembered. And it's certainly not censorship.

I don't have a problem with a person erecting a statue -- or flying the Confederate flag -- on his private property, and I would condemn any effort, legislation, or Court decision attempting to abridge that right. But the statues on public property should be removed. If they truly are "history," then place them in a museum where they can be viewed and understood in context. Otherwise, remove them, now.

And start with the removal of the Stone Mountain carvings. The plain and most basic fact is this: The U.S. Civil War was fought, by the Confederates' own assertions, to protect the right to keep slavery legal and extend it elsewhere in the country. Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee were the civilian and military leaders of an armed insurrection against the government that resulted in the deaths of over 700,000 of their fellow citizens, fought -- again -- to protect the institution of slavery. We should remember that as history, but we should obliterate any instance were this is celebrated. Starting with Stone Mountain.








(http://www.troll.me/images/pissed-off-obama/hey-you-post-more-please.jpg)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on August 25, 2017, 11:07:59 PM

I find it telling that those that protest the removal of these monuments based on "history" seem to know very little about it, and even claim ignorance of the Southern Strategy and the realignment of the political parties.


Exactly.

Yet, I almost never use the words "racist" or "racism" when describing incidents like this (and many others). Those words refer to things in those people's minds and hearts (or alleged to be in their minds and hearts), and, as such, they're woefully insufficient, and they don't accurately describe what is going on.

To refer to the participants in Charlottesville incident as "racists," or even "facists" -- or to refer to the President who seems to support them with the same words -- misses the point. It's not thoughts and sentiments, it's actions. They murdered a young woman, and injured dozens of others.



Good to have you back MissB.


Thanks! I had a wonderful extended vacation, and I've returned refreshed and renewed and ready to jump back into everything, including work, and KB!






Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 26, 2017, 01:39:55 AM
Today is a very sad day for the LBGTQ community.  Trump has signed the ban on transgendered persons in the military.  So much for Ivanka being able to control his bigotry.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on August 26, 2017, 01:46:47 AM
Trump is willing to destroy the country to get his way. Why would this mob be against trans-gender persons be surprising?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 26, 2017, 05:18:58 AM
Trump pardons controversial former Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/25/trump-pardons-controversial-former-arizona-sheriff-joe-arpaio/?utm_term=.e9de7d42ffa5)

Your Friday news dump from Orange Racist.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 26, 2017, 09:52:27 AM
Man Says the Confederate Flag Isn't 'A Symbol of Racism,' Then Immediately Uses Racist Slur (http://splinternews.com/man-says-the-confederate-flag-isnt-a-symbol-of-racism-1798396659?utm_campaign=socialflow_splinter_twitter&utm_source=splinter_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 26, 2017, 09:55:03 AM
Our View: Donald Trump just resurrected Joe Arpaio from irrelevance (http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/editorial/2017/08/25/donald-trump-resurrects-joe-arpaio-irrelevance/604067001/)

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By pardoning Arpaio, Trump made it clear that institutional racism is not just OK with him. It is a goal.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 27, 2017, 01:19:35 AM
As White Nationalist in Charlottesville Fired, Police ‘Never Moved’ (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/us/charlottesville-protest-police.html)

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CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — As demonstrators clashed near a downtown park here two weeks ago, a white nationalist protester in a bulletproof vest turned, pointed a pistol toward the crowd and fired a single shot at the ground, in the direction of a black man wielding an improvised torch.

To make his escape, a video recording shows, the armed protester strolled past a line of about a dozen state police troopers who were safely positioned about 10 feet away behind two metal barricades. None of them budged.

“We all heard it and ran — I know damn well they heard it,” said Rosia Parker, a community activist in Charlottesville. “They never moved.”

Police had a suspect in the shooting in custody on Saturday morning, according to an official familiar with the investigation, who requested anonymity to provide information not yet public. But residents are still demanding to know why officers did not act in real time as heavily armed people fought and a car sped toward a crowd, killing a woman. So stark was the police failure to intervene, many participants in the protest and counterprotests believe it was by design.

Now, as white-power organizations declare their intentions to rally in cities around the country, police departments are looking to Charlottesville for hints on how to keep the peace — and what mistakes to avoid. Charlottesville, too, is seeking answers. The city announced on Friday that it had hired a former United States attorney to evaluate the planning and response to three white supremacist events in the city this year. The final rally, a show of power by white supremacist groups, was ostensibly held to protest the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee, the Confederate general.

Officials have insisted that no “stand down” order was issued, and a state police spokeswoman said troopers did not hear the shot. But many people suspect the inaction was deliberate, because just a month earlier, the police were heavily criticized for responding harshly at a Ku Klux Klan rally where anti-Klan protesters were sprayed with tear gas and arrested.

On the day of the “Unite the Right” rally, Aug. 12, only eight arrests were made, even with 125 local officers, hundreds of National Guard troops, the state police and neighboring police agencies present. Those arrested included James A. Fields, the driver who has been charged with murder in the death of Heather D. Heyer.

Investigators are also close to making arrests in the case of DeAndre Harris, 20, a local teacher’s aide and African-American who was beaten with a metal pipe and slabs of wood in a parking garage just a few yards from Police Headquarters, the city manager, Maurice Jones, said.

The police chief and mayor declined requests to be interviewed.

Mr. Jones said the police had developed two “tactical mobile force contingency plans” that were to be used as “quick responders” to skirmishes and fights that were popping up throughout downtown. The officers were instructed to “respond to fights directly” and to make arrests in teams and squads, he said.

“We saw plenty of video of officers stepping in to de-escalate situations,” Mr. Jones said.

He stressed that the city had tried to prevent the rally, but that a federal judge had ordered the city to grant the permit. But even a member of the City Council asked the city manager and the police chief why there was an “apparent unwillingness of officers to directly intervene during overt assaults.”

The city did not use a number of security measures recommended by the state police, said Brian Moran, Virginia’s secretary of public safety and homeland security, including a ban on weapons and sticks of all kinds. The state also proposed designating parking areas, busing protesters and cutting off traffic for at least 10 blocks. None of that happened, he said. Mr. Jones said city laws had prevented officials from enacting some of the restrictions that the state suggested.

Mr. Moran said there may have been a 15-minute gap when skirmishes took place and troopers did not respond, because it took some time for them to suit up in riot gear.

Even so, he declined to criticize the response.

“If you stop the clock at 1:30, there were 13 minor injuries, no property damage and no one killed by a firearm,” Mr. Moran said, citing the time just before Ms. Heyer’s death.

But organizers, participants and counterprotesters said they had felt abandoned.

A 25-year-old woman named Kendall, who asked that her last name not be used because she did not want to be targeted, said she had been chanting at the white-power protesters when one of them punched her, bloodying her nose.

“I moved quickly to the police and said: ‘A man attacked me! Please help me! I need your help. He’s right there!’” she said. “They didn’t move a muscle. Only a few of them had the courage to make eye contact with me.”

Ézé Amos, a photographer from Nigeria who lives in Charlottesville, had a similar experience, he said, when he moved in for a close-up of a man wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with Adolf Hitler’s face. The man punched the camera, hitting Mr. Amos’s face, he said.

“This happened right in front of the cops,” Mr. Amos said. “I said, ‘Hey, this man just assaulted me!’ The officer said, ‘Well I didn’t see it.’ I told him, ‘Everybody just saw it!’”

The officer took down Mr. Amos’s name.

“I am a black man photographing this. I kept telling myself, ‘If it gets out of hand, the cops will jump in and save me,’” he said. “I saw a white woman get hit, and they did not do anything. That’s when I actually got really scared of the whole thing.”

It was clear the police were acting with specific instructions, he said.

“Somebody is not telling us what happened,” Mr. Amos said. “Those cops did not just decide to fold their arms and watch this happen.”

The organizers of the rally said the police had unilaterally changed details that they spent weeks negotiating, such as how they would safely enter and exit the park.

“They didn’t follow through on any part of their plan,” said one of the coordinators, who goes by the name Eli Mosley. “They threw the whole thing away without telling us.” The changes involved every aspect of logistics, he said, including where counterprotesters would be, which streets would be blocked and how V.I.P.s would enter.

Mr. Mosely, an event coordinator for Identity Evropa, a white separatist group, said he believed that the city strategy was an attempt to stifle the rise of what has been called the “alt-right.”

“Looking back, we think it was nefarious,” he said. “The local government is very left wing, and they didn’t want anyone protesting the statue coming down.

“I believe this was somewhat of a trap in some ways,” he added. “We went there peacefully and were attacked, because we were forced to get past that gauntlet of counterprotesters.”

City officials have repeatedly said it was the protesters who did not honor the advance arrangements, which made it difficult to keep the two sides apart.

Richard B. Spencer, one of the headliners who was scheduled to speak at the event, went so far as to blame the city for Ms. Heyer’s death.

“The City of Charlottesville could have prevented that death if they had done their job, and that is to police the streets,” he said.

The city will not release a copy of the action plan devised to manage the demonstration because it contains “tactical and operational plans that could be used again,” said Miriam Dickler, the city spokeswoman.

The city has hired Timothy J. Heaphy, the former United States attorney for the Western District of Virginia, to conduct an independent review of three white supremacist events, including the “Unite the Right” rally and the Klan rally. Officials urged residents to come forward with firsthand accounts of crimes that went ignored.

At least one account — the video of the man firing the gunshot with troopers nearby — was shot by someone at the rally and submitted to law enforcement agencies, including the F.B.I.

Corinne Geller, a spokeswoman for the state police, said in an email that the troopers had not heard the shot because it had been “muffled by the loud volume of the crowd yelling and chanting, drums and music.” Another video shows that the gunshot was clearly audible even from inside the park, where dozens more state police troopers were posted.

“Had any one of our troopers witnessed that incident,” Ms. Geller said, “they would have immediately acted just as they did for the other four arrests made during the weekend.”

S. Lee Merritt, an attorney for Mr. Harris, the man who was beaten in the parking garage, said he was surprised to hear the city manager say arrests would be made soon. “I define soon as two weeks ago,” Mr. Merritt said.

On Wednesday, Chris Cantwell, a white supremacist who was featured in a Vice documentary about the “Unite the Right” rally, turned himself in for three felony charges resulting from a pepper-spray attack. Witnesses said it had taken place in front of police officers.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 28, 2017, 05:12:59 AM
New Colbert police chief linked to neo-Nazi websites claims identity theft (http://www.kxii.com/content/news/New-Colbert-police-chiefs-name-linked-to-neo-Nazi-websites-441804593.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 28, 2017, 05:19:46 AM
Man arrested for firing gun at Charlottesville rally (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/man-arrested-gun-charlottesville-rally/index.html?adkey=bn)

As White Nationalist in Charlottesville Fired, Police ‘Never Moved’ (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/us/charlottesville-protest-police.html)

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CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — As demonstrators clashed near a downtown park here two weeks ago, a white nationalist protester in a bulletproof vest turned, pointed a pistol toward the crowd and fired a single shot at the ground, in the direction of a black man wielding an improvised torch.

To make his escape, a video recording shows, the armed protester strolled past a line of about a dozen state police troopers who were safely positioned about 10 feet away behind two metal barricades. None of them budged.

“We all heard it and ran — I know damn well they heard it,” said Rosia Parker, a community activist in Charlottesville. “They never moved.”

Police had a suspect in the shooting in custody on Saturday morning, according to an official familiar with the investigation, who requested anonymity to provide information not yet public. But residents are still demanding to know why officers did not act in real time as heavily armed people fought and a car sped toward a crowd, killing a woman. So stark was the police failure to intervene, many participants in the protest and counterprotests believe it was by design.

Now, as white-power organizations declare their intentions to rally in cities around the country, police departments are looking to Charlottesville for hints on how to keep the peace — and what mistakes to avoid. Charlottesville, too, is seeking answers. The city announced on Friday that it had hired a former United States attorney to evaluate the planning and response to three white supremacist events in the city this year. The final rally, a show of power by white supremacist groups, was ostensibly held to protest the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee, the Confederate general.

Officials have insisted that no “stand down” order was issued, and a state police spokeswoman said troopers did not hear the shot. But many people suspect the inaction was deliberate, because just a month earlier, the police were heavily criticized for responding harshly at a Ku Klux Klan rally where anti-Klan protesters were sprayed with tear gas and arrested.

On the day of the “Unite the Right” rally, Aug. 12, only eight arrests were made, even with 125 local officers, hundreds of National Guard troops, the state police and neighboring police agencies present. Those arrested included James A. Fields, the driver who has been charged with murder in the death of Heather D. Heyer.

Investigators are also close to making arrests in the case of DeAndre Harris, 20, a local teacher’s aide and African-American who was beaten with a metal pipe and slabs of wood in a parking garage just a few yards from Police Headquarters, the city manager, Maurice Jones, said.

The police chief and mayor declined requests to be interviewed.

Mr. Jones said the police had developed two “tactical mobile force contingency plans” that were to be used as “quick responders” to skirmishes and fights that were popping up throughout downtown. The officers were instructed to “respond to fights directly” and to make arrests in teams and squads, he said.

“We saw plenty of video of officers stepping in to de-escalate situations,” Mr. Jones said.

He stressed that the city had tried to prevent the rally, but that a federal judge had ordered the city to grant the permit. But even a member of the City Council asked the city manager and the police chief why there was an “apparent unwillingness of officers to directly intervene during overt assaults.”

The city did not use a number of security measures recommended by the state police, said Brian Moran, Virginia’s secretary of public safety and homeland security, including a ban on weapons and sticks of all kinds. The state also proposed designating parking areas, busing protesters and cutting off traffic for at least 10 blocks. None of that happened, he said. Mr. Jones said city laws had prevented officials from enacting some of the restrictions that the state suggested.

Mr. Moran said there may have been a 15-minute gap when skirmishes took place and troopers did not respond, because it took some time for them to suit up in riot gear.

Even so, he declined to criticize the response.

“If you stop the clock at 1:30, there were 13 minor injuries, no property damage and no one killed by a firearm,” Mr. Moran said, citing the time just before Ms. Heyer’s death.

But organizers, participants and counterprotesters said they had felt abandoned.

A 25-year-old woman named Kendall, who asked that her last name not be used because she did not want to be targeted, said she had been chanting at the white-power protesters when one of them punched her, bloodying her nose.

“I moved quickly to the police and said: ‘A man attacked me! Please help me! I need your help. He’s right there!’” she said. “They didn’t move a muscle. Only a few of them had the courage to make eye contact with me.”

Ézé Amos, a photographer from Nigeria who lives in Charlottesville, had a similar experience, he said, when he moved in for a close-up of a man wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with Adolf Hitler’s face. The man punched the camera, hitting Mr. Amos’s face, he said.

“This happened right in front of the cops,” Mr. Amos said. “I said, ‘Hey, this man just assaulted me!’ The officer said, ‘Well I didn’t see it.’ I told him, ‘Everybody just saw it!’”

The officer took down Mr. Amos’s name.

“I am a black man photographing this. I kept telling myself, ‘If it gets out of hand, the cops will jump in and save me,’” he said. “I saw a white woman get hit, and they did not do anything. That’s when I actually got really scared of the whole thing.”

It was clear the police were acting with specific instructions, he said.

“Somebody is not telling us what happened,” Mr. Amos said. “Those cops did not just decide to fold their arms and watch this happen.”

The organizers of the rally said the police had unilaterally changed details that they spent weeks negotiating, such as how they would safely enter and exit the park.

“They didn’t follow through on any part of their plan,” said one of the coordinators, who goes by the name Eli Mosley. “They threw the whole thing away without telling us.” The changes involved every aspect of logistics, he said, including where counterprotesters would be, which streets would be blocked and how V.I.P.s would enter.

Mr. Mosely, an event coordinator for Identity Evropa, a white separatist group, said he believed that the city strategy was an attempt to stifle the rise of what has been called the “alt-right.”

“Looking back, we think it was nefarious,” he said. “The local government is very left wing, and they didn’t want anyone protesting the statue coming down.

“I believe this was somewhat of a trap in some ways,” he added. “We went there peacefully and were attacked, because we were forced to get past that gauntlet of counterprotesters.”

City officials have repeatedly said it was the protesters who did not honor the advance arrangements, which made it difficult to keep the two sides apart.

Richard B. Spencer, one of the headliners who was scheduled to speak at the event, went so far as to blame the city for Ms. Heyer’s death.

“The City of Charlottesville could have prevented that death if they had done their job, and that is to police the streets,” he said.

The city will not release a copy of the action plan devised to manage the demonstration because it contains “tactical and operational plans that could be used again,” said Miriam Dickler, the city spokeswoman.

The city has hired Timothy J. Heaphy, the former United States attorney for the Western District of Virginia, to conduct an independent review of three white supremacist events, including the “Unite the Right” rally and the Klan rally. Officials urged residents to come forward with firsthand accounts of crimes that went ignored.

At least one account — the video of the man firing the gunshot with troopers nearby — was shot by someone at the rally and submitted to law enforcement agencies, including the F.B.I.

Corinne Geller, a spokeswoman for the state police, said in an email that the troopers had not heard the shot because it had been “muffled by the loud volume of the crowd yelling and chanting, drums and music.” Another video shows that the gunshot was clearly audible even from inside the park, where dozens more state police troopers were posted.

“Had any one of our troopers witnessed that incident,” Ms. Geller said, “they would have immediately acted just as they did for the other four arrests made during the weekend.”

S. Lee Merritt, an attorney for Mr. Harris, the man who was beaten in the parking garage, said he was surprised to hear the city manager say arrests would be made soon. “I define soon as two weeks ago,” Mr. Merritt said.

On Wednesday, Chris Cantwell, a white supremacist who was featured in a Vice documentary about the “Unite the Right” rally, turned himself in for three felony charges resulting from a pepper-spray attack. Witnesses said it had taken place in front of police officers.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 29, 2017, 11:29:37 PM
Worries about American racism just hit a record high under Trump (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/08/29/views-of-american-racism-just-hit-a-record-high-under-trump/)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 30, 2017, 02:50:15 AM
His story of being stabbed for a neo-Nazi haircut went viral. Police say it was a lie. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/08/28/his-story-of-being-stabbed-for-a-neo-nazi-haircut-went-viral-police-say-it-was-a-lie/?utm_term=.0af53bd8a6d3)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 30, 2017, 11:38:53 PM
Statement on people impersonating ICE officials in Houston (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/statement-people-impersonating-ice-officials-houston)

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There are disturbing reports that people impersonating Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) special agents are knocking on doors in the Houston area telling residents to evacuate -- presumably so these imposters can rob the empty homes. Real HSI officials wear badges that are labeled "special agent," which members of the public can ask to see and verify. ICE officers with Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) also wear badges labeled with ERO Officer. They also carry credentials with their name and organization.

Members of the public who receive such visitors should ask to see these properly labeled badges, and their credentials.

In addition, these officers and special agents would be conducting hurricane relief operations with other local law enforcement agencies.

Also note that during Hurricane Harvey relief efforts, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is not conducting immigration enforcement operations in the affected area.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 30, 2017, 11:40:38 PM
Georgia lawmaker: Talk of ditching Confederate statues could cause Democrat to ‘go missing’ (http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/08/29/georgia-republican-warns-democrat-she-could-go-missing-over-criticism-of-civil-war-monuments/)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on August 30, 2017, 11:56:04 PM
Trump's racist base, by the numbers. (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/trump_s_bigoted_base_by_the_numbers.html)

(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/170828_POL_trumpCharts.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 31, 2017, 12:49:11 PM
Cobb cop during traffic stop: ‘Remember, we only shoot black people’ (http://www.ajc.com/news/local/cobb-cop-during-traffic-stop-remember-only-shoot-black-people/I3RAuy3GVMmoM4WsXBGN7H/)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 01, 2017, 03:11:32 AM
‘I lost. The ni**er won’: Alabama GOP mayor gets racist on Facebook after losing to black candidate (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/i-lost-the-nier-won-republican-alabama-mayor-loses-election-and-gets-racist-on-facebook/#.WahiXw_ODjl.twitter)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 03, 2017, 04:28:10 PM
Charlotte mayoral candidate reminds voters – she’s white (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article170742532.html)

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A Charlotte mayoral candidate wants people to know that she’s Republican, smart – and white.

“VOTE FOR ME!” Kimberley Paige Barnette posted on Facebook. “REPUBLICAN & SMART, WHITE, TRADITIONAL.”

Barnette, who turned 53 on Friday, is a former Mecklenburg County magistrate making her first run for office.

She could not be immediately reached.

The post drew angry responses on Facebook.

“You are NOT doing conservatives or Republicans any favors,” one man wrote.

In a WTVI debate last month, Barnette criticized last September’s Charlotte protesters. She called the protests “an expression of Democratic behavior.”

Asked how the city could help its lower-income residents, Barnette said, “I don’t think we should encourage more lower-income people to (come to) Charlotte.”

“We should attract higher-income people.”

Barnette is a distant long-shot in a GOP primary featuring city council member Kenny Smith and businessman Gary Dunn.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 06, 2017, 11:33:09 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJDHs0YVoAAr9E9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on September 06, 2017, 11:50:51 PM
source, link please. ty

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJDHs0YVoAAr9E9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 07, 2017, 12:00:48 AM
Michael Bennett: Cops drew guns on me for 'being a black man in the wrong place at the wrong time' (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20604486/michael-bennett-seattle-seahawks-accuses-las-vegas-police-excessive-force-considering-civil-lawsuit)

https://twitter.com/mosesbread72/status/905430701595652096

https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/905443109311524864

https://twitter.com/JordanHeckFF/status/905535120416919552

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on September 07, 2017, 12:16:19 AM

source, link please. ty



http://theweek.com/speedreads/722995/seattle-seahawks-star-michael-bennett-describes-police-brutality-disturbing-open-letter
 (http://theweek.com/speedreads/722995/seattle-seahawks-star-michael-bennett-describes-police-brutality-disturbing-open-letter)

Among many other sources. Google is your friend, Joan...








Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 07, 2017, 01:21:20 AM
Michael Bennett: Las Vegas Police Threatened To "Blow My Fucking Head Off" (http://deadspin.com/michael-bennett-las-vegas-police-threatened-to-blow-m-1800679578)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 07, 2017, 01:23:24 AM
Michael Bennett: Las Vegas police threatened to ‘blow my f*cking head off’ (https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/6/16260620/michael-bennett-las-vegas-police-violence)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 07, 2017, 01:24:20 AM
Michael Bennett: Police singled me out, put a gun near my head (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/06/sport/michael-bennett-las-vegas-police/index.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 07, 2017, 01:25:09 AM
Some Tough Questions About the Michael Bennett Situation (https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/06/michael-bennett-las-vegas-video-police-seattle-seahawks)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on September 07, 2017, 03:09:43 AM
Hey Joan, the source is Michael Bennett, not some anonymous rumor.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 07, 2017, 03:24:48 AM
Photo of 5 males in KKK hoods leads to discipline against students in Creston, Iowa
(http://www.omaha.com/news/crime/photo-of-males-in-kkk-hoods-leads-to-discipline-against/article_d9d3a730-9326-11e7-983e-7bbdf2098f89.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 07, 2017, 03:34:29 AM
Las Vegas Cops Can't Explain Why An Officer Handcuffed And Detained Michael Bennett (http://deadspin.com/las-vegas-cops-cant-explain-why-an-officer-handcuffed-a-1801154344)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on September 07, 2017, 04:53:51 AM
Not a football fan?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 14, 2017, 03:15:45 AM
Racist rants, threats preceded Labor Day killing of black man, police say (http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article172918671.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 14, 2017, 03:16:25 AM
‘Report this illegal.’ Student seeks help after classmate targets her for deportation. (http://www.kentucky.com/news/local/counties/fayette-county/article172825531.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 16, 2017, 09:25:26 PM
Ohio fireman suspended for saying he would rescue a dog from a burning building before saving a ‘n*gger’ (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/ohio-fireman-suspended-for-saying-he-would-rescue-a-dog-from-a-burning-building-before-saving-a-ngger/#.WbwMPcSg8QE.twitter)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on September 17, 2017, 02:29:38 AM
US Air Force chaplain says Christians who tolerate other religions 'serve Satan' (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/captain-sonny-hernandez-us-air-force-chaplain-christians-tolerate-other-religions-muslims-buddhists-a7949996.html)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 21, 2017, 12:01:23 AM
ICE agents mistakenly try to grab Latino county worker near courthouse (http://www.oregonlive.com/hillsboro/index.ssf/2017/09/ice_mistakenly_tries_to_grab_l.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 24, 2017, 03:07:13 AM
LeBron James Says Donald Trump Is Using Sports "To Try To Divide Us Even More" (http://deadspin.com/lebron-james-says-donald-trump-is-using-sports-to-try-1818694308)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 24, 2017, 03:10:48 AM
Teresa Kaepernick On Trump Calling Injustice Protesters Sons Of Bitches: “It’s What Most Of Us Have Come To Expect From Him” (http://deadspin.com/teresa-kaepernick-on-trump-calling-injustice-protesters-1818691117)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 25, 2017, 12:33:30 AM
NASCAR owners say they wouldn’t tolerate national anthem protests at races (http://thehill.com/homenews/news/352164-nascar-owners-say-they-wouldnt-tolerate-national-anthem-protests-at-races)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKhEaK9WsAE3Qhk.jpg:large)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 27, 2017, 01:57:52 AM
Fire chief directs racial slur at Steelers coach over anthem protest (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fire-chief-uses-racial-slur-steelers-coach-mike-tomlin-anthem-protest/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=42754963)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 28, 2017, 01:02:00 PM
How Fake News Turned a Small Town Upside Down (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/26/magazine/how-fake-news-turned-a-small-town-upside-down.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-2&action=click&contentCollection=Magazine&region=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 29, 2017, 02:36:43 AM
Wisconsin bar owner suggests killing NFL players who kneel (https://boingboing.net/2017/09/28/wisconsin-bar-owner-suggests-k.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 29, 2017, 11:37:07 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK5lVmrWAAEGeO8.jpg)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 29, 2017, 11:55:10 PM
Racial slurs written on doors of five black cadet candidates at Air Force Academy Preparatory School (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/09/28/racial-slurs-written-on-doors-of-five-black-cadet-candidates-at-air-force-academy-preparatory-school/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.c2f0cf828db7)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on September 30, 2017, 12:39:23 AM
NFL players who seek out interviews and media to 'make a statement' place themselves directly in the position of disrespecting citizens and Fans of the team who demand the NFL stick to its published and agreed policy, regarding how a team presents itself during the pre-came ceremony, including standing, in a dignified behavior and manner, during the playing of the U.S. National Anthem.

Disrespect is the only rational explanation for not following the NFL rules for every team, as regarding attendance and behavior during this ceremony, if they are to be considered as a compliant NFL franchise, and player(s).

When hinging some extraneous protest to such a revered and important item as the National Anthem of the United States, while in the United States, such behavior, and further public comment taunting the paying fan base, will draw a suitable and pointed response, is expected, and is to be avoided by the NFL and it's players.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK5lVmrWAAEGeO8.jpg)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 30, 2017, 12:44:34 AM
NFL players who seek out interviews and media to 'make a statement' place themselves directly in the position of disrespecting citizens and Fans of the team who demand the NFL stick to its published and agreed policy, regarding how a team presents itself during the pre-came ceremony, including standing, in a dignified behavior and manner, during the playing of the U.S. National Anthem.

Disrespect is the only rational explanation for not following the NFL rules for every team, as regarding attendance and behavior during this ceremony, if they are to be considered as a compliant NFL franchise, and player(s).

When hinging some extraneous protest to such a revered and important item as the National Anthem of the United States, while in the United States, such behavior, and further public comment taunting the paying fan base, will draw a suitable and pointed response, is expected, and is to be avoided by the NFL and it's players.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK5lVmrWAAEGeO8.jpg)

#Resist

I'm curious as to your opinion about the few teams who did not come out for the anthem.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on September 30, 2017, 12:49:24 AM

NFL players who seek out interviews and media to 'make a statement' place themselves directly in the position of disrespecting citizens and Fans of the team who demand the NFL stick to its published and agreed policy, regarding how a team presents itself during the pre-came ceremony, including standing, in a dignified behavior and manner, during the playing of the U.S. National Anthem.

Disrespect is the only rational explanation for not following the NFL rules for every team, as regarding attendance and behavior during this ceremony, if they are to be considered as a compliant NFL franchise, and player(s).

When hinging some extraneous protest to such a revered and important item as the National Anthem of the United States, while in the United States, such behavior, and further public comment taunting the paying fan base, will draw a suitable and pointed response, is expected, and is to be avoided by the NFL and it's players.


Here, and in other posts in this topic, Joan attacks Black people.

In another thread of hers I just read, she attacks Hispanic people.

If you're Asian, watch out, as Joan has you in her sights!






Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 30, 2017, 12:50:51 AM

NFL players who seek out interviews and media to 'make a statement' place themselves directly in the position of disrespecting citizens and Fans of the team who demand the NFL stick to its published and agreed policy, regarding how a team presents itself during the pre-came ceremony, including standing, in a dignified behavior and manner, during the playing of the U.S. National Anthem.

Disrespect is the only rational explanation for not following the NFL rules for every team, as regarding attendance and behavior during this ceremony, if they are to be considered as a compliant NFL franchise, and player(s).

When hinging some extraneous protest to such a revered and important item as the National Anthem of the United States, while in the United States, such behavior, and further public comment taunting the paying fan base, will draw a suitable and pointed response, is expected, and is to be avoided by the NFL and it's players.


Here, and in other posts in this topic, Joan attacks Black people.

In another thread of hers I just read, she attacks Hispanic people.

If you're Asian, watch out, as Joan has you in her sights!






I'm sure she's attacked Muslim people as well.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on September 30, 2017, 02:08:38 AM
  Of course I 'attack' no one, just point out that the people who are breaking the rules, disrespecting the paying audience and team fans, by disrespecting our Nation's customs and anthem are wrong. Whether they are one color or another color is not material to anything at all.

  These folks use the antics of a hasbeen player, who wore 'pig socks' as he suggested police are racist pigs, and directly spoke to his disrespect for the United States, it's flag and anthem, during the Obama Administration, btw, as they try to find something to bitch about, and try to tie this tired belligerant activity somehow to President Trump.

  The President, quoted as to exactly what he said, used a role play style story to relay what he may wish a responsible NFL owner to say, when confronted by players who break NFL rules and disrespect their sponsors, fans and audience, made clear his position. It is the majority opinion/position of the United States and is reflected in lack of attendance at NFL games following such rabid action.

  Again, that those taking offense happen to be of one or another ethnicity or melanin level in their skin makes no difference, the offense is disrespect, the issue is National, and the lack of ratings year over year over Democrat politicization of yet another "social justice issue", no matter how badly misplaced, delivers a similar result.

 


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 30, 2017, 02:11:28 AM

  These folks use the antics of a hasbeen player, who wore 'pig socks' as he suggested police are racist pigs, and directly spoke to his disrespect for the United States, it's flag and anthem, during the Obama Administration, btw, as they try to find something to bitch about, and try to tie this tired belligerant activity somehow to President Trump.

   

  Colin Kaepernick should be picked up as a backup QB, if not by the Baltimore Ravens, then by any one of a bunch of NFL teams, and I predict he will be, as the Season begins in September.

  Would not mind the Washington Redskins having him on the roster, as he has a good arm, is capable, and presumably healthy. His issue with being dropped as Starting QB was his inability to make the necessary "reads" in time to get the ball out, keep moving down the field, and not get sacked, broken plays.

 

Hmm...

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on September 30, 2017, 02:14:49 AM
Read your own post. Again, we all know Opinions are like Athos!

I see no conflict between my statement today, and my statement at the time Barbara noted the ex-QB from the left coast, some months ago.


  These folks use the antics of a hasbeen player, who wore 'pig socks' as he suggested police are racist pigs, and directly spoke to his disrespect for the United States, it's flag and anthem, during the Obama Administration, btw, as they try to find something to bitch about, and try to tie this tired belligerant activity somehow to President Trump.

   

  Colin Kaepernick should be picked up as a backup QB, if not by the Baltimore Ravens, then by any one of a bunch of NFL teams, and I predict he will be, as the Season begins in September.

  Would not mind the Washington Redskins having him on the roster, as he has a good arm, is capable, and presumably healthy. His issue with being dropped as Starting QB was his inability to make the necessary "reads" in time to get the ball out, keep moving down the field, and not get sacked, broken plays.

 

Hmm...

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 30, 2017, 02:17:21 AM
Read your own post. Again, we all know Opinions are like Athos!

I see no conflict between my statement today, and my statement at the time Barbara noted the ex-QB from the left coast, some months ago.


  These folks use the antics of a hasbeen player, who wore 'pig socks' as he suggested police are racist pigs, and directly spoke to his disrespect for the United States, it's flag and anthem, during the Obama Administration, btw, as they try to find something to bitch about, and try to tie this tired belligerant activity somehow to President Trump.

   

  Colin Kaepernick should be picked up as a backup QB, if not by the Baltimore Ravens, then by any one of a bunch of NFL teams, and I predict he will be, as the Season begins in September.

  Would not mind the Washington Redskins having him on the roster, as he has a good arm, is capable, and presumably healthy. His issue with being dropped as Starting QB was his inability to make the necessary "reads" in time to get the ball out, keep moving down the field, and not get sacked, broken plays.

 

Hmm...

#Resist

Some months?  It's hasn't been 60 days.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on September 30, 2017, 02:44:11 AM
umhmm... absent full context to include Barb's original posting, whatever.

I don't have the post sorting time to dedicate to such a response.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 30, 2017, 02:49:03 AM
umhmm... absent full context to include Barb's original posting, whatever.

I don't have the post sorting time to dedicate to such a response.

"I'm too lazy to defend my trolling."

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 30, 2017, 02:57:11 AM
joan1984, why did you respond to that post and not the question I posed to you?

I'm curious as to your opinion about the few teams who did not come out for the anthem.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 30, 2017, 04:31:51 AM
I’m a white country singer. I still took a knee after I sang the national anthem at an NFL game. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/29/im-a-white-country-singer-i-still-took-a-knee-after-i-sang-the-national-anthem-at-an-nfl-game/?utm_term=.4d8912e226a2)

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I was on my way to Nissan Stadium in Nashville on Sunday morning when I got a phone call informing me that my performance of the national anthem before the Tennessee Titans game would be televised nationally later that day. President Trump had already spent the day before attacking the NFL players who’ve been kneeling during the anthem to protest police brutality against African Americans, so of course news outlets and all of America would be watching.

I started to get nervous, because I knew what I had to do.

I am a recording artist living in Nashville. I come from a country music background, but I grew up in and around New Orleans, where all kinds of music and cultures mix. When I was 10, we moved to a tiny Louisiana town called Ponchatoula. I remember hearing the “n-word” for the first time at school. It shocked and saddened me. It still does. I saw racism all around me growing up: I remember getting a homecoming ballot in high school and seeing the names divided on the page. One section read “black,” the other “white.” I remember thinking it couldn’t be real. That was in 2004.

Racism is still a huge stain on the heart of this country, and it is still very much alive. I see it often when I am touring with members of my band, who are primarily black men. We recently played a venue where I was told that the promoter did not want to pay me because my “drummer was threatening.” This was at a country club in the Deep South. I was with my drummer, who is like a brother to me, the entire day, and I never saw any type of aggression from him. The only threat she saw was the color of his skin.

So on Sunday, even though I had been looking forward to singing the national anthem at this game for about six months, I knew I had to find a way to stand in solidarity with my brothers, sisters, fans and friends who live with the effects of such toxic hatred all the time and are experiencing an even higher level of anxiety and fear because of the polarizing rhetoric Trump spews out.

I walked out to the middle of the field, sang the song and then peacefully locked arms with my boyfriend and took a knee. I took a knee for those who are mistreated, beaten down and disregarded in this country. I took a knee because every movement needs allies, and I knew that someone who looks like me and comes from my background needed to do it. When you’re white, it’s easy to disregard racism and not see your own privilege. Instead, I wanted to use my privilege — and my platform — to shed a light on systemic racism and social injustice.

A lot of people are calling my peaceful protest “un-American,” but that could not be farther from the truth. I love this country and the men and women who serve and die to protect our freedoms. Part of that freedom is being able to speak out when things are not right. I chose to stand during the anthem because I didn’t want my message to get misconstrued. I was not protesting the military or police or flag. I was protesting in solidarity with those whom the flag also represents: my fellow humans of color.

My decision may hurt my career, but it was the only choice for me. This cause is more important than my record sales.

I walked off the field to mixed reactions. Some people got my attention and shouted “thank you.” A lot of them booed. The booing didn’t bother me so much. What bothers me more is the silence: the silence of millions of white people every day, when they watch a video of a black woman’s son who is murdered simply for reaching for his driver’s license. We have to do better. We have to speak, and we have to be allies.

In the past few days, I have received death threats and had cancer wished upon me by the same people who claim to be great patriots. I’ve had people say that they should have executed me on the field. People are threatening my life because the idea that someone who looks like me would act against racism upsets them so much.

I can’t think of anything more un-American than threatening someone for an act of free speech. I am not afraid of these people, because I know that I am living on my mother’s prayers and God will protect me. It just hurts my heart to stand in the face of real unadulterated hate. But it’s the same hate that so many other people in this country face simply because of the color of their skin.

The only way we can move forward as a nation is if we bring it all back to love. We have to live it and demonstrate it every day in our own lives — and we have to point out injustices every time we see them. I am praying for our country. I know that there has to be more love out there, and I pray that we find it and fast.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on September 30, 2017, 03:10:51 PM

  Of course I 'attack' no one, just point out that the people who are breaking the rules, disrespecting the paying audience and team fans, by disrespecting our Nation's customs and anthem are wrong. Whether they are one color or another color is not material to anything at all.

  These folks use the antics of a has been player, who wore 'pig socks' as he suggested police are racist pigs, and directly spoke to his disrespect for the United States, it's flag and anthem, during the Obama Administration, btw, as they try to find something to bitch about, and try to tie this tired belligerant activity somehow to President Trump.

  The President, quoted as to exactly what he said, used a role play style story to relay what he may wish a responsible NFL owner to say, when confronted by players who break NFL rules and disrespect their sponsors, fans and audience, made clear his position. It is the majority opinion/position of the United States and is reflected in lack of attendance at NFL games following such rabid action.

  Again, that those taking offense happen to be of one or another ethnicity or melanin level in their skin makes no difference, the offense is disrespect, the issue is National, and the lack of ratings year over year over Democrat politicization of yet another "social justice issue", no matter how badly misplaced, delivers a similar result.


I'll admit that, over and above watching an occasional Bears game, I'm not exactly knowledgeable about the NFL. But, fascinated by this controversy, I've read widely on this topic.

NFL ratings are indeed down over previous years. However there's no evidence, other than baseless assertions, that this controversy has anything to do with the decline in ratings. That decline is attributed chiefly to the fact that broadcast and basic cable ratings are down across the board. Thus, the decline in ratings for NFL games parallels the decline in ratings for all other sports, sitcoms, dramas, reality shows, etc. It has nothing to do with a reaction against NFL players protesting racism, and everything to do with people seeking alternative means for consuming video content.

I also suspect that the continuing revelations of the devastating physical effects of head trauma and CTE  are also affecting NFL TV viewership. But I haven't any evidence to support that, so it's just my surmise.

I'd love to know how NFL players "taking a knee" before the game are "disrespecting the paying audience and team fans," or how they "disrespect their [the NFL's] sponsors, fans and audience." Disrespecting the sponsors? I got a good laugh out of that one!

Meanwhile, your assertion that the protestors and their supporters "try to tie this tired belligerant activity somehow to President Trump" is the epitome of hypocrisy (or, perhaps, self-delusion). The protests couldn't have been milder or more unoffensive, and they were peaceful and, surprisingly, non-controversial. Yet your president decided to wade into the situation with an expletive-laced tirade (calling citizens exercising their First Amendment rights "sons of bitches" is very presidential!), thereby both ratcheting up the controversy and, and in a delightfully ironic way, giving credence to the protestors and their message.

Your contention that Trump "used a role play style story to relay what he may wish a responsible NFL owner to say" is, in a word, completely nuts. Please read what Trump actually said at the rally, and what he actually tweeted.

Your assertions the that you "are attacking no one," that "whether they are one color or another color is not material to anything at all, and that "those taking offense happen to be of one or another ethnicity or melanin level in their skin makes no difference" are blatantly hypocritical. Racism isn't always overt and obvious. The is exactly the type of racial code speak that Lois likes to point out.






Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on September 30, 2017, 07:42:44 PM
I got a laugh out of Joan's assertion that NFL players taking the knee were breaking the rules.  What rules?  Who wrote them?  Are these rules the same as laws?

 :emot_laughing:

I would also point out that taking the knee was taken from how US military veterans respect their fallen comrades.  If it was meant to be disrespectful, wouldn't mooning the flag be a better message?

Taking a knee is similar to flying the flag at half mast, and yet that is not considered disrespectful.  It's a sign of mourning or distress.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 30, 2017, 08:52:43 PM
I got a laugh out of Joan's assertion that NFL players taking the knee were breaking the rules.  What rules?  Who wrote them?  Are these rules the same as laws?

Does the NFL Require Players to Stand for the National Anthem? (http://time.com/4955704/nfl-league-rulebook-a62-63-national-anthem-rule/)

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Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:
The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


It's important to note the use of the word "may" here. The NFL is not considering punishing fines on players or teams who choose to kneel or stay in the locker room during the national anthem, the spokesperson says.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on September 30, 2017, 09:08:04 PM

I got a laugh out of Joan's assertion that NFL players taking the knee were breaking the rules.  What rules?  Who wrote them?  Are these rules the same as laws?


Does the NFL Require Players to Stand for the National Anthem? (http://time.com/4955704/nfl-league-rulebook-a62-63-national-anthem-rule/)

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Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


It's important to note the use of the word "may" here. The NFL is not considering punishing fines on players or teams who choose to kneel or stay in the locker room during the national anthem, the spokesperson says.

#Resist


Thanks for posting this, I've been wondering that myself.

To my mind, the whole point of protesting is doing something you're "not supposed to do." Even though the message has now been completely lost, Kaepernick's initial protest, albeit extremely mild, was effective for precisely that reason, he was doing something he was "not supposed to do."








Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on September 30, 2017, 09:15:14 PM

Though a slight hijack, here's something I've been wondering since last Fall, and have yet to find a satisfying answer:

How good an NFL quarterback is Colin Kaepernick? Is he of a caliber that he should be starting for an NFL team right now, or at least serving as a back-up? I've tried googling to find more information about this specific topic, but the answers vary widely, from he's better than half the current starting quarterbacks, to he's a back-up every NFL team should want on its roster, to he's a washed-up has-been.

The answer to this question, to my mind, cuts right to the heart of this matter, i.e. is he being deliberately blackballed by NFL owners for his actions, or is he simply not good enough to play on an NFL team, and his lack of a current contract is simply a reflection of the latter.

Any insight here from people with knowledge of the NFL would be greatly appreciated!









Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 30, 2017, 09:58:17 PM
The NFL lists about 80+ players as quarterbacks.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/players/_/position/qb

In my opinion, given his talent and history, conservatively he's better than 1/5th to 1/4 of those listed.

The product in the NFL is pretty bad right now, lack of practice and time to recover from injury is a huge factor, many, many among other things too numerous to mention.

Football is not my bailiwick, but I certainly understand lack of preparation and lack of rest can have quite a negative effect on an athlete's and team's performance.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 30, 2017, 10:00:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwdSdNpQg6Y

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on September 30, 2017, 10:21:58 PM
Kapernick started acting out when he stopped being a starter. He stopped being a starter due to 'common sense', as he was a loser, too many games, too many stray balls, too many happy feet quick throws to some imaginary player, some of which turned into interceptions.

His attitude likely did not shift, just become a more visible part of his persona, and the fans on his team hated him, plus if he ever was to go in and play, the expectation by all who saw him play in their history was marginal, did not win.

My answer months or weeks ago, whatever, would check with the resident archvist, grrr, is that he has a big arm, can throw long passes, and for a while did so with accuracy. He was playing behind a poor Offensive line, so was not able to handle the pressure to stay put until a receiver got open, and 'happy feet' would get rid of the ball, ineffecively... not tossing where the opposing team could not get it.

Attitude is most of what people pay Quarterbacks big bucks about.. Aptitude is a necessity for every level of every position on every NFL team, if you dont have the aptitude, you dont get onto the roster.. that simple... but Attitude is what people pay for with a leader, and pay big... as much to keep him away from their competitors, as for his performance for the home team.

Kappernick lost the battle to whoever replaced him at the time, who found a way to overcome that lousy protection the team offered, and his attitude took a dive. He was never a Hall Of Fame contender, no on his best day. He was, and might be, a capable NFL Quarterback, that is to say, he understands the job, and once did it with some competence.

When there are enough injuries in the NFL in this season, he will be considered to be a backup who can capably end a losing game without further problems, and maybe surprise some people and do well, at least part of the time and at least when the Team that hires him, should it happen, can give him the O Line he needs to take the time and read the plays as they develop, to connect to his own receivers.

I saw the post about 80 QBs listed for this season.  Figure however many teams times two capable QBs each on the field every game. Add to that the number of QB's and ever backup QB's who hold a slot at any given moment on the club's Practice Squad.  Kapernick certainly was good enough to be better than the Practice Squad guys, in recent times, as far as field leadership, communication with his players, communication with the bench... Aptitude.

No one wants a problem player, someone who distracts, someone who holds press conferences, someone the Press wants to interview, especially if that same player is not a STARTER for the team. Bad enough the distractions of the Starting players, who wants to buy trouble, negative attention, distraction.

That said, with enough injuries the NFL team rosters and coaches will look at everyone capable of ending a game without embarassment to the team... they have already called up players who were working in their Mom/Pops Used Clothing stores, and who were mechanics in some garage, and Colin Kapernick is on someones list, maybe a few someone's list, when the situation DEMANDS having the off field and on field distractions he promises to bring with him... and all that was before the political activity this year.

So the answer is " Yes, and.....", and he may get his turn again. Will see.

Wearing the Pig Socks to make his point about police, another violation of the NFL's own rules, did not, has not helped his case.  He had a contract, and walked away from it, choosing to roll the dice as a free agent... and it is what it is...

How many Million Dollars and Cap Space juggling do you want your favorite team to spend on a known quantity like Kapernick?  Did anyone offer him a job in a TV booth, or on sidelines interviews? Did anyone offer him StartingQB money... of course not, he is only qualifed to start upon near death of the current starter, and their backup QB's on the bench... all has to do with injury later this year, whether he can qualify for such a position.


Though a slight hijack, here's something I've been wondering since last Fall, and have yet to find a satisfying answer:

How good an NFL quarterback is Colin Kaepernick? Is he of a caliber that he should be starting for an NFL team right now, or at least serving as a back-up? I've tried googling to find more information about this specific topic, but the answers vary widely, from he's better than half the current starting quarterbacks, to he's a back-up every NFL team should want on its roster, to he's a washed-up has-been.

The answer to this question, to my mind, cuts right to the heart of this matter, i.e. is he being deliberately blackballed by NFL owners for his actions, or is he simply not good enough to play on an NFL team, and his lack of a current contract is simply a reflection of the latter.

Any insight here from people with knowledge of the NFL would be greatly appreciated!










Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 30, 2017, 11:01:18 PM
‘He’s a racist president’: Mainland Puerto Ricans are furious over Donald Trump’s debt talk amid hurricane crisis (https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/09/29/hes-a-racist-president-puerto-ricans-are-furious-over-donald-trumps-debt-talk-amid-hurricane-crisis.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 02, 2017, 12:41:30 AM
Ozark Bar Spells Out 'Lynch Kaepernick' in Side-by-Side Jersey Doormats (https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2017/09/27/ozark-bar-spells-out-lynch-kaepernick-in-side-by-side-jersey-doormats?platform=hootsuite)

(https://media2.fdncms.com/riverfronttimes/imager/u/blog/8753868/jersey.jpg?cb=1506533012)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 02, 2017, 11:12:01 PM
Ravens Fans Boo A Prayer Before The National Anthem (https://deadspin.com/ravens-fans-boo-a-prayer-before-the-national-anthem-1819038479)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 03, 2017, 12:09:31 AM
Tom Petty on Past Confederate Flag Use: 'It Was Downright Stupid' (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tom-petty-on-past-confederate-flag-use-it-was-downright-stupid-20150714)

Quote
South Carolina's decision to lower the Confederate flag on their statehouse has caused a wide range of reactions in the rock community. While many acts are cheering the decision of the South Carolina legislature, some acts are continuing to sell Confederate flag merchandise and rockers like Kid Rock remain defiant. "Isn't Kid Rock from the Midwest?" Tom Petty asks with a chuckle. "I think they were on the other side of the Civil War."

Petty, who featured the Confederate flag prominently onstage during his Southern Accents tour in 1985, spoke to Rolling Stone hours after the flag was taken down to express remorse for his actions.

The Confederate flag was the wallpaper of the South when I was a kid growing up in Gainesville, Florida. I always knew it had to do with the Civil War, but the South had adopted it as its logo. I was pretty ignorant of what it actually meant. It was on a flagpole in front of the courthouse and I often saw it in Western movies. I just honestly didn't give it much thought, though I should have.

In 1985, I released an album called Southern Accents. It began as a concept record about the South, but the concept part slipped away probably 70 percent or so into the album. I just let it go, but the Confederate flag became part of the marketing for the tour. I wish I had given it more thought. It was a downright stupid thing to do.

It happened because I had one song on the album called "Rebels." It's spoken from the point of view of the character, who talks about the traditions that have been handed down from family to family for so long that he almost feels guilty about the war. He still blames the North for the discomfort of his life, so my thought was the best way to illustrate this character was to use the Confederate flag.

I used it onstage during that song, and I regretted it pretty quickly. When we toured two years later, I noticed people in the audience wearing Confederate flag bandanas and things like that. One night, someone threw one onstage. I stopped everything and gave a speech about it. I said, "Look, this was to illustrate a character. This is not who we are. Having gone through this, I would prefer it if no one would ever bring a Confederate flag to our shows again because this isn't who we are."

It got a mixed reaction. There were some boos and some cheers. But honestly, it's a little amazing to me because I never saw one again after that speech in that one town. Fortunately, that went away, but it left me feeling stupid. That's the word I can use. I felt stupid. If I had just been a little more observant about things going on around me, it wouldn't have happened. We did do a live record [Pack Up The Plantation: Live!] and there was a picture inside of us playing in front of one. I went back and had it removed from the record. It took a little time to get done, but it did get done. I still feel bad about it. I've just always regretted it. I would never do anything to hurt someone.

Lowering the flag from the statehouse grounds was the right decision. That flag shouldn't have any part in our government. It shouldn't represent us in any way. The war is over. You know, it's a bit ironic: It's the only time that I know of where we defeated a country in a war and then flew their flag. But Americans were on both sides of the issues. I'm sure some people still carry it to their graves.

That Southern pride gets transferred from generation to generation. I'm sure that a lot of people that applaud it don't mean it in a racial way. But again, I have to give them, as I do myself, a "stupid" mark. If you think a bit longer, there's bad connotations to this. They might have it at the football game or whatever, but they also have it at Klan rallies. If that's part of it in any way, it doesn't belong, in any way, representing the United States of America.

To this day, I have good feelings for the South in many ways. There's some wonderful people down there. There are people still affected by what their relatives taught them. It isn't necessarily racism. They just don't like Yankees. They don't like the North. But when they wave that flag, they aren't stopping to think how it looks to a black person. I blame myself for not doing that. I should have gone around the fence and taken a good look at it. But honestly, it all stemmed from my trying to illustrate a character. I then just let it get out of control as a marketing device for the record. It was dumb and it shouldn't have happened.

Again, people just need to think about how it looks to a black person. It's just awful. It's like how a swastika looks to a Jewish person. It just shouldn't be on flagpoles.

Beyond the flag issue, we're living in a time that I never thought we'd see. The way we're losing black men and citizens in general is horrific. What's going on in society is unforgivable. As a country, we should be more concerned with why the police are getting away with targeting black men and killing them for no reason. That's a bigger issue than the flag. Years from now, people will look back on today and say, "You mean we privatized the prisons so there's no profit unless the prison is full?" You'd think someone in kindergarten could figure out how stupid that is. We're creating so many of our own problems.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 06, 2017, 01:04:41 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLVpYh7XcAACjtu.jpg)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 07, 2017, 02:58:05 AM
Video shows Utah police fatally shooting man from behind as he fled (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/05/patrick-harmon-utah-police-shooting)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 07, 2017, 03:15:52 AM
Here's How Breitbart And Milo Smuggled Nazi and White Nationalist Ideas Into The Mainstream (https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/heres-how-breitbart-and-milo-smuggled-white-nationalism?utm_term=.veM1RAGDO#.ci7jp1dD7)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 08, 2017, 12:55:43 AM
Even a video game’s ‘Make America Nazi-free Again’ slogan ticked some people off (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/10/07/even-a-video-games-make-america-nazi-free-again-slogan-ticked-some-people-off/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.6d9d03e23917)

This shouldn't be a difficult concept.

Nazis are bad, yo.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 08, 2017, 07:33:35 AM
  In a nation of at least 310,000,000 Citizens, the number of White Nationalist cretins out there is minimal, including all the biker gangs, Nazi party members, skinheads and KKK members, and that number has declined since 2011, and way down since Democrats honored the KKK openly, many years ago. Far fewer than 10,000 people in total, by SPLC estimates.
California seems the most plagued with such people, and 20 odd states have groups registered, sending out newsletters, etc., tracked by SPLC last in 2016.

  Such groups are known, investigated, and jailed when authorities can find reason and are dangerous, admittedly if one wishes to confront such people, but a minimal part of life in the United States.  Certainly not worth the ink they get in MSM recently.

  Antifa and BlackLivesMatter, and other extreme left groups are a far bigger issue and worry, with 43% of Democrats offering support for such people, and their aims, and these groups are not only growing, but becoming more militant and blatant in their threats and actions.  Law enforcement is well aware of this issue, and should be giving more resources to removing these actors from our day to day lives. These are worldwide groups in their actions, and fun raising, and need curbing especially in their fund raising efforts, and shaming of those who support such bigotry.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on October 08, 2017, 01:26:04 PM
  

Antifa and BlackLivesMatter, and other extreme left groups are a far bigger issue and worry.



Which pretty much sums up what is pathetic about your world viewpoint.  You really should turn off the Internet, get out of the basement, and go meet some people of color, some women, some gays.  The hate and fear you feel oozes from every post you make here, and has for years.  Please watch some football and scream at the television for me today.  History is laughing at you.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 08, 2017, 01:47:47 PM
White nationalists hold torch rally in Charlottesville (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-nationalists-hold-torch-rally-in-charlottesville/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 08, 2017, 01:49:04 PM
I'm not sure which thread joan1984 hates worse, the Trump thread where his hero gets exposed, or this thread where horrible people such as him get exposed.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on October 08, 2017, 02:01:06 PM
People like that wouldn't be happy even if he got everything he wanted: a wall, mass deportations, public executions...  It would never be enough to fill the gaping hole in his psyche.  Some people are just broken.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 09, 2017, 08:15:53 PM
Birth of a White Supremacist
(https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/16/birth-of-a-white-supremacist)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 09, 2017, 08:16:25 PM
Eric Reid: Vice President’s visit was a P.R. Stunt (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/08/eric-reid-vice-presidents-visit-was-a-p-r-stunt/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on October 09, 2017, 09:06:26 PM

Eric Reid: Vice President’s visit was a P.R. Stunt (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/08/eric-reid-vice-presidents-visit-was-a-p-r-stunt/)

#Resist

:-*


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 09, 2017, 11:19:46 PM
Jemele Hill Suspended by ESPN After Response to Jerry Jones (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/sports/football/jemele-hill-suspended-espn.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on October 10, 2017, 01:12:00 AM

Jemele Hill Suspended by ESPN After Response to Jerry Jones (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/sports/football/jemele-hill-suspended-espn.html)

#Resist


Athos, what's your personal opinion about this?

I'm really torn: I agree with what she said, both a couple of weeks ago, and today. But if she violated company policy, she violated company policy -- for the second time -- and she should be liable for the consequences.

The big factor, I assume, is that ESPN's been undergoing financial difficulties, and suffering from declining ratings. Given that, the last thing they want to do is have a well-known employee turning off viewers -- and advertisers.









Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 10, 2017, 01:49:22 AM

Jemele Hill Suspended by ESPN After Response to Jerry Jones (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/sports/football/jemele-hill-suspended-espn.html)

#Resist


Athos, what's your personal opinion about this?

I'm really torn: I agree with what she said, both a couple of weeks ago, and today. But if she violated company policy, she violated company policy -- for the second time -- and she should be liable for the consequences.

The big factor, I assume, is that ESPN's been undergoing financial difficulties, and suffering from declining ratings. Given that, the last thing they want to do is have a well-known employee turning off viewers -- and advertisers.









ESPN is a bunch of hypocrites.  Chris Broussard, Dick Vitale and Hank Williams Jr. are all employed by them.

Jemele Hill is held to higher standard of online conduct than Trump.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 10, 2017, 02:04:32 AM
  So, a nonresponsive reply... typical...


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 10, 2017, 02:05:49 AM
  So, a nonresponsive reply... typical...

Do you have a question, racist?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 10, 2017, 05:06:10 AM
  So, a nonresponsive reply... typical...

He responded to Barb's post, not the imaginary one in your head.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on October 10, 2017, 02:49:58 PM

  So, a nonresponsive reply... typical...


He responded to Barb's post, not the imaginary one in your head.


Exactly!

I asked for his opinion, and he provided it. The fact that he is able to write more briefly and concisely than I is a virtue, and not a defect.

In the bigger picture, this is a discussion Board, and this, specifically, is a discussion thread. You know, exchanging ideas; back and forth; criticizing and defending; not always agreeing, but always trying to understand; etc.

You should try it some time: It's fun, you learn things, and you expand your knowledge and outlook.






Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 10, 2017, 02:57:33 PM



I asked for his opinion, and he provided it. The fact that he is able to write more briefly and concisely than I is a virtue, and not a defect.



A lot of people rail on twitter, but I feel it makes you a better writer as you have to condense your thoughts.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 11, 2017, 02:01:21 AM
Black Students at Christian College Met With Racist Graffiti Telling Them They 'Don't Belong Here' (https://splinternews.com/black-students-at-christian-college-met-with-racist-gra-1819327079)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 11, 2017, 02:06:52 AM
Conservative Site Shamed Into Pulling Mega-Racist Columbus Day Video (https://splinternews.com/conservative-site-shamed-into-pulling-mega-racist-colum-1819332475)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on October 12, 2017, 04:03:25 AM
President Trump will become the first sitting president to address the Voters Value Summit on Friday in Washington.  The comments wil come following an announcement that the Trump administration will authorize overt bigotry and discrimination by elected officials in the name of "religious freedom."

Critics have called the group anti-LGBT, including the Human Research Council. The Southern Poverty Law Center has designated it as a hate group due to its statements and "false claims about the LGBT community."


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 12, 2017, 05:47:10 PM
Found not much to research on: Human Research Council.  Perhaps the name is less than exact? Is this a US based organization? Only one close seemed to be in South Africa.

The SPLC is not worthy of following any recommendation or critique. Far left, anti liberty group, in my opinion, seeks nothing positive as their outcome.

The Values Voter Summit is an annual event, since 2006 at least, hosting Republicans seeking high office, generally, including in previous years some Presidential Straw Polls and similar. Not a surprise a Republican President will be invited to speak, and am glad to see President Trump agree to speak there.

He is speaking to his existing and prospective voter base, regardless of their individual stands on Gay Marriage, Homosexuality, and Abortion, issues this group has strong positions about, along with personal liberty, national defense.



President Trump will become the first sitting president to address the Voters Value Summit on Friday in Washington.  The comments wil come following an announcement that the Trump administration will authorize overt bigotry and discrimination by elected officials in the name of "religious freedom."

Critics have called the group anti-LGBT, including the Human Research Council. The Southern Poverty Law Center has designated it as a hate group due to its statements and "false claims about the LGBT community."


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on October 13, 2017, 02:39:55 AM
Well he has nothing positive to say about individual liberties, he has trashed the First Amendment. And he is ignorant about national defense, he’s trying to start a war.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 13, 2017, 11:32:29 AM
How has the President trashed the First Amendment?  Exactly how?

  He may say things using verbiage you are not comfortable with, or different from other politicians at times, but trashing the First Amendment? Don't think so... seems all continue to say and do as they wish who may oppose his ideas or statements. The First Amendment is alive and working as it has all along.

  President Trump is not trying to start a war.  He quizzed, asked open ended questions, and was fully involved in what is often a boring "force review" with his National Defense Team, asking/demanding answers when some attempted to give platitudes about the status of ALL our capabilities. This upset some, and gave pause to any who believed they could slide past items, or found it difficult to defend our current status on some items, for which they are held accountable.

  Our "mainstream press" is too willing to solicit and print unattributed remarks of random people, if they can spin it against the Republican President. This is not new, as the mainstream press is always adversarial with Republicans, but having nothing real they choose to cover, and with a President who bites back when attacked, the 24/7 news cycle feeding occurs.

  Had Democrats offered different, better ideas, offered a less repulsive person or one who was guaranteed not to be in jail for major offenses which are still under review, the result of the last election would still have been close, and might have gone the direction the leftist media and Democrats, but I repeat myself, hoped for, but alas, Democrats offered 'the third Obama Admin', and that was rejected by the voters.

  READ the map, look at the number of counties each candidate carried, or the number of Congressional Districts each candidate carried, and the result is clear as to what the people want, whether their wants are possible or not is the only question, and in what time period.

  The need for the President to "troll" he Senate and Congress in order to get his own party members to do what they promised for the past seven years in their election campaigns is appalling and still is necessary, at least for now.

  I for one am glad we have a President willing to do what it takes, and willing to call out people like Bob Corker for his past actions, engineering the IRAN bill so that instead of having a Senate approve it as a treaty with the requisite number of votes in affirmative, our Senate congress would be forced to override a presidential veto to block that bill, yes, good reason for Bob Corker to never run again.

  Hopefully the electorate will appreciate the efforts and difficulty experienced within to get the items addressed that are necessary. It can be frustrating, and is very necessary to return our Nation and it's future to its proper status.

Well he has nothing positive to say about individual liberties, he has trashed the First Amendment. And he is ignorant about national defense, he’s trying to start a war.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on October 13, 2017, 12:44:43 PM
Trump is also going to force some 20 million Americans out of healthcare insurance. I think the GOP just lost the next election.

It is very likely that everyone’s health insurance premiums will see a marked increase. And that includes those of us who get it through our employers.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on October 13, 2017, 12:51:39 PM
Trump engages in provocative acts with an unstable regime, uses provocative language, to encite a response. The 5 yo POTUS is incapable of diplomacy.

He has advocated restricting the free speech of Americans, and the silencing of a news organization who does not slavishly praise him. Shades of Stalin.

Anything being reported that does not stroke his ego he calls fake news. Tinpot dictator.

He wants to allow government officials to discriminate against other religions and classes of people.

When he opens his mouth and it gets reported, he calls it fake news. Propaganda is his only refuge.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on October 13, 2017, 12:57:40 PM

  Hopefully the electorate will appreciate the efforts and difficulty experienced within to get the items addressed that are necessary. It can be frustrating, and is very necessary to return our Nation and it's future to its proper status.
look to The Weimar Republic, 1933. That is our future under Trump.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 13, 2017, 01:23:18 PM
The First Step to Recovery Is Admitting You're a Racist (https://splinternews.com/the-first-step-to-recovery-is-admitting-youre-a-racist-1819364092)

Please try to stay on topic here.

joan1984 hates this thread, is desperate to derail it and has made multiple attempts.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 13, 2017, 02:02:46 PM
  Little to do with any action toward 'trashing' the First Amendment. Opinions and comments, all valid in whatever direction, do not harm the First Amendment, but help it grow and remain strong.

  The President DOES have First Amendment rights, as do we all. Without any input by Democrats, by their own design of obstructionism, ideas of politicians and policy agreements between parties is not facilitated, and I can understand some frustration on the part of people who do not feel their own Congress Reps have their best interests in mind, or are ineffective at getting their ideas employed and discussed meaningfully.

  With no 'yes votes' offered to trade, negotiations are negligible, by self choice of Democrat leaders, and all Democrat Reps and Senators appear to agree to the lockstep following of Chuck and Nancy's policies, unless it no longer matters. Life is difficult, and differences between us all are exploited too often.

  Actions taken by Executive Order are vulnerable to change by Executive Order, it is the nature of the beast. With the failure of Congress to affect the desired changes, the President is using his authority to affect such changes.
This is all a process, toward bringing the lawful conclusion to issues bullied into use in prior years and lacking legislation to fix issues, a temporary change is better than no change.

  While not ideal, the result represents progress, and may help force some to find ways to agree to legislate. We shall see.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 13, 2017, 02:06:41 PM
Seven Bel Air High students disciplined for racist photo (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/harford/aegis/ph-ag-bahs-racist-incident-1013-story.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 13, 2017, 02:07:46 PM
Commentary: Donald Trump is a textbook racist (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-racist-20171010-story.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 13, 2017, 02:09:12 PM
Fmr. Governor of Puerto Rico Slams Trump on MSNBC: ‘He is Just Racist’ (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fmr-governor-of-puerto-rico-slams-trump-on-msnbc-he-is-just-racist/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 13, 2017, 02:11:09 PM
Trump and Pence’s war on black athletes has nothing to do with sports (https://www.salon.com/2017/10/12/trump-and-pences-war-on-black-athletes-has-nothing-to-do-with-sports/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 14, 2017, 01:18:51 AM
ESPN's Jemele Hill is being reduced to an 'angry black woman' (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/12/espn-jemele-hill-angry-black-woman-suspension-nfl)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 14, 2017, 01:33:12 AM
High Schoolers Get Homecoming Canceled After Pulling Racist Anti-Native Stunt (https://splinternews.com/high-schoolers-get-homecoming-canceled-after-pulling-ra-1819436542)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 15, 2017, 12:23:06 AM
School district pulls 'To Kill A Mockingbird' from reading list; 'makes people uncomfortable' (http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/10/mississippi_school_district_pu.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 15, 2017, 01:45:43 AM
School district pulls 'To Kill A Mockingbird' from reading list; 'makes people uncomfortable' (http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/10/mississippi_school_district_pu.html)

#Resist

I think the real reason it was removed is because it used complex sentences.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on October 15, 2017, 08:11:47 AM
Sometimes good stuff happens too...

German Soccer Team Kneels During Game In Solidarity With NFL Players

“For a tolerant Berlin and an open-minded world, now and forevermore!”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/german-soccer-team-kneeling-protest_us_59e2a457e4b04d1d51822c63


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on October 15, 2017, 08:27:26 PM

Sometimes good stuff happens too...

German Soccer Team Kneels During Game In Solidarity With NFL Players

“For a tolerant Berlin and an open-minded world, now and forevermore!”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/german-soccer-team-kneeling-protest_us_59e2a457e4b04d1d51822c63


Thanks for posting this.

I love the line, "We are living in the 21st century, not the 18th century, but there are some people who haven’t developed their ideologies accordingly."

As I've often said, it sometimes takes a non-American to most accurately point out the faults and failings of Americans.






Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on October 15, 2017, 08:55:41 PM

Sometimes good stuff happens too...

German Soccer Team Kneels During Game In Solidarity With NFL Players

“For a tolerant Berlin and an open-minded world, now and forevermore!”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/german-soccer-team-kneeling-protest_us_59e2a457e4b04d1d51822c63


Thanks for posting this.

I love the line, "We are living in the 21st century, not the 18th century, but there are some people who haven’t developed their ideologies accordingly."

As I've often said, it sometimes takes a non-American to most accurately point out the faults and failings of Americans.






It's particularly poignant coming from the Germans who, having already gone the Fascist and nationalistic route once themselves, have absolutely no interest in heading down that road again.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on October 15, 2017, 09:35:10 PM

It's particularly poignant coming from the Germans who, having already gone the Fascist and nationalistic route once themselves, have absolutely no interest in heading down that road again.


(http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/philosophy/history/learning_from_history.jpg)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 16, 2017, 12:58:50 AM

Sometimes good stuff happens too...

German Soccer Team Kneels During Game In Solidarity With NFL Players

“For a tolerant Berlin and an open-minded world, now and forevermore!”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/german-soccer-team-kneeling-protest_us_59e2a457e4b04d1d51822c63


Thanks for posting this.

I love the line, "We are living in the 21st century, not the 18th century, but there are some people who haven’t developed their ideologies accordingly."

As I've often said, it sometimes takes a non-American to most accurately point out the faults and failings of Americans.


It's particularly poignant coming from the Germans who, having already gone the Fascist and nationalistic route once themselves, have absolutely no interest in heading down that road again.


Nationalism/facism is a failed system. The Germans have first hand understanding of this. It's a shame that people seem to have forgotten this. Hitler committed the most evil crimes imaginable, and yet these crimes have been repeated. WTF is wrong? Denial and stupidity.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 17, 2017, 01:07:15 AM
Hundreds March for 11-Year-Old Utah Boy After Bullies Shouted Racial Slurs at Him as He Walked Home From School   (https://www.theroot.com/hundreds-march-for-11-year-old-utah-boy-after-bullies-s-1819513708)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 18, 2017, 02:26:49 AM
Dear White People: Be More Like Gregg Popovich (https://theintercept.com/2017/10/17/gregg-popovich-trump-white-privledge-race-kaepernick/)

Quote
I’ve been amazed and disappointed by so much of what this president had said, and his approach to running this country, which seems to be one of just a never ending divisiveness. But his comments today about those who have lost loved ones in times of war and his lies that previous presidents Obama and Bush never contacted their families are so beyond the pale, I almost don’t have the words.

This man in the Oval Office is a soulless coward who thinks that he can only become large by belittling others. This has of course been a common practice of his, but to do it in this manner — and to lie about how previous presidents responded to the deaths of soldiers — is as low as it gets. We have a pathological liar in the White House, unfit intellectually, emotionally, and psychologically to hold this office, and the whole world knows it, especially those around him every day. The people who work with this president should be ashamed, because they know better than anyone just how unfit he is, and yet they choose to do nothing about it. This is their shame most of all.


#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on October 18, 2017, 05:20:13 AM
We love Pops.  Except the ones who hate him.  We need more people in Texas willing to stand for something.  This state is just a cesspool of Ted Cruz offal.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on October 18, 2017, 07:32:42 AM
NFL rejects rule change that would force players to stand for the national anthem

Owners met with players on Tuesday and discussed ways they can work together for positive change on social issues

(https://s1.postimg.org/1km2cxzxen/ap_17267495802160_507ae0b91b0ae9d6b3b65c95431beaaa.nbcnews-ux-28.jpg)

All eyes have been on NFL players who are protesting police brutality and racial inequality during the national anthem. On Tuesday, NFL owners decided against a mandate that would have required players to stand for the anthem going forward. There will be no rule change, according to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport...

Read the rest here: https://www.sbnation.com/2017/10/17/16465366/nfl-rule-change-stand-national-anthem-player-protests


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 18, 2017, 07:40:21 PM
Taking the knee before the flag is a sign of respect.  Soldiers do this in honor of their fallen comrades. Athletes are taking the knee in recognition of all those that have died because of police violence.

I often car-pooled with people from all backgrounds.  Black and Hispanic carpool folks often told me of police pulling them over for no good reason to harass them.  It was usually the claim of a malfunctioning tail light that turned out being just fine. And it was not just harassment, but beatings and rape as well.

People are just tired of it all.  How many of our citizens need to die? I applaud everyone that can send the message that enough is enough.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 18, 2017, 08:14:07 PM
  Standing during the National Anthem is the expected form of respect.

  The issue Colin Kappernick and other players wish to address with their public display may well be within what their employer expects of players. Such display of not standing during the National Anthem, if one is physically able, is not what NFL Fans expect of the teams, and league, and players.

  Fans will display their displeasure with their dollars, and game attendance it seems, from the look of the empty seats in many NFL stadiums in past weeks.

  The 2018 NFL Season will tall the tale, as most teams sell out their available seats for every game, to Season Ticket Holders and to advanced sale to fans or ticket brokers. The 2017 empty seats are less burdensome financially to Teams then are the lost sales at the stadiums, and the lost tax revenue on such sales to the various towns whose citizens support the NFL stadium in their midst.

  If season ticket sales go wanting for 2018, the NFL will have only itself to blame for how they handled this issue, for which there is a clear rule, and for which there is clear precedent, with a player fined a game check, threatened future game checks, who then decided to comply.

  The fiction that some ex-Army guy counseled Colin Kappernick to kneel as a sign of respect for the Military is just that. Believe that, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NYC to sell you, a really great deal.

  Did his ex-Army friend advise him to support Fidel Castro, and other dictators and urge him to wear Police Are Pigs socks as well?

  Seems to me a valid cause is receiving lots of publicity, and getting little help from NFL viewers and fans, due to the venue in which this protest occurs. The National Anthem has nothing to do with such a protest.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on October 18, 2017, 09:04:28 PM
 Standing during the National Anthem is the expected form of respect.

  The issue Colin Kappernick and other players wish to address with their public display may well be within what their employer expects of players. Such display of not standing during the National Anthem, if one is physically able, is not what NFL Fans expect of the teams, and league, and players.

  Fans will display their displeasure with their dollars, and game attendance it seems, from the look of the empty seats in many NFL stadiums in past weeks.

  The 2018 NFL Season will tall the tale, as most teams sell out their available seats for every game, to Season Ticket Holders and to advanced sale to fans or ticket brokers. The 2017 empty seats are less burdensome financially to Teams then are the lost sales at the stadiums, and the lost tax revenue on such sales to the various towns whose citizens support the NFL stadium in their midst.

  If season ticket sales go wanting for 2018, the NFL will have only itself to blame for how they handled this issue, for which there is a clear rule, and for which there is clear precedent, with a player fined a game check, threatened future game checks, who then decided to comply.

  The fiction that some ex-Army guy counseled Colin Kappernick to kneel as a sign of respect for the Military is just that. Believe that, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NYC to sell you, a really great deal.

  Did his ex-Army friend advise him to support Fidel Castro, and other dictators and urge him to wear Police Are Pigs socks as well?

  Seems to me a valid cause is receiving lots of publicity, and getting little help from NFL viewers and fans, due to the venue in which this protest occurs. The National Anthem has nothing to do with such a protest.

Unless and until you start backing up your endless assertions with evidence and sources, you're just a pair of lips flapping in the wind.

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Post edited to add the following:


Joan: "Such display of not standing during the National Anthem, if one is physically able, is not what NFL Fans expect of the teams, and league, and players."

You don't speak for the players, and you don't know their minds. Provide evidence of your claim, or retract it.


Joan: "Fans will display their displeasure with their dollars, and game attendance it seems, from the look of the empty seats in many NFL stadiums in past weeks."

You are wrong: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/sep/24/donald-trump/trumps-mostly-false-claim-nfl-ratings-are-way-down/


Joan: "If season ticket sales go wanting for 2018, the NFL will have only itself to blame for how they handled this issue, for which there is a clear rule, and for which there is clear precedent, with a player fined a game check, threatened future game checks, who then decided to comply."

What language are you attempting to write in, and what the fuck are you trying to say? See my response above, re: attendance is NOT way down.


Joan: "The fiction that some ex-Army guy counseled Colin Kappernick to kneel as a sign of respect for the Military is just that."

You couldn't possibly know who counseled Kappernick, nor what was said or not said. Either prove this silly statement or retract it.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on October 18, 2017, 09:05:48 PM
My father, an infantry officer, has said that this is a protected form of speech. That he spent most of his adult life with the colors, protecting and defending that right among others.

It is their right to do so.

If it offends you, too bad. There is NO law requiring you to doff your hat, or rise, or place your hand over your heart during the playing of the national anthem. Private, civilian citizens are not compelled by law to render honors to the flag or the anthem.

I wish you would educate yourself in this.

It is, however, the duty, and sworn oath of the POTUS to defend the NFL players right to free speech. Something he has now violated in his comments.

President Trump, oath breaker. He can be viewed not only as in contradiction to his oath of office, but also having violated federal law by speaking out as he has done in this manner.



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 18, 2017, 10:06:01 PM
  Standing during the National Anthem is the expected form of respect.

No it is not.  Placing your right hand over your heart is expected, but standing is optional. Many people cannot stand.  Taking the knee is special form of respect used in the military.  But it really does not matter because we have freedom in the USA to express ourselves as we wish.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 18, 2017, 10:52:40 PM
  Actually, Katiebee, the First Amendment dictates that the government shall not interfere with a citizen's rights, and in this case, does not apply, as the government has nothing to do with what the NFL and it's employees may do.

  This is between the NFL, it's employees, it's rules, and it's fans/sponsors. The President, as a fan, has an opinion and voiced it, as have many citizens who care about the issue, and it is his right to express his opinion, as we all agree.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on October 18, 2017, 11:00:52 PM
Joan, what part of POTUS does NOT apply to the government? The orange asshole speaks for the government. If Obama had said something similar you would be screaming your fucking head off about it being against the Constitution and he is not allowed to say those things. Trump has advocated punishing the players that kneel. And that is in contravention of his oath of office AND the law.

You are ignorant, and frankly your last post is blatantly stupid, with absolutely no redeeming aspects.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 18, 2017, 11:51:40 PM

  The fiction that some ex-Army guy counseled Colin Kappernick to kneel as a sign of respect for the Military is just that. Believe that, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NYC to sell you, a really great deal.


Fuck off, you racist shitbag.

Did a U.S. Veteran Influence Kaepernick's 'Take a Knee' Protest of Police Brutality?

 (http://www.snopes.com/veteran-kaepernick-take-a-knee-anthem/)
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In September 2017, as many criticized the “take a knee” protests by National Football League players as anti-military, readers wrote in to ask if a veteran had played a role in Colin Kaepernick’s decision to kneel during the national anthem in protest of police killings of African Americans.

Army Special Forces veteran Nate Boyer has said that his conversations with Kaepernick influenced the former NFL player to kneel, rather than sit, during the anthem.

Kaepernick began his protest by sitting on the bench during the anthem prior to a preseason game on 14 August 2016 when he was playing for the San Francisco 49ers. He was not in uniform at the time. The protest began garnering coverage when journalist Jennifer Lee Chan captured him sitting (this time in uniform) in a photograph prior to the team’s third preseason game on 26 August 2016.

Two days later, Kaepernick spoke to reporters about the protest. The encounter included this exchange:

Reporter: So many people see the flag as a symbol of the military. How do you view it and what do you say to those people?

Kaepernick: I have great respect for the men and women that have fought for this country. I have family, I have friends that have gone and fought for this country. And they fight for freedom, they fight for the people, they fight for liberty and justice, for everyone. That’s not happening. People are dying in vain because this country isn’t holding their end of the bargain up, as far as giving freedom and justice, liberty to everybody. That’s something that’s not happening. I’ve seen videos, I’ve seen circumstances where men and women that have been in the military have come back and been treated unjustly by the country they have fought for, and have been murdered by the country they fought for, on our land. That’s not right.


When asked whether his protest could be construed as “a blanket indictment of law enforcement in general,” Kaepernick said:

There is police brutality. People of color have been targeted by police. So that’s a large part of it and they’re government officials. They are put in place by the government. So that’s something that this country has to change. There’s things we can do to hold them more accountable. Make those standards higher. You have people that practice law and are lawyers and go to school for eight years, but you can become a cop in six months and don’t have to have the same amount of training as a cosmetologist. That’s insane. Someone that’s holding a curling iron has more education and more training than people that have a gun and are going out on the street to protect us.

On 30 August 2016, the Army Times published an open letter to Kaepernick from former Seattle Seahawks player Nate Boyer, who served as a Green Beret in U.S. military actions in both Afghanistan and Iraq. In the piece, Boyer reflected on how he felt standing on the field as the anthem played during his only appearance for the Seahawks:

I thought about how far I’d come and the men I’d fought alongside who didn’t make it back. I thought about those overseas who were risking their lives at that very moment. I selfishly thought about what I had sacrificed to get to where I was, and while I knew I had little to no chance of making the Seahawks’ roster as a 34-year-old rookie, I was trying.

That moment meant so much more to me than even playing in the game did, and to be honest, if I had noticed my teammate sitting on the bench, it would have really hurt me.

I’m not judging you for standing up for what you believe in. It’s your inalienable right. What you are doing takes a lot of courage, and I’d be lying if I said I knew what it was like to walk around in your shoes. I’ve never had to deal with prejudice because of the color of my skin, and for me to say I can relate to what you’ve gone through is as ignorant as someone who’s never been in a combat zone telling me they understand what it’s like to go to war.


Boyer and Kaepernick met after the open letter was published, and before San Francisco’s final preseason game on 2 September 2016 in San Diego — the first time the quarterback knelt in front of the bench instead of sitting during the anthem. Boyer posted a photograph of himself with Kaepernick following the meeting, and later said:

We sorta came to a middle ground where he would take a knee alongside his teammate. Soldiers take a knee in front of a fallen brother’s grave, you know, to show respect. When we’re on a patrol, you know, and we go into a security halt, we take a knee, and we pull security.

Kaepernick’s then-teammate Eric Reid joined him in kneeling for the protest prior to that game. He recalled the experience in an op-ed published by The New York Times on 25 September 2017:

After hours of careful consideration, and even a visit from Nate Boyer, a retired Green Beret and former NFL player, we came to the conclusion that we should kneel, rather than sit, the next day during the anthem as a peaceful protest. We chose to kneel because it’s a respectful gesture. I remember thinking our posture was like a flag flown at half-mast to mark a tragedy.

Boyer also expanded on his discussion with both Reid and Kaepernick during a CNN town hall broadcast on 27 September 2017:

[Kaepernick] reached out and we were able to sit down together for a couple of hours before the last preseason game last year. It was really cool to hear him just listen, too, and be very open-minded, too, and [say] “Look, I don’t want to hurt you, I don’t want to hurt your brothers and sisters.” I showed him text messages of friends of mine and some of them were saying I was a disgrace to the Green Berets ’cause I was even meeting with him. And some of them were like, “I’m with you man but it really hurts me to see that.”

So when I talked to them, it was mutual. Me, him, and Eric Reid [said] “I think maybe taking a knee would be a little more respectful. It’s still a demonstration. You’re still saying something but, people take a knee to pray. So for me it was a common ground, at least, to start from.


Although Kaepernick is not currently signed to a team, various NFL players and team owners adopted the kneeling protest prior to games on 24 September 2017 after President Donald Trump told supporters during a rally that owners should fire any player who engaged in the demonstration, saying, “Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, he’s fired. He’s fired.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 19, 2017, 01:30:29 AM
Thank you for the post Athos.  I hope Joan reads it. It explains why kneeling is a respectful alternative to just sitting on the bench. 


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 19, 2017, 02:26:43 AM
Cheerleaders apparently thought screaming ‘f–k n–gers’ was the height of wit (http://nypost.com/2017/10/17/video-of-cheerleaders-chanting-n-word-prompts-school-probe/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on October 19, 2017, 03:26:20 PM

  Actually, Katiebee, the First Amendment dictates that the government shall not interfere with a citizen's rights, and in this case, does not apply, as the government has nothing to do with what the NFL and it's employees may do.


On the one hand, the First Amendment in no way "dictates that the government shall not interfere with a citizen's rights." It bars the federal Congress from passing legislation that violates a small group of specific and defined rights. And understanding this difference is vital.

On the other hand, taking your statement at face value, if "the government has nothing to do with what the NFL and it's [sic] employees may do," should I assume you join me in condemning the U.S. president -- the personification of "the government" -- for dictating what the NFL and its employees may do? You know, those "sons of bitches"?



  This is between the NFL, it's employees, it's rules, and it's fans/sponsors. The President, as a fan, has an opinion and voiced it, as have many citizens who care about the issue, and it is his right to express his opinion, as we all agree.


In past years, you routinely condemned Obama when he voiced his opinions on issues. Why is what was proscribed for Obama celebrated for Trump? Why did Obama not have a right to express his opinion, while his successor does?

I can very clearly imagine how, had Obama issued a profanity-laced condemnation of a private business and its employees, your cries of objection could be heard clear across the country.

Add to that, you're guilty of one of the biggest (and, unfortunately, most preponderant) logical fallacies of them all: Just because someone has a right to say something doesn't mean he's right in saying it. So yes, "we all agree" that Trump had the right to say what he did. But "we all" condemn the content (and appropriateness...and sanity...) of what he said. His right to say it, in this context, is completely irrelevant.






Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MintJulie on October 19, 2017, 03:36:07 PM
Cheerleaders apparently thought screaming ‘f–k n–gers’ was the height of wit (http://nypost.com/2017/10/17/video-of-cheerleaders-chanting-n-word-prompts-school-probe/)

#Resist

I played the video before reading the article and something seemed off.   It was only the last girl that seemed like her voice matched her lip movement.      But then there is mention that the video might be playing backwards.   Watch that last girl after she voices the phrase....she quickly closes her mouth and licks her lips.   The natural movement would be licking your lips and then speaking.   I do think it is being played backwards.   
If not, such a shame.



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 19, 2017, 03:43:16 PM
  I agree, that there are things for which "rights" may exist, that are wrong.
When Obama interfered with his opinion, without gathering facts, then stayed with that opinion, such as the 'Skip Gates' incident, and the Ferguson tradgedy in which our President took positions opposite of the lawful action of Police, I was upset, damn right I was upset.

  That made no difference to how some felt here, nor was it expected to make a difference. The fact is he was wrong, which was later shown, as his own DOJ investigated ad nauseum, in those and in many other cases.

  Does not mean President Trump is a racist. He is not a racist, never has been and I don't expect he will be. Calling him racist is wrong. Ignoring the calling of racist when it is clearly wrong, the slandering of our President that way, is also wrong.

  Time will tell how the NFL actions, and inactions, are accepted by football fans who pay to view, pay to attend games, pay a lot, only to face leftists prior to each game, essentially spitting on America. Feeling it in their wallet may be the only solution, to get this tax subsidized group to do the right thing.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on October 19, 2017, 03:57:46 PM

  Standing during the National Anthem is the expected form of respect.

  The issue Colin Kappernick and other players wish to address with their public display may well be within what their employer expects of players. Such display of not standing during the National Anthem, if one is physically able, is not what NFL Fans expect of the teams, and league, and players.

  Fans will display their displeasure with their dollars, and game attendance it seems, from the look of the empty seats in many NFL stadiums in past weeks.

  The 2018 NFL Season will tall the tale, as most teams sell out their available seats for every game, to Season Ticket Holders and to advanced sale to fans or ticket brokers. The 2017 empty seats are less burdensome financially to Teams then are the lost sales at the stadiums, and the lost tax revenue on such sales to the various towns whose citizens support the NFL stadium in their midst.

  If season ticket sales go wanting for 2018, the NFL will have only itself to blame for how they handled this issue, for which there is a clear rule, and for which there is clear precedent, with a player fined a game check, threatened future game checks, who then decided to comply.

  The fiction that some ex-Army guy counseled Colin Kappernick to kneel as a sign of respect for the Military is just that. Believe that, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NYC to sell you, a really great deal.

  Did his ex-Army friend advise him to support Fidel Castro, and other dictators and urge him to wear Police Are Pigs socks as well?

  Seems to me a valid cause is receiving lots of publicity, and getting little help from NFL viewers and fans, due to the venue in which this protest occurs. The National Anthem has nothing to do with such a protest.


Unless and until you start backing up your endless assertions with evidence and sources, you're just a pair of lips flapping in the wind.

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Post edited to add the following:


Joan: "Such display of not standing during the National Anthem, if one is physically able, is not what NFL Fans expect of the teams, and league, and players."

You don't speak for the players, and you don't know their minds. Provide evidence of your claim, or retract it.


And, more to the point, you don't speak for "NFL fans." You're right: There are some fans who object to the players' protests, most of whom object in general to Black Americans struggling for equal rights.

Then again, your post appears in a thread that demonstrates that "Racism Is Alive and Well, Thanks to Trump and His Supporters," so those fans objections -- and yours -- are, sadly, to be expected.

P.S. Props to Northwest for his wonderful line, "Unless and until you start backing up your endless assertions with evidence and sources, you're just a pair of lips flapping in the wind."






Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on October 19, 2017, 04:36:38 PM
 I agree, that there are things for which "rights" may exist, that are wrong.
When Obama interfered with his opinion, without gathering facts, then stayed with that opinion, such as the 'Skip Gates' incident, and the Ferguson tradgedy in which our President took positions opposite of the lawful action of Police, I was upset, damn right I was upset.

  That made no difference to how some felt here, nor was it expected to make a difference. The fact is he was wrong, which was later shown, as his own DOJ investigated ad nauseum, in those and in many other cases.

  Does not mean President Trump is a racist. He is not a racist, never has been and I don't expect he will be. Calling him racist is wrong. Ignoring the calling of racist when it is clearly wrong, the slandering of our President that way, is also wrong.

  Time will tell how the NFL actions, and inactions, are accepted by football fans who pay to view, pay to attend games, pay a lot, only to face leftists prior to each game, essentially spitting on America. Feeling it in their wallet may be the only solution, to get this tax subsidized group to do the right thing.

MissBarbara, I thought your comments were well reasoned and well stated. Joan, however, simply did what she usually does -- grabbed bit and pieces out of the whole and applied them selectively, while employing double standards and ignoring your essential meaning. One set of rules for those on the left; an entirely different set of rules for those whom she supports.

The writing above is a mass of disorganized semi-coherent thought fragments which imply (though not state, for nothing is stated clearly) that Obama is always guilty of everything, while Trump is perpetually innocent.

And, as is frequently the case with Joan's writing, the important points are simply assertions, sans evidence or proof, where opinions are offered as fact, while Joan speaks authoritatively about the thoughts and feelings of others claiming knowledge of things about which she does not know, and could not know:

Quote
" That made no difference to how some felt here, nor was it expected to make a difference."

If they give points for stubbornness, then Joan will max out that category. But in all other respects, her writing is simply a display of lousy reasoning, paired with poor expression: Obama bad; Trump good. Ugh.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on October 19, 2017, 05:51:00 PM
And, more to the point, you don't speak for "NFL fans." You're right: There are some fans who object to the players' protests, most of whom object in general to Black Americans struggling for equal rights.

Then again, your post appears in a thread that demonstrates that "Racism Is Alive and Well, Thanks to Trump and His Supporters," so those fans objections -- and yours -- are, sadly, to be expected.

P.S. Props to Northwest for his wonderful line, "Unless and until you start backing up your endless assertions with evidence and sources, you're just a pair of lips flapping in the wind."


You snuck this in while I was composing my message, and I didn't see it until just now -- an hour or more after you posted it. My comments above, obviously, referred to your prior message. I'm sure that that's obvious from context, but in the interest of complete clarity...

(Interesting, my spell checker informs me that there is no such word as "snuck", but we are going to have to disagree on that point. I sneaked it in, and there's nothing they can do to stop me.)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on October 19, 2017, 07:22:52 PM

  I agree, that there are things for which "rights" may exist, that are wrong.
When Obama interfered with his opinion, without gathering facts, then stayed with that opinion, such as the 'Skip Gates' incident, and the Ferguson tradgedy in which our President took positions opposite of the lawful action of Police, I was upset, damn right I was upset.

  That made no difference to how some felt here, nor was it expected to make a difference. The fact is he was wrong, which was later shown, as his own DOJ investigated ad nauseum, in those and in many other cases.


You're proving my point. Obama "interfered," while Trump "has an opinion and voiced it."

And in what universe does a sitting president calling employees of a private business to be fired not considered interference?




    Does not mean President Trump is a racist. He is not a racist, never has been and I don't expect he will be. Calling him racist is wrong. Ignoring the calling of racist when it is clearly wrong, the slandering of our President that way, is also wrong.


I didn't say that Trump was a racist. In fact, I don't think I've ever said that, neither here nor in real life.

Please respond to what I actually write, and not to what you think I think.



  Time will tell how the NFL actions, and inactions, are accepted by football fans who pay to view, pay to attend games, pay a lot, only to face leftists prior to each game, essentially spitting on America. Feeling it in their wallet may be the only solution, to get this tax subsidized group to do the right thing.


Those NFL fans who pay to view NFL games who are disgusted by "leftists" [read: black people and those who support them] protesting during the National Anthem have one aggressively simple way to avoid this: Don't turn on the game until the National Anthem has concluded. But that's too easy...





Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on October 19, 2017, 07:36:06 PM
Well I, for one, think Trump is clearly a racist. What standard of proof are we operating at here? Do we have to wait until he self identifies and admits it? Isn't a consistent and persistent pattern of treating people of color by entirely different rules de facto racism?

I think it is.

Which, obviously, is NOT a contradiction of your point, MissBarbara. Simply me putting my cards on the table.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 19, 2017, 10:04:24 PM
NorthWest, go back and read the dialog in 1408 and Politics from the 2008 election campaign, and the 8 years of the Obama Administration, as to what differences anything made of comments here, of the people here.

Other than 180 degree turn by many, when it comes to The Prophet, versus our current President, opinions expressed here, calling out actions, resulted in absolutely no change at KB.  The change occurs outside KB, in the many thousands of voters in U.S. Counties/Districts, that rejected Obama's form of governing, and rejected any chance we may see more of that after he is gone.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on October 19, 2017, 10:49:21 PM
If you're making a point which is salient to something I've said, it escapes me. Perhaps if you quoted the original comment?

Or maybe you aren't...in which case I still don't get it. Your post (above) seems to contain several partially expressed ideas, which don't combine to form a whole.

Would it help you to understand my confusion if I told you that I'm absolutely certain that Obama would have secured a third term, had it been possible for him to run again? Trump's victory was not a repudiation of Obama (who remains fantastically more popular than Trump has been at ANY stage of his presidency or candidacy) but a rejection of the "politics as usual" of the Republican party, and a similar rejection of a very disappointing Democratic candidate who fumbled her shot at the presidency. 

Your understandings of recent events, and the causes for them,  are not very accurate in my view. You come across as highly opinionated, and seriously misinformed. I don't point out the deficiencies in your writing, your sourcing and your reasoning, simply to pick on you. I point out those things because they are, in fact, reality as I encounter it. You have not shown yourself to be capable of building a persuasive or credible argument to support the positions you hold.

Trump is probably the least popular president in the history of the nation (but CERTAINLY the least popular president of the last hundred years) while Obama remains one of the best liked and most respected. I can back those statements up with research, with polling, and I can quantify the differences, and support the positions I just laid out. If you want to convince me of something, try learning to do the same.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 20, 2017, 12:03:39 AM

  Does not mean President Trump is a racist. He is not a racist, never has been and I don't expect he will be. Calling him racist is wrong. Ignoring the calling of racist when it is clearly wrong,

There is indisputable evidence in these posts that prove Trump to be a racist.

http://www.kristensboard.com/forums/index.php?topic=60237.msg474926#msg474926

http://www.kristensboard.com/forums/index.php?topic=60237.msg474925#msg474925

http://www.kristensboard.com/forums/index.php?topic=60237.msg474924#msg474924

http://www.kristensboard.com/forums/index.php?topic=60237.msg474923#msg474923

http://www.kristensboard.com/forums/index.php?topic=60237.msg474962#msg474962

http://www.kristensboard.com/forums/index.php?topic=60237.msg474961#msg474961

http://www.kristensboard.com/forums/index.php?topic=60237.msg474960#msg474960

http://www.kristensboard.com/forums/index.php?topic=60237.msg474959#msg474959

http://www.kristensboard.com/forums/index.php?topic=60237.msg474957#msg474957

http://www.kristensboard.com/forums/index.php?topic=60237.msg474956#msg474956

This is a pattern for Trump.

joan1984 is also a racist.  When challenged on this last time the links and sources were provided.  None were disputed. 

If anyone has evidence the claims in these articles are false, please provide them.


the slandering of our President that way, is also wrong.


Oh, the hypocrisy.

#Resist




Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 20, 2017, 12:16:36 AM
   RACIST is a strong claim, a slanderous claim, usually not warranted.

Not everything with a racial component is racist. Crying 'wolf' as is so often done with this claim, leaves people, your opponents in this case, and fair minded people overall, less willing to believe your next claim.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on October 20, 2017, 12:21:57 AM

Which, obviously, is NOT a contradiction of your point, MissBarbara. Simply me putting my cards on the table.


I understand your point, and it's at least as valid as mine.

The main reason I've never said Trump is a racist is because the word "racist" has been rendered completely meaningless.

One point that seems inescapable to me is the fact that Trump's campaign slogan was "Make America Great Again." And one of his first acts as president was to ban people from a list of predominantly Muslim countries from entering the U.S. Thus, banning Muslims is the way to "Make America Great Again."

I'm not saying Trump is racist, but...






Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on October 20, 2017, 12:24:43 AM

   RACIST is a strong claim, a slanderous claim, usually not warranted.


In what ways is it "slanderous"?

From your usage here and above, it's clear you don't know what the word means.





Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on October 20, 2017, 12:39:33 AM
The main reason I've never said Trump is a racist is because the word "racist" has been rendered completely meaningless.

A tad overstated, but I take your point and I agree. It's like a word you repeat so many times that it loses any meaning.

But if you ask me to speak the truth as I see it, and if I think Trump is, at the core of his being, a racist, the answer is yes. That's simply what I believe.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 20, 2017, 12:43:53 AM
  RACIST is a strong claim, a slanderous claim, usually not warranted.

Not everything with a racial component is racist. Crying 'wolf' as is so often done with this claim, leaves people, your opponents in this case, and fair minded people overall, less willing to believe your next claim.

Do you have evidence that refutes the racist actions in those sources, racist?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 20, 2017, 03:40:32 AM
Florida Parole Officer's Racist Rant at Latinx Workers Caught on Camera (https://splinternews.com/florida-parole-officers-racist-rant-at-latinx-workers-c-1819680863)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 20, 2017, 04:02:06 AM
George W. Bush’s unmistakable takedown of Trumpism — and Trump (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/19/george-w-bushs-unmistakable-takedown-of-trumpism-and-trump/?tid=sm_fb_pol&utm_term=.b979b5691711)

Quote
Speaking at a George W. Bush Institute event in New York, Bush didn't use Trump's name, but his target became clearer as the speech progressed. Here's a sampling:

“Bigotry seems emboldened. Our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication.”

“We’ve seen nationalism distorted into nativism.”

“We’ve seen our discourse degraded by casual cruelty. . . . Argument turns too easily into animosity.”

“It means that bigotry and white supremacy in any form is blasphemy against the American creed, and it means the very identity of our nation depends on passing along civic ideals.”

“Bullying and prejudice in our public life … provides permission for cruelty and bigotry.”

“The only way to pass along civic values is to live up to them.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on October 20, 2017, 05:05:55 AM


“The only way to pass along civic values is to live up to them.”



I give the entire Teapublican Party a big F- in this category.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 20, 2017, 04:46:53 PM

Which, obviously, is NOT a contradiction of your point, MissBarbara. Simply me putting my cards on the table.


I understand your point, and it's at least as valid as mine.

The main reason I've never said Trump is a racist is because the word "racist" has been rendered completely meaningless.

One point that seems inescapable to me is the fact that Trump's campaign slogan was "Make America Great Again." And one of his first acts as president was to ban people from a list of predominantly Muslim countries from entering the U.S. Thus, banning Muslims is the way to "Make America Great Again."

I'm not saying Trump is racist, but...



he might be a racist.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 21, 2017, 12:50:27 AM
White Nationalist Richard Spencer’s Supporters Charged in Post-Speech Shooting (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/white-nationalist-richard-spencer-s-supporters-charged-post-speech-shooting-n812751)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 22, 2017, 03:43:43 AM
The History of Russian Involvement in America's Race Wars (https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/russia-facebook-race/542796/?utm_source=atltw)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 23, 2017, 08:58:35 PM
Middle school students used Snapchat to pretend to rape black classmates in the locker room — and it shows a dangerous trend (http://www.businessinsider.com/virginia-students-simulate-rape-on-snapchat)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on October 24, 2017, 07:54:42 AM
Congresswoman Wilson’s Office Overwhelmed By Lynching Threats After Trump’s Repeated Attacks (https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/congresswoman-wilsons-office-overwhelmed-lynching-threats-trumps-repeated-attacks/)

(https://static-eu-central-1.theguardiansofdemocracy.com/uploads/2017/10/lynching.jpg)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 24, 2017, 07:36:23 PM
Very sad.  And these guys don't even care that Trump could have been smarter and avoided the whole thing.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 24, 2017, 09:21:46 PM
Trump could have been smarter

Lois, how long have you been watching this guy?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 24, 2017, 11:28:21 PM
What makes President Trump casually dismiss black pain? White rage. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/10/24/what-makes-president-trump-casually-dismiss-black-pain-white-rage/?utm_term=.3e67f1114469)

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White anger is the dark matter of the La David Johnson story. Ostensibly, that rage doesn’t appear to be why President Trump has spent a week disrespecting grieving black women, specifically Johnson’s widow, Myeshia Johnson, and Rep. Frederica S. Wilson (D-Fla.), the congresswoman whom she considers to be like family. But while we can’t see it in the daily news coverage, we see its effects: White rage’s gravity is warping not only what should be a solemn, yet perfunctory, duty for a president but also pulling whiteness back to the center of a story that should be about only a young black widow and her two children, with a third on the way.

We’ve been talking too much about white people and their anger since Trump started running for president, really. The white resentment that unmasked itself during the Obama era, sparked by the tea party and Trump’s birther crusade, had been pretty obvious even before the predominantly white media devoted legions of stories to it over the past couple of years in a fit of “Hillbilly Elegy” curiosity. It seemed apparent to people of color that this was the mysterious malady that caused people to support Trump; the press, in the manner of Christopher Columbus, would eventually discover it, too. Much less energy was devoted to, say, examining black anger about racial injustice and other issues. That’s partly why the president was able to get so many (mostly white) Americans to believe the fiction that kneeling athletes were Betsy Ross blasphemers. Those attitudes give Trump license to make targets of outspoken sports commentators and various members of Congress — especially if they’re women of color, his favorite opponents. The act of not believing black folks or performing confusion about our anger has social currency as well, since it makes it look as though we are all crying wolf. Even when we’re talking about a pregnant military widow, perhaps the most sympathetic character in the entire American story.

I don’t seek to invalidate the animus of Trump voters, much as it is often directed unfairly at people who look like me. What I want is to decenter white cultural rage. There are additional, and more justified, reasons to be angry in America — such as the president calling you a liar right after you’ve buried your soldier husband, killed in action for reasons yet to be determined.

Sgt. La David Johnson was one of four Army soldiers who died on Oct. 4 in Niger, reportedly the victims of an Islamic State ambush. I qualify that a bit only because the Pentagon doesn’t seem to know why these men died — especially Johnson, who was separated from the rest and not found for 48 hours after the initial attack. Myeshia Johnson was not allowed to see any part of her husband’s body, and Saturday’s funeral was closed-casket. There are very serious questions for the Trump administration to answer here. That’s even before we consider how badly Trump later treated her during his condolence call, apparently not remembering La David Johnson’s name and telling her callously that “he knew what he signed up for.”

On Monday morning, Myeshia Johnson went on the record. Recounting what the president said, the widow told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that “it made me cry cause I was very angry at the tone of his voice and how he said he couldn’t remember my husband’s name.” She also confirmed the damning account that both Wilson and La David Johnson’s custodial mother, Cowanda Jones-Johnson, had given of the phone conversation she had with the president. “Whatever Ms. Wilson said was not fabricated,” she said during an interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America.” “What she said was 100 percent correct. It was Master Sgt. Neil, me, my aunt, my uncle and the driver and Ms. Wilson in the car, the phone was on speakerphone. Why would we fabricate something like that?”

Trump, as if by instinct, retorted with a tweet indicating that she had lied: “I had a very respectful conversation with the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson, and spoke his name from beginning, without hesitation!” It isn’t as if we couldn’t see this coming, what with candidate Trump’s vilification of another Gold Star family of color last summer, something that may have actually gained him fans.

It is also the latest chapter in America’s long history of mistreating African American military veterans, alive or dead. As Peter C. Baker noted in November in the New Yorker, the Equal Justice Institute in Alabama released a report about lynching shortly after the election that indicated that “no one was more at risk of experiencing violence and targeted racial terror than black veterans” of America’s wars in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Baker wrote that those veterans, returning home from fighting overseas, understandably felt more of an entitlement to equal treatment under the law, and the lynchings were intended to disabuse them of that notion.

Lynching was the most violent form of racial denigration in that era. But racial denigration, that act by which bigots strip any respectability or humanity away from black folks to reinforce their false racial hierarchy, has never gone away. And Trump has such a gift for it that he used it to win the White House. He was elected by a swell of bigotry, and so he serves his masters with aplomb. It may be the only consistent thing he does.

While he didn’t break out a noose for the Johnsons or Wilson, he did sic his dogs on them through his continued insistence that they are lying. Already, an Illinois man is being investigated for a Facebook post threatening to lynch Wilson. Knowing that his base either is racist or willing to vote in a man who would metastasize white supremacy, Trump felt secure putting a black Gold Star family in the crosshairs to escape accountability.

Asked toward the end of the interview Monday whether she had anything to say to the president, Myeshia Johnson said, “No,” then paused a bit before adding, “I don’t have nothing to say to him.” You should watch it in its entirety, if for no other reason than to see this moment. Her anger and hurt was palpable throughout the interview, but perhaps none more so than right then. You’ll see a woman who clearly can’t believe that she has to deal with this nonsense.

These are surely the worst days of her life. But rather than talking purely about her husband and any righteous rage she may have over the circumstances of his death, she has to talk about Trump and what he is doing to her. She may even be screaming inside over the fact that this maddening episode will always be a part of La David Johnson’s story. The president could’ve prevented that by trying to act like a human being for the five minutes it took to make that call, but alas.

While we don’t yet understand why La David Johnson was left behind to die, we understand why his family has been treated like trash. A fallen soldier’s family is being forced to make space for the president’s petty grievances in their time of bereavement, all because, even at an unconscious level, America accepts white anger. Even when viewed as wrong, it is at least tolerated more than the fury of black folks. This has been a long con by conservatives, dating back to before the birth of the Southern Strategy after Jim Crow, and it is paying out for them now.

The president knows that white resentment is a perfect fit for his pugnacious politics, so he can continue reflexively picking fights that wiser men ignore. He has cover from his acolytic base, who see the disrespect and hatred they have nurtured for so long exploding into presidential action. What appear to be confounding, unforced errors borne of his inherent cruelty are also chunks of red meat for his base. The satisfaction that Trump derives from feeding them clearly matters more to him than the outrage of a black war widow. If that’s disturbing, consider that it makes some political sense for him to behave like this. Whose fault is that?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 24, 2017, 11:29:07 PM
The Military Has a Serious White Nationalist Problem (https://splinternews.com/the-military-has-a-serious-white-nationalist-problem-1819800897)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 26, 2017, 03:28:44 AM
John Kelly’s Lies About Frederica Wilson Are Part of a Pattern of Not Believing Black Women (https://theintercept.com/2017/10/21/john-kelly-trump-black-women-frederica-wilson-myeshia-johnson/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 26, 2017, 03:29:16 AM
Palos Township cancels another meeting after being unable to accommodate protesters (http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/daily-southtown/news/ct-sta-palos-township-cancels-meeting-st-1025-20171024-story.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 26, 2017, 03:29:50 AM
Pro-Trump waiter refuses to serve Oakland A's player who knelt during anthem (http://m.sfgate.com/sports/article/Bruce-Maxwell-As-refused-service-pro-Trump-waiter-12301729.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 26, 2017, 06:02:42 AM
The Military Has a Serious White Nationalist Problem (https://splinternews.com/the-military-has-a-serious-white-nationalist-problem-1819800897)

#Resist
This is a great concern.  One fellow I know served in the Marines.  He now preaches of the coming race war.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 27, 2017, 09:58:58 PM
What’s Trump’s Problem With Black Women?
I left the GOP because of how the party treats women of color. But I’ve never seen anything like this.
By SOPHIA NELSON October 26, 2017

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/26/trump-black-women-gop-215751



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 28, 2017, 02:42:51 AM
Rep. Frederica Wilson skips votes in Washington as she faces ‘racist and rude’ threats (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/10/26/rep-frederica-wilson-not-in-washington-as-she-faces-racist-and-rude-threats/?undefined=&utm_term=.4ee253309cb3&wpisrc=nl_politics&wpmm=1)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 28, 2017, 02:43:28 AM
After I Adopted Two Black Babies, I Realized My Church Was Full Of Racists (https://splinternews.com/after-i-adopted-two-black-babies-i-realized-my-church-1819912747)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on October 29, 2017, 12:06:27 AM
This brings me a bit of hope:

Murfreesboro rally canceled as counterprotesters outnumber White Lives Matter activists

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2017/10/28/white-lives-matter-rally-murfreesboro-tn-live-updates-shelbyville-tn-stream-video/804380001/


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 29, 2017, 09:08:43 AM
Left unsaid, especially in the headlines, is VIOLENT counterprotesters, as the reason so many police are required, and whatever rally aspect that was paid for with permits and detailed arrangements, is left to go wanting, and somehow this is a good thing.

Not saying every 'rally' is a 'good thing' but using force with consent of the general public to disrupt is not a good thing... was not when Bull Connors did it with firehoses, and is not right today either. Thuggish behavior by anyone is not a good thing, not something to aspire to, nor to reward in any manner.

This brings me a bit of hope:

Murfreesboro rally canceled as counterprotesters outnumber White Lives Matter activists

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2017/10/28/white-lives-matter-rally-murfreesboro-tn-live-updates-shelbyville-tn-stream-video/804380001/


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on October 29, 2017, 09:22:02 AM
Left unsaid, especially in the headlines, is VIOLENT counterprotesters, as the reason so many police are required, and whatever rally aspect that was paid for with permits and detailed arrangements, is left to go wanting, and somehow this is a good thing.

Not saying every 'rally' is a 'good thing' but using force with consent of the general public to disrupt is not a good thing... was not when Bull Connors did it with firehoses, and is not right today either. Thuggish behavior by anyone is not a good thing, not something to aspire to, nor to reward in any manner.

This brings me a bit of hope:


Murfreesboro rally canceled as counterprotesters outnumber White Lives Matter activists

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2017/10/28/white-lives-matter-rally-murfreesboro-tn-live-updates-shelbyville-tn-stream-video/804380001/

Joan, I have no idea what you're dressing up as for Halloween, but I'm gonna guess it involves a red rubber nose and really big shoes.

Pictures would be nice.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 29, 2017, 01:32:32 PM
This is my surprised face that joan1984 supports Nazis.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on October 29, 2017, 04:17:37 PM
This is my surprised face that joan1984 supports Nazis.

#Resist


(https://pics.me.me/nice-people-made-the-best-nazis-my-mom-grew-up-13296660.png)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 29, 2017, 07:02:28 PM
Congresswoman Wilson’s Office Overwhelmed By Lynching Threats After Trump’s Repeated Attacks (https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/congresswoman-wilsons-office-overwhelmed-lynching-threats-trumps-repeated-attacks/)

(https://static-eu-central-1.theguardiansofdemocracy.com/uploads/2017/10/lynching.jpg)

This is incredibly shameful, and not a peep from Joan condemning such threats.

Instead she goes on about "violent" protests that aren't violent, and defending white supremacists that have already killed one protester and tried to kill others.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 30, 2017, 12:41:34 AM
Almost Every Houston Texan Takes A Knee During Anthem Following Owner's "Inmates" Remark (https://deadspin.com/almost-every-houston-texan-takes-a-knee-following-owner-1819955226)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on October 30, 2017, 02:46:40 AM
Almost Every Houston Texan Takes A Knee During Anthem Following Owner's "Inmates" Remark (https://deadspin.com/almost-every-houston-texan-takes-a-knee-following-owner-1819955226)

#Resist

Good for them.  #Resist

(https://i.imgur.com/DCH9NDr.jpg)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 30, 2017, 03:30:10 AM
Officials who walked off field at N.J. football game made racist comments on social media (http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/article/3958256358151300786/officials-who-walked-off-field-at-nj-football-game-made-racist-comments-on-social-media/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 30, 2017, 03:42:06 AM
Left unsaid, especially in the headlines, is VIOLENT counterprotesters, as the reason so many police are required, and whatever rally aspect that was paid for with permits and detailed arrangements, is left to go wanting, and somehow this is a good thing.

Hey racist, got a response?

‘White Lives Matter’ Mob Attacks Interracial Couple After Tennessee Rally (https://splinternews.com/white-lives-matter-mob-attacks-interracial-couple-aft-1819954832)

Of course you don't.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 30, 2017, 04:28:30 PM
Joan can say the protesters are violent all she wants, but it's the people they are protesting that are proving they are violent every day.  That's why they are being protested against!


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 02, 2017, 01:52:03 AM
Disgusting University of Hartford Freshman Expelled After Being Accused of Rubbing Used Tampons on Black Roommate’s Bag, Contaminating Her Living Space (https://www.theroot.com/disgusting-university-of-hartford-freshman-who-rubbed-u-1820036536)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 02, 2017, 03:51:05 AM
Police chief accused of racially-motivated beating of handcuffed black teen (http://www.nj.com/burlington/index.ssf/2017/11/nj_police_chief_with_history_of_using_racial_slurs.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 02, 2017, 04:44:48 AM
Uber and Lyft ban far-right activist who complained about Muslim Uber drivers (http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-bans-laura-loomer-far-right-activist-who-tweeted-2017-11)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on November 02, 2017, 04:50:28 PM
Retweeted OhNoSheTwitnt
@OhNoSheTwitnt

[brown man drives car into crowd]
Trump: Terrorist! Death penalty!

[white man drives car into crowd]
Trump: Fine people on both sides.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 02, 2017, 05:33:00 PM
Yeah, she's a must-follow.

#Resist

P.S. I wish we could embed tweets.  Using the snipping tool can be a pain sometimes.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 04, 2017, 04:09:46 AM
Trump’s ‘Pocahontas’ jab at Elizabeth Warren draws the ire of Native Americans (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/03/trumps-pocahontas-jab-at-elizabeth-warren-draws-the-ire-of-native-americans/?utm_term=.a54672fc061c)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on November 04, 2017, 04:34:37 AM
Mocking someone for having native American ancestry sounds like white supremacy to me. It is most shameful that a President of the United States would engage in such offensive and petty name calling.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on November 04, 2017, 04:36:47 AM
What do expect from Trump? Decency?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 04, 2017, 04:54:39 AM
Someone around here keeps claiming Trump isn't racist yet he keeps doing things like this.

I'm confused.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 04, 2017, 09:55:47 PM
MORRISSEY: NFL is paying the price for selling patriotism (https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/nfl-anthem-kaepernick-patriotism-mcnair/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 04, 2017, 10:28:54 PM
ALT-RIGHT WHITE SUPREMACISTS CLAIM PAPA JOHN'S AS OFFICIAL PIZZA (http://www.newsweek.com/papa-john-alt-right-nazis-white-supremacists-nfl-pizza-701648)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on November 05, 2017, 12:30:50 AM
ALT-RIGHT WHITE SUPREMACISTS CLAIM PAPA JOHN'S AS OFFICIAL PIZZA (http://www.newsweek.com/papa-john-alt-right-nazis-white-supremacists-nfl-pizza-701648)

#Resist

In an email to the Huffington Post, Papa John’s also said it condemns racism in all forms.  “We do not want these individuals or groups to buy our pizza,” the company said in a statement.  This is every business owner's worst nightmare.  The Stormer names you official [anything] of the Alt-Right."  It's a publicly traded NASDQ company that's lost about 25% of its value since August.  Unfair to punish shareholders for this.  IMHO.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on November 05, 2017, 01:43:16 AM
Mocking a person for claiming falsely Native American ancestry.

Trading on that lie to gain hiring advantage and status advantage among Educational peers is low life behavior, if not illegal, unfair to peers.

Being called on it is chump change compared to the shunning that should have happened, but is ignored by Democrats/Media.

Again, I am being redundant.

Mocking someone for having native American ancestry sounds like white supremacy to me. It is most shameful that a President of the United States would engage in such offensive and petty name calling.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 05, 2017, 01:52:39 AM
Mocking a person for claiming falsely Native American ancestry.

Trading on that lie to gain hiring advantage and status advantage among Educational peers is low life behavior, if not illegal, unfair to peers.

Being called on it is chump change compared to the shunning that should have happened, but is ignored by Democrats/Media.

Again, I am being redundant.

I notice you completely avoid the fact Trump is using a racist slur.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 05, 2017, 01:02:01 AM
ALT-RIGHT WHITE SUPREMACISTS CLAIM PAPA JOHN'S AS OFFICIAL PIZZA (http://www.newsweek.com/papa-john-alt-right-nazis-white-supremacists-nfl-pizza-701648)

#Resist

In an email to the Huffington Post, Papa John’s also said it condemns racism in all forms.  “We do not want these individuals or groups to buy our pizza,” the company said in a statement.  This is every business owner's worst nightmare.  The Stormer names you official [anything] of the Alt-Right."  It's a publicly traded NASDQ company that's lost about 25% of its value since August.  Unfair to punish shareholders for this.  IMHO.

The thing is, Schnatter is attacking free speech.  He's also attacked the ACA.  He makes comments, his stock takes a nosedive.  His fault.

Jerry Jones is also a big shareholder in that business.

Fuck those guys.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on November 05, 2017, 01:52:25 AM
Mocking a person for claiming falsely Native American ancestry.

Trading on that lie to gain hiring advantage and status advantage among Educational peers is low life behavior, if not illegal, unfair to peers.

Being called on it is chump change compared to the shunning that should have happened, but is ignored by Democrats/Media.

Again, I am being redundant.

Mocking someone for having native American ancestry sounds like white supremacy to me. It is most shameful that a President of the United States would engage in such offensive and petty name calling.

Prove this claim was false.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 07, 2017, 12:16:26 AM
We Have a Winner for 'Most Racist Attempt to Win Votes in New York's Mayoral Race' (https://splinternews.com/we-have-a-winner-for-most-racist-attempt-to-win-votes-i-1820180875)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 07, 2017, 12:17:36 AM
Florida College Students Who Posted Racist Video Mocking Black Lives Matter Won't Be Punished (https://splinternews.com/florida-college-students-who-posted-racist-video-mockin-1820176177)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 08, 2017, 08:01:24 PM
The Politico Goes On A Cletus Safari, Finds Two Angry NFL Fans Willing To Say What They Mean (https://deadspin.com/the-politico-goes-on-a-cletus-safari-finds-two-angry-n-1820254886)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 09, 2017, 05:24:20 PM
A Year in the Violent Rise of White Supremacy (https://splinternews.com/a-year-in-the-violent-rise-of-white-supremacy-1820228586)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 14, 2017, 01:48:13 AM
Hate crimes rose for 2nd year in a row in 2016, FBI reports (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/hate-crimes-rose-for-2nd-year-in-a-row-in-2016-fbi-reports/2017/11/13/11338c78-c891-11e7-b506-8a10ed11ecf5_story.html?utm_term=.d7f74fbc6520)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 20, 2017, 12:08:11 AM
Does not mean President Trump is a racist. He is not a racist, never has been and I don't expect he will be. Calling him racist is wrong. Ignoring the calling of racist when it is clearly wrong, the slandering of our President that way, is also wrong.

In 1927, Donald Trump’s father was arrested after a Klan riot in Queens (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/28/in-1927-donald-trumps-father-was-arrested-after-a-klan-riot-in-queens/?utm_term=.6a3811702d1e)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on November 20, 2017, 12:54:45 AM
Does not mean President Trump is a racist. He is not a racist, never has been and I don't expect he will be. Calling him racist is wrong. Ignoring the calling of racist when it is clearly wrong, the slandering of our President that way, is also wrong.

In 1927, Donald Trump’s father was arrested after a Klan riot in Queens (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/28/in-1927-donald-trumps-father-was-arrested-after-a-klan-riot-in-queens/?utm_term=.6a3811702d1e)

#Resist

https://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-father-kkk-1927/


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 20, 2017, 01:09:13 AM
Given his son's actions, I am not willing to give the father a pass.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on November 20, 2017, 01:32:26 AM
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and flies like a duck, it’s a duck.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on November 20, 2017, 06:49:46 AM
Does not mean President Trump is a racist. He is not a racist, never has been and I don't expect he will be. Calling him racist is wrong. Ignoring the calling of racist when it is clearly wrong, the slandering of our President that way, is also wrong.

In 1927, Donald Trump’s father was arrested after a Klan riot in Queens (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/28/in-1927-donald-trumps-father-was-arrested-after-a-klan-riot-in-queens/?utm_term=.6a3811702d1e)

#Resist

https://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-father-kkk-1927/

I'd like to know if Fred Trump attended the NAZI rallies held at Madison Square Garden just prior to the war. J. Edgar Hoover would have had notes on who attended.  Anyone have time for a Freedom of Information Act request?

Personally I would not be surprised if old Fred was a NAZI.  Trump had to get his ideas about his "superior genetics" from someone.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 21, 2017, 02:56:42 AM
Victim in racial bias case involving ex-police chief in South Jersey tells of harrowing encounter (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new_jersey/victim-in-racial-bias-case-involving-ex-police-chief-in-south-jersey-tells-of-harrowing-encounter-20171118.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 21, 2017, 01:49:46 PM
The president attacked her son. So Marshawn Lynch’s mother fired back. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/11/20/the-president-attacked-her-son-so-marshawn-lynchs-mother-fired-back/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.a7485843605b)

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Delisa Lynch, who goes by @MommaLynch24 on Twitter, quickly jumped into the fray with a retort of her own.

“What NFL team do Trump own?” she fired off, citing the president’s tweet. “Oh yeah they wouldn’t let him have one!”

Lynch appeared to be referring to Trump’s long and stormy relationship with the NFL. The president bought a United State Football League team in 1983 for a fraction of the price of an NFL franchise, but never purchased an NFL team, getting outbid in 2014.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 21, 2017, 05:32:35 PM
The Nationalist's Delusion (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-nationalists-delusion/546356/?utm_source=atltw)

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The specific dissonance of Trumpism—advocacy for discriminatory, even cruel, policies combined with vehement denials that such policies are racially motivated—provides the emotional core of its appeal. It is the most recent manifestation of a contradiction as old as the United States, a society founded by slaveholders on the principle that all men are created equal.

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He made a farce of his populist campaign by putting bankers in charge of the economy and industry insiders at the head of the federal agencies established to regulate their businesses. But other campaign promises have been more faithfully enacted: his ban on travelers from Muslim-majority countries; the unleashing of immigration-enforcement agencies against anyone in the country illegally regardless of whether he poses a danger; an attempt to cut legal immigration in half; and an abdication of the Justice Department’s constitutional responsibility to protect black Americans from corrupt or abusive police, discriminatory financial practices, and voter suppression. In his own stumbling manner, Trump has pursued the race-based agenda promoted during his campaign. As the president continues to pursue a program that places the social and political hegemony of white Christians at its core, his supporters have shown few signs of abandoning him.

One hundred thirty-nine years since Reconstruction, and half a century since the tail end of the civil-rights movement, a majority of white voters backed a candidate who explicitly pledged to use the power of the state against people of color and religious minorities, and stood by him as that pledge has been among the few to survive the first year of his presidency. Their support was enough to win the White House, and has solidified a return to a politics of white identity that has been one of the most destructive forces in American history. This all occurred before the eyes of a disbelieving press and political class, who plunged into fierce denial about how and why this had happened. That is the story of the 2016 election.

One of the first mentions of Trump in The New York Times was in 1973, as a result of a federal discrimination lawsuit against his buildings over his company’s refusal to rent to black tenants. In 1989, he took out a full-page newspaper ad suggesting that the Central Park Five, black and Latino youths accused of the assault and rape of a white jogger, should be put to death. They were later exonerated. His rise to prominence in Republican politics was first fueled by his embrace of the conspiracy theory that the first black president of the United States was not an American citizen. “I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding,” he said in 2011. “If he wasn't born in this country, which is a real possibility ... then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics.”

Trump began his candidacy with a speech announcing that undocumented immigrants from Mexico were “bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.” And “some,” he said, were “good people.” To keep them out, he proposed building a wall and humiliating Mexico for its citizens’ transgressions by forcing their government to pay for it. He vowed to ban Muslims from entering the United States. Amid heightened attention to fatal police shootings of unarmed black people and a subsequent cry for accountability, Trump decried a “war on police” while telling black Americans they lived in “war zones,” in communities that were in “the worst shape they’ve ever been in”—a remarkable claim to make in a country that once subjected black people to chattel slavery and Jim Crow. He promised to institute a national “stop and frisk” policy, a police tactic that turns black and Latino Americans into criminal suspects in their own neighborhoods, and which had recently been struck down in his native New York as unconstitutional.

Trump expanded on this vision in his 2016 Republican National Convention speech, which gestured toward the suffering of nonwhites and painted a dark portrait of an America under assault by people of color through crime, immigration, and competition for jobs. Trump promised, “The crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end,” citing “the president’s hometown of Chicago.” He warned that “180,000 illegal immigrants with criminal records, ordered deported from our country, are tonight roaming free to threaten peaceful citizens,” and said that Clinton was “calling for a radical 550-percent increase in Syrian refugees on top of existing massive refugee flows coming into our country under President Obama.

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The plain meaning of Trumpism exists in tandem with denials of its implications; supporters and opponents alike understand that the president’s policies and rhetoric target religious and ethnic minorities, and behave accordingly. But both supporters and opponents usually stop short of calling these policies racist. It is as if there were a pothole in the middle of the street that every driver studiously avoided, but that most insisted did not exist even as they swerved around it.

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One measure of the allure of Trump’s white identity politics is the extent to which it has overridden other concerns as his administration has faltered.The president’s supporters have stood by him even as he has evinced every quality they described as a deal breaker under Obama. Conservatives attacked Obama’s lack of faith; Trump is a thrice-married libertine who has never asked God for forgiveness. They accused Obama of being under malign foreign influence; Trump eagerly accepted the aid of a foreign adversary during the election. They accused Obama of genuflecting before Russian President Vladimir Putin; Trump has refused to even criticize Putin publicly. They attacked Obama for his ties to Tony Rezko, the crooked realtor; Trump’s ties to organized crime are too numerous to name. Conservatives said Obama was lazy; Trump “gets bored and likes to watch TV.” They said Obama’s golfing was excessive; as of August Trump had spent nearly a fifth of his presidency golfing. They attributed Obama’s intellectual prowess to his teleprompter; Trump seems unable to describe the basics of any of his own policies. They said Obama was a self-obsessed egomaniac; Trump is unable to broach topics of public concern without boasting. Conservatives said Obama quietly used the power of the state to attack his enemies; Trump has publicly attempted to use the power of the state to attack his enemies. Republicans said Obama was racially divisive; Trump has called Nazis “very fine people.” Conservatives portrayed Obama as a vapid celebrity; Trump is a vapid celebrity.

There is virtually no personality defect that conservatives accused Obama of possessing that Trump himself does not actually possess. This, not some uncanny oracular talent, is the reason that Trump’s years-old tweets channeling conservative anger at Obama apply so perfectly to his own present conduct.

Trump’s great political insight was that Obama’s time in office inflicted a profound psychological wound on many white Americans, one that he could remedy by adopting the false narrative that placed the first black president outside the bounds of American citizenship. He intuited that Obama’s presence in the White House decreased the value of what W. E. B. Du Bois described as the “psychological wage” of whiteness across all classes of white Americans, and that the path to their hearts lay in invoking a bygone past when this affront had not, and could not, take place.

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When you look at Trump’s strength among white Americans of all income categories, but his weakness among Americans struggling with poverty, the story of Trump looks less like a story of working-class revolt than a story of white backlash. And the stories of struggling white Trump supporters look less like the whole truth than a convenient narrative—one that obscures the racist nature of that backlash, instead casting it as a rebellion against an unfeeling establishment that somehow includes working-class and poor people who happen not to be white.

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The defenses of Trump voters against Clinton’s charge share in commo an aversion to acknowledging an unpleasant truth. They are not so much arguments against a proposition as arguments that the proposition is offensive—or, if you prefer, politically incorrect. The same is true of the rejoinder that Democrats cannot hope to win the votes of people they have condemned as racist. This is not a refutation of the point, but an argument against stating it so plainly.

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From a different vantage point, what Trump’s supporters refer to as political correctness is largely the result of marginalized communities gaining sufficient political power to project their prerogatives onto society at large. What a society finds offensive is not a function of fact or truth, but of power. It is why unpunished murders of black Americans by agents of the state draw less outrage than black football players’ kneeling for the National Anthem in protest against them. It is no coincidence that Trump himself frequently uses the term to belittle what he sees as unnecessary restrictions on state force.

But even as once-acceptable forms of bigotry have become unacceptable to express overtly, white Americans remain politically dominant enough to shape media coverage in a manner that minimizes obvious manifestations of prejudice, such as backing a racist candidate, as something else entirely. The most transgressive political statement of the 2016 election, the one that violated strict societal norms by stating an inconvenient fact that few wanted to acknowledge, the most politically incorrect, was made by the candidate who lost.

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Even before trump, the Republican Party was moving toward an exclusivist nationalism that defined American identity in racial and religious terms, despite some efforts from its leadership to steer it in another direction. George W. Bush signed the 2006 reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, attempted to bring Latino voters into the party, and spoke in defense of American Muslims’ place in the national fabric. These efforts led to caustic backlashes from the Republican rank and file, who defeated his 2006 immigration-reform legislation, which might have shifted the demographics of the Republican Party for a generation or more. In the aftermath of their 2012 loss, Republican leaders tried again, only to meet with the same anti-immigrant backlash—one that would find an avatar in the person of the next Republican president.

In 2015, the political scientists Marisa Abrajano and Zoltan L. Hajnal published White Backlash, a study of political trends, and found that “whites who hold more negative views of immigrants have a greater tendency to support Republican candidates at the presidential, congressional, and gubernatorial levels, even after controlling for party identification and other major factors purported to drive the vote.”

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“Birtherism was the beginning, it was a way of tying together his foreignness and his name, in an effort to delegitimize him, from the get-go,” says James Zogby, a Democrat whose Arab American Institute has spent years tracking public opinion on Muslim and Arab Americans. By 2012, the very idea of Muslims in public service “had become an issue in presidential politics, with five of the Republican candidates saying they wouldn't hire a Muslim or appoint one, without special loyalty oaths.”

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“I think you can draw a straight line between Obama and heightened racialization, and the emergence of Trump,” Tesler told me. “Birtherism, the idea that Obama's a Muslim, anti-Muslim sentiments—these are very strong components of Trump's rise, and really what makes him popular with this crew in the first place.”

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Birtherism is rightly remembered as a racist conspiracy theory, born of an inability to accept the legitimacy of the first black president. But it is more than that, and the insistence that it was a fringe belief undersells the fact that it was one of the most important political developments of the past decade.

Birtherism is a synthesis of the prejudice toward blacks, immigrants, and Muslims that swelled on the right during the Obama era: Obama was not merely black but also a foreigner, not just black and foreign but also a secret Muslim. Birtherism was not simply racism, but nationalism—a statement of values and a definition of who belongs in America. By embracing the conspiracy theory of Obama’s faith and foreign birth, Trump was also endorsing a definition of being American that excluded the first black president. Birtherism, and then Trumpism, united all three rising strains of prejudice on the right in opposition to the man who had become the sum of their fears.

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Trumpism emerged from a haze of delusion, denial, pride and cruelty—not as a historical anomaly, but as a profoundly American phenomenon. This explains both how tens of millions of white Americans could pull the lever for a candidate running on a racist platform and justify doing so, and why a predominantly white political class would search so desperately for an alternative explanation for what it had just seen. To acknowledge the centrality of racial inequality to American democracy is to question its legitimacy—so it must be denied.

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Nevertheless, a majority of white voters backed a candidate who assured them that they will never have to share this country with people of color as equals. That is the reality that all Americans will have to deal with, and one that most of the country has yet to confront.

Yet at its core, white nationalism has and always will be a hustle, a con, a fraud that cannot deliver the broad-based prosperity it promises, not even to most white people. Perhaps the most persuasive argument against Trumpist nationalism is not one its opponents can make in a way that his supporters will believe. But the failure of Trump’s promises to white America may yet show that both the fruit and the tree are poison.

Donald J. Trump is a racist.

The United States of America by and large is racist.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 21, 2017, 05:53:22 PM
Donald Trump’s Twitter attacks on athletes are falling into a predictable, sinister pattern (https://www.sbnation.com/2017/11/21/16684204/donald-trump-twitter-attack-marshawn-lynch-lavar-ball)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on November 21, 2017, 05:54:18 PM


The United States of America by and large is racist.

[/quote]

That pretty much sums it up.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on November 21, 2017, 06:15:49 PM


The United States of America by and large is racist.


That pretty much sums it up.
[/quote]

Well...large parts of it are, but I'd guess it's still less than half.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 22, 2017, 06:40:54 PM
Reading Rainbow’s LeVar Burton bombarded with tweets from angry Trump fans who think he’s LaVar Ball (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/reading-rainbows-levar-burton-bombarded-with-tweets-from-angry-trump-fans-who-think-hes-lavar-ball/#.WhW1ADD4Vhk.twitter)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on November 22, 2017, 06:44:49 PM
Stupidity is its own worst enemy.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 23, 2017, 06:42:25 PM
Trump just rage-tweeted about a prominent African American again (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/11/22/trump-just-rage-tweeted-about-a-prominent-african-american-again/?utm_term=.0fd920f0ce77)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 23, 2017, 06:43:06 PM
Why Is Donald Trump So Obsessed With LaVar Ball? (https://theintercept.com/2017/11/23/donald-trump-lavar-ball-ucla-china/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on November 23, 2017, 09:51:47 PM
I just heard from a friend visiting Puerto Rico for the Holidays.  There is no food in the grocery stores, and certainly no turkeys.  There is also little drinkable water or electricity.  The Hospitals are still barely functioning, yet Trump decided to withdraw the US Navy's hospital ship.  How Puerto Rico is being treated by the Federal Government when compared to mainland areas also ravaged by hurricanes is disgraceful.  I can only suspect racism is once again the culprit.  Trump does not care if Puerto Ricans die.  But he did manage to give an inflated contract to restore power to one of his political cronies.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/23/us/puerto-rico-hurricane-maria-holidays/index.html


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 23, 2017, 10:27:59 PM
Let's hope next election those displaced Puerto Ricans who were forced to move to Florida stick it right up Trump's ass.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 27, 2017, 11:25:09 PM
The Making of an American Nazi (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/the-making-of-an-american-nazi/544119/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 27, 2017, 11:25:47 PM
Detroit Pistons Coach: Athletes Who Protest Are Patriots (http://time.com/5016104/stan-van-gundy-nfl-protests/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 27, 2017, 11:26:33 PM
While honoring Native American veterans, Trump lobs his favorite Native American insult (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/27/while-honoring-native-american-veterans-trump-lobs-his-favorite-native-american-insult/?utm_term=.09994d2643f9)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 28, 2017, 03:36:37 AM
While honoring Native American veterans, Trump lobs his favorite Native American insult (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/27/while-honoring-native-american-veterans-trump-lobs-his-favorite-native-american-insult/?utm_term=.09994d2643f9)

#Resist

I know.  What a fucking buffoon.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 29, 2017, 12:05:58 AM
Trump gets blowback for his ‘Pocahontas’ jab at Navajo event (https://www.apnews.com/2aa45fe6baa4448dbd744993efdfd640/Families-of-Navajo-Code-Talkers-decry-Trump%27s-political-jab?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Politics)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on November 29, 2017, 05:57:11 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEduG0u4KB5NMgJtC/giphy.gif)

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Shortly after World War II, Donald Trump's father Fred falsely claimed their family was Swedish, hiding their German heritage to avoid any problems selling apartments to Jewish customers, the Boston Globe reported last year. Donald Trump was still claiming Swedish heritage as late as his 1987 book "Art of the Deal," in which he writes that his grandfather came to the U.S. from Sweden.

Why it matters: After President Trump called Sen. Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas" at an event honoring Navajo Code Talkers, Press Secretary Sarah Sanders defended him saying, ""I think what most people find offensive is Elizabeth Warren lying about her heritage to advance her career."

https://www.axios.com/trump-faked-his-heritage-just-like-hes-accusing-warren-of-doing-2513043675.html



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 01, 2017, 04:21:40 AM
WHITE HOUSE BARS ONE OF FEW BLACK JOURNALISTS FROM ATTENDING CHRISTMAS PARTY (http://www.newsweek.com/april-ryan-donald-trump-christmas-sarah-huckabee-sanders-white-house-726364?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 04, 2017, 03:06:27 AM
Trump, Proxy of Racism (https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/opinion/trump-racism-white-supremacy.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 05, 2017, 02:38:11 AM
Iowa Radio Announcers Fired After Decrying Opposing Team's "Español People" [Update] (https://deadspin.com/iowa-radio-announcers-fired-after-decrying-opposing-tea-1820976378)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on December 05, 2017, 02:46:59 AM
So she was not invited? Aww. Is she one who trashes the President on some regular basis? Actions have consequences, seems.

WHITE HOUSE BARS ONE OF FEW BLACK JOURNALISTS FROM ATTENDING CHRISTMAS PARTY (http://www.newsweek.com/april-ryan-donald-trump-christmas-sarah-huckabee-sanders-white-house-726364?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 05, 2017, 02:49:35 AM
Actions have consequences, seems.

You mean like raping a child?  Or supporting a child rapist?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on December 05, 2017, 02:58:08 AM
Which specific Law are you referencing in your blather? I am certain there is no law for which punishment is due, to which you may refer.

Keep beating that dead horse.

Actions have consequences, seems.

You mean like raping a child?  Or supporting a child rapist?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 05, 2017, 03:00:09 AM
Keep beating that dead horse.

Considering you're probably the worst person I've ever crossed paths with, I'll gladly remind everyone you support child rape.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on December 05, 2017, 04:26:06 AM
  No one cares what you feel, or what you think, Assthos.
No one is waiting for your call.

  That should be self evident to you, but you persist in posting near identical rants, and your vote did not count.

  Let us hope it continues not to count in the future.

  Get back on your Meds, puddin'.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 05, 2017, 04:59:20 AM
 No one cares what you feel, or what you think, Assthos.
No one is waiting for your call.

  That should be self evident to you, but you persist in posting near identical rants, and your vote did not count.

  Let us hope it continues not to count in the future.

  Get back on your Meds, puddin'.


It's not my fault you can't find credible sources to back up the lies and unethical behavior you promote and practice.

You're angry I called you a racist child rape supporter.  You should just accept you're a horrible person.


#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on December 05, 2017, 05:08:48 AM
If you support Roy Moore you are supporting a person who has engaged in the sexual assault of a minor.  It is that simple.

If you support Donald Trump you are supporting a person who has engaged in sexual assault. It is that simple.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on December 05, 2017, 05:13:18 AM
Says you? When the charges are brought and answered, and a jury finds these people guilty, we shall have the answers, correct?

Only when Republicans are smeared, is he unanimity so profound. When Senator Al Frankin, who does not deny the claims against him; even Rep. Weiner, all say they may miss him, and would vote for him again, lol, for Mayor of NYC even.

Need I bring up the rest of Democrats who to this day get a full pass?  The list is a long one, including Presidents, Senators, and other politicians.

If you support Roy Moore you are supporting a person who has engaged in the sexual assault of a minor.  It is that simple.

If you support Donald Trump you are supporting a person who has engaged in sexual assault. It is that simple.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 05, 2017, 05:16:29 AM
Says you? When the charges are brought and answered, and a jury finds these people guilty, we shall have the answers, correct?

Only when Republicans are smeared, is he unanimity so profound. When Senator Al Frankin, who does not deny the claims against him; even Rep. Weiner, all say they may miss him, and would vote for him again, lol, for Mayor of NYC even.

Need I bring up the rest of Democrats who to this day get a full pass?  The list is a long one, including Presidents, Senators, and other politicians.

If you support Roy Moore you are supporting a person who has engaged in the sexual assault of a minor.  It is that simple.

If you support Donald Trump you are supporting a person who has engaged in sexual assault. It is that simple.

Whataboutism is not a defense, racist child rape supporter.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on December 05, 2017, 05:19:07 AM
  Take your meds... get to sleep... you know the routine.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 05, 2017, 05:23:28 AM
  Take your meds... get to sleep... you know the routine.

You're really upset, even your grammar is bad now.

 :emot_laughing:

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on December 05, 2017, 03:53:24 PM
Sorry, but equating what Franken did with sexual assault simply does not hold up.  Nothing Franken did would ever cause a person to be arrested.  However, sexually assaulting a 14 year old would certainly have caused the arrest of Roy Moore had it been reported, and this is further aggravated by the fact that Moore used his position as D.A. to silence his victim with a threat.  This is called a crime "under color of law."  This is a crime in and of itself, and shows a willingness to abuse the power of his position.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 05, 2017, 08:27:47 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQTge-rVAAAc-AO.jpg:large)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on December 05, 2017, 11:51:10 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQTge-rVAAAc-AO.jpg:large)

#Resist

I LOL'd.

Call me crazy, but I think he's a Trump supporter. By the way...I attended ACLU, and it's a fine, fine school.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 08, 2017, 01:04:04 AM
San Juan Mayor Explains Why She Couldn't 'Stay Quiet' About Trump's Racism Toward Puerto Rico (https://splinternews.com/san-juan-mayor-explains-why-she-couldnt-stay-quiet-abou-1821089399)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 08, 2017, 01:24:00 AM
Ex-cop Michael Slager sentenced to 20 years for shooting death of Walter Scott (http://abcnews.go.com/US/cop-michael-slager-faces-19-24-years-prison/story?id=51595376)


Of course, Mr. Brown was not shot for having a nonworking taillight.

He gave a jumbled, sometimes conflicting story about the vehicle he was driving, had no paperwork, said he just bought it, then said he had not yet bought it but would do so "on Monday....", and could produce nothing written about the vehicle, registration or insurance.

He seemingly gave his drivers license to the Officer (some reports say he did not have a Drivers license), and the Officer was clearly in the process of checking Mr. Brown's history, and the Vehicle's owner status, or at least about to, when Mr. Brown bolted from the Mercedes and took off running.

The Officer ran after him, and attempted (not on video released to date, but audio from the Officer's microphone indicates) to stop Mr. Brown via use of a Taser. Mr. Brown continued running, with the Officer chasing him, and the Officer fired 8 shots, hitting him with a number of them before Mr. Brown stopped.

How ironic both this suspect and the man in Ferguson were named Brown...

Clearly the Officer used deadly force to stop and apprehend a fleeing suspect. The Officer has not made any statement since the incident, at least none that has been made public. His attorney quit, shortly prior to the Officer being charged and jailed, and his new attorney is reviewing the case prior to making any statement.

Did the Officer suspect the Mercedes was stolen, and the driver was in the midst of Grand Theft Auto... a felony? The suspect was warned to stay in the car, after an initial attempt to exit his vehicle, before he took flight. No alarm was expressed at what the Officer visually saw when he obtained the driver's license... No questions or comments were asked or made by the Passenger in the Mercedes.

Whether indeed Mr. Scott had permission to drive the Mercedes will come out, and likely is now known by Police and Authorities. What Warrants, if any, were on file for Mr. Brown (past due child support has been mentioned by one of his relatives as speculation about why he ran), will eventually be known by us all.

The charge of First Degree Murder seems a bit dramatic to me, and I expect that was the intent at the time the charge and arrest was made, and the Officer jailed. The right of a Police Officer to stop what he believes is a fleeing felon, and he knows is a fleeing suspect who is resisting arrest via flight on foot, who had disregarded direct orders at least twice, has limits, and I expect they were crossed here.

May this South Carolina town escape the circus that became Ferguson, MO.  It is Friday afternoon...


#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on December 08, 2017, 04:55:40 AM
So Joan asserts that he was basically shot and killed because his papers weren't in order?

Wow.  I heard that was a legitimate reason in NAZI Germany, but not the USA.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on December 08, 2017, 12:55:20 PM
Unarmed, fleeing, and shot in the back.

Not a threat.

Yeah, obviously, the Stürmbahnfüher was entitled and obligated to shoot the man.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 09, 2017, 12:39:35 AM
Rep. John Lewis: Trump is an ‘insult’ to civil rights event (https://www.apnews.com/e73a79a01ac14ee48cf228930f874a2f)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 09, 2017, 12:51:30 AM
Roy Moore's incredible 'even though we had slavery' quote (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/08/politics/roy-moore-slavery/index.html)

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In response to a question from one of the only African Americans in the audience — who asked when Moore thought America was last "great" -- Moore acknowledged the nation's history of racial divisions, but said: "I think it was great at the time when families were united — even though we had slavery — they cared for one another.... Our families were strong, our country had a direction."

At the same event, Moore referred to Native Americans and Asian Americans as "reds and yellows," and earlier this year he suggested the September 11 terrorist attacks were divine punishment.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 17, 2017, 04:25:20 AM
‘Trump, Trump, Trump!’ How a President’s Name Became a Racial Jeer (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/trump-racial-jeers.html)

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The high school basketball squad from Eagle Grove, population 3,700, had traveled 60 miles up Highway 69 in Iowa to play the team from Forest City, population 4,100. It would be the Eagles against the Indians, a hardwood competition in the center of the country. For some people, this is as American as it gets.

At one point during the online streaming of the game last month, two white announcers for a Forest City radio station, KIOW, began riffing on the Hispanic names of some players from the mildly more diverse community of Eagle Grove. “They’re all foreigners,” said Orin Harris, a longtime announcer; his partner, Holly Jane Kusserow-Smidt, a board operator at the station who was also a third-grade teacher, answered: “Exactly.”

For some people, this is as American as it gets.

Mr. Harris then uttered a term occasionally used these days as a racially charged taunt, or as a braying assertion that the country is being taken back from forces that threaten it. That term is, simply, the surname of the sitting American president.

“As Trump would say, go back where they came from,” Mr. Harris said.

“Well, some would say that, yeah,” Ms. Kusserow-Smidt said. “Some days I feel like that, too.”

Last year’s contentious presidential election gave oxygen to hate. An analysis of F.B.I. crime data by the Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino, found a 26 percent increase in bias incidents in the last quarter of 2016 — the heart of the election season — compared with the same period the previous year. The trend has continued into 2017, with the latest partial data for the nation’s five most populous cities showing a 12 percent increase.

In addition, anti-Muslim episodes have nearly doubled since 2014, according to Brian Levin, the director of the center, which he said has also counted more “mega rallies” by white nationalists in the last two years than in the previous 20. “I haven’t seen anything like this during my three decades in the field,” he said.

Peppered among these incidents is a phenomenon distinct from the routine racism so familiar in this country: the provocative use of “Trump,” after the man whose comments about Mexicans, Muslims and undocumented immigrants — coupled with his muted responses to white nationalist activity — have proved so inflammatory. His words have also become an accelerant on the playing field of sports, in his public criticism of black athletes he deems to be unpatriotic or ungrateful.

Officials at Salem State University in Massachusetts discovered hateful graffiti spray-painted on benches and a fence surrounding the baseball field, including “Trump #1 Whites Only USA.” An undocumented immigrant in Michigan reported to the police that two assailants had stapled a note bearing a slur to his stomach after telling him, “Trump doesn’t like you.” A white Massachusetts businessman at Kennedy International Airport in New York was charged with assaulting and menacing an airline worker in a hijab, saying, among other threats: “Trump is here now. He will get rid of all of you.”

In an email, the White House on Friday denounced the use of the president’s name in cases like these. “The president condemns violence, bigotry and hatred in all its forms, and finds anyone who might invoke his or any other political figure’s name for such aims to be contemptible,” Raj Shah, a White House spokesman, said.

Still, it persists. Across the country, students have used the president’s name to mock or goad minority opponents at sporting events. In March, white fans at suburban Canton High School in Connecticut shouted “Trump! Trump! Trump!” as players from Hartford’s Classical Magnet School, which is predominantly black and Latino, took foul shots during a basketball playoff game. They also chanted “He’s our president!”

The visiting players and their chaperones interpreted the chants not as a sudden burst of presidential fealty, but rather as a slyly racist mantra intended to rattle. As if Donald J. Trump was the president of here, in white suburbia, and not there, in the diverse inner city.

“I’m not sure what politics has to do with basketball,” Azaria Porter, then the Classical team’s 16-year-old manager, told The Hartford Courant. “It was just annoying. It was like, O.K., we get it.”

For the record, Classical beat Canton.

According to several scholars of American history, the invocation of a president’s name as a jaw-jutting declaration of exclusion, rather than inclusion, appears to be unprecedented. “If you’re hunting for historical analogies, I think you’re in virgin territory,” said Jon Meacham, the author of several books about presidents, including a Pulitzer Prize-winning biography of Andrew Jackson.

Michael Beschloss, a presidential historian, agrees. “If you’re looking at modern presidents, fill in the blank and see if it can be used in the same way,” he said. “You will see it has not. Hoover? Or Eisenhower? Can you imagine a situation like that?”

The jarring use of Mr. Trump’s name began to surface shortly after he declared his candidacy in June 2015. Within a year, educators were reporting incidents in which, as the Inside Higher Ed website put it, “Trump” had become “a kind of taunt, tossed by largely white students at minority opponents during, say, basketball games.”

But it was not confined to high schools like Dallas Center-Grimes in Iowa, where students mocked a basketball team from the more diverse community of Perry with chants of “Trump, Trump, Trump” in February 2016. Colleges and universities were experiencing similar moments.

Nor was it confined to places of learning. In March 2016, for example, video surveillance at a Kwik Shop in Wichita, Kan., showed a white motorcyclist arguing with two college students — one Hispanic, one Muslim — then assaulting one of them before driving off. The victims later said that the man interspersed his racist epithets with: “Trump, Trump, Trump.” (And yes, the name does tend to come in threes, as if the incantation of his name might summon the man himself.)

Shortly after the election, the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate crimes, published a report called “The Trump Effect: The Impact of the 2016 Election on Our Nation’s Schools.” Based on a survey of more than 10,000 educators, it detailed an increase in incidents involving swastikas, Nazi salutes and Confederate flags.

“Kids saying, ‘Trump won, you’re going back to Mexico,’” wrote a teacher from Kansas. “A black student was blocked from entering his classroom by two white students chanting, ‘Trump, Trump,’” wrote a teacher from Tennessee. “Seventh-grade white boys yelling, ‘Heil Trump!’” wrote a teacher from Colorado.

It is a far cry from wearing a button that says “I Like Ike.”

Mr. Beschloss recalled moments in recent American history when, say, the X in President Richard M. Nixon’s name appeared as a swastika, or a caricature of President Lyndon B. Johnson featured a Hitlerian mustache. But these were generally the acts of opponents to those presidents’ policies during the Vietnam War.

“The message here,” Mr. Beschloss said, “is ‘Trump is going to come and get you — and we support that.’”

There have also been cases in which anti-Trump protesters have harassed and assaulted supporters of the president for, say, wearing a “Make America Great Again” cap. In some instances, the name Trump is invoked in punctuation.

When asked how a president’s very name could become so coded, Mr. Beschloss cited Mr. Trump’s speeches and tweets, including two in particular: the announcement of his candidacy in 2015, during which he referred to Mexican immigrants as criminals, drug dealers and rapists; and his equivocating comments after a white supremacist rally and counterprotest in Charlottesville, Va., in June ended with one person killed and 19 wounded. (“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides,” the president had said. “On many sides.”)

“This broadened into a feeling by some people — right or wrong — that Trump is going to be a weapon to reduce the opportunities of those who are different,” Mr. Beschloss said. “This is a signal moment.”

Leah Wright Rigueur, an assistant professor of public policy at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, agreed, saying that Mr. Trump’s status as a racial wedge was of his own doing.

“When Trump says, ‘I hear you, I will represent you,’ he is speaking to a particular cross-section of the nation that does not include Muslims, that does not include people of color,” Ms. Wright Rigueur said.

Khalil Gibran Muhammad, a professor of race, history and public policy also at the Kennedy School of Government, said that Mr. Trump had created his own breakaway brand, making him the personification of specific ideals.

“To use the name as a rallying cry for a kind of embodied white supremacy, white nationalism or sense of triumphalism, for taking back the country, as best as I can tell has never been crystallized in the name of a U.S. president,” Mr. Muhammad said.

“It’s authoritarian, the cult of personality,” Mr. Meacham said. “It’s saying that we’re American — and you’re not.”

The sporadic episodes — as chronicled by ProPublica’s “Documenting Hate” project, among others — continue. A “Heil Trump” here, the Trump name scrawled beside a swastika there. In late September, two high school football teams in the Salt Lake City suburbs were squaring off when cheers erupted. Someone was brandishing a cardboard cutout of Mr. Trump, and there began the chanting of three words that have electrified some and unnerved others: “Build the wall! Build the wall!”

Back in Iowa, there have been consequences and remorse in the wake of those two Forest City radio announcers musing on the Hispanic names of some of the players from Eagle Grove.

Ms. Kusserow-Smidt, 63, was fired as a board operator for the radio station; she has since resigned from the Forest City School District. Mr. Harris, 76, who had been with the station for more than 40 years, was also fired. The two have expressed deep regret for their comments, which they said did not reflect who they truly were.

“It didn’t sound right; it wasn’t right,” Mr. Harris told a local television station. “And I apologize.”

The xenophobic words of the two announcers stung some of the Eagle Grove players, including Nikolas Padilla, whose mother is from Iowa and whose father is from Mexico. Mr. Padilla, a 17-year-old senior, said that he briefly considered quitting because he did not want to be singled out for his Mexican heritage.

One particular comment by the broadcasters — “As Trump would say, go back where they came from” — puzzled Nikolas. His mother, Misty, recalled what her teenage son had said:

“Um, I came from Mason City, Iowa.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on December 20, 2017, 05:36:16 PM
Roy Moore Still Won’t Concede; Begs for Cash to Fund “Voter Integrity Program” (https://www.advocate.com/politics/2017/12/19/roy-moore-still-wont-concede-begs-cash-fund-election-integrity-program)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on December 20, 2017, 08:49:37 PM
Roy Moore Still Won’t Concede; Begs for Cash to Fund “Voter Integrity Program” (https://www.advocate.com/politics/2017/12/19/roy-moore-still-wont-concede-begs-cash-fund-election-integrity-program)

He's just waiting for someone to play him the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=XcYsO890YJY

Say goodnight, judge.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 22, 2017, 01:08:41 AM
A Conservative Nonprofit That Seeks to Transform College Campuses Faces Allegations of Racial Bias and Illegal Campaign Activity (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-conservative-nonprofit-that-seeks-to-transform-college-campuses-faces-allegations-of-racial-bias-and-illegal-campaign-activity)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on December 22, 2017, 01:27:30 AM
Here Are 16 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist (https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_584f2ccae4b0bd9c3dfe5566)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 22, 2017, 01:36:22 AM
Here Are 16 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist (https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_584f2ccae4b0bd9c3dfe5566)

President Trump is not a Racist.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on December 22, 2017, 04:07:46 AM
Here Are 16 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist (https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_584f2ccae4b0bd9c3dfe5566)

President Trump is not a Racist.

#Resist

In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality, as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth. Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality. The forms of denialism present the common feature of the person rejecting overwhelming evidence and the generation of political controversy with attempts to deny the existence of consensus.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on December 22, 2017, 05:22:29 AM
Yep, and that's why the sole black woman in Trump's White House said "Trump's not a racist, he's racial."

WTF?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 22, 2017, 12:37:49 PM
Here Are 16 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist (https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_584f2ccae4b0bd9c3dfe5566)

President Trump is not a Racist.

#Resist

In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality, as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth. Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality. The forms of denialism present the common feature of the person rejecting overwhelming evidence and the generation of political controversy with attempts to deny the existence of consensus.

Considering the person in question has a long history of racist posts I highly doubt that person is avoiding "a psychologically uncomfortable truth."  They embrace it.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on December 22, 2017, 04:25:06 PM
Embracing the conduct, but not the inevitable conclusions to be drawn.  Hence, the denial.

“Making America great again” by “taking it back” from persons of different ethnic or religious backgrounds is insane, as America is a country of immigrants.  Herr Drumpf is only third generation American.  And his family arrived during a blitz of anti-German sentiment, so that he and his father both claimed to be *Swedish* of all fucking things.  So you think he’d have some understanding, but no.

Pathetic.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 23, 2017, 04:00:31 AM
Trump’s ambassador to the Netherlands just got caught lying about the Dutch (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/12/22/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-just-got-caught-lying-about-the-dutch/?utm_term=.b400f09c50f0)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 23, 2017, 04:38:45 PM
Trump praises conservative group one day after report alleging racial bias (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/366163-trump-praises-conservative-group-one-day-after-reports-of)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 24, 2017, 02:19:08 AM
STOKING FEARS, TRUMP DEFIED BUREAUCRACY TO ADVANCE IMMIGRATION AGENDA (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/us/politics/trump-immigration.html?_r=0)

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More than 2,500 were from Afghanistan, a terrorist haven, the president complained.

Haiti had sent 15,000 people. They “all have AIDS,” he grumbled, according to one person who attended the meeting and another person who was briefed about it by a different person who was there.


Forty thousand had come from Nigeria, Mr. Trump added. Once they had seen the United States, they would never “go back to their huts” in Africa, recalled the two officials, who asked for anonymity to discuss a sensitive conversation in the Oval Office.

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In 2014, well before becoming a candidate, he tweeted: “Our government now imports illegal immigrants and deadly diseases. Our leaders are inept.”

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“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity,” Mr. Trump ad-libbed. “They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems,” he continued. “They’re bringing drugs; they’re bringing crime; they’re rapists.”

During his campaign, he pushed a false story about Muslims celebrating in Jersey City as they watched the towers fall after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in New York. He said illegal immigrants were like “vomit” crossing the border. And he made pledges that he clearly could not fulfill.

“We will begin moving them out, Day 1,” he said at a rally in August 2016, adding, “My first hour in office, those people are gone.”

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The announcement of the travel ban on a Friday night, seven days after Mr. Trump’s inauguration, created chaotic scenes at the nation’s largest airports, as hundreds of people were stopped, and set off widespread confusion and loud protests. Lawyers for the government raced to defend the president’s actions against court challenges, while aides struggled to explain the policy to perplexed lawmakers the next night at a black-tie dinner.

White House aides resorted to Google searches and frenzied scans of the United States Code to figure out which countries were affected.

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By early March, judges across the country had blocked his travel ban. Immigrant rights activists were crowing that they had thwarted the new president. Even Mr. Trump’s own lawyers told him he had to give up on defending the ban.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions and lawyers at the White House and Justice Department had decided that waging an uphill legal battle to defend the directive in the Supreme Court would fail. Instead, they wanted to devise a narrower one that could pass legal muster.

The president, though, was furious about what he saw as backing down to politically correct adversaries. He did not want a watered-down version of the travel ban, he yelled at Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, as the issue came to a head on Friday, March 3, in the Oval Office.

It was a familiar moment for Mr. Trump’s advisers. The president did not mind being told “no” in private, and would sometimes relent. But he could not abide a public turnabout, a retreat. At those moments, he often exploded at whoever was nearby.

As Marine One waited on the South Lawn for Mr. Trump to begin his weekend trip to Palm Beach, Fla., Mr. McGahn insisted that administration lawyers had already promised the court that Mr. Trump would issue a new order. There was no alternative, he said.

“This is bullshit,” the president responded.

With nothing resolved, Mr. Trump, furious, left the White House. A senior aide emailed a blunt warning to a colleague waiting aboard Air Force One at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland: “He’s coming in hot.”

Already mad at Mr. Sessions, who the day before had recused himself in the Russia investigation, Mr. Trump refused to take his calls. Aides told Mr. Sessions he would have to fly down to Mar-a-Lago to plead with the president in person to sign the new order.

Over dinner that night with Mr. Sessions and Mr. McGahn, Mr. Trump relented. When he was back in Washington, he signed the new order. It was an indication that he had begun to understand — or at least, begrudgingly accept — the need to follow a process.

Still, one senior adviser later recalled never having seen a president so angry signing anything.

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When he got word that the Office of Refugee Resettlement had drafted a 55-page report showing that refugees were a net positive to the economy, Mr. Miller swiftly intervened, requesting a meeting to discuss it. The study never made it to the White House; it was shelved in favor of a three-page list of all the federal assistance programs that refugees used.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 24, 2017, 03:21:02 PM
A teen is charged with killing his girlfriend’s parents. They had worried he was a neo-Nazi. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/teen-charged-with-killing-girlfriends-parents-they-had-worried-he-was-a-neo-nazi/2017/12/23/e2102894-e761-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html?tid=sm_tw_pl&utm_term=.6e7783a091b6&wprss=rss_crime)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 30, 2017, 08:24:34 PM
FOOTBALL IS OUR ESCAPE FROM POLITICS (https://www.sbnation.com/a/sports-year-in-review-2017/there-is-no-escape-from-politics)

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 01, 2018, 09:55:04 PM
California high school football player can't be forced to stand for national anthem, court rules (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-student-athlete-kneel-20171229-story.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 02, 2018, 05:46:52 PM
Men charged with murdering black man because he 'socialized with a white woman' (http://www.fox5dc.com/news/men-charged-with-murdering-black-man-because-he-socialized-with-a-white-woman)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 07, 2018, 01:20:58 AM
Man With 'Interest in Killing Black People' Charged With Terrorism After Attempted Train Attack (http://time.com/5089950/taylor-michael-wilson-supremacist-amtrak/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 09, 2018, 02:38:37 AM
Kansas lawmaker makes racist comments about African Americans, marijuana (http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article193611759.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 11, 2018, 02:20:05 AM
Ohio Boys Basketball Team Booted For Racist Jerseys (https://deadspin.com/ohio-boys-basketball-team-booted-for-racist-jerseys-1821950491)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 11, 2018, 02:20:44 AM
Trump's new Netherlands envoy sheds no light on 'Muslim chaos' comment (https://uk.reuters.com/article/netherlands-usa-hoekstra/trumps-new-netherlands-envoy-sheds-no-light-on-muslim-chaos-comment-idUKL8N1P53TO)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 11, 2018, 11:09:49 PM
President Trump is not a Racist.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/86f4a6f47bd8a1c77080003a41e14709/tumblr_p2ew4dLVCD1s94fnwo1_500.png)

Trump attacks protections for immigrants from ‘shithole’ countries in Oval Office meeting (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-attacks-protections-for-immigrants-from-shithole-countries-in-oval-office-meeting/2018/01/11/bfc0725c-f711-11e7-91af-31ac729add94_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpmeeting-445pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.4d7995ef5b22)

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“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said, according to these people, referring to African countries and Haiti. He then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries like Norway, whose prime minister he met yesterday.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 11, 2018, 11:59:09 PM
Pilot Flying J ex-president heard on secret recordings using racial epithets (https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2018/01/10/pilot-flying-j-ex-president-heard-secret-recordings-using-racial-epithets/1022474001/)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 13, 2018, 02:15:18 AM
President Trump is not a Racist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LagxU1Oq0Vw

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 13, 2018, 02:17:47 AM
President Trump is not a Racist.


A Racist in the Oval Office (https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/trump-shithole-comment-racist-in-the-oval-office?mbid=social_twitter)

Quote
“Yeah, I never liked the guy. I don’t think he knows what the fuck he’s doing. My accountants in New York are always complaining about him. He’s not responsive. And it isn’t funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else.”

I couldn’t believe I was hearing this. But Donald went on, “Besides that, I’ve got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is. I believe that. It’s not anything they can control. . . . Don’t you agree?” He looked at me straight in the eye and waited for my reply.

“Donald, you really shouldn’t say things like that to me or anybody else,” I said. “That is not the kind of image you want to project. We shouldn’t even be having this conversation, even if it’s the way you feel.”

“Yeah, you’re right,” he said. “If anybody ever heard me say that . . . holy shit . . . I’d be in a lot of trouble. But I have to tell you, that’s the way I feel.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 13, 2018, 02:20:52 AM
President Trump is not a Racist.

Trump’s history of breaking decorum with remarks on race, ethnicity (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-s-history-breaking-decorum-remarks-race-ethnicity-n837181)

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A career intelligence analyst who is an expert in hostage policy stood before President Donald Trump in the Oval Office last fall to brief him on the impending release of a family long held in Pakistan under uncertain circumstances.

It was her first time meeting the president, and when she was done briefing, he had a question for her.

"Where are you from?" the president asked, according to two officials with direct knowledge of the exchange.

New York, she replied.

Trump was unsatisfied and asked again, the officials said. Referring to the president's hometown, she offered that she, too, was from Manhattan. But that's not what the president was after.

He wanted to know where "your people" are from, according to the officials, who spoke under condition of anonymity due to the nature of the internal discussions.

After the analyst revealed that her parents are Korean, Trump turned to an adviser in the room and seemed to suggest her ethnicity should determine her career path, asking why the "pretty Korean lady" isn't negotiating with North Korea on his administration's behalf, the officials said.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 13, 2018, 02:21:57 AM
President Trump is not a Racist.

TRUMP THINKS ONLY BLACK PEOPLE ARE ON WELFARE, BUT, REALLY, WHITE AMERICANS RECEIVE MOST BENEFITS (http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-welfare-black-white-780252?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 13, 2018, 02:24:33 AM
President Trump is not a Racist.

Sen. Dick Durbin: President Trump used 'hate-filled, vile and racist' language in immigration meeting (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-shithole-countries-durbin-20180112-story.html)

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According to Durbin on Friday, Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina was outlining a tentative bipartisan agreement on immigration they hoped Trump would support. That’s when Trump began interjecting, Durbin said.

“As Sen. Graham started to read the plan, the president started making comments and asking questions, and that’s when things deteriorated rapidly,” he said.

“When we talked about those in the United States on temporary protected status, there was a comment they were from El Salvador, Honduras and Haiti,” Durbin said. “’Haitians?’ (Trump) said. ‘We don’t need more Haitians.’ ”

“Then we went on and the president started commenting on immigration from Africa,” Durbin said. “And that’s when he used those sickening, heartbreaking remarks, saying ‘Those shitholes send us the people they don’t want.’ He repeated that. He didn’t just say it one time.”

And Durbin said Trump in the meeting called for more Europeans to be admitted to the U.S. “He said, 'Put me down for one of the more Europeans to come to this country. Why don't we get more people from Norway?' "

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 13, 2018, 11:53:31 AM
President Trump is not a Racist.

TRUMP’S FULL LIST OF ‘RACIST’ COMMENTS ABOUT IMMIGRANTS, MUSLIMS AND OTHERS (http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-full-list-racist-comments-about-immigrants-muslims-and-others-779061)

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This isn’t the first time the president has come under fire for comments about immigrants that critics have labeled as “racist.”

Donald Trump kicked off his 2016 presidential bid by disparaging Mexican immigrants.

“They are not our friend, believe me,” he said. “They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
 
According to The New York Times, Trump said during a meeting in June that Haitians “all have AIDS.” The White House vehemently denied the report.
 
Trump said that Nigerian immigrants wouldn’t ever “go back to their huts” in Africa.
In addition to immigrants, the president has also faced criticism for “racist” comments about people from other countries regardless of their immigration status.

Trump said that Afghanistan is a “terrorist haven.”
 
During the 2016 presidential election, Trump called out a Gold Star Muslim family and insinuated that the mother wasn’t talking because she was Muslim.

“If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me,” Trump said in an interview with ABC News in July.
 
In May 2016, Trump said that federal judge Gonzalo Curiel couldn’t hear the Trump University case fairly because he’s Mexican. “We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, He is giving us very unfair rulings—rulings that people can’t even believe,” he said.
 
Before his career as a politician, Trump allegedly wouldn’t rent to black people back in the 1970s. This led to his company being sued twice by the Justice Department for discrimination.
 
Trump retweeted an anti-Semitic meme.

He was called a racist in November after he said this to Navajo Code Talkers: “I just want to thank you because you’re very, very special people. You were here long before any of us were here, although we have a representative in Congress who, they say, was here a long time ago. They call her ‘Pocahontas.’ But you know what, I like you because you are special. You are special people.”
 
Trump claimed that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States.
 
When Trump addressed the Republican Jewish Coalition in December 2015, he called himself “a negotiator like you folks,” which many people said brought up Jewish stereotypes.
 
Trump once said, “Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that,” according to John R. O’Donnell, author of the 1991 book Trumped!
 
The president blamed “many sides” for neo-Nazi violence last year.
 
Trump retweeted anti-Muslim propaganda from a far-right British group last November.
 
During the 2016 presidential election, Trump pointed to a black man and said, “Look at my African-American over there.”
 
He retweeted false statistics about white homicide victims after a black activist was kicked and punched at one of Trump’s rallies in Alabama.
 
Trump asked African-American reporter April Ryan to set up a meeting with the Congressional Black Caucus. Prior to this exchange, he said that many African-Americans were “living in hell,” in reference to conditions in inner cities, Politico reported.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on January 13, 2018, 12:10:30 PM
I think it is finally coming into focus for the rest of the country.  There are two kinds of people in America.  Those who find this wholly unacceptable, and those who do.  Those who do are racists.  It will be sorted out in the next two election cycles.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 13, 2018, 12:10:53 PM
President Trump is not a Racist.

A President Who Fans, Rather Than Douses, the Nation’s Racial Fires (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/12/us/politics/trump-racism.html)

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White supremacists agreed. Richard Spencer, the white nationalist leader, said on Friday that conservatives defending Mr. Trump on Fox News should stop saying it was about economics and legal systems, rather than race. “It’s obviously all about race, and to their credit, liberals point out the obvious,” he said.

The Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website, likewise welcomed Mr. Trump’s comments. “This is encouraging and refreshing, as it indicates Trump is more or less on the same page as us with regards to race and immigration,” the site said.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 13, 2018, 12:16:14 PM
I think it is finally coming into focus for the rest of the country.  There are two kinds of people in America.  Those who find this wholly unacceptable, and those who do.  Those who do are racists.  It will be sorted out in the next two election cycles.

It's possible Trump has irreparably broken everything, as I feared he would.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on January 13, 2018, 12:36:40 PM
I always said Hillary Clinton hit it right on the head calling half of Trump supporters a basket of deplorables, despite being criticized for that remark.  He’s at 36% approval.  I seem to be doing the math now, and it doesn’t work out.  If you still support Trump at this point, you can’t be anything but a deplorable, and he got about 50% of the vote, so:

36/50 > 50%

Hillary was way too optimistic on how many deplorables are out there, it’s much more than she feared.



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 14, 2018, 01:42:13 AM
Oklahoma City Workers Caught On Tape Calling Martin Luther King Day 'Ni**er Day' (http://www.okayplayer.com/news/oklahoma-warner-workers-martin-luther-king-day-n-word-day.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on January 14, 2018, 07:25:10 AM
#NotRacist Be Like: The Top Ten Phrases Used by People Who Claim They Aren’t Racist (https://www.theroot.com/notracists-be-like-the-top-10-phrases-used-by-peop-1819142064)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 14, 2018, 07:11:14 PM
I recognize that I am biased. In general terms, I am biased towards my own cultural socio-economic strata. I also recognize that I feel more cmfortable with people I feel that I share common outlooks, and even who look more like me.

With that realization in hand I can limit myself from approaching racism. But I need to be conscious of it and work at it, lest I slip into it simply because of my bias.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on January 14, 2018, 10:07:57 PM
I think it’s terrible this recent affliction affecting many Republicans.  I mean who knew about this sudden onset of deafness?  And strange how it’s so specific to the word shithole?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 15, 2018, 03:17:50 AM
One Deputy Fired, Another Resigns After Investigation Uncovers They Targeted Black Georgia Motorists (http://atlantablackstar.com/2016/10/05/one-deputy-fired-another-resigned-investigation-uncovers-targeted-black-motorists-highway/?utm_content=bufferf4300&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 15, 2018, 03:19:35 AM
Trump Puts the Purpose of His Presidency Into Words (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/trump/550454/?utm_source=twb)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 15, 2018, 07:05:13 PM
President Trump is not a Racist.

Donald Trump’s Racism: The Definitive List (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on January 16, 2018, 05:30:17 PM
TRUMP THINKS ONLY BLACK PEOPLE ARE ON WELFARE, BUT, REALLY, WHITE AMERICANS RECEIVE MOST BENEFITS

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-welfare-black-white-780252


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 16, 2018, 05:37:53 PM
TRUMP THINKS ONLY BLACK PEOPLE ARE ON WELFARE, BUT, REALLY, WHITE AMERICANS RECEIVE MOST BENEFITS

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-welfare-black-white-780252

President Trump is not a Racist.


#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 16, 2018, 07:43:35 PM
Dale Carnegie calls this technique "taking a bridge". Make a statement, or quote something, then change the topic and present a hypothetical, and agree with your own hypothetical, as if someone actually said it.

This headline is nothing but clickbait, by the original publication. The President asked about the constituents of a particular Congressperson, when she said they are not all black. And from that "Who are they?" remark in conversation, the Magazine/Writer surmises and tries to make it seem the President is not informed with the reality about who in America is on the dole.

It suits some here who will say or quote anything to further their agenda.

TRUMP THINKS ONLY BLACK PEOPLE ARE ON WELFARE, BUT, REALLY, WHITE AMERICANS RECEIVE MOST BENEFITS

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-welfare-black-white-780252


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on January 16, 2018, 07:50:19 PM
Says a person who changes the title of articles and then writes her own text and gives quotes in a way that it is not clear what is quoted and what is written by same person.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on January 16, 2018, 08:22:29 PM
Joan, I'm prepared to partially agree with you here. Snarky "gotcha" writing comes from both sides of the political aisle, and it's crap regardless of who does it. I would be even more inclined to support you if you didn't post so much of this kind of writing yourself. But that's somewhat beside the point

But here's my issue (excerpt from the Newsweek article):

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In the spring of 2017, the newly elected president met with members of the Congressional Black Caucus. During that meeting, one of the members mentioned to Trump that welfare reform would be detrimental to her constituents— adding, “Not all of whom are black,” according to NBC News.

The president was incredulous. “Really? Then what are they?”

It seems to me that this is exactly what was claimed in the title. So where's the lie (or bridge, or change of topic or whatever you want to call it)?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 16, 2018, 08:37:25 PM
Dale Carnegie calls this technique "taking a bridge". Make a statement, or quote something, then change the topic and present a hypothetical, and agree with your own hypothetical, as if someone actually said it.

This headline is nothing but clickbait, by the original publication. The President asked about the constituents of a particular Congressperson, when she said they are not all black. And from that "Who are they?" remark in conversation, the Magazine/Writer surmises and tries to make it seem the President is not informed with the reality about who in America is on the dole.

It suits some here who will say or quote anything to further their agenda.


President Trump is not a Racist.

TRUMP THINKS ONLY BLACK PEOPLE ARE ON WELFARE, BUT, REALLY, WHITE AMERICANS RECEIVE MOST BENEFITS (http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-welfare-black-white-780252?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social)

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In fact, whites are the biggest beneficiaries when it comes to government safety-net programs like the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, commonly referred to as welfare.

White people without a college degree ages 18 to 64 are the largest class of adults lifted out of poverty by such programs, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The think tank’s 2017 report stated that 6.2 million working-age whites were lifted above the poverty line in 2014 compared to 2.8 million blacks and 2.4 million Hispanics.

When it comes the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP—the initiative formerly known as food stamps—the numbers look similar.

Just over 40 percent of SNAP recipients are white. Another 25.7 percent are black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American, according to a 2015 Department of Agriculture report.

Despite Trump’s newly gleaned information, welfare reform remains one of his top goals for 2018. His administration and Congressional Republicans are looking to overhaul federal safety-net programs like SNAP, Medicaid and housing benefits.

Do you dispute these statistics?  If so please provide a credible, verifiable source.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 16, 2018, 08:40:04 PM
It suits some here who will say or quote anything to further their agenda.

You tried hijacking this thread in its infancy stage into a discussion about Hillary Clinton because you care to paint yourself and Trump as not racists.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 17, 2018, 02:24:41 AM
White Sorority Girl at University of Alabama Records Racist Rant for Instagram (https://www.theroot.com/white-sorority-girl-at-university-of-alabama-records-ra-1822135328)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 17, 2018, 03:09:57 AM
Clickbait!


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 17, 2018, 04:10:44 AM
Dale Carnegie calls this technique "taking a bridge". Make a statement, or quote something, then change the topic and present a hypothetical, and agree with your own hypothetical, as if someone actually said it.

This headline is nothing but clickbait, by the original publication. The President asked about the constituents of a particular Congressperson, when she said they are not all black. And from that "Who are they?" remark in conversation, the Magazine/Writer surmises and tries to make it seem the President is not informed with the reality about who in America is on the dole.

It suits some here who will say or quote anything to further their agenda.

TRUMP THINKS ONLY BLACK PEOPLE ARE ON WELFARE, BUT, REALLY, WHITE AMERICANS RECEIVE MOST BENEFITS

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-welfare-black-white-780252
Actually it demosnstrates, not only Trumps ignorance, but your issues with parsing English.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 17, 2018, 04:18:31 AM
Clickbait!

Do you have a credible, verifiable source that disputes the article?

Thanks in advance.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 17, 2018, 05:30:24 AM
  The "Article" attaches itself to a false headline which is the clickbait. Anyone who has lived in the US and pays any attention at all knows the demographics of the Welfare State is more proportional to the overall population, than to any single racial or ethnic group.

  Inferring racism in any discussion of issues that may affect any racial group at all, effectively deters discussion by serious people, and your placement of this article in your race baiting thread attests to this fact.

  A congressperson, female, told the President that her constituents were not black, or not all black, and he furthered that conversation to explore her input in the same vein, having nothing to do with statistical welfare distribution. The writer forced that issue into the article, wanting for the writers own reasons to do so.

  Clickbait!

Clickbait!

Do you have a credible, verifiable source that disputes the article?

Thanks in advance.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 17, 2018, 05:40:03 AM
No, Joan. He was ignorant enough to think that only blacks vote for blacks. He was signaling his ignorance of the same statistical population that you so generously quoted.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 17, 2018, 06:06:51 AM
The quoted article makes no mention of the congressperson's response. It just launches into stats and presumes ignorance by the President, which of course is why it is presented here.

My point is that the article is reflective of the writer and the writer's politics and has little to do with the President and knowledge about a particular congressperson's constituency. No light was shed about the constituency, in any event.

Clickbait!

More fake news, partial truths, bullshit leading questions, in this case not even a question, just a place to dump irrelevant information to insinuate a ignorance that was never described or documented. Presented as if a 'news report' what is a slanted opinion piece, a clear political hit job.

I expect no less from some here, just wanted to call a spade a spade.


No, Joan. He was ignorant enough to think that only blacks vote for blacks. He was signaling his ignorance of the same statistical population that you so generously quoted.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 17, 2018, 06:22:53 AM
Actually, given the amount, nature, of  the previous statements of Trump, it all falls into the realm of credibility. Nothing sucks more  than your hero continually creating self inflicted wounds. In Trumps case they are all sucking head wounds.

Trump has the vocabulary of a 6 year old, and the emotional maturity of one as well.

He is narcissistic, and has no moral decency. He can’t shut up.

He has the right to remain silent, he doesn’t have the ability.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 17, 2018, 06:30:39 AM
just wanted to call a spade a spade.

This would be a rarity for you.  Usually your racist views are thinly veiled but always unmasked.

At least you could have quoted the article you question yet fail to refute with any facts.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on January 17, 2018, 04:01:01 PM
I think it’s terrible this recent affliction affecting many Republicans.  I mean who knew about this sudden onset of deafness?  And strange how it’s so specific to the word shithole?



(https://i.imgur.com/rfN3IZX.jpg)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 17, 2018, 06:57:19 PM
Indiana teen caught on video screaming ‘f*ck n*ggers’ into a bullhorn while draped in a Nazi flag (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/indiana-teen-caught-on-video-screaming-fck-nggers-into-a-bullhorn-while-draped-in-a-nazi-flag/#.Wl9vmhlyJ1Y.twitter)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on January 17, 2018, 08:57:10 PM
Clickbait!


Clickbait!

Snowflake!

Fake news!

And then we have the specific derogatory names.

Pocahontas!

Little Marko!

Lyin’ Ted!

And just today I saw actual real journalists Jim Acosta and Anderson Cooper called Little Jimmy and Giggles by a Fox contributor:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/01/17/cnn-star-jim-acosta-should-be-kicked-out-white-house-press-corps.html

The right and Trump in particular are reduced to name calling and buzz words when an actual intelligent truthful argument is lacking.  And highlighting the fact that racists are emboldened by the environment created by this president is not clickbait.  That Hilary Clinton runs a kiddie porn ring in a DC pizza joint, now that’s fake news clickbait.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 18, 2018, 12:56:15 AM
There's been a long history of someone trying to derail this thread and the very real issues it brings to light.

It's merely another pathetic attempt.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 18, 2018, 01:00:39 AM
White Sorority Girl at University of Alabama Records Racist Rant for Instagram (https://www.theroot.com/white-sorority-girl-at-university-of-alabama-records-ra-1822135328)

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Updated Wednesday, Jan. 17, 2018, 5:30 p.m. EST: The University of Alabama is now confirming that Harley Barber is no longer enrolled at the school.

UA President Stuart Bell issued the following statement, which was shared to the university’s Twitter account:

In light of the racist and disturbing videos posted by one of our students on social media, I want to express my personal disgust and disappointment.

Like many of you, I find the videos highly offensive and deeply hurtful, not only to our students and our entire University community, but to everyone who viewed them. The actions of this student do not represent the larger student body or the values of our University, and she is no longer enrolled here.

We hold our students to much higher standards, and we apologize to everyone who has seen the videos and been hurt by this hateful, ignorant and offensive behavior. This is not who we are; it is unacceptable and unwelcome here at UA. These types of incidents affect community members differently. If you have been impacted and would like additional support, please access resources here that are available to you on our campus.

Over the last year, I have had conversations with many of you who shared your UA experiences with me. You have voiced your pride in the progress we have made, but we still have much work to do. I want to thank all of the students, faculty and staff who met today to have conversations about this event and the steps we can take, individually and collectively, to create a more welcoming and inclusive campus. You have my commitment and the commitment of our leadership team to sustain progress and address directly any issues that arise.

I know you join me in taking a stand against this and all reprehensible behavior. As members of this community, we are a family and this is our home. Everyone has a right to feel safe and welcome here.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on January 18, 2018, 02:24:25 AM
White Sorority Girl at University of Alabama Records Racist Rant for Instagram (https://www.theroot.com/white-sorority-girl-at-university-of-alabama-records-ra-1822135328)

Quote
Updated Wednesday, Jan. 17, 2018, 5:30 p.m. EST: The University of Alabama is now confirming that Harley Barber is no longer enrolled at the school.

UA President Stuart Bell issued the following statement, which was shared to the university’s Twitter account:

In light of the racist and disturbing videos posted by one of our students on social media, I want to express my personal disgust and disappointment.

Like many of you, I find the videos highly offensive and deeply hurtful, not only to our students and our entire University community, but to everyone who viewed them. The actions of this student do not represent the larger student body or the values of our University, and she is no longer enrolled here.

We hold our students to much higher standards, and we apologize to everyone who has seen the videos and been hurt by this hateful, ignorant and offensive behavior. This is not who we are; it is unacceptable and unwelcome here at UA. These types of incidents affect community members differently. If you have been impacted and would like additional support, please access resources here that are available to you on our campus.

Over the last year, I have had conversations with many of you who shared your UA experiences with me. You have voiced your pride in the progress we have made, but we still have much work to do. I want to thank all of the students, faculty and staff who met today to have conversations about this event and the steps we can take, individually and collectively, to create a more welcoming and inclusive campus. You have my commitment and the commitment of our leadership team to sustain progress and address directly any issues that arise.

I know you join me in taking a stand against this and all reprehensible behavior. As members of this community, we are a family and this is our home. Everyone has a right to feel safe and welcome here.

#Resist

Three cheers for the University of Alabama on your stance against racism!

Unfortunately as a fan of the University of Tennessee, I still hate your football team.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 19, 2018, 03:34:09 AM
Trump appointee Carl Higbie resigns as public face of agency that runs AmeriCorps after KFile review of racist, sexist, anti-Muslim and anti-LGBT comments on the radio (http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/politics/kfile-carl-higbie-on-the-radio/index.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 21, 2018, 04:07:01 AM
White supremacists responsible for most extremist killings in 2017, ADL says (http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/17/us/white-supremacist-killings-adl-report/index.html?sr=twCNN011718white-supremacist-killings-adl-report0857PMStory)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 22, 2018, 04:08:29 AM
Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/369132-former-trump-executive-i-do-believe-trump-is-a-racist#.WmSL6kETafc.twitter)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 26, 2018, 02:25:00 PM
Poll: Majority of Americans thinks Trump is biased against black people (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/370462-poll-majority-of-americans-thinks-trump-is-biased-against-black)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 28, 2018, 01:02:21 AM
A Chicago Cop’s Facebook Posts and a City’s Struggle With Racism (https://www.propublica.org/article/chicago-police-complaints-racism)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 28, 2018, 04:15:27 AM
‘Get out of the country!’: Navajo lawmaker harassed by Arizona Trump supporters accusing him of being here ‘illegally’
(https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/get-country-navajo-lawmaker-harassed-arizona-trump-supporters-accusing-illegally/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 28, 2018, 04:37:44 AM
How White House advisor Stephen Miller went from pestering Hispanic students to designing Trump's immigration policy (https://www.univision.com/univision-news/politics/how-white-house-advisor-stephen-miller-went-from-pestering-hispanic-students-to-designing-trumps-immigration-policy)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on January 28, 2018, 08:45:46 AM
‘Get out of the country!’: Navajo lawmaker harassed by Arizona Trump supporters accusing him of being here ‘illegally’
(https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/get-country-navajo-lawmaker-harassed-arizona-trump-supporters-accusing-illegally/)

#Resist

Wow. Now THAT's ironic.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on January 28, 2018, 06:56:13 PM
‘Get out of the country!’: Navajo lawmaker harassed by Arizona Trump supporters accusing him of being here ‘illegally’
(https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/get-country-navajo-lawmaker-harassed-arizona-trump-supporters-accusing-illegally/)

#Resist

Wow. Now THAT's ironic.

Read the article and it is bad.  They were harassing anyone that was not white and accusing them of being illegal. 


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 28, 2018, 08:18:17 PM
  Stephen Miller is doing a great job, speaking truth and helping President Trump communicate clearly to Americans and non-Americans alike. Not surprised to hear he was in Honors classes in High School, and was outspoken there, openly, with his peers of all races, and with teachers, school board folks as well.

  A man who is passionate when communicating, defends his views openly and effectively, is great to see, at the highest level in our Federal Government. His experience with Senator Sessions led to the recognition he receives now, and his experiences in California helped shape who he is today, in the belly of the beast so to speak, in California.

  His enemies are our enemies, as Americans who love the country, and it's history, and Constitution, and want to preserve our Nation. MAGA.

How White House advisor Stephen Miller went from pestering Hispanic students to designing Trump's immigration policy (https://www.univision.com/univision-news/politics/how-white-house-advisor-stephen-miller-went-from-pestering-hispanic-students-to-designing-trumps-immigration-policy)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on January 28, 2018, 08:21:32 PM
How White House advisor Stephen Miller went from pestering Hispanic students to designing Trump's immigration policy (https://www.univision.com/univision-news/politics/how-white-house-advisor-stephen-miller-went-from-pestering-hispanic-students-to-designing-trumps-immigration-policy)

#Resist

This is a very damning report for a person who is driving immigration policy by whispering in Trump’s ear.  Even politicians like Lindsey Graham agree Trump’s view comes from Miller.

I’d like to see more corroboration on this.  If those from Miller’s past interviewed for the article were further interviewed even on TV, and other news organizations looked deeper into these allegations of racism, then I would be more convinced.  This is big news if true and needs more said about it.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on January 28, 2018, 08:22:46 PM
  Stephen Miller is doing a great job, speaking truth and helping President Trump communicate clearly to Americans and non-Americans alike. Not surprised to hear he was in Honors classes in High School, and was outspoken there, openly, with his peers of all races, and with teachers, school board folks as well.

  A man who is passionate when communicating, defends his views openly and effectively, is great to see, at the highest level in our Federal Government. His experience with Senator Sessions led to the recognition he receives now, and his experiences in California helped shape who he is today, in the belly of the beast so to speak, in California.

  His enemies are our enemies, as Americans who love the country, and it's history, and Constitution, and want to preserve our Nation. MAGA.

How White House advisor Stephen Miller went from pestering Hispanic students to designing Trump's immigration policy (https://www.univision.com/univision-news/politics/how-white-house-advisor-stephen-miller-went-from-pestering-hispanic-students-to-designing-trumps-immigration-policy)

#Resist

Well shit, why am I not surprised?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 28, 2018, 09:27:29 PM
Joan, your America is not the America I was raised in. It is not the America my father fought for. It is not the America my Grandfather fought for.

If it comes down to it, I will meet you on the barricades to take back America from the likes of you.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 28, 2018, 09:51:08 PM
Texas in general agrees with me, most times, so you are not required to go along with your neighbors, nor am I, Katiebee. 

The article trashing Miller, and citing what some 'friend' from when he was around 13 years old, reminds me of the articles leftists published and used as clubs on Mitt Romney, during his run for President, against a sitting President who totally blocked his history in most cases.

People who read and quoted from Obama's two autobiographical books were called racist for believing his own books, and reading passages in public, from his publishers. Has the media ever found a classmate of Barack Obama from his undergraduate years, willing to say anything about BHO? I don't think so.

Next will be stories about Stephen Miller and his family dog not being belted in when on a trip to the vet, when he was 15, or something.

The Spanish used for captions in photos in this article speaks to the insidious propaganda nature of the publisher. Someone needs to tell California that no matter how many Dems vote there, they only get so many Electoral College votes, so their get out the vote lies and lobbying is a waste of time, for now.

Stephen Miller is a mentor for many who are learning how to make their views known, and have their views matter. He handles the White House Media with facts, and they can not handle it.

Speaking plainly is refreshing, from any political people, and it is most important that President Trump's message gets past the press censors, who tend to ignore his achievements, and rant against his policies, before most folks can digest the reality of a plain spoken statement themselves.

Most people certainly will not read uncensored Trump truths on the front page of their local newspapers, if they ever even find it there at all.

Joan, your America is not the America I was raised in. It is not the America my father fought for. It is not the America my Grandfather fought for.

If it comes down to it, I will meet you on the barricades to take back America from the likes of you.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Northwest on January 28, 2018, 09:58:48 PM
It's not hard to imagine Joan at the Nuremberg Rally giving the Nazi salute and cheering Hitler on. Joan is a broken person, seemingly completely lacking in heart. When I encounter that in a person, I find it odd and sad and terrifying.



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 28, 2018, 10:56:50 PM
Joan, considering that you and your fellow travelers cannot understand the Constitution, have issues following the precepts of their own religion., don’t believe in the rule of law, and are fine with discriminating against people of other ethnic, racial, and religious groups, I don’t understand why you think you deserve to be American citizens


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 28, 2018, 11:18:52 PM
It's not hard to imagine Joan at the Nuremberg Rally giving the Nazi salute and cheering Hitler on. Joan is a broken person, seemingly completely lacking in heart. When I encounter that in a person, I find it odd and sad and terrifying.



(http://c-7npsfqifvt34x24x78x78x78x2euscjnhx2edpn.g00.chicagotribune.com/g00/3_c-7x78x78x78.dijdbhpusjcvof.dpn_/c-7NPSFQIFVT34x24iuuqx3ax2fx2fx78x78x78.uscjnh.dpnx2fjnh-67f5b31fx2fuvscjofx2fdu-cjshjuu-qfufstpo-qipupt-31271423x2f961x2f961y589x3fj21d.nbslx3djnbhf_$/$/$/$/$/$)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 28, 2018, 11:25:51 PM
Speaking plainly is refreshing, from any political people, and it is most important that President Trump's message gets past the press censors, who tend to ignore his achievements, and rant against his policies, before most folks can digest the reality of a plain spoken statement themselves.

Most people certainly will not read uncensored Trump truths on the front page of their local newspapers, if they ever even find it there at all.

The Trump administration, in its own words (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/opinions/the-year-in-trump-quotes/?utm_term=.a6774cccc06d)

Do you dispute any of these quotes?

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on January 28, 2018, 11:31:27 PM
  Stephen Miller is doing a great job, speaking truth and helping President Trump communicate clearly to Americans and non-Americans alike. Not surprised to hear he was in Honors classes in High School, and was outspoken there, openly, with his peers of all races, and with teachers, school board folks as well.

  A man who is passionate when communicating, defends his views openly and effectively, is great to see, at the highest level in our Federal Government. His experience with Senator Sessions led to the recognition he receives now, and his experiences in California helped shape who he is today, in the belly of the beast so to speak, in California.

  His enemies are our enemies, as Americans who love the country, and it's history, and Constitution, and want to preserve our Nation. MAGA.

I am concerned for the mental state of anyone who describes their fellow Americans as "enemies" just because they don't believe as they do.  This is another sign of being morally bankrupt.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 28, 2018, 11:33:13 PM
If it comes down to it, I will meet you on the barricades to take back America from the likes of you.

Careful, according to Trump, joan1984 has "very fine people" on that side.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on January 29, 2018, 12:31:00 AM
Joan, your America is not the America I was raised in. It is not the America my father fought for. It is not the America my Grandfather fought for.

If it comes down to it, I will meet you on the barricades to take back America from the likes of you.

The really horrific thing is it might actually come down to that.  If there are impeachment proceedings, and Trump is removed from office by congress, does anyone doubt he will reach out to his well-armed base to violently oppose this?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 29, 2018, 02:51:33 AM
Just remenber, my dad taught me a lot things about the Army. And I can arm a platoon.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 29, 2018, 04:16:14 AM
HOW STEPHEN MILLER RODE WHITE RAGE FROM DUKE’S CAMPUS TO TRUMP’S WEST WING (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/stephen-miller-duke-donald-trump)

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And if his classmates happened to have figured out “at their tender age” that they were gay? “We have a club on campus that will gladly help foster their homosexuality,” Miller complained. “Do they notify parents if their teenagers have chosen an alternate lifestyle? Of course not.”

Quote
Miller bullied “the opposition with unverifiable statistics and figures, baseless claims launched with his articulate bravado. He would just bludgeon you with evidence he pulled from thin air, gun-death numbers or immigration statistics that were usually false or gross exaggerations.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 29, 2018, 04:20:55 AM
How a liberal Santa Monica high school produced a top Trump advisor and speechwriter (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-speechwriter-santamonica-20170117-story.html)

Quote
"He just didn't buy it. He didn't believe the oppression existed.… This guy is 17 years old, and it's like listening to someone who's 70 years old —  in the 1930s."

Quote
"I think he was one of the first examples we all had of someone who really felt threatened and left out by our celebration of multiculturalism and diversity,"

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 29, 2018, 05:26:55 AM

I am concerned for the mental state of anyone who describes their fellow Americans as "enemies" just because they don't believe as they do.  This is another sign of being morally bankrupt.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-to-latinos-punish-your-enemies-in-the-voting-booth/article/511932

Hmmm, how quickly they forget, or maybe just listen differently.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 29, 2018, 05:28:53 AM

I am concerned for the mental state of anyone who describes their fellow Americans as "enemies" just because they don't believe as they do.  This is another sign of being morally bankrupt.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-to-latinos-punish-your-enemies-in-the-voting-booth/article/511932

Hmmm, how quickly they forget, or maybe just listen differently.
Or maybe simply responding to a racist attack?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 29, 2018, 06:11:22 PM
Rep. Paul Gosar misstates statistics in claiming DACA recipients are more prone to crime (https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2018/01/29/rep-gosar-facebook-mistated-crime-statistics-claiming-daca-recipients-prone-crime/1070070001/)

A racist in AZ.  There's a fucking surprise.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 29, 2018, 10:47:13 PM
How 'chain migration' brought us the Trump White House (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/01/29/how-chain-migration-brought-us-the-trump-white-house/?utm_term=.85d1291e6644)

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There’s an irony to this policy shift, though. A number of prominent members of the Trump administration have ancestors who are only in the country because they came to join members of their families who would be excluded from sponsoring them under the new proposal.

Donald Trump
Trump has benefited from what could be called “chain migration” on both sides of his family. (It’s important to note that it was the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 that established the existing standards regarding family relationships. Most of the migration described in this article preceded that law.)

His mother, Mary Anne Macleod migrated to the United States in 1930 from Scotland at the age of 18. She joined her sister Catherine Macleod (who had married a butler named George Reid) in Astoria, Queens, as reported by the Scottish paper the National.

“The National can reveal that Mary Anne had been issued with immigration visa no. 26698 at Glasgow on February 17, 1930,” reporter Martin Hannan writes. “On the passenger list for all aliens … Mary Anne states she will be living with her sister Mrs Catherine Reid, 3520 6th Avenue, Astoria, Long Island.” That document also indicated that Macleod intended to become an American citizen. (That’s the second yes on the image below. The “Perm” refers to the length of stay.)

In 1936, Mary Anne Macleod married Trump’s father, Fred.

Fred Trump’s father — the president’s grandfather — was named Friedrich and himself immigrated in 1885. He, too, appears to have arrived in New York City to be welcomed by his sister. The book “The Trumps” by Gwenda Blair describes Friedrich’s arrival at Ellis Island:

Friedrich Trump presented his papers, had them stamped, and found himself shoved into the grimy central rotunda. In the eerie half-light of gas lamps, officials shouted the names of those who had mail or, if they were fortunate, friends and relatives there in person. When “Friedrich Trump” rang out, the slim, light-haired youth jumped up and dashed over to the waiting room. His older sister, who had Americanized her name to Katherine, and her husband, Peter Schuster, stood there, smiling and teary eyed.

Friedrich Trump quickly found work as a barber, eventually moving west and making a fortune off the Yukon gold rush.

If Trump’s proposed rules applied, neither Trump’s paternal grandfather nor his mother would be allowed to enter the United States, since each came to meet a sibling already here.

Mike Pence
In a post at Medium, genealogy researcher Megan Smolenyak walked through Pence’s family background.

Pence’s maternal grandfather, Richard Cawley, came to the United States in 1923, according to Smolenyak’s research, joining his brother, James, who had arrived eight years earlier. James’s arrival at the age of 16 was predicated on joining his aunt, a woman identified in immigration documents only as “Mrs. Schnorr” of Illinois.

Neither of those relationships would qualify under the Trump administration’s proposed rules.

Richard Cawley’s eventual wife, Pence’s grandmother, was Mary Elizabeth Maloney, whose parents had themselves immigrated from Ireland. Our attempts to find their immigration records were unsuccessful.

Stephen Miller
The face of Trump’s immigration policy is Stephen Miller, a senior adviser to the president who’d previously worked in the office of Attorney General Jeff Sessions when Sessions served in the Senate. It was Miller who, last year, presented an initial immigration plan at a White House press briefing and who has repeatedly been described as the hard-liner behind much of Trump’s rhetoric.

Miller is the great-grandson of a man named Sam Glosser, as reported by Jewish Journal. Glosser was one of a family of retailers in Johnstown, Pa., son of a man named Wolf Lieb Glotzer.

The elder Glotzer came to the United States from Belarus in 1903. The documentation of his arrival in the United States includes the person who he joined here: his brother-in-law, Schmuel Levine.

The book “Long Live Glosser’s,” about the retail stores that the family founded, indicates that Wolf Glotzer’s son Nathan soon joined him in the United States. It was Nathan who ended up in Johnstown and started the store.

In 1906, Sam Glosser arrived in the United States on the Ryndam, along with his mother and two siblings. They listed Wolf Glotzer as their point of contact.

Glotzer’s arrival wouldn’t have met Trump’s standard for entry. But once here, he could have petitioned for Sam Glosser — under 21 and unmarried — to join him.

Dan Scavino
Trump relies on social media to promote his policy messages, and, save the tweets which Trump himself composes, that means relying on social media director Dan Scavino.

For Politico, genealogy researcher Jennifer Mendelsohn looked at the Scavino family’s history.

His great-grandfather, Gildo Scavino was born in Italy in 1884. Mendelsohn writes:

Gildo Scavino was part of a classic chain of immigrants that began with his older brother Vittorio (or Victor, as he would come to be known) who arrived at Ellis Island in 1904 with his wife Camilla. The records indicate that Vittorio had come on a business trip, but he apparently stayed on, because the following March, when brother Ettore (who would become Hector) arrived from Canelli, he listed brother Vittorio, at an address on E. 59th Street in New York City, as his point of contact.

Gildo Scavino arrived in 1913, accompanied by Vittorio (now going by Victor).

Under the existing rules, Victor Scavino could sponsor Gildo Scavino’s green card. Under the new rules Scavino’s great-grandson is responsible for promoting, he can’t.

Others
We looked at a few other White House staffers as well. Communications Director Hope Hicks is the descendant of families from Tennessee and South Carolina (by way of Connecticut). Legislative director Marc Short is the offspring of a long-standing Virginia family. Chief of Staff John F. Kelly’s family is from Massachusetts, but it was difficult to learn much beyond that. (Feel free to email us with insights.)

Perhaps the most interesting immigrant story is Jared Kushner’s. His paternal grandparents immigrated to the United States in 1949, after surviving the Holocaust. His grandmother, Rae Kushner, was instrumental in helping to orchestrate a mass escape from a Nazi-controlled ghetto. She helped construct a tunnel that allowed hundreds of Jews to escape with their lives.

In an interview with the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in D.C. given in 1982, Kushner laments that the policies of the United States during the war made it hard for refugees from Nazi-controlled areas to immigrate.

“For the Jews, the doors were closed,” she said. “We never understood that. Even President Roosevelt kept the doors closed. Why? The boat, St. Louis, was turned back. What was the world afraid of? I don’t understand.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on January 29, 2018, 11:01:06 PM

I am concerned for the mental state of anyone who describes their fellow Americans as "enemies" just because they don't believe as they do.  This is another sign of being morally bankrupt.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-to-latinos-punish-your-enemies-in-the-voting-booth/article/511932

Hmmm, how quickly they forget, or maybe just listen differently.

I did not write that article, not have I ever described my fellow Americans as enemies.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 30, 2018, 04:25:51 PM
Trump is trying to Make America White Again (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-trying-to-make-america-white-again/2018/01/29/9afa7afa-053d-11e8-8777-2a059f168dd2_story.html?utm_term=.5212db4def2b)

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President Trump's immigration proposal reveals what he has been after all along: an end to family-based immigration and the "lottery visa," which would mean fewer Latino, African and Muslim newcomers. And perhaps more Norwegians, if any want to come.

Yes, Trump is trying to Make America White Again. You're probably not surprised.

The broad amnesty that the White House offers to 1.8 million undocumented people brought here when they were children is just a diversion. The $25 billion Trump wants for his "border wall system" — really more of an intermittent fence — is mostly a sop to his base. Much more important in the long run is the fundamental shift Trump wants to make in the nation's system of legal immigration.

The administration seeks to drastically curtail the ability of immigrants to sponsor family members for entry into the country. This can only be seen as an attempt to halt the "browning" of America.

Under current law, U.S. citizens — including immigrants who are naturalized — can petition to obtain entry for their spouses, parents, siblings and sons and daughters of any age. Immigrants who are not citizens but hold green cards — meaning they are permanent residents — can sponsor spouses and minor or adult children for entry.

Trump proposes a sweeping change: Both citizens and green-card holders would be able to sponsor only spouses and minor children. As far as parents, siblings and adult children are concerned: Hasta la vista.

It is, of course, ironic that Republicans, who yammer so much about family values, would even entertain a proposal that is so deeply anti-family. But the party nominated and elected a thrice-married man who bragged about his habit of sexual harassment and allegedly paid hush money to a porn star for her silence about a tryst, so I guess that horse has long since left the barn.

The idea of limiting family-based sponsorship — championed by administration officials such as presidential adviser Stephen Miller and his former boss, Attorney General Jeff Sessions — is broadly supported by GOP immigration hard-liners. Since it is difficult to argue against bringing close relatives together, proponents use the clinical-sounding term "chain migration," as if we were talking about links of metal rather than flesh-and-blood human beings.

Trump also wants to eliminate the diversity visa program, which allocates 50,000 visas each year to countries that otherwise send few immigrants to the United States. Applicants are selected by lottery but then are carefully vetted. White House claims that individuals are admitted "at random" in a program "riddled with fraud and abuse" are lies.

What is true is that the diversity lottery has primarily benefited migrants from African nations, which Trump has called "shithole countries."

The net result of Trump's plan — the whole purpose, apparently — would be to welcome fewer people of color into the United States. In an Oval Office meeting, Trump reportedly demanded to know why there couldn't be more immigrants from countries such as Norway. Surely it is not just a coincidence that Norway is one of the whitest countries in the world.

It should also be noted that while Trump's proposal would provide a 10- ­to-12-year path to citizenship for 1.8 million undocumented immigrants who came into the country as children, it says nothing at all about the other 9 million or so here without documents. Presumably they would remain in the shadows.

There's a simple question here: Do you believe in America or not?

Throughout its history, the country has accepted waves of mostly low-skilled immigrants — German, Irish, Italian, Eastern European, now Latino. There are highly skilled immigrants, too; African newcomers, for example, are better-educated than the U.S. population as a whole, and an estimated 63 percent of people holding "computer and mathematical" jobs in Silicon Valley are foreign-born. But most immigrants over the years have arrived bearing not much more than grit, ambition and a dream.

Does an influx of workers with entry-level skills tend to depress wages? That's the wrong question. Instead, we should be asking why the federal minimum wage is so low as to be almost irrelevant.

And we should recognize that immigration gives the United States a tremendous competitive advantage. In other advanced countries, populations are aging rapidly. Immigration provides a steady stream of younger workers whose brain and brawn keep programs such as Medicare and Social Security viable.

The only coherent — if despicable — arguments for Trump's plan are racial and cultural. The way they used to put it in the Jim Crow days was succinct: White is right.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 31, 2018, 04:34:08 AM
Missouri Athletic Director Says South Carolina Fans Spit On Women's Basketball Players, Used "The N-Word" (https://deadspin.com/missouri-athletic-director-says-south-carolina-fans-spi-1822573480)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on January 31, 2018, 08:36:21 PM
Godwin be damned.

Trump’s “chain migration” obsession: The Nazis thought of it first
Far right’s latest paranoid meme — immigrants will overrun us like insects! — has an extremely ugly history
by Chauncey Devega

Donald Trump is a white supremacist. This fact has been repeatedly proven to be true by his words, deeds, thoughts, beliefs and actions. It is repetitious and tedious to chronicle what has been obvious for years, if not decades. Nevertheless, it remains essential to call attention to this fact. Too many Americans, especially those in the news media who should know better, yet feign shock at each new Trumpian low point slouched to by President Trump -- remain in denial about his profound racism.

As the entire world knows by now, during a meeting about immigration reform last Thursday, Trump reportedly described various nonwhite countries as "shitholes" and suggested that America needs more immigrants from predominantly white nations such as Norway. As controversy erupted in response to Trump's comments, one of his spokespeople told CNN that they will resonate among his base.

It is important to note that Trump's operative chose not to deny the substance or spirit of Trump's bigoted, hateful remarks. Indeed, that person spoke the truth about how such statements will be received by the president's racist supporters.

As I explained in an earlier article at Salon, Trump and the Republican Party are seeking to engage in a "soft" ethnic cleansing of nonwhites and Muslim immigrants. Such a policy is in keeping with how fascists target a group that can be considered the Other, as a way of building momentum for their movement and creating a feeling of "us versus them" cohesion among supporters.

Trump's hostility towards immigrants from Latin America (whom he has described as natural born rapists and murders), his suggestion of creating a national registration database of Muslims, his cancellation of the DACA program, his recent remarks that Haitians all have AIDS and Nigerians live in "huts," and his implication that the people of Puerto Rico were lazy because they needed help after the devastation of Hurricane Maria, all fit this pattern.

In total, Donald Trump shares the beliefs of white supremacists, has surrounded himself with white supremacists, has emboldened white supremacist violence and is advancing policies intended to protect and expand white privilege and white power. Donald Trump has no desire to be the president of all Americans. He cares only about pleasing his white racist public.

Several weeks ago, in the midst of the toxic wave of coordinated chaos that spews forth on a daily basis from Trump and his party, an important detail went little-noticed by the mainstream news media and chattering class.

Trump and his right-wing allies have avidly worked to mainstream a new talking point about "chain migration." The idea is that immigrants from nonwhite and Muslim countries ultimately bring large extended family groups with them, who come to America as social parasites.

A statement released by the White House in December explained it this way:

Most green cards in the United States are awarded based on an antiquated system of family ties, not skill or merit. This system of Chain Migration – whereby one immigrant can bring in their entire extended families, who can bring in their families and so on – de-skills the labor force, puts downward pressure on wages, and increases the deficit. Chain Migration also undermines national security, by failing to establish merit-based criteria for evaluating entrants into the United States – instead, familial relations are all that is required to obtain a green card and, in turn, become a voting U.S. Citizen within a short period of time, with access to Federal welfare and government benefits.

Of course this is a gross distortion of how America's immigration laws actually work in practice: It takes many years for someone to sponsor relatives, even from his or her immediate family. Serious economists and other researchers have also concluded that immigrants are a net positive gain for the American economy.

Even more troubling, given Donald Trump's white supremacist views, is the diagram used by the White House to signal the perils of "chain migration" and the way "undesirable" immigrant can supposedly bring many more of them to America.

(https://i.imgur.com/zZsRlQR.png)


For comparison, here is one of the original "race science" diagrams used in Nazi Germany to explain the Nuremberg Laws:

(https://i.imgur.com/p9kyUZ2.jpg)

Here is a Nazi-era cartoon depicting the paranoid fear that Jews and other "undesirables" would soon outbreed the so-called Aryans:

(https://i.imgur.com/JWbFegN.jpg)

In essence, according to Trump administration logic, one "undesirable" person from a "shithole" country can pollute the entirety of (white) American society. Such a claim is almost identical to the racial logic used by the Nazis against Jews and other "degenerates" who were not suitable for white "Aryan" society.

As the Forward has observed, the right wing's sudden obsession with "chain migration" has sinister origins:

In very clear language, as well as in visual representation, the White House is saying that for every immigrant you see, that’s several more you don’t see. This is the way an exterminator talks about cockroach infestation. Combine this dehumanization of immigrant families with the flimsy notion that immigrants steal jobs from natural-born American citizens, and the eerily Nazi themes are clearly felt.

These concerns about Trump and his administration speak to a larger pattern. Whether or not he is consciously aware of these associations, Trump is an old-school "blood and soil" racist who believes that some racial groups have "superior genes" compared to others -- of course Trump counts himself among the superior breeding stock. He has gone so far as to suggest that a Mexican-American judge could not preside over a case because the latter's ethnic background made him inherently biased. At times, Trump, and the American far right more generally, has used violent, "eliminationist" rhetoric, as in describing nonwhite immigrants or Muslims as "snakes."

Donald Trump's political imagination is not complicated. He is a petit-fascist and racial authoritarian. He is a white supremacist. His policies and those of his principal allies reflect those attitudes and beliefs. Trump's presidency is simply an instrument for trying to make those Whiteopian dreams come true as a living nightmare for everyone else.

https://www.salon.com/2018/01/17/trumps-chain-migration-obsession-it-was-a-nazi-idea-first/


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 01, 2018, 12:01:21 AM
Trump Uses State of the Union to Launch Despicable Attacks on Immigrants (https://splinternews.com/trump-uses-state-of-the-union-to-launch-despicable-atta-1822575528)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 01, 2018, 12:09:20 AM
Trump Left Out Some Crucial Facts During His Racist MS-13 Rant (https://splinternews.com/trump-left-out-some-crucial-facts-during-his-racist-ms-1822577051)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 01, 2018, 12:12:08 AM
Fact check: Immigration doesn’t bring crime into U.S., data say (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fact-check-immigration-doesnt-bring-crime-u-s-data-say)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 01, 2018, 12:13:04 AM
Fact check: Can immigrants bring in 'unlimited' and 'distant' relatives? (https://www.nbcnews.com/card/fact-check-can-immigrants-bring-unlimited-distant-relatives-n843081)

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“Under the current broken system, a single immigrant can bring in virtually unlimited numbers of distant relatives. Under our plan, we focus on the immediate family by limiting sponsorships to spouses and minor children. This vital reform is necessary, not just for our economy, but for our security, and our future,” Trump said.

This is false. Legal immigrants can sponsor their spouses, children, parents, and siblings — but distant relatives, like cousins, cannot be sponsored for residency. The family reunification visa process takes years or even more than a decade, preventing "chains" from forming the way Trump suggests, as Politico reported in detail.

What's more, there are only so many family visas that can be granted. The numbers are capped by the U.S. government.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 01, 2018, 12:17:40 AM
FEMA To End Food And Water Aid For Puerto Rico (https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/29/581511023/fema-to-end-food-and-water-aid-for-puerto-rico)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 01, 2018, 12:20:15 AM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/d4d7045dfb0a81db941cec344910e7f5/tumblr_p3g0sm7Wd71s94fnwo1_1280.png)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 01, 2018, 01:10:19 AM
GOP rep invited alt-right activist to the State of the Union (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/371644-gop-rep-invited-alt-right-troll-to-the-state-of-the-union)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 03, 2018, 12:23:49 AM
Watch a Top Fox News Bigot's Nauseating Attempt to Exploit Police Racism (https://splinternews.com/watch-a-top-fox-news-bigots-nauseating-attempt-to-explo-1822658539)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 04, 2018, 03:00:41 AM
Trump Falsely Links Central American Immigrants to Drug Trafficking, Again (https://splinternews.com/trump-falsely-links-central-american-immigrants-to-drug-1822692216)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 04, 2018, 05:10:12 AM
The Confederate flag resurged. The KKK burned a cross. Racial tensions flared in a Southern town. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-confederate-flag-resurged-the-kkk-burned-a-cross-racial-tensions-flared-in-a-southern-town/2018/02/02/5d3da728-df86-11e7-bbd0-9dfb2e37492a_story.html?utm_term=.896bab798999)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 04, 2018, 06:30:01 PM
(https://easyyolktoo.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/white-supremacy-visual.jpg)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on February 04, 2018, 07:37:27 PM
The Confederate flag resurged. The KKK burned a cross. Racial tensions flared in a Southern town.

So, back to their Democrat roots? Shocking.

Or, was this another nothing burger, as Hillary would say, or BUSH, as Nancy Pelosi often blurts out at inappropriate times lately.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 04, 2018, 08:03:53 PM
The Trump Administration Just Made Life Easier for Racist Lenders (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/the-white-house-just-made-life-easier-for-racist-lenders.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 04, 2018, 11:24:53 PM
Holocaust denier poised to claim GOP nomination in Illinois race for Congress (https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/holocaust-denier-arthur-jones-republican-3rd-congressional-district-lipinski-newman/#.Wnd7_R4X1CI.twitter)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 05, 2018, 08:30:41 PM
Rotten Tomatoes responds to fringe group’s Black Panther review bomb threats (https://www.polygon.com/2018/2/2/16963988/rotten-tomatoes-black-panther-review-bombing-alt-right)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 07, 2018, 04:27:21 AM
The Alt-Right is Killing People (https://www.splcenter.org/20180205/alt-right-killing-people)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on February 07, 2018, 03:07:55 PM
The Alt-Right is Killing People (https://www.splcenter.org/20180205/alt-right-killing-people)

#Resist


I'm not surprised.  When you give disturbed young men a focus for their hate, and model that violence is a solution, this is what you get.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on February 07, 2018, 05:05:28 PM

J.B. Pritzker at center of new campaign firestorm for remarks during phone call with Blagojevich


http://abc7chicago.com/politics/jb-pritzker-at-center-of-new-campaign-firestorm-/3043149/
 (http://abc7chicago.com/politics/jb-pritzker-at-center-of-new-campaign-firestorm-/3043149/)





Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on February 07, 2018, 10:48:39 PM

J.B. Pritzker at center of new campaign firestorm for remarks during phone call with Blagojevich


http://abc7chicago.com/politics/jb-pritzker-at-center-of-new-campaign-firestorm-/3043149/
 (http://abc7chicago.com/politics/jb-pritzker-at-center-of-new-campaign-firestorm-/3043149/)



Not good!  And stupid too.  I would not vote for him now.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 10, 2018, 06:43:44 AM
Nebraska Basketball's Message to White Nationalist: 'Hate Will Never Win' (https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2018/02/09/nebraska-basketball-hate-will-never-win-shirts?utm_campaign=si-ncaabb&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_si)

Quote
In the videos that roiled the campus this week, biochemistry major Daniel Kleve of Norfolk professed to be the most active white nationalist in the state, disparaged Martin Luther King Jr., African-Americans and Mexicans and supported violence.

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 10, 2018, 07:07:10 AM
Look Who's Refusing to Stand During a Sporting Event Now (https://splinternews.com/look-whos-refusing-to-stand-during-a-sporting-event-now-1822871482)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on February 12, 2018, 01:51:59 AM
Ilhan Omar: No debate on 'whether Trump is a racist' (http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/upfront/2018/02/ilhan-omar-debate-trump-racist-180209162142703.html)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 12, 2018, 02:05:36 AM
Ilhan Omar: No debate on 'whether Trump is a racist' (http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/upfront/2018/02/ilhan-omar-debate-trump-racist-180209162142703.html)

President Trump is not a Racist.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 12, 2018, 04:12:50 AM
Damen Dining Faces Backlash for Black History Month Food (http://loyolaphoenix.com/2018/02/damen-dining-faces-backlash-black-history-month-food/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 13, 2018, 01:11:38 AM
For Black History Month, Boston Police Pay Tribute To White Man Who Coached Black Guys (https://deadspin.com/for-black-history-month-boston-police-pay-tribute-to-w-1822918407)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 13, 2018, 01:12:14 AM
Racist Arizona Bill Invalidates Insurance Contracts Signed by Non-English Speakers  (https://theslot.jezebel.com/racist-arizona-bill-invalidates-insurance-contracts-sig-1822928522)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 14, 2018, 05:19:39 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV4FD3iU0AAUjaH.jpg)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 14, 2018, 05:20:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV3mANlVQAA_oZ6.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV3mANhV4AA6ZPF.jpg)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on February 14, 2018, 06:26:27 PM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV3mANlVQAA_oZ6.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV3mANhV4AA6ZPF.jpg)



While I've never heard the term "otherizing" before, this guy's point is very well taken...













Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on February 14, 2018, 06:48:26 PM
I remember Reagan meeting a champion sumo wrestler and saying to him, ‘Welcome to America.’ The wrestler’s response was, ‘I’m from Hawaii.’


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 14, 2018, 10:33:02 PM
Leading Conservative Thinker Ben Shapiro Loses His Shit Over Black Panther (https://splinternews.com/leading-conservative-thinker-ben-shapiro-loses-his-shit-1823003856)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 15, 2018, 06:19:03 PM
Parents confront Chandler school board, accuse it of inaction over racial incidents (https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/chandler-education/2018/02/14/parents-confront-chandler-school-board-inaction-over-racial-incidents/338965002/?hootPostID=bd4d109dc4562397ec76e96ec4487a12)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on February 15, 2018, 09:40:05 PM
Leading Conservative Thinker Ben Shapiro Loses His Shit Over Black Panther (https://splinternews.com/leading-conservative-thinker-ben-shapiro-loses-his-shit-1823003856)

#Resist

I guess my problem with title of the article is the phrase ‘conservative thinker’.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 17, 2018, 12:27:31 AM
Fox News pundit offers bad sports take in response to LeBron James' Trump criticism (https://sports.yahoo.com/fox-news-pundit-delivers-bad-sports-take-response-lebron-james-trump-criticism-063601349.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 17, 2018, 05:41:36 AM
LeBron James blasted Donald Trump again, and Fox News couldn’t keep its mouth shut (https://www.sbnation.com/2018/2/16/17018046/lebron-james-donald-trump-fox-news-how-did-we-get-here-history-what-has-lebron-said-about-trump)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 21, 2018, 07:56:42 PM
Black Panther Is Making Conservatives Feel Profoundly Threatened (https://splinternews.com/black-panther-is-making-conservatives-feel-profoundly-t-1823189335?utm_campaign=socialflow_splinter_twitter&utm_source=splinter_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow&__twitter_impression=true)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on February 21, 2018, 11:54:45 PM
Black Panther Is Making Conservatives Feel Profoundly Threatened (https://splinternews.com/black-panther-is-making-conservatives-feel-profoundly-t-1823189335?utm_campaign=socialflow_splinter_twitter&utm_source=splinter_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow&__twitter_impression=true)

#Resist

Quite sad really. Here is a movie with a very positive message and people on the right are loosing their shit about it.  It's like they can't imagine that black people can be portrayed as anything other than thugs or villians in films.

Yes, the movie is fiction, but it provides heros that people can identify with that are smart and heroic. Black girls can be portrayed as other than whores, and they can be scientific geniuses and educational opportunities should be provided.  It provides healthy role models and this should be celebrated.

And did anyone get the two Tolkien white guys?   :emot_laughing:

Bad pun intended.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 22, 2018, 12:43:10 AM
And did anyone get the two Tolkien white guys?   :emot_laughing:

Bad pun intended.

Martin Freeman seemed to be mailing it in.  He had more energy playing Dr. Watson.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on March 01, 2018, 01:13:59 AM
President Trump is not a Racist.

AP-NORC Poll: Most Americans say Trump is racist
(https://apnews.com/9961ee5b3c3b42d29aebdee837c17a11/AP-NORC-Poll:-Most-Americans-say-Trump-is-racist?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on March 04, 2018, 01:10:12 AM
Florida Middle School Teacher Caught Hosting White Supremacist Podcast (https://splinternews.com/florida-middle-school-teacher-caught-hosting-white-supr-1823489308)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on March 11, 2018, 01:46:23 AM
The Fraudsters At Jimmy Haslam's Pilot Flying J Had Some Very Racist Takes On The Browns And Raiders (https://deadspin.com/the-fraudsters-at-jimmy-haslams-pilot-flying-j-had-some-1823672649)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on March 12, 2018, 02:21:36 AM
Bannon to French far-right party: 'Let them call you racists' (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/377755-bannon-to-french-far-right-party-wear-racism-accusations-as-a-badge)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on March 13, 2018, 12:20:55 AM
Seahawks Players Accosted By Woman: "Get Off Your Fucking Knees" (https://deadspin.com/seahawks-players-accosted-by-woman-get-off-your-fucki-1823703459)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on March 14, 2018, 02:56:15 AM
Trump Supporters Caught on Camera Threatening to Burn Down a Berkeley Bookstore (https://splinternews.com/trump-supporters-caught-on-camera-threatening-to-burn-d-1823742598)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on March 14, 2018, 02:56:59 AM
Prominent White Nationalist Matthew Heimbach Charged With Felony Domestic Battery (https://splinternews.com/prominent-white-nationalist-matthew-heimbach-charged-wi-1823744995)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on March 14, 2018, 08:36:49 AM
3 Illinois men, including one who drafted a border wall plan for Trump, charged with Minnesota mosque bombing (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-minnesota-mosque-bombing-20180313-story,amp.html?__twitter_impression=true)

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Federal authorities on Tuesday charged three men from rural central Illinois with the bombing of a Minnesota mosque last year and said one of the suspects told an investigator the goal of the attack was to "scare" Muslims out of the United States.

A statement from the U.S. attorney's office in Springfield, Illinois, says the men also are suspected in the attempted bombing of an abortion clinic. The Dar Al-Farooq Islamic Center in Bloomington, Minnesota, was bombed just before morning prayers on Aug. 5, causing a fire and extensive damage although no one was injured or killed. And there was an attempted bombing of the Champaign, Illinois, Women's Health Practice on Nov. 7.

One of the men, Michael B. Hari, 47, described in an April 2017 Chicago Tribune article how he drafted a $10 billion plan to build a wall along the border with Mexico, citing President Donald Trump's call for such a wall. Hari drew up the proposal after launching a security company, Crisis Resolution Security Services, the newspaper said.

Hari also filed a federal lawsuit just last month in central Illinois, naming the U.S. secretaries of agriculture and health and human services as defendants. It accuses their departments of violating his constitutional rights by doing the food-safety certification work that his firm, Equicert, does.

"The People of the United States have rejected the Marxist doctrine that the government shall own the means of production," he wrote, according to the court document. He requested a court order barring federal officials from interfering with his business.

The other two men charged in the mosque bombing with Hari were identified as Joe Morris, 22, and Michael McWhorter, 29. All three are from Clarence, a rural community of less than 100 residents some 35 miles north of Champaign-Urbana. A fourth man was charged with a gun offense, but he was not identified as a suspect in the bombing or attempted bombing.

A complaint said a tip in December led authorities to investigate the three men, after a person sent the local sheriff photos of guns and bomb-making material inside Hari's parents' home, where Hari often stayed. In January, a second informant told authorities that the three men had carried out the mosque bombing and the failed clinic bombing, according to the complaint.

McWhorter allegedly told an FBI agent during an interview that the three rented a pickup in Champaign and drove more than 500 miles to Minnesota with a plan to bomb the mosque, according to a criminal complaint. He said they wanted to let Muslims know they are not welcome in the United States and "scare them out of the country," according to notes taken by the FBI.

It wasn't clear from the complaint why the men may have targeted a mosque so far from Illinois.

Morris told one informant that Hari had promised to pay him and McWhorter $18,000 for participating in the mosque bombing, according to the complaint. An affidavit says the men broke a window to the imam's office and threw a pipe bomb containing black powder into the mosque. The pipe bomb exploded, causing a fire that was extinguished by sprinklers.

A witness outside the mosque heard the sound of breaking glass and saw a man get into a dark pickup truck. The truck then sped away, the affidavit said.

Minneapolis FBI Acting Special Agent in Charge Robert Bone said authorities no longer believe there is any further threat to the community in connection with this incident.

McWhorter also allegedly admitted that the three men tried to bomb the abortion clinic on Nov. 7, again renting a truck to carry out the attack. McWhorter described a PVC pipe bomb and said Morris broke a window and threw it in, where it failed to go off, according to the complaint.

The complaint also said nothing about a possible motivation for the clinic attack.

Jaylani Hussein, executive director of the Minnesota chapter of the Muslim advocacy and civil liberties group Council on American-Islamic Relations, welcomed news of the arrests.

"This is definitely a relief that this case is finally to conclusion and those assailants-slash-suspects are apprehended and no longer a threat to our community," Hussein said in a telephone interview Tuesday.

The Islamic Center primarily serves Somalis in the Minneapolis area and houses a mosque and religious school for children. Minnesota is home to the largest Somali community outside of east Africa, with an estimated 57,000 people, according to the most recent census estimates.

Mohamed Omar, the center's executive director, said at the time that the mosque didn't receive any threats beforehand or claims of responsibility afterward. The FBI had offered a $30,000 reward for information leading to a conviction in the bombing. It's unclear if the reward money will be paid.

Officials said at the time that witnesses saw someone throw something from a truck or van before the blast and saw a vehicle speed away afterward. Mosque leaders later released security video from inside the mosque that caught the moments before the explosion, and some smoke and flying debris. The video didn't show the blast itself.

Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton called the bombing an act of terrorism when he and other officials visited the mosque the day after the explosion.

"That bombing that took place last summer was a tragedy for all Minnesotans," U.S. Attorney Gregory Brooker said, adding that it remains a top priority for law enforcement.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on March 19, 2018, 06:13:01 AM
Deadly Austin bombings were ‘meant to send a message,’ police chief says (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/deadly-austin-bombings-were-meant-send-message-police-chief-says-n857786)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on March 23, 2018, 04:49:10 AM
Video Shows Sacramento Police Shooting Unarmed Black Man In Grandparents' Backyard (https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/22/596051907/video-shows-sacramento-police-shoot-unarmed-black-man-in-grandparents-backyard)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on March 23, 2018, 04:54:42 AM
Kansas militia members wanted to kill Muslims -prosecutor (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kansas-crime-somalia/kansas-militia-members-wanted-to-kill-muslims-prosecutor-idUSKBN1GY381?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5ab46b5a04d30125519382f5&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on March 29, 2018, 01:03:49 AM
Video Shows Sacramento Police Shooting Unarmed Black Man In Grandparents' Backyard (https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/22/596051907/video-shows-sacramento-police-shoot-unarmed-black-man-in-grandparents-backyard)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on April 03, 2018, 11:25:19 PM
Middle School Teacher Who Ran a White Supremacist Podcast Finally Resigns (https://splinternews.com/middle-school-teacher-who-ran-a-white-supremacist-podca-1824279691)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on April 05, 2018, 03:29:15 AM
A Georgia city proclaimed April as Confederate History Month. Then came the n-word. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/04/04/a-georgia-city-proclaimed-april-as-confederate-history-month-then-came-the-n-word/?utm_term=.b51c32d544c0)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on April 13, 2018, 01:15:06 AM
Report: Seahawks Cancelled Colin Kaepernick Visit Over Kneeling Concerns (https://deadspin.com/report-seahawks-cancelled-colin-kaepernick-visit-over-1825215023)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on April 15, 2018, 02:01:18 AM
Starbucks Apologizes Following Outrage Over Controversial Arrest Inside Store (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2018/04/14/starbucks-apology-philly-arrest/)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on April 15, 2018, 03:52:11 AM
Starbucks Apologizes Following Outrage Over Controversial Arrest Inside Store (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2018/04/14/starbucks-apology-philly-arrest/)

#Resist

When I think of all the times I’ve taken a piss in Starbucks, without buying anything... #whiteprivilege


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on April 16, 2018, 04:57:49 AM
Man pictured with Michael Cohen group last week was accused of racist threat in 1998 (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/15/michael-cohen-associate-jerry-rotonda-accused-of-making-racist-threats-1998?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other)

Black parking attendant alleged that Jerry Rotonda repeatedly used racial slurs and threatened to hit her for giving him a $20 ticket.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on April 21, 2018, 06:28:26 PM
The threat of white radical extremism in the age of Trump (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/04/20/the-threat-of-white-radical-extremism-in-the-age-of-trump/?utm_term=.0750047c7445)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 09, 2018, 11:10:21 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcsvjzhV0AAqznD.jpg)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 09, 2018, 11:11:19 PM
A hotel clerk was caught on video calling a black customer a monkey. He’s been fired. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/05/08/a-hotel-clerk-was-caught-on-video-calling-a-black-customer-a-monkey-hes-been-fired/?utm_term=.219fd17d255f)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 10, 2018, 12:09:08 AM
Congressional Republicans Are Trying to Take a 'Blue Lives Matter' Bill National Again (https://theslot.jezebel.com/congressional-republicans-are-trying-to-take-a-blue-liv-1825885161)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 11, 2018, 01:16:32 AM
It's Been a Huge Week for Black People Having Cops Called on Them for No Reason (https://splinternews.com/its-been-a-huge-week-for-black-people-having-cops-calle-1825927683)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 11, 2018, 12:46:37 PM
Advisor For Trump-Linked Nonprofit Thinks the Nazis Were Great (https://splinternews.com/advisor-for-trump-linked-nonprofit-thinks-the-nazis-wer-1825942678)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on May 11, 2018, 04:58:44 PM
It always has been alive, and.  Well, wrong.  It's just come out of the closet, along with sexual harassment, because the Twit in Chief brags about lusting after his own daughter, and grabbing women by the pussy.

It's America that's on it's deathbed.  Any survivalists on the forums?  If you have any preps to wrap up before the cascade failure of this clusterfuck, now's the time.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: IrishGirl on May 17, 2018, 04:02:48 AM
Well, uniquely we have EVERY race in America and EVERY religion...that is going to create issues no matter what.

Unfortunately we also have a unique dualism.  African-American, Irish-American, Italian-American, Swedish-American, German-American.

It is that dualism that is causing some of the problems...humans are social creatures and that means we are tribal creatures.  That dualism helps create some of the problems by exasperating us into tribes.

In fact, the more we focus on identity as a separate issue, the greater the race problem...and others...are going to collectively grow.

Focusing on identity also focuses on the separation of the people within the nation, which reinforces racism, especially when the identity becomes antagonistic in their views and demands.

Now, it won't solve the problem, but eliminating the duality in America SHOULD significantly reduce the divide.  All one needs to do is teach things as a singularity.

You are NOT Mexican-American, you ARE JUST American.  You are NOT Irish-American, you ARE JUST American.

Teaching people to think like that makes everyone equal.

The issue is, that kills politics based on identity, it kills demanding to be treated different based on their differences...and I don't think we are willing to trade identity for equality at the moment.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 17, 2018, 04:13:23 AM
#CookingOutWhileBlack: White Woman Calls Cops on Black People Cooking Out in Oakland, Calif., Park (https://www.theroot.com/cookingoutwhileblack-white-woman-calls-cops-on-black-1825920347)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 17, 2018, 04:14:21 AM
A white woman called the cops on a black real estate investor. Police defended him. (https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/5/15/17358360/white-woman-police-black-real-estate-investor-racial-profiling-memphis-michael-hayes)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 17, 2018, 04:15:07 AM
He's campaigning for governor of Georgia on a 'deportation bus' (https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/15/politics/georgia-governor-candidates-deportation-bus-trnd/index.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MintJulie on May 17, 2018, 02:22:58 PM
Customer at a store is offended that two employees are speaking Spanish to each other, and threatens to call ICE on them.   What a jerk.   (facebook video (https://www.facebook.com/eddiesuazo16/videos/1637928712991933/))


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on May 17, 2018, 02:52:24 PM
Unfortunately we also have a unique dualism.  African-American, Irish-American, Italian-American, Swedish-American, German-American.

Indian Americans, Asian American, Latin American, Native American.

You see the disparity there?  Why does Ireland, an island off the coast of England, get as much representation as African?

Why does Italian, a peninsula in the middle of 3 of the 7 seas, get as much representation as India?

Why does Germany, a mostly landlocked country that tried to take over the world, Twice, get as much cultural representation as the rest of the continent of Asia?

Why don't we have Armenian Americans, Ajerbaijani Americans, Anatolian Ameircans, Georgian Americans...

That's just the general area between the Black Sea, and the Caspian Sea.  Why is Eastern Europe divided into Country-American, when the rest of the world is rounded down to the closest Continent?

In fact, Armenians are Asians.

[ ] Middle Eastern.

That's what Race means, in America.  Africa is a race.  Egyptian is the same race as Moroccan, and Khalahari Coisan.

Asian is a race, unless your from this 1 corner, then you're Terrorist American, unless you're a Kardashian (Armenian American) in which case you're as White as Trump.  (We'll say Golden American.)  

Race is a myth, created in Europe, to rule over everyone else.  If you support the myth of race, you're supporting white supremacy.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on May 17, 2018, 03:58:41 PM

It always has been alive, and.  Well, wrong.  It's just come out of the closet, along with sexual harassment, because the Twit in Chief brags about lusting after his own daughter, and grabbing women by the pussy.

It's America that's on it's deathbed.  Any survivalists on the forums?  If you have any preps to wrap up before the cascade failure of this clusterfuck, now's the time.


I believe the precise opposite is true.

In fact, I'd argue that the U.S. today is less racist today than it has ever been in its history.

Yes, racism has always been present here, and it likely always will be present here, chiefly due to the fact, as IrishGirl points out, that we are a wildly pluralistic country, featuring people of the widest possible varieties of race, national origin, skin color, religion (or non-religion), sexual orientation, etc., etc. That will, by definition, always produce conflict in some circles.

However, the impression of an increasingly racist society -- of racists, due to Trump's explicit or implicit influence, "coming out of the closet" -- is just that: an impression. And that impression, which is belied by reality, is fueled by a combination of a mainstream media that has abandoned all pretense of objectivity and journalistic standards, and the explosion of social media outlets where ill-informed, fact-less, and, often, downright stupid observations are taken at face value, and deemed indicative of a growing trend that actually does not exist.

Consider two things:

1. We had a Black president for two terms, and, were the 25th Amendment not in place, we very likely still have a Black president today. If racism were as ingrained and pernicious as many commentators believe it to be, Obama would have never won the White House, by a comfortable margin, nor would he have been re-elected, by an equally comfortable margin. And these facts are even more germane when you consider one, simple (and obvious) fact: voting in the U.S. is done in secret. What one says, in public, online, or among friends and family members, is not necessary reflected by the actual choices one makes in the voting booth. The tenor of Obama opposition that was asserted, reported, or believed to be was contradicted by the election results.

2. More to the point, the incidents in Charlottesville, VA, last summer were, and continue to be, perceived as indicative of the phenomenon under discussion: "Racism is alive and well in Trump's America," and "racists have come streaming out of the closet and have put America on its deathbed." If you read past the headlines, and consider what actually occurred with a level head, a sense of perspective, and only a cursory understanding of U.S. history, you will reach the exact opposite conclusion. I read extensively about the incidents at the time, and have read further about them in the interim. And consider one plain fact: though estimates very depending on the source, it seems like the total number of White Supremacists, neo-Nazis, and other hate-filled reactionaries who came to the protest that day was around 250. That's right, a grand total of 250 protestors, in a country of over 325 million people (for those keeping score at home, that's 0.00007%). On top of that, the protest was planned and organized well in advance, with reactionaries traveling hundreds of miles from several states to join in. And all they could come up with was 250 people. Meanwhile, the counter-protest, which was completely unplanned and unorganized, and which arose almost spontaneously, gathered an estimated 2,500-3,000 people. All of these facts, taken together and understood objectively, say two things: Racism, at least organized racism, is slowly dying in America, and racists, at least overt racists, have been pushed deeper and deeper into the closest, and racism itself is on its deathbed.

Again, racism still exists, and it always will exist. That's a fact. But overt and organized racism has become more and more socially in-tolerated to the point that racists have completely marginalized themselves to the point of being extremist outliers.






Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on May 17, 2018, 04:37:30 PM
More to the point, the incidents in Charlottesville, VA, last summer were, and continue to be, perceived as indicative of the phenomenon under discussion:

First of all, thank you for that entire argument.  I'm not arguing with any of it, just let me clarify this point:

Nazis marching the streets 117 miles from the Capital Building seems indicative of the the problem, but let me reword the problem.

That was Tolerated.  "Tolerate intolerance" is the counter argument.  No, that's not how it works.  They weren't peacably assembled, they were Armed.  So, it was less the pictures of the protest/counter protest here than the reaction to it.  Specifically on the part of our Talking Head in Chief.

He spoke of "Both Sides" when 1 side is Nazis marching armed down the streets.  We can argue whether they're already there, or this was a backlash against the 2 terms of a black president, but they are Here, Now, and the president elected to "Make America Great Again" is telling us to be more tolerant of Nazis.

We have a Nazi Sympathiser in the white house.  We made history by electing something other than a White Man to that office, then turned around, and elected the first open Nazi Sympathiser to the same position.  

We do not tolerate intolerance here, because the Nazi theme song is Uber Alles.  Over all, totalitarian white supremacy, the whiter, the better.  They have the right to free speech, but what aren't Americans pointing out that the speech isn't just Hate, it's Anti-American.  They march hand in hand, their flag with the Rebel Flag, the other greatest enemies of America.

That's why we don't tolerate intolerance, because intolerance is Zero Tolerance, and goes against the ideals we consider the core beliefs of America.  Their goal their radical, outspoken goal, that they are working toward is to systematically destroy America.  Sedition isn't illegal, but that's why I pointed out the distance to the capital building.

Because when they brought down the Reichtag in Berlin, it was too late.  They have to be stopped now, before it's America Uber Alles, because we're already far too Over All (Of the rest of the world) for our own good.

It's not about ideology, when the ideology is ruling the world.  Starting with US.  Nobody, not even you can afford to wait until they come for you.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and only the dead have seen an end to war.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 17, 2018, 04:49:20 PM
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/l0Ex0h0heuV5fqFeU/giphy.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw4rcLDOtnU

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 17, 2018, 05:01:42 PM
The GOP is quietly crafting work requirement waivers — for white people (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gop-is-quietly-crafting-work-requirement-waivers--for-white-people/2018/05/16/fcef4eb8-5928-11e8-8836-a4a123c359ab_story.html?utm_term=.4018ebbc20f5)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on May 17, 2018, 05:10:35 PM
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/l0Ex0h0heuV5fqFeU/giphy.gif)

I feel compelled to point out that the Nazi in this animation isn't just a white man.  He's a talking head, in a suit, with a douchebang.  He's a Hipster Nazi.

One of the greatest tools of covert white supremacy is Gentrification.  Raising property values, so the "Undesirables" can't afford to life there, building housing projects (We even call them "Ghettoes") for them to live, and in America, basing school funding on Property Values.

So, his children get a better education, his neighbor's kids get to go to college, and they maintain the legitimacy to draw voting lines.  That's how it always has been done here, and it's getting worse in the current regime.  The Clown in Chief is taking so much attention, that his Secretary against Education has free-reign to teach an entire generation the ideology.

Betsy DeVos, maven of Amway, and champion for Home Schooling (For those who can afford in home childcare, and the best tutors) is indoctrinating your children.  Directly.

Now that Darth Breitbart has been discredited, she's rapidly becoming this Reich's Goebbels.

"Get them when they're young."  ~P. T. Barnum.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 17, 2018, 05:18:31 PM
HUD Secretary Ben Carson to propose raising rent for low-income Americans receiving federal housing subsidies (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/04/25/hud-secretary-ben-carson-to-propose-raising-rent-for-low-income-americans-receiving-federal-housing-subsidies/?utm_term=.ab62635f047b)

Report: Sean Hannity received HUD help on multimillion dollar property deals (http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/23/media/sean-hannity-real-estate-hud/index.html)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on May 17, 2018, 05:31:44 PM
I just have to point out that "Trump and his supporters" includes Neo-Nazis, the Klan, Westbrorough Baptist Church, and virtually every White Supremacist organization in America. 

(Also, a once American organization, the NRA is becoming increasingly White Supremacist.)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MissBarbara on May 17, 2018, 07:13:40 PM

More to the point, the incidents in Charlottesville, VA, last summer were, and continue to be, perceived as indicative of the phenomenon under discussion:


First of all, thank you for that entire argument.


I'm not sure whether you did it on purpose or not, but your response precisely proves my point. So, thank you!



Nazis marching the streets 117 miles from the Capital Building seems indicative of the the problem, but let me reword the problem.

That was Tolerated.  "Tolerate intolerance" is the counter argument.  No, that's not how it works.  They weren't peacably assembled, they were Armed.  So, it was less the pictures of the protest/counter protest here than the reaction to it.  Specifically on the part of our Talking Head in Chief.


"Nazis marching the streets 117 miles from the Capital Building" seems indicative of only one thing. When you consider the fact that there were only 250 of them -- and that's by a liberal estimate -- and the fact that not all of the 250 were Nazis or neo-Nazis, this is indicative of the fact that racism, at least organized public racism, is dying, and that these marchers were outliers.

[I'm aware that this assertion doesn't fit the narrative, but in these days when facts, data, history, and clear-headed conclusions are considered practically irrelevant, the narrative will often persist despite facts, data, history, etc.]

You used the word "tolerated" in a different sense than I did. On the one hand, I agree that Nazis, neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, and other assorted social reactionaries, marching peaceably and with a permit, should indeed be tolerated. In fact, if you truly believe in the 1st Amendment and Freedom of Speech, they should be supported. However, when these marchers break the law, in whatever regard, they have surrendered their right to march/protest, and they should be dealt with by law enforcement officials.

But I used the word "tolerated" in a completely different context. My point was that it is general social intolerance of racism, and especially overt, organized racism, that marginalizes groups like these, forces them underground, or, as in this instance, make them look like evil morons.

What the president says or believes couldn't be more irrelevant. The plain fact is that American society is moving forward, despite what the president says or believes. And yammering on social media is indicative of absolutely nothing. 



We do not tolerate intolerance here, because the Nazi theme song is Uber Alles.  Over all, totalitarian white supremacy, the whiter, the better.  They have the right to free speech, but what aren't Americans pointing out that the speech isn't just Hate, it's Anti-American.  They march hand in hand, their flag with the Rebel Flag, the other greatest enemies of America.

That's why we don't tolerate intolerance, because intolerance is Zero Tolerance, and goes against the ideals we consider the core beliefs of America.  Their goal their radical, outspoken goal, that they are working toward is to systematically destroy America.  Sedition isn't illegal, but that's why I pointed out the distance to the capital building.

Because when they brought down the Reichtag in Berlin, it was too late.  They have to be stopped now, before it's America Uber Alles, because we're already far too Over All (Of the rest of the world) for our own good.

It's not about ideology, when the ideology is ruling the world.  Starting with US.  Nobody, not even you can afford to wait until they come for you


Comparing the U.S. in 2017 with Nazi Germany in 1933 is aggressively, wildly inaccurate, and in practically every respect. Godwinning is one of the lowest -- and laziest -- forms of political discourse.

Again, you're making false historical comparisons and ignoring plain facts to engage in fear-mongering. I find it impossible not to point out that this exact type of fear-mongering based on scanty evidence is the exact same practice that these marchers, and our president, prefer to employ.

Similarly, you twice refer to a nebulous "they -- "they must be stopped..." and "not even you can afford to wait until they come for you." Who is this "they" you are speaking about?



Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and only the dead have seen an end to war.


Rolling out that tired and commonly misunderstood Santyana quote is a cliche. And citing that line out of historical context and in a non-comparable situation is both lazy and irrelevant.

Your insistence -- and the insistence of the many others who share your views -- will only succeed in reversing history and stifling progress and social advancement. I prefer to focus on positive and demonstrable signs of hope and progress, and use that to build toward the future.

But that's just me.












Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on May 17, 2018, 07:36:47 PM
I'm not sure whether you did it on purpose or not, but your response precisely proves my point. So, thank you!

I am neither agreeing, nor disagreeing your point, which is an Opinion.  Can't be proven, one way or another.  The truth is, we had closet Nazis that were emboldened, and also racists that were recruited over.  (In political backlash for having an Nword in power.)

It's not an either-or.  Every one of those 250 men were individuals, united under an anti-American cause.  How they got there is less important than how we got to the point that this is Tolerated, and protesting it (Unarmed, I might add) is less Tolerated.

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"Nazis marching the streets 117 miles from the Capital Building" seems indicative of only one thing...  this is indicative of the fact that racism, at least organized public racism, is dying, and that these marchers were outliers.

No.  They are actively rallying, tolerated, and their opposition (Antifa) are being invalidated as Terrorists.  These are the conditions where Intolerance Grows.  America is Encouraging it.

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You used the word "tolerated" in a different sense than I did.

I didn't chose the word.  I'm protesting the "Tolerate Intolerance" narrative.  If you have a better one, let me know.

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What the president says or believes couldn't be more irrelevant.

If you could turn on the news, and go 5 minutes without him being there.  Donald Trump, in particular, is the most relevant president in history.  He tweets constantly, he is the news.  Even the comedy parodies of recaps of the news of the news is is DOMINATED by his image.  This is the central focal point of an inescapable propaganda campaign.  A charasmatic leader, with a growing fanatical following, which includes Nazis.  This isn't just tolerating White Supremacy, it's dominating all media with it.  Sound familiar?

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Godwinning is one of the lowest -- and laziest -- forms of political discourse.

Not when we're talking about literal Nazis.  I'm not comparing someone (Inevitably) to Nazis, I'm pointing out the Shwasticas.  "See this, it means Not Invited" Nazis.  I pointed that out, when I pointed that out.  These are literal Nazis, comparing themselves to WWII Germany.  Not me, I'm just pointing out the Shwasticas.  Overrulled.  Uber Alles/unterselte.  NAZIs.

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Rolling out that tired and commonly misunderstood Santyana quote is a cliche.

Which one?  That was 2 Santayana quotes.  To put each other in historical context (The rise of Fascism in the Spanish Civil War.)  So, the spirit of the original quotes, in context, the opposite of Cliche.  He was talking about Faschist, the original Fascists.  In historical context.

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I prefer to focus on positive and demonstrable signs of hope and progress, and use that to build toward the future.

Look, you're an optimist, and I appreciate that.  You're onot listening to me, you're comparing me to Them.  The liberal agenda I'm not speaking for (I'm an Anarchist.)  What I'm trying to point out is the Risk here.

The risk is being taken over by Nazis, in the country with the best economic, popular, geographic, and  technological position to unite the world.  Under the Schwastica.

What's the risk of believing it's true?  Someone might think you're a liberal?  That you're an intolerant liberal? 

The world can't risk your optimism.  Not in this case.  That's what Uber Alles means.  I didn't chose Zero Tolerance.  That's their policy.

You missed a historical quote there, too.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 17, 2018, 09:58:56 PM

What the president says or believes couldn't be more irrelevant. The plain fact is that American society is moving forward, despite what the president says or believes. And yammering on social media is indicative of absolutely nothing.  

This is not true.

White House: Trump's tweets are 'official statements' (https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/trump-tweets-official-statements/index.html)

DOJ says Trump's tweets are official presidential statements (http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/government_says_trumps_tweets_are_official_presidential_statements)

His tweets are representative of the United States and the White House, according to their own statements.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: IrishGirl on May 17, 2018, 10:06:34 PM
You see the disparity there?  Why does Ireland, an island off the coast of England, get as much representation as African?

Mainly because of the Irish diaspora that hit its peak in 1847.  You want to know why the Irish get so many references in America as opposed to anywhere else?  It's because the only wave of immigration to the United States larger than the Irish immigration is the current immigration wave from Latin America.

When MILLIONS of people come over in an immigration wave they have even more millions of children and become a huge part of said country's history and heritage.

There isn't a disparity, or at least not the type you are implying, you can literally find the answer to your weighted and trolling statement in an elementary school book.

But I'll counter that with "why imply racism when someone mentions Irish-American to express how dangerous the duality of identity is in America?"

Please, Psi, be kind enough to NOT twist the shit our of people's statements to imply they mean something far removed from what they said in the future.  That game gets old fast.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on May 17, 2018, 10:57:29 PM
It's because the only wave of immigration to the United States larger than the Irish immigration is the current immigration wave from Latin America.

Not counting the Spanish conquest, (Which caused the Latin population of the current emigration) English colonisation, German/Dutch colonisation, and Africa/Carribian/Southern triangular slave trade of the early (Pre-civil war) period.

You've heard this explanation from me before.  This, counting Irish before Black is literally the basis, a core belief of White Supremacy. (Just add hierarchy.) Just like listing Irish, Italian, German, and other eastern European countries, in the same sentence as African American is a false equivalency.  

By immigration waves, or current populations, African American> Irish, Italian, and German combined.  There's a difference between preserving your cultural identity, and holding it over those who's identity has been stripped of them, for centuries.

 
Unfortunately we also have a unique dualism.  African-American, Irish-American, Italian-American, Swedish-American, German-American.

Not twisting words here.  This is the duality, not plurality, the 2 sides, in your words.  African American=/=Irish, Italian, Swedish, and German American, COMBINED.  It's not black and white, that's a false dichotomy, or equivalency, any way you slice it.

Pluratiy, if you mean plurality, then say that.  What other duality did you mean, because you have 2 choices:  Equality, or Disparity.  Those are the only 2 kinds of Dualities.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: IrishGirl on May 17, 2018, 11:07:22 PM
It's because the only wave of immigration to the United States larger than the Irish immigration is the current immigration wave from Latin America.

Not counting the Spanish conquest, (Which caused the Latin population of the current emigration) English colonisation, German/Dutch colonisation, and Africa/Carribian/Southern triangular slave trade of the early (Pre-civil war) period.

You've heard this explanation from me before.  This, counting Irish before Black is literally White Supremacy.  Just like listing Irish, Italian, German, and other eastern European countries, in the same sentence as African American is a false equivalency.  

By immigration waves, or current populations, African American> Irish, Italian, and German combined.  There's a difference between preserving your cultural identity, and holding it over those who's identity has been stripped of them, for centuries.

 

!.  No, mentioning Irish-American is NOT at all racist.
2. Mentioning African-American is NOT a "false equivalency" if the point is that ending the duality of identity and replacing it with just "American" is the point of the post.
3. The "Spanish Conquest" you are on about was in 1516...it's 2018...learn to count, it literally happened BEFORE there was even a United States proper.
4.  German, Dutch, African...what are you on about?  We are talking numbers, and the numbers say that the largest immigration waves to the United States are 1. Latinos and 2. Irish...

And, most importantly, "Fuck off you prick."  I have taken a LOT of shit from you...but I not about to sit here and politely let you equate "Irish" to "racist."  


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on May 17, 2018, 11:16:32 PM

1.  No, mentioning Irish-American is NOT at all racist.

I didn't say it was.

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2. Mentioning African-American is NOT a "false equivalency" is the point is that ending the duality of identity and replacing it with just "American" is the point of the post.

That's not duality of identity, that's Identity Politics, one of the core concepts of White Supremacy.
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3. The "Spanish Conquest" you are on about was in 1516...it's 2018...learn to count, it literally happened BEFORE there was even a United States proper.

Yes, now learn to say United States when you mean United Tates, and America when you say America.

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4.  German, Dutch, African...what are you on about?  We are talking numbers, and the numbers say that the largest immigration waves to the United States are 1. Latinos and 2. Irish...

A: Citation needed, and B: Heirarchy.

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I not about to sit here and politely let you equate "Irish" to "racist."  

Once again twisting my words.  I never said "Racist."  You did.  I said White Supremacy.  As in the one we have here.  The thread says Racist in the title, but I didn't write the title either.

When I want to call you a racist, I will call you a racist.  I'm not going to give a special exception to Ireland when I'm talking about White Supremacy.  Which is why I didn't single out Irish.  You did.

Now, we've been discussing this, just fine before you Joined this forum.  The only thing that's changed here is you.  Not my words, not my point, not my belief.  You're going to have to find someone else to call your Racist.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: IrishGirl on May 17, 2018, 11:22:58 PM

1.  No, mentioning Irish-American is NOT at all racist.

I didn't say it was.

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2. Mentioning African-American is NOT a "false equivalency" is the point is that ending the duality of identity and replacing it with just "American" is the point of the post.

That's not duality of identity, that's Identity Politics, one of the core concepts of White Supremacy.
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3. The "Spanish Conquest" you are on about was in 1516...it's 2018...learn to count, it literally happened BEFORE there was even a United States proper.

Yes, now learn to say United States when you mean United Tates, and America when you say America.

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4.  German, Dutch, African...what are you on about?  We are talking numbers, and the numbers say that the largest immigration waves to the United States are 1. Latinos and 2. Irish...

A: Citation needed, and B: Heirarchy.

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I not about to sit here and politely let you equate "Irish" to "racist."  

Once again twisting my words.  I never said "Racist."  You did.  I said White Supremacy.  As in the one we have here.  The thread says Racist in the title, but I didn't write the title either.

When I want to call you a racist, I will call you a racist.  I'm not going to give a special exception to Ireland when I'm talking about White Supremacy.  Which is why I didn't single out Irish.  You did.

Now, we've been discussing this, just fine before you Joined this forum.  The only thing that's changed here is you.  Not my words, not my point, not my belief.  You're going to have to find someone else to call your Racist.

No, I am not.  You doubled down on that shit.

And I am NOT calling you a racist.  I'm calling you a prick for implying that mentioning Irish-American is the same as being a racist.

I am literally not calling you a racist.  I'm taking grievance to your implication that Irish-American=Racist.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: IrishGirl on May 17, 2018, 11:26:59 PM

1.  No, mentioning Irish-American is NOT at all racist.

I didn't say it was.

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2. Mentioning African-American is NOT a "false equivalency" is the point is that ending the duality of identity and replacing it with just "American" is the point of the post.

That's not duality of identity, that's Identity Politics, one of the core concepts of White Supremacy.
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3. The "Spanish Conquest" you are on about was in 1516...it's 2018...learn to count, it literally happened BEFORE there was even a United States proper.

Yes, now learn to say United States when you mean United Tates, and America when you say America.

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4.  German, Dutch, African...what are you on about?  We are talking numbers, and the numbers say that the largest immigration waves to the United States are 1. Latinos and 2. Irish...

A: Citation needed, and B: Heirarchy.

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I not about to sit here and politely let you equate "Irish" to "racist."  

Once again twisting my words.  I never said "Racist."  You did.  I said White Supremacy.  As in the one we have here.  The thread says Racist in the title, but I didn't write the title either.

When I want to call you a racist, I will call you a racist.  I'm not going to give a special exception to Ireland when I'm talking about White Supremacy.  Which is why I didn't single out Irish.  You did.

Now, we've been discussing this, just fine before you Joined this forum.  The only thing that's changed here is you.  Not my words, not my point, not my belief.  You're going to have to find someone else to call your Racist.

In one thread you say that "having a job is racist"

In this thread you say that being Irish-American is racist.

I don't think you really know what that word means.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on May 17, 2018, 11:30:02 PM
I don't think you really know what that word means.
Which is why I'm not using the word Racist.  You are.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 18, 2018, 02:40:40 AM
He's campaigning for governor of Georgia on a 'deportation bus' (https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/15/politics/georgia-governor-candidates-deportation-bus-trnd/index.html)

Bigot Bus Breaks Down Before Bashing of Immigrants Begins (https://www.theroot.com/bigot-bus-breaks-down-before-bashing-of-immigrants-begi-1826120904)

I guess it got hit by the karma train.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 23, 2018, 12:46:16 AM
Miami judge who called black defendant 'moolie' faces suspension for using slurs (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article211618154.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 28, 2018, 03:39:42 AM
Sarah Gassen: I respond to reader who wants more photos of white people in the Star (http://tucson.com/opinion/local/sarah-gassen-i-respond-to-reader-who-wants-more-photos/article_07db8b71-b46c-517b-9e43-06b005eb478e.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 29, 2018, 08:01:23 PM
ABC cancels 'Roseanne' following star's racially charged comments (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-entertainment-news-updates-2018-abc-cancels-roseanne-following-star-s-1527616163-htmlstory.html)

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/989d9a0eddd5019dcf4d6e7803dd1f23/tenor.gif?itemid=3463833)

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on May 29, 2018, 08:31:01 PM
Not a fan.  I’ve met her.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 29, 2018, 09:33:38 PM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/f677bba6dfccc718e7aedc249e26789e/tumblr_p9i8z1Ioos1s94fnwo1_1280.png)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 30, 2018, 11:01:42 PM
Report: NFL Owners Admit Donald Trump Squeezed Them On Anthem Protests (https://deadspin.com/report-nfl-owners-admit-donald-trump-squeezed-them-on-1826419766)

I'm pretty sure the owners shouldn't have admitted to this even when everyone knew it was true.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 30, 2018, 11:55:06 PM
Roseanne Barr lashes out at co-stars; Trump wonders why he hasn’t gotten an apology from ABC, too (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2018/05/30/roseanne-barr-lashes-out-at-co-stars-blames-wanda-sykes-you-throw-me-under-the-bus/?utm_term=.9e7a2a70d2da)

Ambien is a hell of a drug.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 31, 2018, 02:30:51 AM
Ryan Zinke defends 'konnichiwa' comment, citing Japanese friends (https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/30/politics/ryan-zinke-konnichiwa-comment)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on May 31, 2018, 02:50:28 AM
Roseanne Barr lashes out at co-stars; Trump wonders why he hasn’t gotten an apology from ABC, too (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2018/05/30/roseanne-barr-lashes-out-at-co-stars-blames-wanda-sykes-you-throw-me-under-the-bus/?utm_term=.9e7a2a70d2da)

Ambien is a hell of a drug.

#Resist

(https://i.imgur.com/mRfChru.jpg)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on May 31, 2018, 02:54:57 AM
Oy.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 02, 2018, 03:41:28 AM
A record number of white nationalists are running for national office in 2018 (http://www.businessinsider.com/white-nationalists-running-for-office-in-2018-2018-5?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 04, 2018, 10:46:50 PM
New Sterling Brown Arrest Videos Show Police Standing On Player's Ankle, Celebrating Overtime Pay
(https://deadspin.com/new-sterling-brown-arrest-videos-show-police-standing-o-1826536762)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 05, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
Fox News apologizes after Eagles' Zach Ertz blasts national anthem 'propaganda' (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2018/06/05/eagles-zach-ertz-chris-long-fox-prayer-trump-nfl-anthem/672214002/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 05, 2018, 11:35:58 PM
Businesses should be able to 'turn away people of color,' South Dakota lawmaker says (https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/05/s-d-lawmaker-says-businesses-should-able-turn-away-customers-based-race/673317002/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 07, 2018, 11:56:58 PM
An absurd afternoon at the White House with Donald Trump, and without the Eagles (http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/mike_sielski/eagles-white-house-trump-national-anthem-fans-20180605.html)

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“We’re all staffers,” one of them said. Jenna Webster, a student at the University of Wisconsin-Madison who is interning at the Republican National Committee, said that she had received a mass email from the White House earlier in the day, inviting her to attend the event.

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Trump intended those remarks as a refutation of the concerns and complaints of those most-outspoken members of the 2017 Eagles: Malcolm Jenkins, Chris Long, Torrey Smith, others. They’re pro athletes who make millions of dollars! Things are great! They should pipe down! They should be grateful! But the funny part is, it was the president of the United States who defined our country’s present condition purely in terms of money and wealth, and it has been the Eagles’ supposedly selfish and entitled pro athletes who have been raising money for autism research and a sports complex for Haitian children, lobbying lawmakers, and donating a year’s salary to various charities. If that’s selfishness, it’s a pretty odd form of it.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 08, 2018, 12:54:20 AM
Malcolm Jenkins Says A Lot Without Saying A Thing (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/frances-macron-threatens-rare-rebuke-of-trump-at-g-7-says-us-faces-isolation/2018/06/07/f73f3de8-6a99-11e8-bea7-c8eb28bc52b1_story.html?utm_term=.d0f38041ace1)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on June 08, 2018, 01:48:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF2y5y7BxgM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF2y5y7BxgM)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 14, 2018, 01:30:56 AM
St. Petersburg police officer resigns after video shows him using racial slur (https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-south-pinellas/st-petersburg/st-petersburg-police-officer-resigns-after-video-shows-him-using-racial-slur)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 14, 2018, 01:32:38 AM
Arizona Republican Caught on Tape Ranting About How America Won't Be White Enough Soon (https://splinternews.com/arizona-republican-caught-on-tape-ranting-about-how-ame-1826809558)

Oh AZ, you so crazy (and racist.)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 17, 2018, 09:44:36 AM
 
 begin taking ESL languages at night school where you current reside.


I am raising my daughter to speak three languages. A stranger demanded I 'speak English' to her (http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-speak-english-20180616-story.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on June 17, 2018, 04:50:56 PM

 begin taking ESL languages at night school where you current reside.


I am raising my daughter to speak three languages. A stranger demanded I 'speak English' to her (http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-speak-english-20180616-story.html)

#Resist

Nice article, and a woo for posting it.

My stepdaughter raised in Poland speaks better English than I do.  When seeking an advanced degree (her second advanced degree but her first in the U.S.), she was required to take the TOEFL (test of English as a foreign language).  They informed her she scored the highest of anyone admitted to the university.  She also apparently speaks passible German, so did my wife.

She hasn’t been in touch much since her mom passed away a year ago, and seemed a bit annoyed when I told her I started dating.  I always heard from her on Father’s Day in the past, but we’ll see if I do today.  She only lives 45 minutes away too.

On another note, no one ever gave her and my wife grief when they spoke Polish in public.  But then two very white and very pretty blond women can do that, while if they were brown or black and dark haired, not speaking English might have been seen as a problem.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 21, 2018, 12:30:04 AM
‘A blowtorch to the tinder’: Stoking racial tensions is a feature of Trump’s presidency (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-blowtorch-to-the-tinder-stoking-racial-tensions-is-a-feature-of-trumps-presidency/2018/06/20/e95e71dc-73d9-11e8-805c-4b67019fcfe4_story.html?utm_term=.967b1456fc37)

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President Trump this week likened Hispanic immigrants to vermin. He warned that they would “pour into and infest our country.” And he defended his administration’s family separation policy by alleging that parents crossing the southern border with their children were poised to commit crime and murder.

For him, this language is not new.

Echoing the words and images of the white nationalist movement to dehumanize immigrants and inflame racial tensions has become a defining feature of Donald Trump’s presidency and of the Republican Party’s brand.

Trump has stirred supporters at rallies by reading “The Snake,” a parable about a tenderhearted woman who takes in an ailing snake but is later killed when the revived creature bites her. It should be heard as a metaphor for immigration, he says.

The president referred to some African nations as “shithole countries.” He posited that “both sides” were to blame for last summer’s deadly white supremacist rally in Charlottesville. And, again and again, he has accused black football players who took a knee during the playing of the national anthem to protest police discrimination of being un-American.

Among the many ways in which Trump stands out in the lineup of modern American presidents is his aversion to using his bully pulpit to unify the diverse nation he was elected to lead. Rather, he stokes cultural divisions and cultivates tribalism under the banner of his slogan, “Make America Great Again.”

“He takes a blowtorch to the tinder,” said Peter Wehner, a Trump critic who worked in the previous three Republican administrations and is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.

“For Trump and for his presidency, the culture war is central and defining — and it’s a culture war of a particular kind,” Wehner added. “It’s not the traditional culture war of gay rights and abortion. It’s a culture war that manifests itself in race and ethnicity and nationality. That is his go-to theme.”

Throughout his public life, Trump has pitted one group of Americans against another and inserted himself in racial controversies. In 1989, as a celebrity real estate developer, he took out advertisements in New York’s newspapers calling for the death penalty for five black and Latino teenagers who were wrongfully convicted of raping a white female jogger in Central Park. More recently, Trump perpetuated for five years the lie that Barack Obama was born outside the United States to delegitimize his presidency.

As he leads his party into the potentially perilous midterm election five months from now, Trump is trying to make cultural identity a central theme of the Republican pitch to voters. His messages have been amplified by his surrogates as well as by friendly broadcasters on Fox News Channel and elsewhere in the conservative media.

Trump is calculating that by playing to people’s fears and anxieties he can maximize turnout among hard-core supporters to counterbalance evident enthusiasm on the Democratic side. Fueling Trump’s approach, advisers say, is an unremitting fear of his own: that his base could abandon him if he is deemed too weak on immigration, which was a centerpiece of his 2016 campaign.

Trump’s defenders flatly reject the suggestion that he is intentionally exacerbating the nation’s cultural differences.

“Those who focus on culture and race as the perceived center of POTUS policies are either ignoring or ignorant of the root causes of the problems,” Trump campaign spokeswoman Katrina Pierson said in a text message.

Pierson, one of the few African Americans who works for Trump, said the president’s policies are “centered around law and order and prioritizing American families.” To conclude otherwise, she said, would be exhibiting “bias.”

“I think people are conditioned to see what they want (or are being told) to see in everything that he does, not what he is actually doing,” Pierson said.

Trump has said he recoils from the images, sounds and stories beaming in this week from the border. “I don’t want children taken away from parents,” he said in a speech Tuesday. Yet he otherwise was initially defiant in the face of the growing public outcry, only capitulating Wednesday after the objections had reached a fever pitch. Even then, he suggested to reporters that it was a difficult call to retreat on his policy of separating immigrant children from their parents.

“If you’re really, really pathetically weak, the country’s going to be overrun with millions of people. And if you’re strong, then you don’t have any heart. That’s a tough dilemma,” Trump said. “Perhaps I’d rather be strong. But that’s a tough dilemma.”

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), one of the party’s most hard-line voices on immigration, argued that Trump should be focusing more on culture in devising and articulating his policies.

“I don’t hear this president speaking much about race, [but] for me, there are cultural distinctions that matter,” King said. “Whenever you import large numbers of people from singular cultures, you import the culture, too. That’s why a movement towards assimilation in the broader American civilization is so important. That’s been pushed on the back burner and it should be on the front burner.”

GOP congressional leaders are plainly uncomfortable. Some of the most vulnerable House Republicans are running for reelection in swing districts where suburban voters who recoil from divisive rhetoric and policies could prove decisive.

By and large, however, they have not challenged Trump’s approach. Republicans who publicly object risk losing primary elections, being ostracized or mocked by the president. Or they find safe harbor elsewhere, as strategist Steve Schmidt, who helmed George W. Bush and John McCain’s presidential campaigns, did in announcing Wednesday that he was renouncing his membership in the Republican Party.

Before Trump’s retreat Wednesday, his advisers and allies said that the news media are covering the border situation hysterically and that there would not be long-term consequences for the president or the party.

“On a near-daily basis during the campaign, Republican operatives would spend their time freaking out about the controversy of the day,” said Andy Surabian, a former Trump campaign and White House official. “If you listened to them, you would have thought the sky was perpetually falling. The lesson of the campaign is that in Trump’s Washington, things move so fast that no single story will ever define the president, the administration or the party as a whole.”

New polls this week have shown a stark divide over the administration’s family separation policy. A Quinnipiac University poll found that American voters overall oppose the policy, 66 percent to 27 percent, mirroring other surveys.

Quinnipiac found that Republican voters support the separation policy, 55 percent to 35 percent, and that the demographic group with the deepest support is whites without college degrees.

Peter Hart, a Democratic pollster, said that in focus groups he conducted this week in Pittsburgh, many voters expressed “a sense of violation” and that women, in particular, feel empathy for the families being separated.

“This is a very unsettling time for the American voter,” Hart said. “People are unnerved, unsettled and unhappy.”

Whit Ayres, a Republican pollster who has long advocated that his party adopt a more inclusive posture to appeal to the nation’s diversifying electorate, warned that Trump’s strategy is risky.

“In a government of the people, by the people and for the people,” he said, “it helps to have a majority of the people behind what you’re trying to do.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 23, 2018, 01:36:32 AM
The dark history behind Trump’s inflammatory language (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/the-dark-history-behind-trumps-inflammatory-language/2018/06/22/54288982-7649-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e_story.html?utm_term=.20281c56c75e)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 23, 2018, 04:28:24 AM
HHS official listed work for anti-Islam show, conspiracy website on resume (https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/22/politics/kfile-hhs-official-listed-work-for-anti-islam-show/index.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on June 24, 2018, 01:05:30 AM
Racism is clearly driving Trump regime policies concerning immigration.  In order to justify it's attacks on immigrants, specifically refugees, it directed its own Department of Health and Human Services to do a study on the negative impact of refugees on the economy.  However, the study found:

... that between 2005 and 2014, refugees “contributed an estimated $269.1 billion in revenues to all levels of government” through the payment of federal, state, and local taxes — which far outweighed their cost to the country. “Overall, this report estimated that the net fiscal impact of refugees was positive over the 10-year period, at $63 billion.”

The Trump regime was not happy with these findings and tried to suppress the study, but it was leaked to the New York Times. 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/19/16333778/trump-administration-rejects-study-refugees-help-economy


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 24, 2018, 04:29:28 PM
Minnesota GOP chairwoman accuses state party leaders of racist insults (http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/393796-minnesota-gop-chairwoman-accuses-party-leaders-of-racist-insults)

Evil feeds upon itself.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 24, 2018, 04:31:03 PM
"Shoot them all at the border": DMV employee investigated for Facebook comment on immigrants (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oregon-dmv-employee-lori-mcallen-comment-about-shooting-immigrants-facebook-under-investigation/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 24, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgYrUxFUYAI_D3E.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgYrUxFVMAAmHQs.jpg)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on June 24, 2018, 06:32:40 PM
The fascism rises.

And Sarah, why do you hate capitalism?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 24, 2018, 06:55:08 PM
According to Trumpers it's ok not to bake a wedding cake for a LGBT couple.

According to Trumpers it's also not ok to refuse service to someone who's the mouthpiece for a corrupt regime.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on June 24, 2018, 07:47:50 PM
Yeah, I get it.  And, I’ve in the past said or maybe just thought some rather unflattering things about Trump supporters lumping them all in a bucket of hopelessly stupid bigots.  I’ve said things like they are so stupid, it’s hard for me to consider myself to be the same species as these people.  I’ve asked about their ability to think, wondering if critical thinking makes their head hurt, so they avoid it.

But in the end, how useful is it to have attitudes like that towards them?  What do we that oppose Trump’s policies, and feel we see him taking us in absolutely the wrong direction as a country, what do we do?  What are our options, and I mean to avoid a Trump 2020 win and Republicans retaining control of congress?  Because, it is by no means a given that they will lose like we seemed so certain of back in 2017.

Obviously it’s about voting, and what do we do about Trump supporters?
1.  We could try and kill them, but even beyond that absurdly horrific thought, they own most of the guns in this country (although I have about 30 of my own).
2. We can ignore them hoping they go away.  At least ignoring them is better than the visceral abusive hatred currently being directed at them, but it’s hardly a productive strategy.
3. We could be civil, nice, logical and persuasive and convert them?

Is there a hopeless hard nut core of Trump supporters that can’t ever be reasoned with at any level of decency until they day they die?  Yeah, but most of them are white men over 70.  But, there are many layers to his support.  Peel away those layers by being persuasive and rational, and above all by behaving in a civilized, nice and polite manner.

Because I’m going to repeat myself from an earlier post, right now the right is coming across as far nicer people than the left, and calling every Trump supporter a stupid racist is only going to further entrench them in their flawed beliefs and lead to perpetuating and accelerating the degradation of our values.  We can adopt a strategy of looking forward to smugly saying ‘I told you so’ when everything has really turned to shit so bad even they see it, or try and work towards preventing everything from turning to shit by being persuasive and nice.  We know he’s bad, help them to see it too.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 24, 2018, 08:11:19 PM
The answer is not to embrace or try to change these assholes.

A possible solution is get more people to vote who aren't these assholes.

Trumpers can go fuck themselves.

#Resist.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on June 24, 2018, 08:11:32 PM
  Well, Jed_, if you are sincere about wanting to win the hearts and minds of voters, this November and beyond, Trump supporters and not, start by being civil with all voters, and others, AND lay out the Democrat plans about what the Party is FOR, and how the Party plans to achieve their short term, and long term goals. Details will help, and if your plan and goals are what people desire, you can plan on a better share of the votes of the American people.

  Democrats/Leftist Activists, have the support of the Mainstream Media, and the far left citizens and media, which pretty much covers the meaningful media in the United States, and you tend to utilize the media very productively to date. Of course, the Mainstream Media generally is detested by a majority of Americans, and for good reason, as their bias is obvious, worn on their sleeve for any interested party to see. Still, when you wrap up the daily discourse with your Media cohorts constantly attacking any Administration activity, or policy, or action, or inaction, lol... it does make a difference... if the voter either, "feels" if we are going for "feelings", or "believes", if we go for "beliefs", that the politician they cast a vote FOR actually will work in favor of what the politician says during the campaign.

  Some hardcore Democrats, and some hardcore Republicans, may well vote the ticket, pull the D or R handle as they used to say. More thinking people who follow and care about policies may look at the history of each politician, and the history of each Party, and decide who they believe, and cast a vote in that direction.

  We shall see the results in November 2018, and again in November 2020. If Democrats continue to obstruct, without any stated plan to address issues as they arise, the mystery created can only be filled with the imagination of any voter, and voting history will likely bite them at the polls.

  Lesser of two evils, and what's in it for me, what I care about... the Economy and "is the country headed in the correct direction" become decision makers.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on June 24, 2018, 08:16:50 PM
I’m unsure which closed minded response to my post is worse.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on June 24, 2018, 08:38:45 PM
I’m unsure which closed minded response to my post is worse.

Really? Seriously? Well, that shows to me your 'open mind' is less reality than you may think it is. I suggested Democrats explain their positions, and goals, in detail. Take responsibility for what they want to actually accomplish, and how they propose to accomplish their goals.

The other is just hard boiled Antifa style, only worse, as it is fake 'antifa'.
Gutless agitation, resistance for the sake of resistance, Marxism at best.

I hope you get more replies to address your stated desire to persuade.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on June 24, 2018, 08:43:59 PM
I’m unsure which closed minded response to my post is worse.

Really? Seriously? Well, that shows to me your 'open mind' is less reality than you may think it is. I suggested Democrats explain their positions, and goals, in detail. Take responsibility for what they want to actually accomplish, and how they propose to accomplish their goals.

The other is just hard boiled Antifa style, only worse, as it is fake 'antifa'.
Gutless agitation, resistance for the sake of resistance, Marxism at best.

I hope you get more replies to address your stated desire to persuade.

Please get a vocabulary.  Snowflake.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on June 24, 2018, 08:58:42 PM
Joan, the media isn’t attacking Trump. That is what fox and Breitbart do.
The other media report what Trump does. If that means people are outraged, or that it portrays Trump in a bad light, perhaps that is because his policies and actions are so terrible.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on June 24, 2018, 09:36:35 PM
I’ve never had any trouble understanding the Democrat’s well articulated and detailed positions and goals.  I suppose that’s because I listen to what they say instead of what Fox says they are saying and aren’t saying.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 24, 2018, 09:57:05 PM
If Democrats continue to obstruct

Please explain how this is possible with Trumpers in command of all 3 branches of the federal government.

Provide examples.

Prepare to be scrutinized or withdraw this horseshit claim.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 24, 2018, 10:19:37 PM
Snowflake.

Triggered by a Time Magazine cover.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 24, 2018, 11:24:26 PM
‘You’re out of your cotton-picking mind’: A Fox News guest explains hate speech to a black man (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/24/youre-out-of-your-cotton-picking-mind-a-fox-news-guest-explains-hate-speech-to-a-black-man/?utm_term=.75e6a06e4a28)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on June 25, 2018, 03:09:34 AM
Please get a vocabulary.  Snowflake.

Oh, the irony here.  Seriously, you're telling someone, on a story board, to get a vocabulary, and all you can come up with is "Snowflake?"

Do you ever just, think about what you're going to say, before you post them, or is your bullshit detector just that broken?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 25, 2018, 03:22:57 AM
An 8-year-old tried selling water for a trip to Disneyland. A white woman threatened to call police. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/06/24/an-8-year-old-tried-selling-water-for-a-trip-to-disneyland-a-white-woman-threatened-to-call-police/?utm_term=.f0f48440322f)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on June 25, 2018, 03:35:54 AM
An 8-year-old tried selling water for a trip to Disneyland. A white woman threatened to call police. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/06/24/an-8-year-old-tried-selling-water-for-a-trip-to-disneyland-a-white-woman-threatened-to-call-police/?utm_term=.f0f48440322f)

#Resist

Re: your linked story, my question is, why will anyone ever employ Erin Ashton  (or whatever her name is), the Mom of the young person selling without a permit, after seeing the behavior and language of this 'Mom'.

No wonder she finds herself unemployed, and is out screeching for folks to buy her daughter's cold water. The kid can be understood, less so for the mom.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on June 25, 2018, 03:50:20 AM
my question is, why will anyone ever employ Erin Ashton  (or whatever her name is), the Mom of the young person selling without a permit, after seeing the behavior and language of this 'Mom'.

No wonder she finds herself unemployed, and is out screeching for folks to buy her daughter's cold water. The kid can be understood, less so for the mom.

You speaking as a prospective employer, or one of the millions of people looking for jobs under the "Your Fired" administration?

Or another judgemental conservative armchair behaviorologist moralizing for people they don't even know?

I don't think she really cared about her job prospects at the time.  My question is:  Why do you, now?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 25, 2018, 03:51:55 AM
Because wypipo.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on June 25, 2018, 04:18:50 AM
  Since you are a snide punk, generally, I will skip your question for me.

#chokeonit


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on June 25, 2018, 04:32:57 AM
Since you are a snide punk, generally, I will skip your question for me.

More ad hominem in lieu of a contribution?  Yeah, that was rhetorical anyway.  That means I wasn't expecting a meaningful answer.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on June 25, 2018, 06:04:34 AM
Since you are a snide punk, generally, I will skip your question for me.

More ad hominem in lieu of a contribution?  Yeah, that was rhetorical anyway.  That means I wasn't expecting a meaningful answer.

Sorry, psiberzerker, I misspoke.

I thought Athos had asked the question, and responded accordingly.

As an answer, just seems her seeking attention with the social sites will call attention to her attitude, and such an attitude will not lure potential employers to be even curious about hiring her, or learning more about her... just a first impression, no biggie.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on June 25, 2018, 06:36:45 AM
LOL!  I got mistaken for Pathos?  I really need to change my signature.

You guys really need to start thinking before you start lashing out at random.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on June 25, 2018, 10:45:10 AM
Please get a vocabulary.  Snowflake.

Oh, the irony here.  Seriously, you're telling someone, on a story board, to get a vocabulary, and all you can come up with is "Snowflake?"

"Snowflake" is a term that right-wingers often fling at liberals, so he was just throwing the term back.

I believe the term is meant to deride those that have a melt-down any time someone is faced with what they view as offensive.  Plenty of those on both sides.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on June 25, 2018, 03:46:35 PM
I think it would be nice if everyone stopped talking as if they’re two groups of bullies on an elementary school playground.  I’ve been guilty of the name calling too, but I’ve gotten sick of it.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on June 25, 2018, 04:20:06 PM
Agreed, and please accept my sincere apology. We agree sometimes, sometimes not, and never wanted to associate you with him in any way.

LOL!  I got mistaken for Pathos?  I really need to change my signature.

You guys really need to start thinking before you start lashing out at random.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on June 25, 2018, 06:21:34 PM
Agreed, and please accept my sincere apology. We agree sometimes, sometimes not, and never wanted to associate you with him in any way.

Well, okay, apology accepted.  I Dis/agree with just about everyone.  Nobody's 100% wrong 24/7, and Athos is a consistent prolific contributor to the discussion here.

Nobody's 100% right all the time either, and honestly trying to be is exhausting.  Again, thanks for being so understanding.

I mostly thought it was funny, because Athos goes out of his way to stand out.

#Respect.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 26, 2018, 03:14:27 AM
SEE IT: Trump supporter berates landscapers because they're 'Mexican,' calls them 'rapists and animals' (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-video-harassed-mexicans-20180625-story.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 26, 2018, 09:08:10 PM
We Have a Crisis of Democracy, Not Manners (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/opinion/trump-sarah-huckabee-sanders-restaurant-civility.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytopinion)

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Last year, the white nationalist Richard Spencer was kicked out of his Virginia gym after another member confronted him and called him a Nazi. This incident did not generate a national round of hand-wringing about the death of tolerance, perhaps because most people tacitly agree that it’s O.K. to shun professional racists.

It’s a little more complicated when the professional racist is the president of the United States. The norms of our political life require a degree of bipartisan forbearance. But treating members of Donald Trump’s administration as ordinary public officials rather than pariahs does more to normalize bigotry than exercising alongside a white separatist.

Over the last week, several Trump administration officials and supporters have been publicly shamed. On Friday night, the Trump press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders was asked to leave a farm-to-table restaurant in Lexington, Va. That morning, protesters blasted a recording of sobbing migrant kids outside the home of Kirstjen Nielsen, Trump’s secretary of homeland security.

A few days before that, Nielsen left an upscale Mexican restaurant near the White House after protesters confronted her, chanting, “If kids don’t eat in peace, you don’t eat in peace!” The Trump adviser Stephen Miller was also yelled at in a Mexican restaurant — someone called him a fascist, though he may not regard that as an insult. The same night that Sanders was denied service, Pam Bondi, Florida’s Trump-supporting attorney general, was heckled outside a movie theater where she’d gone to see a documentary about Mister Rogers. Adding to the furor, Representative Maxine Waters, a California Democrat, urged people to keep jeering at members of Trump’s cabinet when they’re out and about, saying, “You tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”


Naturally, all this has led to lots of pained disapproval from self-appointed guardians of civility. A Washington Post editorial urged the protesters to think about the precedent they are setting. “How hard is it to imagine, for example, people who strongly believe that abortion is murder deciding that judges or other officials who protect abortion rights should not be able to live peaceably with their families?” it asked.

Of course, this is not hard to imagine at all, since abortion opponents have assassinated abortion providers in their homes and churches, firebombed their clinics and protested at their children’s schools. The Roman Catholic Church has shamed politicians who support abortion rights by denying them communion. The failure to acknowledge this history is a sign of the reflexive false balance that makes it hard for the mainstream media to grapple with the asymmetric extremism of the Republican Party.

I’m somewhat agnostic on the question of whether publicly rebuking Trump collaborators is tactically smart. It stokes their own sense of victimization, which they feed on. It may alienate some persuadable voters, though this is just a guess. (As we saw in the indignant media reaction to Michelle Wolf’s White House Correspondents’ Association Dinner routine, some pundits project their own concern with Beltway decorum onto swing voters, who generally pay less attention to the news than partisans.)

On the other hand, there’s a moral and psychic cost to participating in the fiction that people who work for Trump are in any sense public servants. I don’t blame staff members at the Virginia restaurant, the Red Hen, for not wanting to help Sanders unwind after a hard week of lying to the public about mass child abuse. Particularly when Sanders’s own administration is fighting to let private businesses discriminate against gay people, who, unlike mendacious press secretaries, are a protected class under many civil rights laws.

Whether or not you think public shaming should be happening, it’s important to understand why it’s happening. It’s less a result of a breakdown in civility than a breakdown of democracy. Though it’s tiresome to repeat it, Donald Trump eked out his minority victory with help from a hostile foreign power. He has ruled exclusively for his vengeful supporters, who love the way he terrifies, outrages and humiliates their fellow citizens. Trump installed the right-wing Neil Gorsuch in the Supreme Court seat that Republicans stole from Barack Obama. Gorsuch, in turn, has been the fifth vote in decisions on voter roll purges and, on Monday, racial gerrymandering that will further entrench minority rule.

All over the country, Republican members of Congress have consistently refused to so much as meet with many of the scared, furious citizens they ostensibly represent. A great many of these citizens are working tirelessly to take at least one house of Congress in the midterms — which will require substantially more than 50 percent of total votes, given structural Republican advantages — so that the country’s anti-Trump majority will have some voice in the federal government.

But unless and until that happens, millions and millions of Americans watch helplessly as the president cages children, dehumanizes immigrants, spurns other democracies, guts health care protections, uses his office to enrich himself and turns public life into a deranged phantasmagoria with his incontinent flood of lies. The civility police might point out that many conservatives hated Obama just as much, but that only demonstrates the limits of content-neutral analysis. The right’s revulsion against a black president targeted by birther conspiracy theories is not the same as the left’s revulsion against a racist president who spread birther conspiracy theories.

Faced with the unceasing cruelty and degradation of the Trump presidency, liberals have not taken to marching around in public with assault weapons and threatening civil war. I know of no left-wing publication that has followed the example of the right-wing Federalist and run quasi-pornographic fantasies about murdering political enemies. (“Close your eyes and imagine holding someone’s scalp in your hands,” began a recent Federalist article.) Unlike Trump, no Democratic politician I’m aware of has urged his or her followers to beat up opposing demonstrators.

Instead, some progressive celebrities have said some bad words, and some people have treated administration officials with the sort of public opprobrium due members of any other white nationalist organization. Liberals are using their cultural power against the right because it’s the only power they have left, and people have a desperate need to say, and to hear others say, that what is happening in this country is intolerable.

Sometimes, their strategies may be poorly conceived. But there’s an abusive sort of victim-blaming in demanding that progressives single-handedly uphold civility, lest the right become even more uncivil in response. As long as our rulers wage war on cosmopolitan culture, they shouldn’t feel entitled to its fruits. If they don’t want to hear from the angry citizens they’re supposed to serve, let them eat at Trump Grill.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on June 26, 2018, 09:44:25 PM
We Have a Crisis of Democracy, Not Manners (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/opinion/trump-sarah-huckabee-sanders-restaurant-civility.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytopinion)




We have both.  I read this article earlier today.

And, I agree the crisis to our democracy is exponentially far worse than the one of manners.  But, unless the manners aspect is curbed on the left, Trump wins and the crisis becomes even more worse.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 27, 2018, 01:27:57 AM
These Are the 'White Moderates' MLK Warned Us About (https://theslot.jezebel.com/these-are-the-white-moderates-mlk-warned-us-about-1827119523)

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The words of Martin Luther King Jr. are usually poorly used, so much so that even invoking his wisdom onto a given situation can become a limp cliche. But it’s hard to witness the collective hand wringing from Democratic leadership and their allies and and their call for civility without considering King’s word on the white moderate in his “Letter from a Birmingham Jail”:

First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

The modus operandi of King’s white moderate is the playbook of Democratic Party and centrist, Democrat friendly media establishments: Play nice; invoke the importance of civility to those who have none; don’t make too much noise, and distance yourself from those who do.

Who is this for?

A cursory glance at Twitter and anecdotal discussions with friends don’t represent the full spectrum of Americans who are depending on the Democratic Party (reluctantly or otherwise) to right some of the Trump administration’s wrongs. But it feels safe to deduce that if these calls for “civility” were meant for the Democrats’ base, they seem to be falling on frustrated ears. “Be nice to administrative collaborators and and conspirators of a sickening child separation domestic policy” is a demoralizing hill for Democrats to die on.

Constituents aren’t calling for powerful Democrats to support some kind of campaign of bloodlust, but they are tired of Democrats being spineless and more concerned with maintaining decorum than seeking justice. As a (good) Washington Post op-ed by former Gizmodo Media Group Special Projects Desk Deputy Editor Tom Scocca published Tuesday made plain, “fretting about ‘civility’ is a luxury for pundits.” It’s also the luxury of elected officials who can easily suggest that frustrated constituents just calm down and vote when their careers and schmoozy relationships with Republican counterparts on the hill depend on it. These are the “white moderates” MLK warned us about.

There’s something absurdly out of touch about party leaders, 2020 hopefuls, and pundits taking the time to dampen the harmless catharsis of seeing those who are paid to defend Trumps most shameful policy decisions being shamed in non-violent acts of direct action. It’s tone policing a constituency that is sick of the atrocities this administration gets away with, wagging the finger at those who don’t feel morally compromised by tales of powerful administration officials being mildly inconvenienced at restaurants.

The condescension and ahistorical comparisons won’t galvanize voters to the polls this fall. And if the Democrats continue to encourage their base to quell the peaceful, righteous anger of their base, they deserve to lose.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on June 27, 2018, 01:32:03 AM
Trump’s VA pick, once a defender of Confederate symbols, built his career serving polarizing figures (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-va-pick-a-longtime-aide-to-polarizing-politicians-has-defended-extreme-views/2018/06/26/d74affde-69d8-11e8-9e38-24e693b38637_story.html?utm_term=.4d1437921057)

Quote
He started as a young aide to Jesse Helms (R-N.C.), the five-term Senate firebrand who denounced Martin Luther King Jr. and once called gay people “weak, morally sick wretches.” He served as a top aide to Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.), who lost his leadership post after defending a fellow senator’s segregationist campaign for president decades earlier. And he joined the inner circle of former defense secretary and Iraq War architect Donald H. Rumsfeld before returning to the Pentagon last year to run military personnel policy for the Trump administration.

Throughout, Wilkie showed a willingness to fight on the front lines of his bosses’ culture wars. Earlier this year he led efforts to justify Trump’s near wholesale ban on transgender troops. In 1997, he rebutted a Democratic proposal to ensure equal pay for working women. And in 1993, he publicly defended a failed push by Helms to support an organization whose logo included the Confederate flag.

Wilkie grew up visiting U.S. battlefields with his father and developed a lifelong fascination with military history, including that of his ancestors, who fought for the Confederacy. He was, as recently as 2005, a fixture at the annual memorial ceremonies in Washington held by descendants of Confederate veterans around the birthday of Jefferson Davis. Wilkie also was a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, a group that defends public displays of the Confederate symbols.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on June 27, 2018, 02:42:39 AM
Wilkie?  Ah, fuck.  As if the VA didn't have enough problems to begin with.  

{I grew up in NC during the Helms era.  My dealer in Angier had a photo of him with Jesse, smoking a joint.  Jesse wasn't smoking the joint, my dealer was, but he had the fucking Senator for Johnston County RIGHT THERE!  Not a fake.  Tobacco is the #1 Legal cash Crop.  Johnston County Sherrifs would pull you over, and smoke your weed, right in front of you, to teach you a lesson.

"Where'd you get this from, Boy?  This McClendon's?"

"Yeah, Earl.  This tastes like McClendon's new batch."

The same dealer got a call, from the same Sheriff's Department to tell them the DEA was in town.  So, he'd call us, and we'd go out to help him pull the camo nets over his field.  Then, we'd wave from the porch at the Helicopter flying over.  True story!}


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: xXshepXx on June 30, 2018, 09:43:23 AM
SEE IT: Trump supporter berates landscapers because they're 'Mexican,' calls them 'rapists and animals' (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-video-harassed-mexicans-20180625-story.html)

#Resist

This quote I found yesterday sums it up nicely
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If you think that Mexico is only sending drug dealers and rapists,
but also worry that Mexicans are going to take your job...

What the fuck do you do for a living?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on July 01, 2018, 04:37:45 AM
I’d like to caution the comparisons to Nazis and Hitler.  It’s not that such comparisons don’t fit at all when applied in the various threads either to public figures or possibly even forum members, but we’ve all become tone death as soon as we hear them (even those of us that use these comparisons).  I know my eyes glaze over and I stop paying attention as soon as I hear or read a comparison to Nazis or Hitler.

I once read in Guns & Ammo magazine of all places such a caution.  It was applied to statements, posters and bumper stickers popular with gun rights advocates about how Hitler and the Nazis implemented gun registration in Germany prior to the war.  It seems the author of the article couldn’t find any evidence the statements were true.  He went on to say something I found to be profound:  You can tell who has lost an argument, as they are the first to bring up a comparison to Hitler or Nazis.

Besides, I always thought Trump was a lot more like Mussolini, or perhaps Ceaușescu.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on July 01, 2018, 04:58:11 AM
The unfortunate thing is, Joan posts like Goebbels would. The comparison is very apt.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: galaxybounce on July 01, 2018, 09:50:53 AM
You can tell who has lost an argument, as they are the first to bring up a comparison to Hitler or Nazis.

I'm not sure this is always true, but definitely the first to mention Nazi Germany is the first to drop all pretense of attempting to make an actual argument. It means nothing.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 01, 2018, 07:34:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg4IEfmW0AE_Id9.jpg)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on July 01, 2018, 09:16:55 PM
"  You're  ".  Fixed that for you.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg4IEfmW0AE_Id9.jpg)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 02, 2018, 12:19:21 AM
I guess you lied -again- when you said you were ignoring my posts.

This is as hilarious as the two times you thought The Onion was real news.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 04, 2018, 06:58:07 PM
Someone Called the Cops on a Black State Representative for the Crime of Campaigning (https://splinternews.com/someone-called-the-cops-on-a-black-state-representative-1827342959)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 04, 2018, 07:15:29 PM
9 hurt, 4 critically, as man stabs refugee families at Boise low-income apartments (https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article214144964.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on July 04, 2018, 10:16:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg4IEfmW0AE_Id9.jpg)

 :emot_laughing: :facepalm:

Yeah, you get a Woo for that.

I'm going to say it one more time:  If the Nazis, and the Klan support your immigration policies, you need to rethink them, because they're fucking Racist.

In other news, duh.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on July 05, 2018, 08:00:57 PM
My new girlfriend is from Peru.  Her beautiful face has features that are Native America/Asiatic in a way I recently heard described as Aztec-ie looking, except Inca-ie would be a geographically better term since the Aztecs were in Mexico.  Regardless, her features unmistakably show an origin from south of the U.S. border.

It’s been sunny around here finally the last couple weeks.  Yesterday with her partially bare legs in my lap and her hand in mine while we chatted with her family, I commented on how dark she had gotten just in the the last month.  When we first met a couple months ago her skin tone already made me look like some pale creature from a cave, but now she is really brown.

We spent the day with some of her family.  Spanish was being spoken very frequently especially to her mom.  My girlfriend’s English is excellent, although she still doesn’t think so.

All of this had (and has) me wondering when I’m going to have to deal with some Trumper giving her grief.  I feel like it’s inevitable she’ll be accosted in my presence about her legal status (she’s here legally 9 years now), or for speaking Spanish, or for looking like a ‘Mexican’, or for just plain being too brown.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on July 05, 2018, 09:30:53 PM
You are projecting, Jed_. Sensitive about the difference in how you and she look when together, and presuming the worst will occur at some random time, and further that whatever you expect to happen will be the fault of Trump.

Please change or add to your sources of enlightenment, and relax.
You are fearing, expecting even, a ignorant person will make a untoward statement or comment toward your friend, and before such a thing happens are prepared to blame Donald Trump for your imagined slight.

Who did you blame prior to 2015? Or you just were not concerned, then?

Better you deal with the reality of where we are, look at your Tax Bill, your Paycheck, your ability to upgrade your job position, should that be of interest, the lack of aggression by North Korea (albeit temporary, better than it was), and HOPE for a better future for America, GDP finally above 3%, headed to 5% according to some, which used to be 'normal', and perhaps can return there.

Are there people who make racial comments? Of course there are. They were here in 2015 and before, and still exist, having nothing to do with Trump.

Turn off the agitating MSM news, relax, and enjoy your girlfriend.

My new girlfriend is from Peru.  Her beautiful face has features that are Native America/Asiatic in a way I recently heard described as Aztec-ie looking, except Inca-ie would be a geographically better term since the Aztecs were in Mexico.  Regardless, her features unmistakably show an origin from south of the U.S. border.

It’s been sunny around here finally the last couple weeks.  Yesterday with her partially bare legs in my lap and her hand in mine while we chatted with her family, I commented on how dark she had gotten just in the the last month.  When we first met a couple months ago her skin tone already made me look like some pale creature from a cave, but now she is really brown.

We spent the day with some of her family.  Spanish was being spoken very frequently especially to her mom.  My girlfriend’s English is excellent, although she still doesn’t think so.

All of this had (and has) me wondering when I’m going to have to deal with some Trumper giving her grief.  I feel like it’s inevitable she’ll be accosted in my presence about her legal status (she’s here legally 9 years now), or for speaking Spanish, or for looking like a ‘Mexican’, or for just plain being too brown.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on July 05, 2018, 09:54:32 PM
For a couple generations now the racists elements get emboldened every time a Republican is elected president, but this last time that phenomenon is on steroids.  It’s not subliminal anymore, Trump outright validates those feelings in those people and makes them confident it’s acceptable.  Only the truely obtuse refuse to see it.

Btw, I’m not the least little bit self-conscious of any racial differences when we are in public holding hands.  It was something that hit me just like I said while sitting with her family and thinking about the accumulating racial incidents out there.  And I don’t project or think about our differences other than I’m really jealous how easily she tans.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on July 05, 2018, 11:50:35 PM
  So let me sum things up, Jed_.

  Nothing racist to report. Enjoying time with your GF and her family.

  You so hate Trump, that he is 'in your head', and you cannot help yourself, but to think of all the worst possible things happening to your GF, while you are with her, no less... yet, nothing has happened.

  I hope she does not have such mind bending worries, and is not pre-reporting about her fears online somewhere.

  I certainly hope you find yourself disappointed, as you await what you think to be the inevitable verbal attack, from a yet unknown, and yet unseen person who happens to feel differently than you do about Hillary... and Trump...

  I know you don't like to talk about your love of Hillary, but it applies here, as most who voted for Donald Trump simply voted against Hillary, and dodged that bullet, and our President's actions, and kept promises for that matter, are a welcomed change from what many feared with Hillary just being the entitled one to carry out the third term of Obama, more of what you seemed to like.

  So, Trump is the anti-Hillary, and the rest means little.

  Be sure to let us know if some Antifa thug sprays you and your GF with gas and pepper spray, by accident of course, they meant it for the white guy next to you, of course, as you well know.

  Otherwise, I take it you have NOTHING to contribute to Assthos Thread, and I hope you never find anything to report. Still is worth doing some thinking on, as to why you would dream up a calamity to befall you and those you love.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 05, 2018, 11:58:51 PM
Once again the racist is hijacking this thread by making her racism and Trump's about Hillary.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 06, 2018, 12:00:04 AM
Illinois Governor Refuses to Tell Voters to Back a Democrat Over a Literal Nazi (https://splinternews.com/illinois-governor-refuses-to-tell-voters-to-back-a-demo-1827358980)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on July 06, 2018, 12:32:56 AM
Once again the racist is hijacking this thread by making her racism and Trump's about Hillary.

#Resist


Yeah I know, and making it personal with my ‘love of Hillary’.  LOL, I never even think of Hillary unless Trump or one of his mindless minions brings her up as a scapegoat in their latest fuck ups.  If joan wants to know my opinion of Hillary Clinton, it’s I can’t believe she fucked up that election and lost to the biggest jackass ever to run for any office let alone the office of POTUS.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on July 06, 2018, 12:53:15 AM
  No one said Hillary was racist. Jed_ did not say anyone is racist, only that he fears racism may come to his girlfriend, some day while he is with her, and IF that ever might happen, Jed_ thinks that person would be a "Trumpist".

  So, no racism in Jed_'s story, and as usual, no racism in my reply. And no racism by President Trump having to do with this thread, and Jed_'s GF.

  I understand why no one wants to defend their love of Hillary Rodham Clinton or her Democrat National Committee, or her Clinton Presidential Campaign. No one wants to associate with a loser, and a second time loser for this office at that. Hillary does not do well with thinking people, who pay attention, and want the best for America.

  Thank God she will never be our President. After the Statutes of Limitation run their courses, which seems to be the current plan for all involved, and after the first Clinton Impeachment records are released by the National Archives about six years from now, maybe we can then find 'common ground' about the Clintons, and especially about Mrs. Clinton.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 06, 2018, 12:59:54 AM
AP NewsBreak: US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits (https://apnews.com/38334c4d061e493fb108bd975b5a1a5d/AP-NewsBreak:-US-Army-quietly-discharging-immigrant-recruits?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 06, 2018, 01:18:57 AM
President Trump is not a Racist.

49 percent of voters think Trump is racist, new poll finds
(http://abc11.com/49-percent-of-voters-think-trump-is-racist-new-poll-finds/3711062/)

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 06, 2018, 01:22:04 AM
President Trump is not a Racist.

Trump’s racist views have not gone unnoticed (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/07/05/trumps-racist-views-have-not-gone-unnoticed/?utm_term=.29021772a045)

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 06, 2018, 01:30:28 AM
Donald Trump is Not Making White People More Racist, He's Making Them Act More Racist (https://www.theroot.com/donald-trump-is-not-making-white-people-more-racist-he-1827368992)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 06, 2018, 02:30:27 AM
President Trump is not a Racist.

Trump mocks #MeToo movement in riff on Elizabeth Warren's heritage during Montana rally (https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/05/politics/trump-montana-rally-pruitt-resigns/index.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on July 06, 2018, 06:49:27 AM
Joan, your assumption that you are not projecting racist comments is unwarranted. You are indeed being racist in your twisted restating of Jed’s post. YOU make it a racist comment when from the second paragraph on.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on July 06, 2018, 08:20:24 PM
  No one said Hillary was racist. Jed_ did not say anyone is racist, only that he fears racism may come to his girlfriend, some day while he is with her, and IF that ever might happen, Jed_ thinks that person would be a "Trumpist".

  So, no racism in Jed_'s story, and as usual, no racism in my reply. And no racism by President Trump having to do with this thread, and Jed_'s GF.

  I understand why no one wants to defend their love of Hillary Rodham Clinton or her Democrat National Committee, or her Clinton Presidential Campaign. No one wants to associate with a loser, and a second time loser for this office at that. Hillary does not do well with thinking people, who pay attention, and want the best for America.

  Thank God she will never be our President. After the Statutes of Limitation run their courses, which seems to be the current plan for all involved, and after the first Clinton Impeachment records are released by the National Archives about six years from now, maybe we can then find 'common ground' about the Clintons, and especially about Mrs. Clinton.


Do you even read the posts you respond to?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on July 06, 2018, 08:35:08 PM
President Trump is not a Racist.



His narcissism transcends racism.  It isn’t about anything but Donald Trump.  If you worship him, he will try and get you what you want to keep the adoration coming, so he can continue to bask in the glow of it.  He really doesn’t want to do anything but attend rallys and get his fix.

The racists worship him, so he can’t bring himself to criticize them and he promises them a useless wall. If it were Mexicans worshipping him, it would be open borders.  OK not quite of course, since he and his agenda have largely been manipulated by sociopathic racists like Bannon and Miller.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on July 07, 2018, 12:12:20 AM
His narcissism transcends racism.

Kind of.  He's an equal opportunity bigot, but the kind of (Entitlement Malignant) Narcissist that has to make himself feel superior by stomping down inferiors.  So, it's not a Narcissism<or>Racism/Sexism thing.  He's a Racist Chauvenistic Narcissist.  His self image is underpinned by the Ubermench mentality, which is why his hate speech, policies, and hiring/firing policies are so racist, sexist, and classist.  He also makes fun of people with disabilities.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 07, 2018, 08:32:04 AM
He's an equal opportunity bigot, but the kind of (Entitlement Malignant) Narcissist that has to make himself feel superior by stomping down inferiors.  So, it's not a Narcissism<or>Racism/Sexism thing.  He's a Racist Chauvenistic Narcissist.  His self image is underpinned by the Ubermench mentality, which is why his hate speech, policies, and hiring/firing policies are so racist, sexist, and classist.  He also makes fun of people with disabilities.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/1OW5bjf19I1ry/giphy.gif)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 07, 2018, 08:33:23 AM
Suspect In Charlottesville Car Attack Pleads Not Guilty To Hate Crimes Charges (https://www.npr.org/2018/07/06/626486232/suspect-in-charlottesville-car-attack-pleads-not-guilty-to-hate-crimes-charges)

Justice for Heather Heyer.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 07, 2018, 09:17:42 AM
White House official’s wife tweeted about n-word, anti-vaccine conspiracies from now-deleted account: report (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/07/06/white-house-officials-wife-tweeted-about-n-word-anti-vaxx-conspiracies-from-now-deleted-account-report/?utm_term=.3ad577e72c34)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 07, 2018, 09:23:06 AM
Bill Shine’s Wife Darla Complained She Couldn’t Use N-Word and Spread Conspiracy Theories About ‘Blacks’ (https://www.mediaite.com/online/bill-shines-wife-complained-she-couldnt-use-n-word-and-spread-conspiracy-theories-about-blacks/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 09, 2018, 05:16:10 PM
California Prosecutor Caught Posting Repulsive and Violent Comments About Maxine Waters (https://splinternews.com/california-prosecutor-caught-posting-repulsive-and-viol-1827437764)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 09, 2018, 09:59:55 PM
Woman fired for calling police on black man wearing socks in pool (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/erica-walker-memphis-woman-fired-calling-police-black-man-wearing-socks-pool-2018-07-09/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=54058136)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 11, 2018, 02:38:16 AM
A man harasses a woman for wearing a Puerto Rico shirt, saying it's 'un-American' (https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/10/us/illinois-puerto-rico-park-officer/index.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on July 12, 2018, 03:44:26 AM
A man harasses a woman for wearing a Puerto Rico shirt, saying it's 'un-American' (https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/10/us/illinois-puerto-rico-park-officer/index.html)

#Resist
i guess wearing a shirt with a Texas flag on it is un-American too.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on July 15, 2018, 12:11:21 AM
#Texit

If you threaten to secede (try try again?) repeatedly because you lost your election (#ThanksObama) then you waive the right to call anything "UnAmerican"  If you march with anyone carrying the "Rebel" flag, or with a Schwastica anywhere on your person, you are standing up to be counted with those against everything America was founded for.

"So you can point that fucking finger up your ass."

~M. Keenan.

Sincerely;

Your surly neighborhood Hooker with a Penis.  {Waves from Waco}


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 19, 2018, 12:07:17 AM
Kentucky governor under fire after saying black kids playing chess 'not something you necessarily would have thought of' (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/396949-kentucky-governor-under-fire-after-saying-kids-playing-chess-at)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 19, 2018, 12:07:49 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dh_LOZCXkAAUA-9.jpg)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on July 19, 2018, 07:12:43 AM
Kentucky governor under fire after saying black kids playing chess 'not something you necessarily would have thought of' (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/396949-kentucky-governor-under-fire-after-saying-kids-playing-chess-at)

#Resist

I'm actually surprised anyone plays chess anymore. Kids have cell phones and video games these days.  I'm glad that school kids are still playing.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 22, 2018, 05:16:30 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dil3ME2VsAEb_7T.jpg)

Trumpers voted for them.  They want these people in office.

Please don't normalize Trumpers.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 22, 2018, 05:17:23 PM
Trump and Russia used race to divide America. Now it's a national security problem. (https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/07/19/putin-trump-race-divide-americans-2016-election-interference-column/799765002/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 22, 2018, 05:17:57 PM
City of Clayton, Mo., Apologizes to 10 Black Students Wrongly Accused of Dining and Dashing (https://www.theroot.com/city-of-clayton-mo-apologizes-to-10-black-students-w-1827754652)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 22, 2018, 05:18:37 PM
GOP congressman said blacks have 'entitlement mentality' and view themselves as victims (https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/politics/kfile-jason-lewis-racial-comments/index.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on July 22, 2018, 05:24:13 PM
Dead Letters: Special All–Papa John Edition (https://deadspin.com/dead-letters-special-all-papa-john-edition-1827723186)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on July 23, 2018, 01:05:17 AM
Racism doesn't die.  Sometimes it just tries to be subtle.  "I don't want to sound racist, but;" is basically obsolete.  They just came back out of the closet.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 06, 2018, 12:50:20 PM
White Americans Are Biggest Terror Threat in U.S.: Study (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/white-americans-are-biggest-terror-threat-u-s-study-n380931)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 07, 2018, 02:59:08 AM
Sikh Man Attacked, Told To ‘Go Back To Your Country’ In Stanislaus County (https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/08/06/sikh-man-attacked-told-to-go-back-to-your-country-in-stanislaus-county/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 07, 2018, 03:05:23 AM
White Nationalists Love Corey Stewart. He Keeps Them Close. (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/us/politics/corey-stewart-virginia.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytpolitics)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 07, 2018, 03:06:39 AM
LeBron James to Produce Docu-Series ‘Shut Up and Dribble’ for Showtime (https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/lebron-james-shut-up-and-dribble-showtime-1202896065/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 07, 2018, 01:42:26 PM
The spot where Emmett Till’s body was found is marked by this sign. People keep shooting it up. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/08/05/the-spot-where-emmett-tills-body-was-found-is-marked-by-this-sign-people-keep-shooting-it-up/?utm_term=.1da2de1812af)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 10, 2018, 12:56:27 AM
Laura Ingraham: America as we know it doesn’t exist anymore due to ‘demographic changes’ (http://thehill.com/homenews/media/401044-laura-ingraham-america-as-we-know-it-doesnt-exist-anymore-due-to-demographic)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 15, 2018, 02:56:25 AM
President Trump is not a Racist.

Sarah Sanders says she 'can't guarantee' there's no tape of Trump using the N-word (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/sarah-sanders-says-she-can-t-guarantee-there-s-no-n900701?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: wayne3218 on August 15, 2018, 05:17:56 AM

Wish we had someone like Thrump in Australia


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 15, 2018, 12:45:28 PM
You're well on record with this.  You should probably keep those views to yourself.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Sensualtravler on August 15, 2018, 09:03:17 PM
You're well on record with this.  You should probably keep those views to yourself.

#Resist

LMAO!!  Don't Pay any attention to Athos Wayne. He and the other  Democrats here (if you hadn't noticed by now, most here are are are members from the left , and Anarchists, still weeping over having no better candidate than Hillarious to run against Donald.) As for his threat to keeping your views to yourself, that can be ignored also. Regardless of the lefts attempt to to eliminate free speech in the US, we sill have the 1st amendment to say what we wish and state our opinions. Why would someone who wears stupid and silly hats want to pay attention to them anyway?  :emot_rotf:


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 15, 2018, 09:58:32 PM

LMAO!!  Don't Pay any attention to Athos Wayne. He and the other  Democrats here (if you hadn't noticed by now, most here are are are members from the left , and Anarchists, still weeping over having no better candidate than Hillarious to run against Donald.) As for his threat to keeping your views to yourself, that can be ignored also. Regardless of the lefts attempt to to eliminate free speech in the US, we sill have the 1st amendment to say what we wish and state our opinions. Why would someone who wears stupid and silly hats want to pay attention to them anyway?  :emot_rotf:

Go Fuck Yourself.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on August 15, 2018, 10:07:57 PM

Wish we had someone like Thrump in Australia


Feel free to take him. He might need asylum soon.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Darkseid80 on August 15, 2018, 10:52:04 PM
Racism doesn't die.  Sometimes it just tries to be subtle.  "I don't want to sound racist, but;" is basically obsolete.  They just came back out of the closet.

To me, the "undercover" racists are the scarily effective ones. The corporate executive, the police officer, the authority figures. When I see White Nationalist gatherings on the news or photos online, they look silly and pathetic to me. They are publicly promoting a cause that is antisocial. Very few people are watching them parade around with tiki torches and going: "You know, I've never been prejudiced before, but these guys make it look pretty promising. (yells into the next room) Sweetie? Brenda? Let's be racist now."


Racism is the effect of limited education and fear, and it is eternal.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on August 16, 2018, 01:57:30 AM
You're well on record with this.  You should probably keep those views to yourself.

#Resist

LMAO!!  Don't Pay any attention to Athos Wayne. He and the other  Democrats here (if you hadn't noticed by now, most here are are are members from the left , and Anarchists, still weeping over having no better candidate than Hillarious to run against Donald.) As for his threat to keeping your views to yourself, that can be ignored also. Regardless of the lefts attempt to to eliminate free speech in the US, we sill have the 1st amendment to say what we wish and state our opinions. Why would someone who wears stupid and silly hats want to pay attention to them anyway?  :emot_rotf:
yet it was the POTUS who advocated the silencing of speech.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on August 16, 2018, 05:15:17 AM
The Fist Amendment prohibits the GOVERNMENT from silencing speech. Private individuals are well within their rights to object to certain speech, protest against it, deny private platform usage for types of speech.
That’s called freedom of speech in a capitalist venue.

What you see practiced here is the pure form of liberal philosophy, sensualtraveler.
This site allows your views to be expressed, and all are free to comment, object, or agree.

I have been on other sites, archncnservative sites, where your political views are rampant. And there theybban any and all liberal philosophy, and even dissent. Those who do not totally agree with them are banned.

So I think you really should examine your fellow-travelers a lot more closely. And thank God that we are indeed liberals.

“I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to death your right to say it.”
The Friends of Voltaire
Evelyn Beatrice Hall


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: wayne3218 on August 16, 2018, 06:12:41 AM
WOW, I’ve just been given my first Boo and told “Go Fuck Yourself, Racist” by Athos_131


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 16, 2018, 07:56:38 AM
And?

This thread is about Trump, his supporters, his enablers and his racism from all of them.  You came out saying you like Trump.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: wayne3218 on August 16, 2018, 08:10:08 AM
And?

This thread is about Trump, his supporters, his enablers and his racism from all of them.  You came out saying you like Trump.

#Resist
Just because I support Thrump doesn’t make me a Racist, or are you saying all Thrump supporters are Racists.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 16, 2018, 08:11:20 AM
And?

This thread is about Trump, his supporters, his enablers and his racism from all of them.  You came out saying you like Trump.

#Resist
Just because I support Thrump doesn’t make me a Racist, or are you saying all Thrump supporters are Racists.


You figure it out.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 19, 2018, 06:51:32 PM
Uganda police arrest US citizen after viral video shows attack on hotel workers (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/402498-us-citizen-arrested-in-uganda-after-attacking-hotel-workers-in)

It's bad enough to be an asshole here, but now our State Department -whose Secretary was appointed by a racist- will waste tax money and resources to get this shirtbird out of jail.

This embarrassment of a human being should rot wherever they leave him.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MintJulie on August 19, 2018, 07:52:58 PM
Uganda police arrest US citizen after viral video shows attack on hotel workers (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/402498-us-citizen-arrested-in-uganda-after-attacking-hotel-workers-in)

It's bad enough to be an asshole here, but now our State Department -whose Secretary was appointed by a racist- will waste tax money and resources to get this shirtbird out of jail.

This embarrassment of a human being should rot wherever they leave him.

#Resist

That man is despicable.  What a hateful racist jerk.  To treat another human being like that.  Ugh.   The US should not spend one penny trying to help that man.   He brought it on himself.  Let him deal with it himself.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on August 20, 2018, 01:48:40 PM
Uganda police arrest US citizen after viral video shows attack on hotel workers (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/402498-us-citizen-arrested-in-uganda-after-attacking-hotel-workers-in)

It's bad enough to be an asshole here, but now our State Department -whose Secretary was appointed by a racist- will waste tax money and resources to get this shirtbird out of jail.

This embarrassment of a human being should rot wherever they leave him.

#Resist

No one Appoints a Sec of State.

The Commander in Chief Nominates, and the Congress confirms for Cabinet.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 20, 2018, 05:16:10 PM
Uganda police arrest US citizen after viral video shows attack on hotel workers (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/402498-us-citizen-arrested-in-uganda-after-attacking-hotel-workers-in)

It's bad enough to be an asshole here, but now our State Department -whose Secretary was appointed by a racist- will waste tax money and resources to get this shirtbird out of jail.

This embarrassment of a human being should rot wherever they leave him.

#Resist

No one Appoints a Sec of State.

The Commander in Chief Nominates, and the Congress confirms for Cabinet.


Duties of the Secretary of State
(https://www.state.gov/secretary/115194.htm)

Quote
The Secretary of State, appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate, is the President’s chief foreign affairs adviser.

Stop lying.

The fact still remains his boss is a fucking racist.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 21, 2018, 03:35:06 AM
Fox News’ Katie Pavlich: Ocasio-Cortez Barring Press From Event Signals She’s ‘Harboring’ Illegal Immigrants (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-katie-pavlich-ocasio-cortez-barring-press-from-event-signals-shes-harboring-illegal-immigrants/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 21, 2018, 03:38:14 AM
Trump speechwriter fired amid scrutiny of appearance with white nationalists (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-speechwriter-fired-amid-scrutiny-of-appearance-with-white-nationalists/2018/08/19/f5051b52-a3eb-11e8-a656-943eefab5daf_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d972f70f957e)

I wonder which is the bigger revelation, that Trump has a speech writer or they actually fired a racist.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 24, 2018, 02:05:29 AM
Georgia School Superintendent Placed on Leave After Allegedly Launching Into Racist Rant (https://splinternews.com/georgia-school-superintendent-placed-on-leave-after-all-1828552839)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 24, 2018, 02:06:18 AM
The Republican Party Is Existentially Racist (https://splinternews.com/the-republican-party-is-existentially-racist-1828549116)

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 24, 2018, 02:07:10 AM
‘Dangerous and poisoned’: Critics blast Trump for endorsing white nationalist conspiracy theory on South Africa (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dangerous-and-poisoned-critics-blast-trump-for-endorsing-white-nationalist-conspiracy-theory-on-south-africa/2018/08/23/6c3b160e-a6df-11e8-a656-943eefab5daf_story.html?utm_term=.652386e4260f)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 24, 2018, 12:43:47 PM
Update: Goodwin Sentenced to 8 Years, Ramos Gets 6 Years in Harris Attack (http://www.nbc29.com/story/38946913/scheduled-sentencing-goodwin-ramos-08-23-2018)

Two very fine people goin' to the Graybar Hotel.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 29, 2018, 01:17:33 AM
Isakson, Perdue seek to slow debate over renaming Russell Building (https://politics.myajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/isakson-perdue-seek-slow-debate-over-renaming-russell-building/dAu5tDOUffYDO6Nt6jRf6O/)

Quote
But he was also a segregationist who used his mastery of the chamber’s procedures to filibuster the 1964 Civil Rights Act and oppose bills banning lynching and abolishing the poll tax.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on August 29, 2018, 03:05:31 AM
Isakson, Perdue seek to slow debate over renaming Russell Building (https://politics.myajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/isakson-perdue-seek-slow-debate-over-renaming-russell-building/dAu5tDOUffYDO6Nt6jRf6O/)

Quote
But he was also a segregationist who used his mastery of the chamber’s procedures to filibuster the 1964 Civil Rights Act and oppose bills banning lynching and abolishing the poll tax.

#Resist

'....But he was also a Democrat who used his mastery of the chamber’s procedures to filibuster the 1964 Civil Rights Act, along with Senator Al Gore Sr., and oppose bills banning lynching and abolishing the poll tax. Thank God the Republicans were there to get the 1964 Civil Rights Act passed....'
--------------
Fixed That For You..


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on August 29, 2018, 05:05:19 AM
Lol, and the current Republican Party would never support a leftist bill like the Civil Rights Act today.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 30, 2018, 12:02:45 AM
DeSantis says Floridians can't 'monkey this up' by electing African-American Democrat as governor (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/desantis-floridians-monkey-electing-african-american-democrat-governor/story?id=57476957)

He wasn't even the GOP nominee 24 hours.  Who advises these people?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on August 30, 2018, 03:10:27 AM
Definition of monkey with

informal
: to handle or play with (something) in a careless way : to monkey around with (something) I told you not to monkey with the lawn mower.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/monkey%20with

DeSantis says Floridians can't 'monkey this up' by electing African-American Democrat as governor (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/desantis-floridians-monkey-electing-african-american-democrat-governor/story?id=57476957)

He wasn't even the GOP nominee 24 hours.  Who advises these people?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 30, 2018, 03:12:58 AM
U.S. is denying passports to Americans along the border, throwing their citizenship into question (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/us-is-denying-passports-to-americans-along-the-border-throwing-their-citizenship-into-question/2018/08/29/1d630e84-a0da-11e8-a3dd-2a1991f075d5_story.html?utm_term=.b41209549b5e)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 30, 2018, 03:17:34 AM
Vermont Lawmaker Withdraws From Election After Racist Threats (https://www.necn.com/news/new-england/Vermont-Representative-Kiah-Morris-Withdraws-From-Election-After-Racist-Threats-491921211.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 30, 2018, 03:29:02 AM
Democratic Embrace of Diverse Candidates Collides With Barbed Politics of Trump Era (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/29/us/politics/race-politics-trump.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 30, 2018, 12:32:38 PM
Definition of monkey with

informal
: to handle or play with (something) in a careless way : to monkey around with (something) I told you not to monkey with the lawn mower.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/monkey%20with

Bless your heart.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on August 30, 2018, 06:02:07 PM
Definition of monkey with

informal
: to handle or play with (something) in a careless way : to monkey around with (something) I told you not to monkey with the lawn mower.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/monkey%20with

Bless your heart.

#Resist

Thank you.

https://youtu.be/n-3_l5iWTP0


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 31, 2018, 12:22:39 AM
Jamil Smith: How Many More Racist Trump Policies Will America Normalize? (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-revoke-passports-717750/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 31, 2018, 12:31:00 AM
Ron DeSantis Was Reportedly an Admin of Racist Facebook Page (https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/ron-desantis-outed-as-administrator-of-racist-conspiracy-sharing-facebook-page-10682854)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 31, 2018, 11:36:48 PM
Homeland Security staffer with white nationalist ties attended White House policy meetings (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/homeland-security-staffer-with-white-nationalist-ties-attended-white-house-policy-meetings/2018/08/30/7fcb0212-abab-11e8-8a0c-70b618c98d3c_story.html?utm_term=.a45efe2fd31e)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on August 31, 2018, 11:43:56 PM
In Hilton Head mayor race, 1 candidate a ‘Holocaust revisionist.’ Another admires Hitler. (https://www.postandcourier.com/news/in-hilton-head-mayor-race-candidate-a-holocaust-revisionist-another/article_75d0d3f0-ab91-11e8-b01b-b3d8f85f28e5.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 02, 2018, 07:19:04 PM
County GOP secretary called black NFL players ‘baboons’ in Facebook post (http://www.timesonline.com/news/20180830/county-gop-secretary-called-black-nfl-players-baboons-in-facebook-post)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 02, 2018, 07:47:44 PM
‘We Negroes’ robocall is an attempt to ‘weaponize race’ in Florida campaign, Gillum warns (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/01/an-appalling-robocall-racism-invades-floridas-governors-race-second-time-this-week/?utm_term=.3d1cf290df61)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 04, 2018, 01:34:53 AM
The ‘Trump effect’ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2018/09/02/feature/the-trump-effect-how-a-norm-scrambling-presidency-is-changing-the-way-one-s-c-subdivision-talks-about-race/?utm_term=.16b886b4626a)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 05, 2018, 03:43:38 AM
People Are Destroying Their Nike Gear Because Of Colin Kaepernick (https://deadspin.com/people-are-destroying-their-nike-gear-because-of-colin-1828798521)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on September 05, 2018, 08:00:45 AM
People Are Destroying Their Nike Gear Because Of Colin Kaepernick (https://deadspin.com/people-are-destroying-their-nike-gear-because-of-colin-1828798521)

#Resist

As a liberal, I don’t feel like I’m being owned enough. I suggest they keep playing with fire on their property, just to show just how strong-willed and patriotic they are.  Maybe some lighter fluid and a blow torch.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 05, 2018, 12:46:50 PM
‘The Bible is about white people,’ he wrote. Then he confessed to killing his black roommate. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/09/05/bible-is-about-white-people-he-wrote-then-he-confessed-killing-his-black-roommate/?utm_term=.f2a1e51d687b)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 06, 2018, 03:04:53 AM
Cardinals safety Antoine Bethea says Nike’s Colin Kaepernick ad speaks volumes (https://theathletic.com/507767/2018/09/05/cardinals-safety-antoine-bethea-says-nikes-colin-kaepernick-ad-speaks-volumes/)
(paywall)

Quote
The​ Cardinals’​ Antoine Bethea decided to​ treat​ himself​ to​ a new​ car​ in 2010.

He​ and his father, Larry,​ drove to​ a dealership​ in​​ Bethea’s hometown in Newport News, Virginia where he purchased an Audi R8 right off the truck. Bethea got in the car and his dad followed him in his own car to WalMart, where Bethea was going to purchase a couple of screws so he could affix the license plate to the back of the car.

But as Bethea drove into the parking lot, three unmarked cars suddenly surrounded his new Audi. One car parked in front of him, another to the side of him and a third behind him.

An undercover police officer got out of one of the cars and, according to Bethea, asked, “What do you do?”

“I’m like, ‘Why does it matter?’” said Bethea. “Why does it matter?”

The police officer told Bethea the car had been reported stolen, which mystified Bethea because he had just bought the car minutes earlier. That’s when it hit him: He was being racially profiled.

“This is the city I grew up in,” Bethea said. “Now when they approach you like that, you feel some kind of way. Now I got to check my emotions. I’m fuming inside. I’m fuming inside. Why does it matter what I do for a living? You just lied to me and said this car was reported stolen. No it’s not. It was just because guys like me were not driving that kind of car.”

Bethea said the situation was finally resolved when his father, then a deputy sheriff, pulled out his credentials to show the officers.

“It’s disheartening, man,” Bethea said.

Nike’s announcement Monday that former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick would be the face of its “Just Do It” ad campaign sparked a firestorm on social media. Some people, angered by Nike’s decision to associate itself with Kaepernick, who began kneeling during the national anthem in 2016 to protest perceived social injustices against black, burned their Nike gear in protest. Bethea, a teammate of Kaepernick’s in San Francisco from 2014-16, applauded Nike’s decision.

“I think it was huge man, what Nike did,” he said. “The reason I say that to you is we’re all human beings. We all want to be treated equally. That’s what this whole process was about. Equality. So for them to come out there and do this and have ‘Kaep’ as the face, I think it speaks volumes.”

It angers Bethea that Kaepernick’s cause has been hijacked for political motives. He said that after Kaepernick first kneeled during the anthem before a 2016 preseason game, several of the 49ers veterans asked him to stand up in front of the team and explain why he was kneeling.

“There were some people that felt a certain type of way, but after he got up and spoke intelligently and broke down the facts of why he was doing it, people might have disagreed but they understood. It was loud and clear why he was doing it.”

Those who say Kaepernick was protesting the flag or the anthem are either uninformed or being purposefully ignorant, Bethea said.

“You know sometimes how you’re arguing with somebody and all they want to do is pick out that small little topic you’re talking about but they’re not looking at the big picture?” Bethea said. “That’s the unfortunate thing.

“There’s been video out there (of injustices against African-Americans). Documentation is out there. It’s not right and people still want to make it against the flag. They still want to make it against the military. It’s not about that. It’s about the fact that as a black man, me having a young black son when he leaves the house, I have to have these types of conversations that I really shouldn’t have to have. That’s what it’s about. I have to have different conversations with my son than you (a white reporter) will have with your son.”

Bethea believes the criticism of Kaepernick has a racist element to it. Asked whether the reaction would have been different had Patriots quarterback Tom Brady taken a knee during the anthem, Bethea replied: “It would have been totally different. Totally different.”

Bethea is hopeful that the Nike campaign – which features a black-and-white picture of Kaepernick’s face with the message, “Believe in something. Even if means sacrificing everything.” – will change how some people view Kaepernick. In his mind, the former 49ers quarterback is a hero being blackballed by the NFL for standing up to injustice.

“I’ve been reading the comments, ‘What did he sacrifice?’ He sacrificed his livelihood,” Bethea said. “You can ask anyone, ‘If you spoke up for something and it meant you would lose your job, would do you it?’ Most people would be like, ‘I would not do it.’

“I’m hoping 10 years, 15 years down the line people will be talking about Kap differently.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 07, 2018, 03:41:48 AM
Unapproved O’Rourke text message asks for ‘undocumented immigrant’ vote (https://www.statesman.com/news/unapproved-rourke-text-message-asks-for-undocumented-immigrant-vote/ry1ohq1Am99nFqv78pcwtL/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 08, 2018, 10:15:12 PM
Boycotting Nike: Sports Store Selling All Nike Gear At 50% After Kaepernick Ad (https://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/09/06/boycotting-nike-sports-store-selling-all-gear-kaepernick-ad/)

Slashing your inventory at a loss to own the libs.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on September 09, 2018, 01:03:40 AM
Unapproved O’Rourke text message asks for ‘undocumented immigrant’ vote (https://www.statesman.com/news/unapproved-rourke-text-message-asks-for-undocumented-immigrant-vote/ry1ohq1Am99nFqv78pcwtL/)

#Resist

It just shows how desperate the racists are.  They have no real ideas or platform.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 09, 2018, 07:56:44 PM
College of Caucasity: A Peek into the Missouri School That Dropped Nike Over its Colin Kaepernick Ad (https://www.theroot.com/college-of-caucasity-a-peek-into-the-missouri-school-t-1828919267)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 10, 2018, 04:26:32 AM
GOP candidate for Fla. governor spoke at racially charged events (https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/gop-candidate-for-fla-governor-spoke-at-racially-charged-events/2018/09/09/c6d3a63c-b114-11e8-a810-4d6b627c3d5d_story.html?utm_term=.54a5bf72abfd)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 12, 2018, 02:32:38 AM
There Is Nothing More American Than Burning Your Dumb Sneakers (https://deadspin.com/there-is-nothing-more-american-than-burning-your-dumb-s-1828812098)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 14, 2018, 01:07:05 AM
N.R.A. Show Puts Thomas the Tank Engine in White Hood to Criticize Diversity Move (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/12/us/nra-tv-thomas-tank-engine.html#click=https://t.co/OBtnQr51IR)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 14, 2018, 02:22:30 AM
Dallas Station Fox4 Blasted for Report on Marijuana Found in Apartment of Man Killed By Cop in His Own Home (https://www.mediaite.com/online/dallas-station-fox4-blasted-for-report-on-marijuana-found-in-apartment-of-man-killed-by-cop-in-his-own-home/)

And here we go.  When 4th Amendment was clearly violated, they chose to attack the victim.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on September 14, 2018, 03:59:19 AM
Dallas Station Fox4 Blasted for Report on Marijuana Found in Apartment of Man Killed By Cop in His Own Home (https://www.mediaite.com/online/dallas-station-fox4-blasted-for-report-on-marijuana-found-in-apartment-of-man-killed-by-cop-in-his-own-home/)

And here we go.  When 4th Amendment was clearly violated, they chose to attack the victim.

#Resist

Guilty of being black.  Shot by a blonde female, which describes 80% of the Fox News team.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 18, 2018, 04:29:59 PM
Donald Trump Conveniently Ignores Anniversary of One of America's Worst Acts of Terror (https://www.theroot.com/donald-trump-conveniently-ignores-anniversary-of-one-of-1829092395)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 21, 2018, 12:21:18 AM
New racial controversy batters DeSantis (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/20/ron-desantis-florida-racial-issues-830726)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 21, 2018, 12:21:58 AM
"I felt humiliated": Black candidate campaigning door to door gets police called on her (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shelia-stubbs-black-candidate-campaigning-door-to-door-in-wisconsin-gets-police-called-on-her/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 21, 2018, 12:23:14 AM
Texas School Superintendent Gets Racist On Facebook About Deshaun Watson (https://deadspin.com/texas-school-superintendent-gets-racist-on-facebook-abo-1829171001)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on September 21, 2018, 07:33:00 AM
Texas School Superintendent Gets Racist On Facebook About Deshaun Watson (https://deadspin.com/texas-school-superintendent-gets-racist-on-facebook-abo-1829171001)

#Resist

I loved the comment:  “When you need precision racism, you can always count on a middle-aged white bumpkin.”


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on September 24, 2018, 07:03:02 AM
Nearly 20% of Trump Fans Think Freeing the Slaves Was a Bad Idea (http://time.com/4236640/donald-trump-racist-supporters/)

I suspect the actual number is higher.   :facepalm:


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 27, 2018, 01:36:05 AM
Texas attorney general opposing teen who refused to stand for Pledge of Allegiance (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-texas-pledge-of-allegiance-20180925-story.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on September 28, 2018, 10:46:23 PM
Texas attorney general opposing teen who refused to stand for Pledge of Allegiance

Uh!   :roll:  Yup!  'roundere, going through the motions of Patriotism is more important than standing up for whatall the Founding Fathers, and American Heros stood, and died for.

And is slightly less important than High School Football.  "...One nation, under gawduh.  Indivisible..." unless they elect a darkie for president...

I ferget the rest.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on September 30, 2018, 02:47:01 AM
Trump anti-discrimination official faces rebellion at agency over racially tinged blog posts (https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/trump-anti-discrimination-official-faces-rebellion-at-agency-over-racially-tinged-blog-posts/2018/09/28/ed5b8e6a-c351-11e8-97a5-ab1e46bb3bc7_story.html?utm_term=.98c72c80757f)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 01, 2018, 09:12:10 PM
Black Senate Candidate in Mississippi Faces Republican With Confederate Flag on His Lawn Signs (https://splinternews.com/black-senate-candidate-in-mississippi-faces-republican-1829429800)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 01, 2018, 09:13:50 PM
Duncan Hunter Airs Ad Suggesting Opponent Is Terrorist Sympathizer (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/us/politics/duncan-hunter-attack-ad.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 07, 2018, 12:10:23 AM
Swastikas painted on Northern Virginia Jewish community center (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/swastikas-painted-on-northern-virginia-jewish-community-center/2018/10/06/3c964968-c972-11e8-b1ed-1d2d65b86d0c_story.html?utm_term=.7dbd404ca672)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 10, 2018, 12:50:50 AM
DeSantis Wrote Book Excusing Slavery, Complaining About Women's Rights (https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/floridas-ron-desantis-wrote-book-excusing-slavery-10809091)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 10, 2018, 12:54:56 AM
GOP official on Davids: radical socialist, lesbian will be sent back to reservation (https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article219720280.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 11, 2018, 03:06:29 PM
EPA chief ‘liked’ a blatantly racist meme about the Obamas. He says he doesn’t remember. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/energy-environment/2018/10/09/epa-chief-liked-blatantly-racist-meme-about-obamas-he-says-he-doesnt-remember/?utm_term=.5176a805192c)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 14, 2018, 12:22:34 AM
Videos Allegedly Show Proud Boys Beating Protesters After Gavin McInnes Event At Manhattan GOP Club (http://gothamist.com/2018/10/13/proud_boys_beating_video.php)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 14, 2018, 12:23:38 AM
USA Gymnastics Appoints Interim CEO And She Has A Take On Nike And Colin Kaepernick [Update] (https://deadspin.com/usa-gymnastics-appoints-interim-ceo-and-she-has-a-take-1829732973)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 17, 2018, 01:37:37 AM
Yet Another Campus Chapter of the Conservative Diaper Group Is Into Super Racist Memes (https://splinternews.com/yet-another-campus-chapter-of-the-conservative-diaper-g-1829782573)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 17, 2018, 01:38:04 AM
Lindsey Graham says it would be, ‘like, terrible’ if a DNA test found that he had Iranian heritage (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lindsey-graham-says-it-would-be-like-terrible-if-a-dna-test-found-that-he-had-iranian-heritage/2018/10/16/0de362e6-d169-11e8-83d6-291fcead2ab1_story.html?utm_term=.13589514a45d)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 23, 2018, 02:44:37 AM
Woman Harasses Family for Speaking Spanish in Virginia Restaurant (https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Woman-Harasses-Family-for-Speaking-Spanish-in-Virginia-Restaurant-498051241.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 24, 2018, 03:27:29 AM
‘I thought it was very nice’: VA official showcased portrait of KKK’s first grand wizard (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-thought-it-was-very-nice-va-official-showcased-portrait-of-kkks-first-grand-wizard/2018/10/23/f49434ca-d6c0-11e8-aeb7-ddcad4a0a54e_story.html?utm_term=.16d7c8768d3c)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 24, 2018, 04:22:51 PM
Guess Mr. Thomas, Democrat, hired in 2013 during the previous Administration, will need a new decorator for his office. Wonder what print will now occupy the custom lighted space on the wall?

‘I thought it was very nice’: VA official showcased portrait of KKK’s first grand wizard (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-thought-it-was-very-nice-va-official-showcased-portrait-of-kkks-first-grand-wizard/2018/10/23/f49434ca-d6c0-11e8-aeb7-ddcad4a0a54e_story.html?utm_term=.16d7c8768d3c)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 26, 2018, 04:42:35 PM
2 killed in Kroger shooting in Kentucky; store to remain closed Thursday (http://www.wave3.com/2018/10/24/shooting-reported-jeffersontown-kroger/)

Quote
One witness told WAVE 3 News that the shooter at one point said “whites don’t kill whites.”

Police: Shooting suspect tried to access black church
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-too-soon-to-say-if-shooting-was-racial-attack/2018/10/25/28d14c9c-d8b9-11e8-8384-bcc5492fef49_story.html?utm_term=.a6097ba8e2ef)

Quote
After releasing a photo of the suspect, authorities received a tip from an employee of the city of Jeffersontown who said he thought he saw Gregory Bush outside the First Baptist church prior to Wednesday’s shooting, city police chief Sam Rogers said. The video confirmed Bush’s presence, Rogers said. The church is headed by a black pastor and has a large African-American membership.

Bush “appeared to try to gain access to the church,” Rogers said.

The information came as news media outlets reported that Bush made a racial comment after the deadly shooting at a Kroger in Jeffersontown, a city of about 26,600 people on the outskirts of Louisville.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on October 28, 2018, 08:54:11 PM
It's been a week of deadly hate.  Bombs sent in the mail, and shootings of black and Jewish people.

Thank you Trump.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on October 29, 2018, 04:49:30 PM
Is inciting your base to kill your political opponents, Jewish people and African Americans the latest plan to distract us from the Russian investigation?

Probably not, or it would have been planned to start on Nov 7.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 30, 2018, 06:59:38 PM
Trump eyeing executive order to end birthright citizenship, a move most legal experts say runs afoul of the Constitution (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-eyeing-executive-order-to-end-citizenship-for-children-of-noncitizens-born-on-us-soil/2018/10/30/66892050-dc29-11e8-b3f0-62607289efee_story.html?utm_term=.bdf9faa5ea70)

This is why Rapist Kavanaugh was railroaded on to the bench.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on October 30, 2018, 07:07:31 PM
Trump eyeing executive order to end birthright citizenship, a move most legal experts say runs afoul of the Constitution (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-eyeing-executive-order-to-end-citizenship-for-children-of-noncitizens-born-on-us-soil/2018/10/30/66892050-dc29-11e8-b3f0-62607289efee_story.html?utm_term=.bdf9faa5ea70)

This is why Rapist Kavanaugh was railroaded on to the bench.

#Resist
Isn’t it amazing that this idiot thinks he can alter a Constitutional Amendment?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on October 30, 2018, 07:23:39 PM
Isn’t it amazing that this idiot thinks he can alter a Constitutional Amendment?

I'm not even surprised.  This isn't even the first time that Donald "Take the guns, then go to court" refused to read the Constitution before he opened his mouth.

He doesn't think.  He's incapable of it.  He has no filter, he doesn't fire up the neurons, he just reacts.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 30, 2018, 07:31:50 PM
Isn’t it amazing that this idiot thinks he can alter a Constitutional Amendment?

He can do it if Rapist Kavanaugh says he can.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on October 30, 2018, 07:36:29 PM
He can do it if Rapist Kavanaugh says he can.

1: not until he's sworn in, and B: only if the other 8 Justices agree with them.  Oh, and then they have to run it by Congress to have another Amendment passed, but that probably won't be the hard part.  

#ChecksAndBalances

PS:  Alleged Rapist.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 30, 2018, 07:47:52 PM
He can do it if Rapist Kavanaugh says he can.

1: not until he's sworn in, and B: only if the other 8 Justices agree with them.  Oh, and then they have to run it by Congress to have another Amendment passed, but that probably won't be the hard part.  

1.)  He's already been sworn in.

2.)  Trump needs a majority not all 9.

3.)  Nice try.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 30, 2018, 08:01:43 PM
https://artvoice.com/2018/08/08/thelist-developed-countries-that-give-birthright-citizenship/

Has nothing to do with Race, or Nation of Origin, has to do with Practical and original application of the Amendment from it's inception, until the 1960s.

The Amendment was conceived in order to do the right thing for former/freed Slaves and their direct descendants, as Citizens of the United States of America.

  Such interpretation of our 14th Amendment puts us in good standing with many developed Nations, who once 'gave away' their Citizenship, and have since, very rationally, adjusted their view. In a world with jet travel, other high speed travel, such as trains, busses, even plentiful automobile/highway access, there is no need, nor benefit, for such carte blanch treatment of aliens, legal and illegal, and their progeny.

  Illegal entry of aliens must negate such birthright claims under existing law and this should need no revision to language, only a rational review of reality.

  Borders, Language, Customs are meaningful, and necessary for all Nations, and their Citizens. Little has been done to push the interpretation of SCOTUS in recent times, and is long overdue.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 30, 2018, 08:03:51 PM
Large Wall Of Racist Text.

I'm curious racist, do you have your parents' birth certificates?  You're not an American then.  Please depart the country.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 30, 2018, 10:04:00 PM
Pence sets off firestorm with campaign prayer by 'Christian rabbi' (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/pence-sets-firestorm-campaign-prayer-christian-rabbi-n926016)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 30, 2018, 11:30:54 PM
Every American gets to pray, or not, in her/his own manner, to her own God(s) or not. It is what we do... Vice President Pence is no different in this regard as is shown, same for President Trump, and for their respective family members.

Pence sets off firestorm with campaign prayer by 'Christian rabbi' (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/pence-sets-firestorm-campaign-prayer-christian-rabbi-n926016)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 30, 2018, 11:31:59 PM
Every American gets to pray, or not, in her/his own manner, to her own God(s) or not. It is what we do... Vice President Pence is no different in this regard as is shown, same for President Trump, and for their respective family members.

You just like being offensive.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: IdleBoast on October 31, 2018, 12:09:14 AM
Every American gets to pray, or not, in her/his own manner, to her own God(s) or not. It is what we do... Vice President Pence is no different in this regard as is shown, same for President Trump, and for their respective family members.

Pence sets off firestorm with campaign prayer by 'Christian rabbi' (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/pence-sets-firestorm-campaign-prayer-christian-rabbi-n926016)

#Resist

But democratically-elected representatives are supposed to represent those that democratically elected them.

They are not supposed to go on record as saying they will base their policies on the bible rather than the wishes of the electorate.

Believe what you want, but it's a really bad idea to run your country according to the rules of a tribe of bronze-age goat-herders, interpreted by the inventors of an iron-age death-cult.




Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on October 31, 2018, 12:11:55 AM
The Romans had steel. (Pretty much why they ruled the Iron-Age.) Just saying, other than that, a completely accurate description.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on October 31, 2018, 12:45:17 AM
  The headline the asshole cited should give a clue, 'campaign prayer' is clearly noted. A campaign event is not "governing", but "campaigning" and people will believe what they wish to believe, about how Vice President Pence will govern.

  The Bible is not a bad place to begin, when discussing prayer. For a Christian.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 31, 2018, 01:05:05 AM
  The headline the asshole cited should give a clue, 'campaign prayer' is clearly noted. A campaign event is not "governing", but "campaigning" and people will believe what they wish to believe, about how Vice President Pence will govern.

  The Bible is not a bad place to begin, when discussing prayer. For a Christian.

God, you're stupid and racist.

Mike Pence Is Under Fire for Appearing with a Fake Rabbi to Commemorate the Pittsburgh Shooting (https://www.gq.com/story/mike-pence-fake-rabbi)

Quote
Messianic Judaism "is not recognized as Jewish by any mainstream Jewish movement in the United States, or by the Chief Rabbinate, the supreme spiritual authority for Judaism in Israel." Per their own website, one of their goals is converting Jewish people to believe that Jesus is the messiah.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on October 31, 2018, 01:12:56 AM
'Trump's deporting your illegal cousins,' man tells Houston woman in racist rant captured on video (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2018/10/27/trumps-deporting-illegal-cousins-man-tells-houston-woman-racist-rant-captured-video)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 31, 2018, 05:35:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYCFeCyJ5Q4

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on October 31, 2018, 08:52:45 PM
Militia offers to help stop caravan raise concern at border (https://www.apnews.com/6cb0dae384cd45ddb9efe49a6aab1789)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on October 31, 2018, 09:50:04 PM
Militia offers to help stop caravan raise concern at border (https://www.apnews.com/6cb0dae384cd45ddb9efe49a6aab1789)

 :emot_laughing:

What could possibly go wrong?  I say let them do it, can't be any worse than getting the Hell's Angels to run security at a hippy concert, and would save taxpayers a lot of money on deporting the women, keeping the children.  I'm pretty sure that's the current Immigration policy isn't it?

 :roll:


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Elizabeth on October 31, 2018, 10:21:09 PM
Just What This Country Needs......A Border War........."NOT".........
The Donald Needs To Shut Up And Stop This Before That's Exactly What Happens.
The Military with a defined purpose and Hot Head Militias at the border (with guns no less).....now the question is "who do you think will fire the first shot"..??

Love,
Liz
 


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on October 31, 2018, 11:21:24 PM
Militia offers to help stop caravan raise concern at border (https://www.apnews.com/6cb0dae384cd45ddb9efe49a6aab1789)

What could possibly go wrong?  I say let them do it, can't be any worse than getting the Hell's Angels to run security at a hippy concert, and would save taxpayers a lot of money on deporting the women, keeping the children.  I'm pretty sure that's the current Immigration policy isn't it?

Oh nothing could go wrong at all, except maybe random shooting of brown people that look like my girlfriend regardless of legal or citizenship status.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on November 01, 2018, 12:39:36 AM
Now that would be interesting. The malicious firing on active duty military. That would  certainly put an end to militias.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 01, 2018, 12:56:22 AM
Angry racists with guns egged on by Trump?

What could possibly go wrong?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 01, 2018, 01:52:53 AM
Oh nothing could go wrong at all, except maybe random shooting of brown people that look like my girlfriend regardless of legal or citizenship status.

Did I not clearly mark that as sarcasm?  Sorry, Poe's Law.  I'll make sure to put a smiley in next time.  ;)  Thought maybe comparing to Altamont would give that away, but MM.  

I know, send the military they're already assembling to protect the refugees from the Militia.  Let's see just how "Patriotic" they are.  If they open fire, that's a few less gun nuts to worry about.  I think there's a 2-fer-1 special on Darwin Awards if you've got a #ColdDeadHands bumper sticker on your Technical.

 :roll:

One more time for the mouth breathers in the back:  We have well regulated militias.  They're called the National Guard, and the various states' Army Reserves.  You want to help?  Sign up for one of them, and pass the psych eval.  (I can testify to the fact that it's not hard to pass when you're absotuvely bonkers.)  They don't need any more help, and if there's as much a 6 pack, anywhere in your vehicles, meetings, or arsenals, you're NOT A WELL REGULATED MILITIA!


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 01, 2018, 02:10:42 AM
Trump says he may send 15,000 troops to U.S.-Mexico border (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ahead-of-midterm-elections-trump-says-he-may-send-15000-troops-to-us-mexico-border/2018/10/31/9e7740ec-dd4a-11e8-aa33-53bad9a881e8_story.html?utm_term=.3f4ac16988fd)

What a waste of troops and funds.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 01, 2018, 02:13:30 AM
Anyhting that starts "Trump says;" should not be taken at face value.  I'm guessing that means 1,500.  He just added another digit out of force of habit at this point.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 01, 2018, 04:17:55 AM
Oh nothing could go wrong at all, except maybe random shooting of brown people that look like my girlfriend regardless of legal or citizenship status.

Did I not clearly mark that as sarcasm?


I was echoing your obvious sarcasm.  You need to get back on coffee, possibly espresso intravenously.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: IrishGirl on November 01, 2018, 11:14:35 PM
Trump says he may send 15,000 troops to U.S.-Mexico border (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ahead-of-midterm-elections-trump-says-he-may-send-15000-troops-to-us-mexico-border/2018/10/31/9e7740ec-dd4a-11e8-aa33-53bad9a881e8_story.html?utm_term=.3f4ac16988fd)

What a waste of troops and funds.

#Resist

Well, that's extremely shot-sighted isn't it?  It's pretty clear that you didn't think the situation through to a conclusion.  Care to elaborate on your bull shit reactionary statement?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 02, 2018, 12:25:26 AM
It's pretty clear that you didn't think the situation through to a conclusion.

If you have, "Thought it through to a conclusion" when he so obviously hasn't, then what have you come up with?

Otherwise, you both haven't thought it through, and it's a tie.  You're just as good as he is at predicting the future, when they haven't even gotten TO the border yet. 


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 02, 2018, 04:01:42 AM
Some neo-Nazis lament the Pittsburgh massacre: It derails their efforts to be mainstream (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/some-neo-nazis-lament-the-pittsburgh-massacre-it-derails-their-efforts-to-be-mainstream/2018/10/30/3163fd9c-dc5f-11e8-85df-7a6b4d25cfbb_story.html?utm_term=.e643f7cceade)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 02, 2018, 01:41:17 PM
Trump’s new immigration ad was panned as racist. Turns out it was also based on a falsehood. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/02/trumps-new-immigration-ad-was-panned-racist-turns-out-it-was-also-based-falsehood/?utm_term=.fe6504c004da)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 03, 2018, 01:16:45 AM
President Trump is not a Racist.

Michael Cohen Says Trump Repeatedly Used Racist Language Before His Presidency (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/michael-cohen-trump-racist-language)

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“Trump said to me, ‘Name one country run by a black person that’s not a shithole,’ and then he added, ‘Name one city,’”

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“He said, ‘There’s no way I can let this black f-g win.’”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 03, 2018, 01:17:54 AM
Rep. Steve King erupts as his immigration views are compared to the Pittsburgh shooting suspect’s (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/01/steve-king-erupts-questioner-compares-his-immigration-views-pittsburgh-shooting-suspects/?utm_term=.9cd4efbc8f2b)

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King has come under fire in recent days after The Washington Post reported that he met with a far-right party with historical Nazi ties in Austria while on a trip to Europe that had been financed by a Holocaust memorial group.

At the forum in Iowa on Thursday, King defended the Austrian political group, saying that the party had purged former Nazis more than 50 years ago, except one with “a little youthful affiliation.” The party is now led by Heinz-Christian Strache, who was active in neo-Nazi circles as a youth.

King spoke about touring Holocaust sites in Poland before he flew to Vienna, an experience he said was moving.

His past statements — King has assailed immigrants, retweeted a Nazi sympathizer and said, “We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies,” in what many interpreted as an echo of the language of white nationalists — have drawn more scrutiny since the shooting massacre at a Pittsburgh synagogue.

Last month, King’s decision to endorse Faith Goldy also drew uproar. Goldy is a white nationalist candidate for Toronto mayor who appeared on a neo-Nazi podcast around the Charlottesville rally and later publicly recited a white supremacist slogan.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 05, 2018, 01:06:38 AM
Texas hunters who accidentally shot each other blamed undocumented immigrants, police reveal (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-hunters-blamed-immigrants-after-accidentally-shooting-each-other-a7591471.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 05, 2018, 01:40:52 AM
Iowa Teacher Who Wore Blackface Cries Whitest Tears Ever (https://www.theroot.com/iowa-teacher-who-wore-blackface-cries-whitest-tears-eve-1830211388)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 08, 2018, 01:08:40 AM
White Nationalist Leader Posts Pictures From White House Grounds (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/white-nationalist-leader-posts-pictures-from-white-house-grounds)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 08, 2018, 01:11:58 AM
White Nationalist Leader Posts Pictures From White House Grounds

#Resist

So, Donny figured out how to use the camera?  Gotta love it when the Phone is smarter than the orangutan using it.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 09, 2018, 04:56:24 PM
In revealing new memoir, Michelle Obama candidly shares her story (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/in-revealing-new-memoir-michelle-obama-candidly-shares-her-story/2018/11/08/6bc1d2ca-e20e-11e8-b759-3d88a5ce9e19_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9478b8ef5dcc)

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“The whole [birther] thing was crazy and mean-spirited, of course, its underlying bigotry and xenophobia hardly concealed. But it was also dangerous, deliberately meant to stir up the wingnuts and kooks,” she writes. “What if someone with an unstable mind loaded a gun and drove to Washington? What if that person went looking for our girls? Donald Trump, with his loud and reckless innuendos, was putting my family’s safety at risk. And for this I’d never forgive him.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 12, 2018, 04:03:28 AM
A senator from Mississippi joked about ‘public hanging.’ Her black opponent called it ‘reprehensible.’ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/11/senator-mississippi-joked-about-public-hanging-her-black-opponent-called-it-reprehensible/?utm_term=.89f0c1e65e8f)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on November 15, 2018, 05:33:27 PM
Man shouts 'Heil Hitler, Heil Trump' during intermission of Baltimore performance of 'Fiddler on the Roof' (https://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bs-md-ci-hippodrome-20181114-story.html)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 15, 2018, 05:38:32 PM
Man shouts 'Heil Hitler, Heil Trump' during intermission of Baltimore performance of 'Fiddler on the Roof' (https://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bs-md-ci-hippodrome-20181114-story.html)

I guess they didn't have a showing of Our American Cousin at that theater?  That guy bought a ticket, specifically to a Jewish musical, about the Russian pogrums, just for the chance to say something, and that's all he could come up with?

Not even a very smart troll.  Too bad he couldn't get a private Booth.  Look, he didn't show up with a semi-automatic, and pipe bombs. 


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 16, 2018, 03:47:50 AM
Video shows white Kansas official telling a black woman he is ‘part of the master race’ (https://www.nbcnews.com/video/video-shows-white-kansas-official-telling-a-black-woman-he-is-part-of-the-master-race-1371796547881?v=raila&cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 16, 2018, 06:24:22 AM
Parents support school staff who wore ‘border wall’ costumes (https://apnews.com/bd3b4d9a82034fb895c922fb9f7df968?utm_medium=APWestRegion&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow)

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Photos that were temporarily posted to the district’s Facebook page showed some teachers and aides wearing caricatured outfits depicting Mexican people and others dressed up as a U.S. border wall.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 16, 2018, 06:25:14 AM
Trumpism Is Racism, So Things Will Get Worse (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/2018-midterms-trumpism-754178/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 16, 2018, 06:25:54 AM
Judge tosses lawsuit challenging Arizona state Rep.-elect Raquel Terán's citizenship (https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/11/14/raquel-teran-arizona-representative-elect-challenge-citizenship-case-dismissed/2001344002/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 16, 2018, 08:50:23 AM
Man shouts 'Heil Hitler, Heil Trump' during intermission of Baltimore performance of 'Fiddler on the Roof' (https://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bs-md-ci-hippodrome-20181114-story.html)


It’s being reported the man did it because of his hatred for Trump, and that he was very drunk.  Fox cites the Baltimore Sun as the source for that.  Sorry for no link, and I did not confirm the Sun source, it’s the middle of the night for me.  But I felt it was important, as that report contradicts how we were all intrepreting this incident.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 16, 2018, 08:56:11 AM
how we were all intrepreting this incident.

How so?  Let's just assume that he was drunk, and anti-Trump.  It Was Still Fucking Offensive.  Inebriation, and political views notwithstanding, there's really no excuse for that, either way.

Also, I'm getting pretty fucking sick of "I was drunk" as an excuse, for anything.  You're not pro-Trump, right?  Can you say that you can ever get drunk enough, to forget that yelling "Heil" anything in a movie theater showing a movie about Pogroms is fucking offensive?

So, how is that an excuse?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 16, 2018, 04:17:15 PM
Man shouts 'Heil Hitler, Heil Trump' during intermission of Baltimore performance of 'Fiddler on the Roof' (https://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bs-md-ci-hippodrome-20181114-story.html)


It’s being reported the man did it because of his hatred for Trump, and that he was very drunk.  Fox cites the Baltimore Sun as the source for that.  Sorry for no link, and I did not confirm the Sun source, it’s the middle of the night for me.  But I felt it was important, as that report contradicts how we were all intrepreting this incident.


Because Psi the first article was linked in a thread about Trump promoting racism on the assumption this incident was an example of that.

And how many people in general first read of this incident and made the assumption this was another neo-Nazi Trump supporter scaring the shit of of people, when it was just a stupid drunk on the opposite political spectrum.  Certainly an honest mistake on the first reports of the incident, but who notices when more information comes to light?


https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-hippodrome-20181114-story.html


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 16, 2018, 04:31:20 PM
how we were all intrepreting this incident.

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I felt it was important, as that report contradicts how we were all intrepreting this incident.

All right, so you seem to think that everyone or at least all of us interpreted it as the same thing.  I guess I go on record saying that I for one don't care if it's a neo-nazi, or a drunk liberal being offensive because he can.  Either way, the current administration is responsible for making the Holocaust, and anti-Semitic pogroms a joke.  The fact that he yelled "Heil Hitler, Heil Trump!" pretty much points to his inspiration, either way.

And again, in case you missed that, it's fucking offensive whoever does it, even if he's drunk.  I can't, honestly be the only person here, capable of reading an article, and still forming my own opinion, can I?  The politics behind the offense has 0 net affect on the actual offense.  If I kick you in the left nut, it hurts just as much as if I punch you in the right.

Politically speaking, even drunk, an anti-Trumpet should fucking know better.  Even if he was Jewish, if he was Jewish, would that make it better in your eyes?

Here's what i thought:

Man shouts 'Heil Hitler, Heil Trump' during intermission of Baltimore performance of 'Fiddler on the Roof' (https://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bs-md-ci-hippodrome-20181114-story.html)

I guess they didn't have a showing of Our American Cousin at that theater?  That guy bought a ticket, specifically to a Jewish musical, about the Russian pogrums, just for the chance to say something, and that's all he could come up with?

Not even a very smart troll.  Too bad he couldn't get a private Booth.

I made jokes about the Lincoln Assassination, instead of dismissing him as a Neo-Nazi.  In case you missed that.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 16, 2018, 04:56:16 PM

All right, so you seem to think that everyone or at least all of us interpreted it as the same thing.



No, I’m usually only baffled by the random tangents of some of your interpretations.  Note, I said ‘some’, not all.

I think most of the people who are critical of Trump and first read of this incident assumed it was a dangerous right wing Trump supporter (as I did), when in fact it was a drunken liberal fool.  The point I was making, and you frequently fail to grasp the points people make, is way too many of us on the left seize on an incident like this and stay with their initial erroneous interpretation of what happened.  I recall a time when liberals did a better job of fact checking.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 16, 2018, 05:09:18 PM
Note, I said ‘some’, not all.

Except for the 2 quotes I provided, from 2 different posts, where you said "All."

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The point I was making, and you frequently fail to grasp the points people make, is way too many of us on the left seize on an incident like this and stay with their initial erroneous interpretation of what happened.

No, what happened was an asshole was offensive.  What you failed to grasp, my point, is that the politics behind the offense doesn't change what happened, nor the truth of what happened.  He doesn't get a free pass because he hates Trump too, it's still a hate crime.  It doesn't matter whether he did it for Trump, or against him.  The FACT is that he did it anyway.  So, if anything, being liberal, or anti-Trump doesn't make you immune to being an asshole.  (And public intoxication is not an excuse for committing hate crimes.)

Doing wrong for the "Right" reasons is still fucking wrong, and the fact that he was Trying to insult Trump doesn't change the fact that he insulted Jews in the same breath.

Why is this a difficult concept to grasp?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 16, 2018, 06:06:18 PM
It’s not.  Why is it difficult for you to understand I’m posting about assumptions on whose asshole it was, not on whether it was an asshole.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 16, 2018, 06:27:09 PM
Never mind.  It's not just IrishGirl.  It's partisan politics in general.  None of you can look past your own dogma, about liberals, and conservatives long enough to see the real people, really getting hurt, because it's all Their fault.  Of course, we're never fucking wrong, it's all them, when this conflict Is the problem.  It's how Trump got elected in the first place, you care more about who says what than what gets done, or what gets left undone, because you're too busy bickering about who to blame to do anything about it. 

If he'd yelled "FIRE!" would it have mattered if he was a democrat, republican, libertarian or anarchist to the people getting trampled by everyone running for the exits?  Okay, then the fact that it was that fucking racist, changes the meaning of the party afiliation, on the assumption that only Trump followers are racists?  There's no racists that aren't against Trump?

It doesn't FUCKING MATTER whether it's a liberal, or a conservative.  It's wrong, either way, and the party affiliation of the offender has fuckall to do with their party ticket when they commit a hate crime.  If an Antifake punches a Jew, mistaking them for a Nazi because they're at the same march, and forgot to wear the Antifa uniform, or a Star of David on his lapel.  It's still a hate crime, even if they're obstensibly on the same side.  Dumbasses.  I'm done.  Have fun telling each other what everyone is thinking, I'll just stick to writing sex stories.  


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 16, 2018, 06:42:47 PM
You know what?  You managed to change my mind, Jed.  It's not Trump's fault, and he gets too much credit for it.  He's not the cause, he's just the most glaring symptom of the underlying problem:  We're so divided on every single issue, ALL of us, our first reaction is to peg it in the Liberal or Conservative hole, before we even start to think about the victims, and I did it too.

Thanks for that, here's your Woo!


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 16, 2018, 08:12:54 PM
Actually you’re now understanding my point, but possibly still not sure it was my point?

We see an asshole and figure the asshole must be one of ‘them’, and then much to our chagrin find out he’s one that ‘them’ will say is one of ‘us’, even if we don’t want ownship of the asshole.  When none of us in our divided camps want to take ownership of the asshole, it’s frustrating we can’t be smug and clearly place the asshole in ‘their’ camp.  And knowing that ‘they’ won’t see it that way, and place the asshole in ‘our’ camp is both frustrating and embarrassing, as it’s hard to distance ‘ourselves’.

Maybe the enemy of my enemy isn’t necessarily my friend?  Otherwise, it’s unlikely I would frequently be told to ‘Go fuck [myself]’ or ‘Eat a bag of dicks’.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on November 16, 2018, 08:33:03 PM
Maybe the enemy of my enemy isn’t necessarily my friend?  Otherwise, it’s unlikely I would frequently be told to ‘Go fuck [myself]’ or ‘Eat a bag of dicks’.
Unless you happen to like those activities. :)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 16, 2018, 09:04:04 PM
Actually you’re now understanding my point, but possibly still not sure it was my point?

At first, I was trying to add to, and clarify that point, not argue against it.  In the misunderstanding, you seemed to get defensive, but to clarify:  Not all of us thought that, I can only speek for myself, but I don't have a horse in this race.

Trump is symbolic of the problem (Mindless opposition) but also to me the solution:  A mistake so insane we may be able to learn from him, after he collapses this political structure while bot sides are blaming each other for causing it.  

On yet another axis, he's also spearheading (Or standard bearing, so he can take credit for everything) the efforts to deny me citizenship.  Along with Mexicans, Blacks, Women, non-christians, ironically Socialists, and Liberals.  As a transperson, I'm basically being swept under the rug, so that the only rights legally allowable with regards to transpeople is to discriminate against us.  We can't admit we exist, and yet it's specifically legal for Businesses to descriminate us, to spare them the expense of a couple bathroom signs.  (Basically, the Wheelchair bound have more access than us.)

However, on the other end of that Axis, he's ignorantly working toward destroying the country I would be a citizen of, if I existed.  Eventually, through shear mismanagement, I'll get my equality as soon as Nobody is a citizen of America, because It no longer exists.  My only worry is that the American National Socialist Party will have enough Power due to the government's negligent incompetence that they will be able to fill that power gap, and declare the 5th Reich before I can build a Technocracy.  As is my plan.

fortunately, nobody understands my plan well enough to thwart it.  It's too Rational, and involves too many factors for any of you to anticipate with your 1 track black, and white mentalities.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 16, 2018, 09:59:37 PM
I’m a former Republican that is increasingly certain I made the correct choice when I began voting for Democrats.  These last couple decades the Republican Party has not only been goose-stepping their way ever further to the right, they have become so religious about their ideology (and their religion), they have convinced themselves nothing they do to shove that ideology down our throats is going too far to the point our democracy is being shredded.  They can’t win as a simple majority and see nothing wrong with tyrannical minority rule, cheating in any way they can.

Unfortunately, it is us against them in this battle.  But there’s no reason to be uncivil, even if we’re in the process of chopping theirs heads off and burning them in a fire as a sacrifice to Lucifer.  OK, did I just go too far?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 16, 2018, 10:10:10 PM
But there’s no reason to be uncivil, even if we’re in the process of chopping theirs heads off and burning them in a fire as a sacrifice to Lucifer.  OK, did I just go too far?

Uhm, yeah.  I'm pretty sure Lucifer is never the lesser Evil.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on November 17, 2018, 12:11:30 AM
Aux barricades!!!!


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on November 17, 2018, 03:23:23 AM
I personally fail to see the significance of the speaker’s political persuasion.  He didn’t yell, “Heil Hitler!  Heil Obama!”  It was a racist attack, that occurred during a musical celebrating Jewish heritage, and attended by many Jews.  I guess if someone stands up at a Bruno Mars concert and yells, “Lynch the ni**ers!” It is okay, if he voted for Clinton?  Fuck that.  The outburst traumatized everyone in attendance, and particularly the Jewish community still reeling from the Pittsburgh synagogue massacre.  The fact is, Trump is dragging our entire civilization down the toilet.  And that is why this thread is called RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL, THANKS TO TRUMP.”  


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 17, 2018, 10:45:33 AM
You have a good point Toe.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on November 19, 2018, 12:11:44 AM
Donald Trump was elected president because of his racism, not in spite of it. (https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/11/16/miasma-hate-descends-upon-massachusetts-schools/kGaubacgU5pCf136ILlvFL/story.html)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on November 20, 2018, 10:15:55 PM
Duke mural honoring synagogue shooting victims defaced with Swastika (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/duke-mural-honoring-synagogue-shooting-victims-defaced-swastika-n938016?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 20, 2018, 10:29:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Czj4OYRqgc

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 21, 2018, 03:42:02 AM
Embattled Hyde-Smith posted photo of herself in Confederate hat (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/20/hyde-smith-confederate-hat-picture-1008010)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 21, 2018, 04:09:08 AM
Embattled Hyde-Smith posted photo of herself in Confederate hat (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/20/hyde-smith-confederate-hat-picture-1008010)

#Resist


There’s a point at which a historical hat is just a fucking historical hat.  Thousands of people do historical re-enactments every year wearing such hats.  Trying to take the wearing of a historical hat that likely many of her ancestors wore and extrapolating to outright racism is nonsense and just the type of misplaced outrage and over the top political correctness the right uses to stir up the base.

That said, the public hanging comment joke or not was is very poor taste in a region where lynchings occurred.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on November 21, 2018, 06:01:01 AM
Embattled Hyde-Smith posted photo of herself in Confederate hat (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/20/hyde-smith-confederate-hat-picture-1008010)

#Resist


There’s a point at which a historical hat is just a fucking historical hat.  Thousands of people do historical re-enactments every year wearing such hats.  Trying to take the wearing of a historical hat that likely many of her ancestors wore and extrapolating to outright racism is nonsense and just the type of misplaced outrage and over the top political correctness the right uses to stir up the base.

That said, the public hanging comment joke or not was is very poor taste in a region where lynchings occurred.

I dunno.  When all she's said and done is taken all together it does not sound good to me.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on November 21, 2018, 06:41:54 AM
In poor taste, but so is most of what the GOP does.  Always amazing to see the Snowflakes crying racism whenever someone points out what their mother should have taught them about polite behavior.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 21, 2018, 03:28:51 PM
There’s also the ‘joking’ that voter suppression is a fine idea.  ‘Joking’ about that and lynching certainly should get her beaten by Espy next week in the run off, at least we can only hope.  Mississippi is 37% African American I read recently, and they sound motivated after the ‘jokes’.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 21, 2018, 10:16:26 PM
Mariah Carey Posts Pic With Kaepernick—and Social Media Promptly Forgets She's Black (https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/mariah-carey-posts-pic-with-kaepernick-and-social-media-1830587917)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 21, 2018, 10:55:20 PM
Or that Colin is a Polack?  Yeah, funny thing about being mixed race, they're only as black as is convenient for racism.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Billy on November 22, 2018, 09:22:16 AM
Yes racism is alive and well in America .Just as it is all over the world . I think though. That those reporting about it don't differentiate between xenophobia and naked racism .


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 22, 2018, 10:28:42 AM
Those reporting about it don't differentiate between xenophobia and naked racism.

These aren't mutually exclusive, though.  There's no practical difference when the motive is Racism, and they just use Xenophobia as a thin veil to excuse it.  We're not talking about Illegal Aliens from Canada coming here, and taking our jobs, nor from eastern Europe.

Xenophobia is not America.  It isn't an American value, it goes against everything we were founded, and fought for.  America is Immigration, it's where all Americans, regardless of Color came from, and every black mark of our history is ultimately smudged by our straying away from that foundation. 


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 22, 2018, 12:12:13 PM
Xenophobia is not America.

Racism in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States)

Three-Fifths Compromise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Fifths_Compromise)

Internment of Japanese Americans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans)

Civil rights movement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement)

Islamophobia in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia_in_the_United_States)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 22, 2018, 01:21:50 PM
America is Immigration, it's where all Americans, regardless of Color came from, and every black mark of our history is ultimately smudged by our straying away from that foundation.  

Racism in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States)

Three-Fifths Compromise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Fifths_Compromise)

Internment of Japanese Americans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans)

Civil rights movement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement)

Islamophobia in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia_in_the_United_States)
I'm just going to assume that you quoted the wrong point, because you stopped there, and didn't keep reading...

Thank you for 5 examples of America forgetting who we are.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 22, 2018, 05:22:57 PM
Racism is more American than baseball.

60 million people voted for a racist.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 22, 2018, 06:51:10 PM
Racism is more American than baseball.

Yeah, and I'm not the only one that sees something wrong with that, right?  The ideals of America, save for "Come to Earth, we'll kick your ass!" are written in The New Collossus, and engraved at the feet of Lady Liberty. 

"Come to America;"
where the stars are all White.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 23, 2018, 05:40:06 PM
Disapproval of Trump’s handling of race relations hits 60 percent (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/23/disapproval-trumps-handling-race-relations-hits-percent/?utm_term=.afc1450eeb56)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 25, 2018, 11:35:35 PM
Wisconsin School Board Rules Nazi Salute Kids Are Just Exercising Free Speech (https://splinternews.com/wisconsin-school-board-rules-nazi-salute-kids-are-just-1830633980)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 25, 2018, 11:37:13 PM
Black Man Killed by Officer in Alabama Mall Shooting Was Not the Gunman, Police Now Say (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/24/us/alabama-mall-shooting.html)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 26, 2018, 04:03:36 AM
Why MLB donated money to Cindy Hyde-Smith (https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2018/11/25/18110483/mlb-donated-money-cindy-hyde-smith-senator-jackie-robinson-mississippi-runoff)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Sensualtravler on November 26, 2018, 06:08:18 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-caravan-confirms-what-trump-has-been-saying-for-weeks/

Notice the article is from CBS, not FOX news.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on November 26, 2018, 06:28:17 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-caravan-confirms-what-trump-has-been-saying-for-weeks/

Notice the article is from CBS, not FOX news.

Commentary is not news.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 26, 2018, 08:04:41 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-caravan-confirms-what-trump-has-been-saying-for-weeks/

Notice the article is from CBS, not FOX news.

The irony of you posting it in this thread is not lost on me.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 26, 2018, 08:12:13 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-caravan-confirms-what-trump-has-been-saying-for-weeks/

Notice the article is from CBS, not FOX news.



Commentary is not news.

Should we give him partial credit for not using Facebook as a source this time?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on November 26, 2018, 09:45:27 PM
Should we give him partial credit for not using Facebook as a source this time?

I thought you just defamed people, didn't realize you actually gave out positive feedback, too.  (Or at least threaten them with partial credit.)  Learn something new every day!

#Impede


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 26, 2018, 11:49:40 PM
I thought you just defamed people, didn't realize you actually gave out positive feedback, too.  (Or at least threaten them with partial credit.)  Learn something new every day!

I'm still waiting on you to provide a source that states Roe v. Wade cannot be overturned.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 26, 2018, 11:50:25 PM
Nooses Hung Outside Mississippi State Capitol the Day Before Pivotal Senate Election (UPDATED) (https://splinternews.com/nooses-hung-outside-mississippi-state-capitol-the-day-b-1830658183)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 26, 2018, 11:56:35 PM
In the United States, right-wing violence is on the rise (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/in-the-united-states-right-wing-violence-is-on-the-rise/2018/11/25/61f7f24a-deb4-11e8-85df-7a6b4d25cfbb_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b221fd90aa08)

Quote
Over the past decade, attackers motivated by right-wing political ideologies have committed dozens of shootings, bombings and other acts of violence, far more than any other category of domestic extremist, according to a Washington Post analysis of data on global terrorism. While the data show a decades-long drop-off in violence by left-wing groups, violence by white supremacists and other far-right attackers has been on the rise since Barack Obama’s presidency — and has surged since President Trump took office.

This year has been especially deadly.Just last month, 13 people died in two incidents: A Kentucky gunman attempted to enter a historically black church, police say, then shot and killed two black patrons in a nearby grocery store. And an anti-Semitic loner who had expressed anger about a caravan of Central American refugees that Trump termed an “invasion” has been charged with gunning down 11 people in a Pittsburgh synagogue, the deadliest act of anti-Semitic violence in U.S. history.

This month brought two more bodies: A military veteran who had railed online against women and blacks opened fire in a Tallahassee yoga studio, killing two women and wounding five. All told, researchers say at least 20 people have died this year in suspected right-wing attacks.

Quote
Terrorism researchers say right-wing violence sprouted alongside white anxiety about Obama’s presidency and has accelerated in the Trump era. Trump and his aides have continuously denied that he has contributed to the rise in violence. But experts say right-wing extremists perceive the president as offering them tacit support for their cause.

Quote
“If you have politicians saying things like our nation is under attack, that there are these marauding bands of immigrants coming into the country, that plays into this right-wing narrative. They begin to think it’s okay to use violence,” said Gary LaFree, criminology chairman at the University of Maryland and founding director of the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism, or START.

Frank Figliuzzi, a former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence, said political leaders, “from the White House down, used to serve as a check on conduct and speech that was abhorrent to most people. I see that eroding.”

“The current political rhetoric is at least enabling, and certainly not discouraging, violence,” Figliuzzi said.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 26, 2018, 11:59:43 PM
Documenting Hate: New American Nazis (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/documenting-hate-new-american-nazis/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 28, 2018, 11:20:00 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtH2MoQUwAAZK-d.jpg:large)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Sensualtravler on November 29, 2018, 01:07:52 AM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-caravan-confirms-what-trump-has-been-saying-for-weeks/

Notice the article is from CBS, not FOX news.



Commentary is not news.

Should we give him partial credit for not using Facebook as a source this time?

#Resist

Says the man who does more copying and pasting than any other member here.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Sensualtravler on November 29, 2018, 01:44:53 AM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-caravan-confirms-what-trump-has-been-saying-for-weeks/

Notice the article is from CBS, not FOX news.

Commentary is n

ot news.

If it were from Hillary,or Obama, you would consider it as gospel.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 29, 2018, 03:15:02 AM

Says the man who does more copying and pasting than any other member here.

Your point is what?

If you don't like my sources, you are welcome to challenge them using credible, verifable sources.

I suspect you won't.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 29, 2018, 03:26:20 AM

Says the man who does more copying and pasting than any other member here.

Your point is what?

If you don't like my sources, you are welcome to challenge them using credible, verifable sources.

I suspect you won't.

#Resist


You lost him at ‘credible and verifiable’.  His Trump University education doesn’t include those terms.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Sensualtravler on November 29, 2018, 04:27:48 AM

Says the man who does more copying and pasting than any other member here.

Your point is what?

If you don't like my sources, you are welcome to challenge them using credible, verifable sources.

I suspect you won't.

#Resist

What sources? Copy and pastes? Because they're from left wing sources? Not your thoughts certainly.I might if you informed me of a plausible reason, according to you, why  ALL right wing sources are not believable and ALL left wing articles are gospel.Otherwise, I haven't the time,nor the inclination to debate a silly man running around with a German piss pot on his head yelling RESIST!  Silly little man.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: armandoG on November 29, 2018, 04:41:16 AM
this post is shoe-in to win the funniest of the year - the title is a hoot


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 29, 2018, 04:48:23 AM
What sources? Copy and pastes? Because they're from left wing sources? Not your thoughts certainly.I might if you informed me of a plausible reason, according to you, why  ALL right wing sources are not believable and ALL left wing articles are gospel.

"Provide evidence my sources are wrong."

"Your sources are bullshit!  MAGA!"

You sure have some bats running around in there.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 29, 2018, 04:03:30 PM
this post is shoe-in to win the funniest of the year - the title is a hoot



Funny, haha, or funny, peculiar?   Because, speaking of peculiar. . . . .


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 29, 2018, 06:39:38 PM
Senate postpones vote on controversial judicial nominee from North Carolina (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/senate-postpones-vote-on-controversial-judicial-nominee-from-north-carolina/2018/11/29/fd0fcd12-f3cb-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html?utm_term=.cd192270c945)

Quote
Republicans in control of the North Carolina General Assembly had hired Farr and others in his law firm to defend congressional boundaries approved in 2011. In 2016, a federal court struck down the map as racial gerrymandering.

Farr also helped defend a 2013 voter ID law that was considered one of the strictest in the nation. In addition to requiring residents to show identification before they could cast a ballot, the law also eliminated same-day voter registration, got rid of seven days of early voting and ended out-of-precinct voting.

A federal court ruled in 2016 that the primary purpose of North Carolina’s law wasn’t to stop voter fraud but to disenfranchise minority voters. The judges wrote that the law targeted African Americans “with almost surgical precision,” in part because the only acceptable forms of voter identification were ones disproportionately used by white people.

Farr’s work on the 1990 campaign of Sen. Jesse Helms (R-N.C.) also has been a source of controversy.

The campaign received scrutiny for distributing postcards that the Justice Department later said were meant to intimidate black voters from heading to the polls.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on November 30, 2018, 02:03:14 AM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-caravan-confirms-what-trump-has-been-saying-for-weeks/

Notice the article is from CBS, not FOX news.

Commentary is not news.

If it were from Hillary,or Obama, you would consider it as gospel.

They would never write such crap so you point is moot.

Most of what it states is erroneous.  I even clicked through to the link that was supposed to support claims of holes being cut in fences and found it did not mention such activities at all.

But what the world saw was the USA firing tear gas into a neighboring country and women and children running in panic.



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on November 30, 2018, 02:12:59 AM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-caravan-confirms-what-trump-has-been-saying-for-weeks/

Notice the article is from CBS, not FOX news.

Commentary is n

ot news.

If it were from Hillary,or Obama, you would consider it as gospel.


https://www.businessinsider.com.au/fact-or-opinion-young-vs-older-people-who-can-tell-difference-poll-2018-10

I guess this article is saying you are a doddering old fool?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 30, 2018, 08:31:05 PM
GM Workers Hung 'Whites Only' Bathroom Signs and Nooses at Toledo Plant: Lawsuit (https://jalopnik.com/gm-workers-hung-whites-only-bathroom-signs-and-nooses-a-1830755166)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on November 30, 2018, 10:08:55 PM
Arizona state lawmaker: African-Americans ‘don’t blend in’ (https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/419168-arizona-state-lawmaker-african-americans-dont-blend-in)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on December 01, 2018, 10:55:54 PM
DC clerk stalls Native American’s marriage over 'foreign' New Mexico ID card (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dc-clerk-stalls-marriage-over-foreign-new-mexico-id-card/ar-BBQj5os?ocid=sf&fbclid=IwAR2Aqgz7m8PO6lfTCkcSEMlK5CkUjVwsGPk2rUK4TbV4ZqkYTnHPLYoLFMk)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on December 01, 2018, 11:04:41 PM
DC clerk stalls Native American’s marriage over 'foreign' New Mexico ID card (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dc-clerk-stalls-marriage-over-foreign-new-mexico-id-card/ar-BBQj5os?ocid=sf&fbclid=IwAR2Aqgz7m8PO6lfTCkcSEMlK5CkUjVwsGPk2rUK4TbV4ZqkYTnHPLYoLFMk)

Saffron, get the hose.  The goddamned Birthers are at it again!  Seriously, America isn't white.  Get that through your thick skulls, you cro-magnans, it never was.  Not to mention the fact that you don't have to be an American to marry one (Just ask Ivana, and Melania)


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 02, 2018, 01:52:16 AM
'Little Free Library' honoring Michelle Obama vandalized with Trump's name (https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/418166-little-free-library-honoring-michelle-obama-vandalized-with)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 05, 2018, 10:42:30 PM
Some Republicans want to oust a Muslim doctor from his GOP leadership role — because he’s Muslim (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/05/group-republicans-want-oust-muslim-doctor-his-gop-leadership-role-because-he-is-muslim/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.1b396f29d50e)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on December 06, 2018, 03:34:16 AM
DC clerk stalls Native American’s marriage over 'foreign' New Mexico ID card (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dc-clerk-stalls-marriage-over-foreign-new-mexico-id-card/ar-BBQj5os?ocid=sf&fbclid=IwAR2Aqgz7m8PO6lfTCkcSEMlK5CkUjVwsGPk2rUK4TbV4ZqkYTnHPLYoLFMk)

Saffron, get the hose.  The goddamned Birthers are at it again!  Seriously, America isn't white.  Get that through your thick skulls, you cro-magnans, it never was.  Not to mention the fact that you don't have to be an American to marry one (Just ask Ivana, and Melania)
This is proof that some people are that stupid.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 06, 2018, 04:43:02 PM
Don’t condemn white nationalists, Veterans Affairs’ diversity chief was told after Charlottesville, emails show (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dont-condemn-white-nationalists-veterans-affairs-diversity-chief-was-told-after-charlottesville-emails-show/2018/12/05/fbff66ce-f41d-11e8-aeea-b85fd44449f5_story.html?utm_term=.3a6ab00f4fa4)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 07, 2018, 11:20:55 PM
Self-professed neo-Nazi James A. Fields Jr. convicted of first-degree murder in car-ramming that killed one, injured dozens (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/jury-set-to-begin-deliberations-in-james-a-fields-jr-car-ramming-trial/2018/12/06/65d38748-f9b3-11e8-8c9a-860ce2a8148f_story.html?utm_term=.fb58d0d5325e)

Justice for Heather Heyer.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on December 08, 2018, 04:00:09 AM
His "self-defense" defense didn't work so well, I guess.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on December 27, 2018, 02:06:01 PM
WATCH: White ‘snowflake’ gets an epic scolding after throwing a shopping mall tantrum over ‘Arabs and Democrats’ (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/watch-white-snowflake-gets-epic-scolding-throwing-shopping-mall-tantrum-arabs-democrats/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on December 27, 2018, 04:04:54 PM
His "self-defense" defense didn't work so well, I guess.

Gotta love when "Nazis" play the victim.  I use quotes here, because real Nazis, played the victims of the Treaty of Versailles, and they even had a point once.  Ever since then, they have been as Offensive as is possible to be.  So, when wannabe evil like this comes along, and wines for sympathy, after a botched killing spree.  I hate to say it, but they're doing it wrong. 

How do you fuck up being a Nazi?  It's not rocket science.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on December 27, 2018, 07:14:37 PM
Speaking in a language other than English is at most mildly irritating when it occurs in public. However, irritating is a personal thing, and is only a personal foible.

There is NO national language in the US. There is NO requirement to speak English in public. It does help to communicate with the rest of the citiznry, but it is not mandatory to only speak English.

My father would have been in that fellows face so fast... and then he would have given him a civics lesson.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 02, 2019, 08:55:33 PM
Lots of People in Delaware Seem Cool With This Incredibly Racist Parade (https://splinternews.com/lots-of-people-in-delaware-seem-cool-with-this-incredib-1831429522)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 02, 2019, 11:04:17 PM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--S6GzeFbP--/c_fit,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/nypyn9cuknlqbviotff5.png)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on January 02, 2019, 11:50:29 PM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--S6GzeFbP--/c_fit,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/nypyn9cuknlqbviotff5.png)

#Resist


My Peruvian gf has distinctive Native American features.  While sitting at a sushi bar a little over a week ago, the Japanese chef stared then asked her if she was from Asia.  Next time I’ll have her answer, ‘Mongolia’, just to fuck with them.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 03, 2019, 12:14:50 AM
 :emot_laughing:

I just can't avoid ye olde term "Mongoloid" for Down's syndrome.  This C-unit can't be bothered to learn Spanish well enough to understand native speakers, but I'm sure she's an expert on what Mongolian looks, and sounds like.  Instead of say Nepalese, Siberian, Thibetan...

I have a little trouble understanding Español when they talk too quickly, but I don't blame them for it.  Nor do I claim to be an expert.  This sounds a lot like a racist, trying not to sound racist.  Sorry, "Nativist," that must be PC for Xenophobic.

If you can't tell the difference between Spanish, and Mongolian, that's a little beyond "Belief."  Wonder what the First Nations Tribes feel about these new "Nativist" beliefs?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 03, 2019, 12:39:40 PM
Ohio doctor fired for anti-Semitic tweets, including threats to give Jews "the wrong meds" (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lara-kollab-cleveland-clinic-doctor-fired-after-saying-she-would-give-jews-the-wrong-meds/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on January 04, 2019, 01:53:16 AM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--S6GzeFbP--/c_fit,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/nypyn9cuknlqbviotff5.png)

#Resist

Native Americans came from Asia, so many will have Asian features.  As for thier language, I had no idea that Native American languages were offensive to anyone, but I guess there are all kinds of idiots out there.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 06, 2019, 01:01:22 AM
Trump ally calls Warren ‘Sacagawea’ in Fox News appearance (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trump-ally-calls-warren-sacagawea-in-fox-news-appearance/2019/01/05/1557007a-112c-11e9-831f-3aa2c2be4cbd_story.html?utm_term=.cfc9fc469c7d)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 06, 2019, 01:56:42 AM
Justice Dept. admits error but won’t correct report linking terrorism to immigration (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-dept-admits-error-but-wont-correct-report-linking-terrorism-to-immigration/2019/01/03/cd29997a-0f69-11e9-831f-3aa2c2be4cbd_story.html?utm_term=.f4661d906cf2)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 07, 2019, 02:55:38 AM
Chris Wallace Debunks Sarah Sanders' Bullshit on Terrorists Coming Across the Southern Border (https://splinternews.com/chris-wallace-debunks-sarah-sanders-bullshit-on-terrori-1831532306)

Quote
Sanders trotted out a typically absurd Trump administration claim: that “thousands” of potential terrorists are coming into the U.S. over the southern border.

Wallace played a clip of DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielson repeating this lie at a press conference this week.

“CBP has stopped over 3,000 what we call special interest aliens trying to come into the country on the southern border. Those are aliens who the Intel community has identified are of concern,” Nielson said in the clip.

Wallace pointed out that this is, you know, not true.

“But special interest aliens are just people who have come from countries that have ever produced a terrorist, they’re not terrorists themselves,” Wallace said.

“The state department says, quote, ‘there was no credible evidence of any terrorist coming across the border from Mexico,” he added, citing a government report from September.

Sanders responded by flatly repeating the claim.

“We know that roughly nearly 4,000 known or suspected terrorists come into our country illegally, and we know that our most vulnerable point of entry is southern border,” she said, before Wallace cut her off.

“I know the statistic, I didn’t know if you were going to use it, but I studied up on this,” Wallace said. “Do you know what those 4,000 people come where they are captured? Airports.”

“Not always,” Sanders replied, clearly grasping. “It’s by air it’s by land it’s by sea, it’s all of the above, but one thing that you’re forgetting is at the most vulnerable point of entry that we have into this country is our southern border. You have to protect it, and the more and more that individuals know that....”

“But they’re not coming across the southern border, Sarah, they’re coming and they’re being stopped at airports,” Wallace said.

Sanders made one last attempt to stand her ground.

“They’re coming a number of ways, they’re certainly, I’m not disagreeing with you that they’re coming through airports,” she responded. “I’m saying that they come by air by land and by sea, and the more and more that our border becomes vulnerable and the less and less that we spend time and money protecting it the more that we’re going to have an influx, not just of terrorists, but of human traffickers and drug inflow.”

She did not note how many terrorists are coming by dirigible or submarine.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 07, 2019, 05:35:06 AM
Welcome to 1984.

Sanders is at the head of Minitrue.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 07, 2019, 01:10:10 PM
Why is he pretending to shut down the country?  He's threatening to keep it shut down, if he doesn't get funding for his racism memorial, but he has no control over the shutdown.  Even if he did, he'd blame someone else for the failure in government.

Look everybody, see how the government doesn't work when I'm president?  I mean, I'll shut it down until I get me wall!

Edit  Thanks Katiebee, for missing the point.: 


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 07, 2019, 03:18:14 PM
No, the press is doing its job and reporting what has happened. The editorials can make a statement about whom is responsible. The News organizations can only say it is happening and report the stataements of the players.

Which shows that the Press is trying to remain objective and not partisan.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 07, 2019, 03:25:26 PM
Okay, but they're carrying on the narrative that Trump has anything to do with the shutdown.  Of course they're doing their jobs reporting it, but they're taking the talking point from Trump.  He's taking credit for it, and attention away from the Senate refusing to fund the House.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 07, 2019, 03:44:10 PM
The press doesn’t tell you what to think. That is the responsibility of the citizenry. We simply need smarter citizens.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 07, 2019, 03:51:41 PM
LOL, okay?  That was your point?  They got the story wrong, they listened to the wrong source.  I even bought it until I found out what really happened.

Almost as if I didn't let it tell me what to think!  Not going to say anything about this being the wrong thread, just going to press that one point?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 07, 2019, 05:28:17 PM
You aren’t listening, or comprehending. The press has been fair and reported both sides. And yes, stupid people adhering to dogma because BENGHaZI mindset predisposes them to it is no excuse.

You want to rail at me because we don’t have partisan liberal needs? You can stop right there.
Democracies carry the seeds of their demise inherently in the fair and pballance mindset of political discourse and news. K

IT’s just like Ben Franklin said when asked why kind of government they had given the people. “A republic, Ma’am, if you can keep it.”
Democracies/Republics fall from within because their citizens become lazy and complacent, and follow demagogues who appleal to their fears and hatred.

So don’t go blaming the 4th Estate. They are doing their job.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 07, 2019, 05:44:34 PM
You want to rail at me because we don’t have partisan liberal needs?

I'm not railing at anyone.  I made an observation, and you picked a point about the press.  You want to rail at me for mentioning the press?  Go right ahead.

That was the last word of my post.  I said something about Donald Trump taking credit for the shutdown.

Why is he pretending to shut down the country?  He's threatening to keep it shut down, if he doesn't get funding for his racism memorial, but he has no control over the shutdown.  Even if he did, he'd blame someone else for the failure in government.

Look everybody, see how the government doesn't work when I'm president?  I mean, I'll shut it down until I get me wall!

I'm sorry I mentioned the press.  There, you happy?


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on January 07, 2019, 07:27:57 PM
He does control the shutdown by promising to veto any budget that doesn’t include an unnecessary wall.

Democrats know you can’t give into such blackmail or he’ll do it again and again like a fat toddler that screams for an unnecessary cookie until he gets one, he’ll just scream for a 2nd and 3rd unnecessary cookie.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 07, 2019, 08:57:44 PM
He does control the shutdown by promising to veto any budget that doesn’t include an unnecessary wall.

Impeach his ass!  Come on, WTF are we waiting for?  Yes, he retroactively took credit for it, and he's even managed to back-door in that stipulation, but that just means the Senate can prolong it by not funding his Racism Memorial, and then blame the stump. 


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on January 08, 2019, 02:20:14 AM
Trump has done more impeachable things than any President that's been impeached so far, but still we should await Mueller's final report.

As for threatening to declare a state of emergency so that he can build his wall, I hope he gets smacked down hard.

The only place I might support building a wall is in an area along the Mexico-Arizona border where crossing in the heat of spring-summer-fall is deadly.  Human remains are often found there and it is very remote.  But would a wall here really save lives?  Probably not. people would still have to watch the wall to ensure no one climbs it or digs under it or blows a hole in it ....

https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2017/05/12/arizona-migration-tracked-online-death-map-human-remains/

But even a wall here would be problematic.  Indian Reservations and private ranches straddle the border. By treaty with the Tohono O'Odham we cannot divide their lands or we violate at least one treaty.

So, problems all around.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 08, 2019, 02:28:50 AM
We have infrared satellites, drones, the most sophisticated military, and most advanced law enforcement in human history.  If we're just talking about the border from Brownsville-to-Tijuana, then fucking fund it.  The Border Patrol need funding.  They need manpower.  I don't happen to believe that immigrants, legal or not are a problem for America.  Honestly, I'll even come right out and say the very concept of "You're not welcome here" is intrinsically unAmerican.

But, from a practical standpoint?  It would cost $Trillions less to secure the border with technology than to not secure it with the Mongol's plan.  (To keep out the Hun.)  We learned that, from China, in the Ming Dynasty!  Walls don't work.  Period.  Hell, Romulus (Mythically) demonstrated that shit.

If you ask me, we should devote more resources to ensure that they can get across the border, safely, and legally integrated into society.  The problem with that is Racism.  European Americans don't want America to become more Latin American.  


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on January 08, 2019, 02:35:14 AM
Making the analogy to the Great Wall of China.

+1

Even thought the Great Wall of China failed to keep out invaders, the invaders were quickly and very successfully assimilated.  Go figure.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 08, 2019, 02:37:25 AM
Even thought the Great Wall of China failed to keep out invaders, the invaders were quickly and very successfully assimilated.  Go figure.

Right.  The only way to eliminate illegal immigration is to facilitate legal immigration.

Also, if you make America great again, then everyone will want to come here, again.

Cause, and affect.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 08, 2019, 04:38:34 AM
Alex Ocasio-Cortez has the balls to call a racist a racist. (http://youtu.be/sZXyIazQbk8)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 08, 2019, 05:46:09 AM
Only six immigrants in terrorism database stopped by CBP at southern border in first half of 2018 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/only-six-immigrants-terrorism-database-stopped-cbp-southern-border-first-n955861)

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The low number contradicts statements by Trump administration officials, including White House press secretary Sarah Sanders, who said Friday that CBP stopped nearly 4,000 known or suspected terrorists from crossing the southern border in fiscal year 2018.

Not 4,000.  Not 400, Not 40.

6.  S-i-x.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 08, 2019, 02:53:33 PM
Charlottesville: Ex-Mason student sentenced to 3 years in prison for 'vicious' beating (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/01/07/charlottesville-man-sentenced-beating-charlottesville/2501487002/)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 08, 2019, 03:30:45 PM
Rick Borden said his so picked up a weapon in "Self defense."  1 Black man against how many white guys?

I wonder where he learned to defend himself against an unarmed black man, with a weapon, and countless men on his side?

I wonder who taught him to be such a coward.  1 man, got 3 years, for multiple counts of Attempted Murder.  He had Killer on his cap.  "I wasn't trying to kill him, it was self defense!"

The truth is, to white supremacists, blackness is a threat.  They feel threatened by black people, to the point that they feel justified, trying to beat them to death, in gangs, with weapons, because he was black.

It's sick, but we know where he got it from.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 08, 2019, 04:23:17 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwXpnRmUYAAL8ad.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwXpoJyVYAAsyto.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwXpo6pUwAAKCY9.jpg)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 08, 2019, 05:13:54 PM
 :emot_laughing:

I know, maybe he should build a wall around Florida to keep the hurricanes out!


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 08, 2019, 07:34:03 PM
So don’t go blaming the 4th Estate. They are doing their job.

Eh, I'd say yes and no.  There is no reason for the major networks to put Trump on television tonight -especially after they wouldn't for Obama in 2014, claiming his address was partisan.  

Then this morning I saw this come across my timeline:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwY-jI9WkAEKcbE.jpg:large)

I found that to be horseshit.  Their job is to find the truth and report it, I believe.  It's doubtful any of the major networks are going to call Trump out on this in real time, or cut him off when inevitibly starts lying.

Most people, if they watch, are going to shut it off after he's done talking anyway.  Basically the major network television executives are giving Trump airtime to promote racist lies, in order to protect the tax cut they were given last year.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 08, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
There is no reason for the major networks to put Trump on television tonight -especially after they wouldn't for Obama in 2014, claiming his address was partisan.

There's no reason for them not to.  He's dominated the news for a couple years now, even when he wasn't addressing the country directly, instead of via twitter.

Honestly, showing up to speak in person, instead of via twitter is newsworthy enough for me.  There's no reason to cover the NFL either, other than they know that people will watch it.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 08, 2019, 07:58:03 PM
Pence Blabbers Like a Moron When Asked About Past Presidents Supporting Trump's Wall (https://splinternews.com/pence-blabbers-like-a-moron-when-asked-about-past-presi-1831572329)

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Well, you, you, you...[audible sigh]... I I know the president has said that that was his impression, uh, from previous administrations, previous presidents. I know, I know I’ve seen clips of previous presidents talking about the importance of border security, the importance of addressing the issue of illegal immigration.

Quote
Each and every living president, for the record, has denied telling the president that they’re on his side when it comes to walling off the U.S.’ southern border.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on January 09, 2019, 02:00:17 AM
I loved it when folks in MAGA hats were asked if we should build a wall along the Atlantic coast to keep Muslims and Africans out and they said yes.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Elizabeth on January 09, 2019, 03:28:46 AM
I loved it when folks in MAGA hats were asked if we should build a wall along the Atlantic coast to keep Muslims and Africans out and they said yes.

No Matter where you look (or try not to look)....there they are......"Idiots".

Love,
Liz


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 11, 2019, 01:17:06 AM
Arizona High School Ref Fired For Asking If Basketball Team Had Their Green Cards (https://deadspin.com/arizona-high-school-ref-fired-for-asking-if-basketball-1831642285)

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 11, 2019, 12:46:09 PM
Trump could take billions from disaster areas to fund wall (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-could-take-billions-disaster-areas-fund-wall-n957281)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 13, 2019, 10:03:28 PM
The Tucker Carlson advertiser boycott continues, and what's wrong with that? (https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-tucker-carlson-boycott-20190111-story.html)

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Programs such as Carlson’s and Laura Ingraham’s — to mention a prior target of ad boycotters — espouse a monochromatic viewpoint. Carlson isn’t reporting news, but slathering an ideological spin over it. It’s impossible not to identify an advertiser with his viewpoint, because his show is nothing but viewpoint.

As we observed earlier a propos of Ingraham, companies have been comfortable advertising on these shows for two reasons. One is they covet their viewership, which is among the strongest on Fox.

They other is that they’re confident that customers who are disturbed by the shows’ views won’t even know the companies are advertising on them, because they don’t watch the shows. How many moderates or progressives even knew that Bowflex advertised on Carlson’s show, before its association was threatened with being made public?

The goal of the boycott advocates is to let those customers in on the secret. The advertisers bail, because they know in their souls that Carlson’s and Ingraham’s audiences aren’t big enough to compensate for the loss of customers nauseated by the Fox talkers, once the association becomes broadly known.

#Resist



Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 14, 2019, 08:23:20 PM
Trump Tries to Get Over Horrible Weekend With Some Vicious Racism (https://splinternews.com/trump-tries-to-get-over-horrible-weekend-with-some-vici-1831731397)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 14, 2019, 08:35:09 PM
A brief guide to Steve King’s ‘long history of racist statements’ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/13/brief-guide-steve-kings-long-history-racist-statements/?utm_term=.df2bf4a13001)

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On Saturday, after King’s lament in the New York Times that “white nationalist” had become a pejorative term, the Congressional Black Caucus said Republicans need to use more than words to denounce King.

Quote
The time he claimed “our civilization” can’t be restored with “somebody else’s babies”

In 2017, King tweeted that he agreed with far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders that “our civilization” cannot be restored “with somebody else’s babies.”

As The Washington Post’s Philip Bump wrote after King made the statement, the idea that national identity and racial identity overlap is at the center of white nationalism.

“The formulation of ‘our’ civilization being at risk from ‘somebody else’s babies” is a deliberate suggestion that American civilization is threatened by unnamed ‘others.’” Bump wrote.

The time King retweeted a message by a Nazi sympathizer and defended it for weeks

In June, King retweeted a post by Mark Collett. King declined to delete the retweet and spent weeks defending it.

Collett is a British author who, as The Post’s Avi Selk wrote, “questions the Holocaust, wants to separate the continents by races, blames slavery on Jews, mocks interracial children, wrote a book embracing National Socialism, and once called himself a ‘Nazi sympathizer.’”

On neo-fascist message boards, users celebrated a U.S. congressman’s endorsement of an overt National Socialist, Selk wrote.

The time he met with a far-right group with Nazi ties on a trip sponsored by a Holocaust memorial group

In October, during a trip financed by a Holocaust memorial group, King spoke to the Unzensuriert website. As The Post’s Mike DeBonis wrote, Unzensuriert is associated with Austria’s Freedom Party, was founded by a former Nazi SS officer and is led by Heinz-Christian Strache, who was active in neo-Nazi circles in his youth. The Freedom Party has embraced a hard-line anti-immigration stance, one that was echoed by King when he was there.

“What does this diversity bring that we don’t already have?” King said in the interview with the site. “Mexican food, Chinese food, those things — well, that’s fine. But what does it bring that we don’t have that is worth the price? We have a lot of diversity within the U.S. already.”

The time he said blacks and Latinos will be 'fighting each other’ before the United States becomes a majority-minority nation

Shortly after King was criticized for his comments about rebuilding Western civilization, King responded to a conversation between Fox News’s Tucker Carlson and Univision anchor Jorge Ramos about whites becoming a minority in the United States by 2044.

“Ramos’s stock in trade is identifying and trying to drive wedges between race,” King told Iowa radio host Jan Mickelson on 1040 WHO.

“When you start accentuating the differences, then you start ending up with people that are at each other’s throats. And he’s adding up Hispanics and blacks into what he predicts will be in greater number than whites in America. I will predict that Hispanics and the blacks will be fighting each other before that happens.”

The time he said black people could afford abortions if they stopped buying iPhones

In a September 2016 congressional hearing, King said that even if he succeeded in taking away Medicaid funding for abortion, blacks would find a way to end their pregnancies anyway.

According to Rewire, after saying that abortion was a “tragedy for any life, no matter what color,” King also responded that “they chose to have an abortion. I would give you even money that a vast majority of mothers who say they can’t afford an abortion have an iPhone, which costs more.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 16, 2019, 01:03:46 AM
House resolution to condemn White Nationalism. (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/425457-house-passes-resolution-condemning-white-nationalism)

America is not a white nation.  It never was.

#GoBackToEurope.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: MintJulie on January 16, 2019, 07:12:04 PM
Some people are defending 250-pound White man who knocked out 11-year-old Black girl (https://rollingout.com/2019/01/15/some-people-are-defending-white-man-who-knocked-out-11-year-old-black-girl/)


In this corner, weighing in at 250 pounds, 53 year old David Bell.
and
In this corner, an eleven year old girl, weighing 90 pounds soaking wet.

Video of the fight at the bottom of the page in the link provided.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 16, 2019, 09:35:05 PM
https://www.facebook.com/699942941/posts/10158314912517942/

Full video, including the assault, and 'gun' gesture toward the adult, by the girl who misjudged, when she threatened the adult, if not his family members prior.

Clearly self defense, IMHO, and expect charges will be dropped, perhaps other juvenile charges filed before the dust settles fully in this case.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 16, 2019, 10:33:42 PM
https://www.facebook.com/699942941/posts/10158314912517942/

Full video, including the assault, and 'gun' gesture toward the adult, by the girl who misjudged, when she threatened the adult, if not his family members prior.

Clearly self defense, IMHO, and expect charges will be dropped, perhaps other juvenile charges filed before the dust settles fully in this case.
Your idea of self defense seems to include reacting to a non-violent display by a child.

There was NO self-defense on Bell’s part. It was an un-warranted physical assault on the girl. Pretty much like me taking a baseball bat to you if you yell at me.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 16, 2019, 10:43:13 PM
Will be interesting to follow the court case then, and see the result.

Age of a person perpetuating an assault, on his family, then on him, is no matter when acting in self defense. A person being attacked may defend.

https://www.facebook.com/699942941/posts/10158314912517942/

Full video, including the assault, and 'gun' gesture toward the adult, by the girl who misjudged, when she threatened the adult, if not his family members prior.

Clearly self defense, IMHO, and expect charges will be dropped, perhaps other juvenile charges filed before the dust settles fully in this case.
Your idea of self defense seems to include reacting to a non-violent display by a child.

There was NO self-defense on Bell’s part. It was an un-warranted physical assault on the girl. Pretty much like me taking a baseball bat to you if you yell at me.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Katiebee on January 16, 2019, 10:52:55 PM
Self-defense is regulated by proportionate response. There was NO proportionate response to any provocation.

He is going down.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on January 16, 2019, 11:19:44 PM
If the little girl had blonde hair and blue eyes, the White Nationalists would be calling for the death penalty.  Racists gonna race.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 16, 2019, 11:50:30 PM
Age of a person perpetuating an assault, on his family, then on him, is no matter when acting in self defense. A person being attacked may defend.

What assault?  Self defense against what?  Being black?  It's about damned time that being black was not seen as an assault on White Nationalists.  

He pushed her, he is the aggressor.  She pointed at him.  Pointing at someone, sorry the "Gun gesture" is not an assault.  Pushing a child around?  That's assault on a minor.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 18, 2019, 01:32:53 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxE_F4uV4AUa_xO.jpg)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 18, 2019, 01:33:59 AM
After butting heads with Trump administration, top HUD official departs agency (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/top-hud-officials-departure-follows-disagreements-over-housing-policy-and-puerto-rico-disaster-funds/2019/01/16/e6ba5be4-1839-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ff81747d4f3c)

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Last fall, Patenaude expressed concern over the Trump administration’s intervention in disaster-recovery money that Congress had appropriated for Puerto Rico and states hit by hurricanes.

President Trump in late September grew incensed after hearing, erroneously, that Puerto Rico was using the emergency money to pay off its debt, according to two people with direct knowledge of Trump’s thinking.

Trump told then-White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly and then-Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney that he did not want a single dollar going to Puerto Rico, because he thought the island was misusing the money and taking advantage of the government, according to a person with direct knowledge of the discussions who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive internal deliberations. Instead, he wanted more of the money to go to Texas and Florida, the person said.

“POTUS was not consolable about this,” the person said.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 18, 2019, 01:34:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sCeMTB5P6U

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 18, 2019, 02:04:28 AM
ICE almost deported a U.S.-born Marine veteran, says ACLU (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/ice-almost-deported-u-s-born-marine-veteran-says-aclu-n959516)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 18, 2019, 02:11:08 AM
High School Students Bring Trump 2020 Flag To Basketball Game Against Predominantly Black School (https://deadspin.com/high-school-students-bring-trump-2020-flag-to-basketbal-1831844614)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 18, 2019, 02:59:15 AM
A Hillary banner, a Obama banner, and they are not flags, but banners, what is the difference? Seems folks are looking for animus in everyday social interaction and finding issues where there are none.

High School Students Bring Trump 2020 Flag To Basketball Game Against Predominantly Black School (https://deadspin.com/high-school-students-bring-trump-2020-flag-to-basketbal-1831844614)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 18, 2019, 03:10:00 AM
Wisconsin says sorry for its response to idiots dressed as Trump lynching Clinton and Obama (https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/10/29/13468492/wisconsin-nebraska-clinton-trump-obama-costumes)

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 18, 2019, 03:58:51 AM
GOP Rep. Jason Smith apologizes for telling Democrats to 'go back to Puerto Rico' (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/17/house-stopgap-bill-1109215)

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Cárdenas, a California Democrat of Mexican heritage, said in a statement Thursday night that he was "shocked" to hear Smith's words as he waited to speak on the floor and "often heard those kinds of comments" when he was a kid growing up outside Los Angeles.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 20, 2019, 01:14:24 AM
‘It was getting ugly’: Native American drummer speaks on the MAGA-hat-wearing teens who surrounded him (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/it-was-getting-ugly-native-american-drummer-on-the-maga-hat-wearing-teens-who-surrounded-him/2019/01/19/41678d84-1c1b-11e9-8813-cb9dec761e73_story.html?utm_term=.7faf4c477a28)

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The images in videos that went viral on social media Saturday showed a tense scene near the Lincoln Memorial.

In them, a Native American man steadily beats his drum at the tail end of Friday’s Indigenous Peoples March while singing a song of unity urging them to “be strong” in the face of the ravages of colonialism that now include police brutality, poor access to health care and the ill effects of climate change on reservations.

Surrounding him are a throng of young, mostly white teenage boys, several wearing “Make America Great Again” caps, with one standing about a foot from the drummer’s face also wearing a relentless smirk.

Nathan Phillips, a veteran in the indigenous rights movement, was that man in the middle.

In an interview Saturday, Phillips, 64, said he felt threatened by the teens and that they suddenly swarmed around him as he and other activists were wrapping up the march and preparing to leave.

Phillips, who was singing the American Indian Movement song that serves as a ceremony to send the spirits home, said he noticed tensions beginning to escalate when the teens and other apparent participants from the nearby March for Life rally began taunting the dispersing indigenous crowd.

A few people in the March for Life crowd began to chant “Build that wall, build that wall,” he said.

“It was getting ugly, and I was thinking: ‘I’ve got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial,’ ” Phillips recalled. “I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.”

So, he kept drumming and singing, thinking about his wife, Shoshana, who died of bone marrow cancer nearly four years ago, and the various threats that face indigenous communities around the world, he said.

“I felt like the spirit was talking through me,” Phillips said.

The encounter generated a wave of outrage on social media less than a week after President Trump made light of the 1890 Wounded Knee massacre of several hundred Lakota Indians by the U.S. Cavalry in a tweet that was meant to mock Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who Trump derisively calls “Pocahontas.”

In a statement, the Indigenous Peoples Movement, which organized Friday’s march, called the incident “emblematic of our discourse in Trump’s America.”

“It clearly demonstrates the validity of our concerns about the marginalization and disrespect of Indigenous peoples, and it shows that traditional knowledge is being ignored by those who should listen most closely,” Darren Thompson, an organizer for the group, said in the statement.

Rep. Deb Haaland (D-N.M.), who with Rep. Sharice Davids (D-Kan.) became the first Native American women elected to Congress last fall, said the video was difficult to watch.

“To see a group of students from a Catholic school who are practicing such intolerance is a sad sight for me,” said Haaland, who is Catholic.

Some of the teens in the video wore sweatshirts from Covington Catholic High School in Park Hills, Ky., which sent students to Washington to participate in Friday’s antiabortion March for Life event, according to an archived page of the school’s website that was taken down Saturday.

[A march takes on new meaning in the age of Trump]

School officials and the Roman Catholic Diocese of Covington released a joint statement Saturday.

“We condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students towards Nathan Phillips specifically, and Native Americans in general,” the statement said.

“The matter is being investigated and we will take appropriate action, up to and including expulsion.”

Chase Iron Eyes, an attorney with the Lakota People Law Project, said the incident lasted about 10 minutes and ended when Phillips and other activists walked away.

“It was an aggressive display of physicality. They were rambunctious and trying to instigate a conflict,” he said. “We were wondering where their chaperones were. [Phillips] was really trying to defuse the situation.”

Phillips, an Omaha tribe elder who fought in the Vietnam War and now lives in Michigan, has long been active in the indigenous rights movement.

A co-founder of the Native Youth Alliance cultural and education group, he shows up to Arlington National Cemetery every Veterans Day with a peace pipe to pay tribute to Native Americans who served in the U.S. military.

“My job has always been taking care of the fire, to keep the prayers going,” Phillips said.

In that role, he has encountered anti-Native American sentiment before: In 2015, Phillips was verbally attacked by a group of Eastern Michigan University students who were dressed as Native Americans during a theme party near the town of Ypsilanti, according to news reports.

Phillips had approached the group, informing them that their celebration was racially offensive, a local Fox News station reported. One of the students threw a beer can at him, Phillips told the news outlet.

But the Friday incident, combined with the ensuing attention from media outlets scrambling to get his story, left him shaken.

“I’m still trying to process what happened,” Phillips said. “I’m feeling a little bit overwhelmed.”

Still, he said, he hopes the teens will find a lesson in all of the negative attention generated by the videos.

“That energy could be turned into feeding the people, cleaning up our communities and figuring out what else we can do,” Phillips said. “We need the young people to be doing that instead of saying: ‘These guys are our enemies.’ ”

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 22, 2019, 03:08:01 AM
Old video surfaces of Covington Catholic students in black paint (https://nypost.com/2019/01/21/old-video-surfaces-of-covington-catholic-students-in-black-paint/)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 22, 2019, 03:09:19 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxaH-4oU0AADPEE.jpg:large)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 22, 2019, 03:33:16 AM
Don't Doubt What You Saw With Your Own Eyes (https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/dont-doubt-what-you-saw-with-your-own-eyes-1831931203)

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Right-wing trolls not only immediately proposed that the visibly aggressive teens, who were draped in the symbols of white nationalism and misogyny, were in fact the aggressed upon, but began a campaign of brutal online harassment against anyone—especially journalists and especially female journalists—who accurately described what they had seen, or reacted to it on the terms it deserved. In all it was an enactment of the culture-war tactics pioneered by Gamergate and used by Donald Trump to ascend to the pinnacle of global power: While random MAGA chuds and Pepes doxxed and threatened people online in an attempt to silence them and intimidate others, respectable types urged caution, proposing that if you were thoughtful enough you would perhaps realize that you hadn’t in fact seen what you had just seen, or that if you had, maybe it wasn’t that bad at all.

Hmm...

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 22, 2019, 03:56:44 PM
Colorado lawmaker Lori Saine claims blacks, whites were lynched in “nearly equal numbers” for being Republican following Reconstruction (https://www.denverpost.com/2019/01/21/colorado-lori-saine-republican-blacks-whites-lynched/)

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“I don’t know where she got her misleading and not factual information,” Herrod said.

According to the NAACP’s history of lynchings, nearly 73 percent of the 4,800 people lynched from 1882 until 1968 were black. It’s possible that some were also Republicans, but they were lynched because of the color of their skin and not their political party, Herod said.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 22, 2019, 09:04:17 PM
Let the Gaslighting Commence: Covington Catholic High School Edition (https://www.eclectablog.com/2019/01/let-the-gaslighting-commence-covington-catholic-high-school-edition.html)

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Here’s how we should know that what this young man is asserting above is nothing more than a weak attempt at revisionist history at best, and classic gaslighting at worst:

I taught high school music for 10 years, and took more kids on more off-campus field trips, band and solo festivals, concerts, auditions, honor band weekends, football games, marching band competitions, jazz band festivals, musicals, all-counties, all-states, and other various and assorted events than I can remember.

Under no circumstances, if we had been confronted while on a school-sanctioned field trip by a group of protesters shouting derogatory comments at us, would I have allowed or encouraged my students to respond in kind by shouting “school spirit chants” back at the protesters. All that does is escalate a potentially dangerous situation. It’s basically “Field Trip 101”–when bad, strange, or potentially dangerous stuff starts happening, get out of there.

Any teacher or administrator worth their school lunch would have quickly hustled those kids out of that location, making sure that no knuckleheads in their group started doing exactly what this kid says he asked his “teacher chaperones for permission” to do. I’ve seen other groups of kids pull this kind of stunt while on trips, and it always backfires–raising tensions, inflaming emotions, and egging on individuals with little impulse control to indulge their worst instincts. And it always seems to come from groups of students from “privileged” schools–kids who were born on 3rd base but are convinced they’ve hit a triple.

I’m not saying the Covington Catholic teachers didn’t give the kids permission to start their chants, because there is clearly an appalling lack of good judgement at this school, and among the school’s teachers and administrators–as evidenced by the fact they were on this “field trip”–to protest women’s right to control their own bodies–in the first place. That’s bad enough–full stop.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 22, 2019, 09:32:41 PM
High School Whose Students Taunted Predominantly Black School With Trump Flag Dropped Out Of MLK Day Tourney (https://deadspin.com/high-school-whose-students-taunted-predominantly-black-1831955184)

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What a sad scary time to be a young, upper-class, white male. Thoughts and prayers.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on January 23, 2019, 02:33:25 AM
Let the Gaslighting Commence: Covington Catholic High School Edition (https://www.eclectablog.com/2019/01/let-the-gaslighting-commence-covington-catholic-high-school-edition.html)

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Here’s how we should know that what this young man is asserting above is nothing more than a weak attempt at revisionist history at best, and classic gaslighting at worst:

I taught high school music for 10 years, and took more kids on more off-campus field trips, band and solo festivals, concerts, auditions, honor band weekends, football games, marching band competitions, jazz band festivals, musicals, all-counties, all-states, and other various and assorted events than I can remember.

Under no circumstances, if we had been confronted while on a school-sanctioned field trip by a group of protesters shouting derogatory comments at us, would I have allowed or encouraged my students to respond in kind by shouting “school spirit chants” back at the protesters. All that does is escalate a potentially dangerous situation. It’s basically “Field Trip 101”–when bad, strange, or potentially dangerous stuff starts happening, get out of there.

Any teacher or administrator worth their school lunch would have quickly hustled those kids out of that location, making sure that no knuckleheads in their group started doing exactly what this kid says he asked his “teacher chaperones for permission” to do. I’ve seen other groups of kids pull this kind of stunt while on trips, and it always backfires–raising tensions, inflaming emotions, and egging on individuals with little impulse control to indulge their worst instincts. And it always seems to come from groups of students from “privileged” schools–kids who were born on 3rd base but are convinced they’ve hit a triple.

I’m not saying the Covington Catholic teachers didn’t give the kids permission to start their chants, because there is clearly an appalling lack of good judgement at this school, and among the school’s teachers and administrators–as evidenced by the fact they were on this “field trip”–to protest women’s right to control their own bodies–in the first place. That’s bad enough–full stop.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 23, 2019, 04:02:23 PM
Covington Catholic kids defend wearing blackface on Fox News: ‘It’s just showing school spirit’ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/covington-catholic-kids-defend-wearing-blackface-fox-news-just-showing-school-spirit/)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 23, 2019, 04:08:15 PM
‘It’s just showing school spirit’

So, the school colors are black, and blue?  Probably so the bruises don't show from all the bullying.  That kind of atmosphere of intolerance breeds violent abusers.  Once you get rid of all the "Homos" the bullies turn on anyone perceived to be a "Homo."  


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 23, 2019, 04:08:22 PM
Four charged with having explosives, plotting to attack Muslim community (https://www.whec.com/news/three-local-men-charged-with-having-explosives-plotting-to-attack-muslim-community/5218306/?cat=565)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 24, 2019, 06:48:32 PM
Is Trump a Racist? (https://splinternews.com/is-trump-a-racist-1831965124)

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King, who has a long history of making racist remarks — and who once claimed that some immigrants had “calves the size of cantaloupes because they’re hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert” — wasn’t expelled from Congress after his comments were published by the Times, but was removed from all his committee seats in the House of Representatives. Other representatives are calling for his resignation.

But if King has been punished for his remarks, should Trump, who has also made racist comments, be punished as well? Can a president be punished in the same way as a lawmaker?

In a recent episode of “60 Minutes,” Anderson Cooper asked Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the freshman congresswoman from New York, if she thought Trump was a racist. Her answer was unequivocal: “Yeah, yeah. No question.”

Later, on Twitter, the 29-year-old representative — the youngest woman ever elected to the House — went into more detail: “The president defended neo-Nazis who murdered a woman in Charlottesville. The Department of Justice sued him for not renting to black tenants. He launched his campaign by calling Mexicans ‘rapists.’ He banned Muslims. The president is racist. And that should make you uncomfortable.”

Trump did indeed kick off his presidential campaign in June 2015 by focusing on Mexican immigrants. “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best,” he said. “They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

That is an openly racist remark.

But there’s more. In 2016, Trump suggested that Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge then presiding over a lawsuit against Trump University, could not be impartial due to his ethnicity. Trump said in a CNN interview then that the case represented a conflict of interest because Trump wanted to build a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico and Curiel was “of Mexican heritage.”

Believing that someone cannot do their job well because of their racial or ethnic background is one of the worst manifestations of racism. And that’s the thinking Trump played into. (It should be clarified that Judge Curiel, whose parents are Mexican, was, in fact, born in the state of Indiana.)

The president doesn’t think he is racist. “I’m the least racist person that you’ve ever met,” he said in a TV interview with CNN’s Don Lemon in late 2015.

It’s impossible to get into Trump’s head. I don’t know what’s in there. But I am well aware of what has come out of his mouth. And what I’ve heard are racist remarks.

What kind of punishment does a president who has said such things deserve? The only thing worse than a politician who unashamedly voices his prejudices is a group that tolerates his views, cheers him on and emulates his behavior. We have known about Trump’s racism for a long time, yet some 62 million Americans still voted for him.

But King’s punishment indicates that a change may be coming. I hope it goes beyond that.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 24, 2019, 06:49:23 PM
I don't think there's any question at this point, except for racists who want to make excuses, so it's "Not racist."  More specifically, he's a White Nationalist, which is a particularly dangerous form of Racism.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 24, 2019, 06:50:09 PM
The MAGA hat is not a statement of policy. It’s an inflammatory declaration of identity. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-maga-hat-is-not-a-statement-of-policy-its-an-inflammatory-declaration-of-identity/2019/01/23/9fe84bc0-1f39-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.6e87eec77d1e)

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The bright red Make America Great Again baseball cap entered the popular culture as candidate Donald Trump’s political swag. It has transformed into an open wound, a firestorm of hate and a marker of societal atavism.

An aesthetically benign baseball cap is a 21st-century grotesquerie.

Has there been in recent memory any other item of clothing — so specific in design and color — that pits neighbors against each other, causes classroom altercations, sparks both rage and fear, and ultimately alludes to little more than a mirage?

Fashion has upset the populace before. Miniskirts were an affront to tradition and decorum. Baggy jeans and hoodies riled the establishment. “Black Lives Matter” T-shirts and pink pussy hats were created to send a message of political protest.

But the Make America Great Again hat is not a statement of policy. It’s a declaration of identity.

The MAGA hat. The acronym reads like a guttural cry. An angry roar. MAA-GAA! It calls out to a time — back in some sepia-tinged period — when America was greater than it is now, which for a lot of Americans means a time when this country still had a lot of work to do before it was even tolerant — let alone welcoming — of them and their kind. Some see an era of single-income families, picket fences and unlocked doors. Others see little more than the heartbreak of redlining, walkers and beards, and the “problem that has no name.”

The past was not greater; it is simply the past. It’s only the soft-focus, judicious edit that looks so perfect and sweet.

In the beginning, the MAGA hat had multiple meanings and nuance. It could reasonably be argued that it was about foreign policy or tax cuts, social conservatism, the working class or a celebration of small-town life. But the definition has evolved. The rosy nostalgia has turned specious and rank. There’s nothing banal or benign about the hat, no matter its wearer’s intent. It was weaponized by the punch-throwing Trump rallygoers, the Charlottesville white supremacists, Trump’s nomination of Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh, Kanye West and proponents of the wall, the wall, the wall.

The hat has become a symbol of us versus them, of exclusion and suspicion, of garrulous narcissism, of white male privilege, of violence and hate. For minorities and the disenfranchised, it can spark a kind of gut-level disgust that brings ancestral ghosts to the fore. And here, in 2019, their painful past is present.

The MAGA hat speaks to America’s greatness with lies of omission and contortion. To wear a MAGA hat is to wrap oneself in a Confederate flag. The look may be more modern and the fit more precise, but it’s just as woeful and ugly.

To wear the hat, is to take on history and divisiveness. Because whatever personal meaning might be attached to the hat, the new broader cultural meaning overrides. It is too late to save the hat from this fate. And it’s too soon to try to reclaim it and give it new life.

The hat figured prominently in the viral video of young Nick Sandmann’s eye-to-eye encounter with the elderly Native American drummer, Nathan Phillips, at the Lincoln Memorial. Sandmann stood his ground. He had every right to remain there, the high schooler said during an interview on “Today.” Sandmann did not seem to consider whether it was actually the right thing to do.

How drastically his appearance changed from the fateful moment on the Mall to his appearance on national television. The world met Sandmann when he was wearing a red MAGA hat and a quilted parka. His mouth was turned up in a thin, wide smile that occasionally expanded into a toothy one. When he appeared on television to defend himself against accusations of racism and disrespect, he wore a heather gray zip-front pullover and a button-down shirt. His short brown hair was shiny. His large eyes rarely blinked. His voice was flat. The MAGA hat was gone.

Journalist Savannah Guthrie asked him whether he thought the public outrage over his behavior might have been different were it not for the hat. “That’s possible,” Sandmann said, which was his most self-aware utterance of the interview.

Last year, Kanye West knew that he was tossing a hand grenade into the social media universe when he tweeted a photograph of himself wearing a MAGA hat. It was a contrarian moment, an attempt to get a rise out of people — and, of course, he did.

The hat is a provocation. Is its corrosiveness too much for high school students to understand? No. They have studied American history. They can sort through complex issues related to the Second Amendment, climate change and abortion to not only have an opinion but also organize to change the opinion of others. They are digital natives who understand the power of images. Armed with so much knowledge, it is, perhaps, a more jolting loss, a graver reality, when youth is wrecked by the acid hatred symbolized by a hat.

To deny the hat’s message is to be in denial — not about a misunderstanding or an unfortunate incident, but a familiar, festering truth.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on January 24, 2019, 07:07:29 PM
I don't think there's any question at this point, except for racists who want to make excuses, so it's "Not racist."  More specifically, he's a White Nationalist, which is a particularly dangerous form of Racism.


Lindsey Graham sumed it up, ‘He wants people to like him.’  I’ll take it one step further, he wants people to idolize and adore him in every way possible.  To get that adoration, he’s willing to cater to them regardless of how reprehensible the base instincts of his, well base, are.

The racists idolize and adore him with their rabid frothing at the mouth cheering of him at rallies, and that’s what he wants.  So he’ll cater to their desires to continue to get his fix.  He doesn’t bother to parse if it’s wrong or right, such matters are in his mind not worthy of consideration or thought.  Only feeding his narcissism matters.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: psiberzerker on January 24, 2019, 07:09:28 PM
‘He wants people to like him.’  I’ll take it one step further, he wants people to idolize and adore him in every way possible.  Only feeding his narcissism matters.

Okay, but Racial Nationalists are Megalomaniacs.  (A specific kind of Malignant Narcissist.)  He needs adoration, but the Malignant part of it is also needing Inferiors to stomp down, and build a podium out of their bodies.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 25, 2019, 02:40:28 AM
Florida secretary of state resigns over blackface photos, ‘Katrina Victim’ T-shirt (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/24/florida-secretary-state-resigns-over-blackface-photos/?utm_term=.0fc9aa851f21)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Colin Piper on January 25, 2019, 12:58:20 PM
“The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page.” – Saint Augustine

Everyone needs to take a step outside the country they live in for a while to get a sense of how the rest of the world sees it. This discussion amuses and horrifies me.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 28, 2019, 07:02:28 PM
Tom Brokaw apologizes after saying 'Hispanics should work harder at assimilation’ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/28/tom-brokaw-apologizes-after-saying-hispanics-should-work-harder-assimilation/?utm_term=.fcbab924a008)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 30, 2019, 12:50:47 AM
Police Investigating Attack on Jussie Smollett as Possible Hate Crime (https://jezebel.com/police-investigating-attack-on-jussie-smollett-as-possi-1832159767)

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Sources directly connected to Jussie tell TMZ, the actor arrived in Chicago from New York late Monday, and at around 2 AM he was hungry and went to a Subway. We’re told when he walked out, someone yelled, “Aren’t you that f***ot ‘Empire’ n*****?”

The 2 men — both white and wearing ski masks — viciously attacked Jussie as he fought back, but they beat him badly and fractured a rib. They put a rope around his neck, poured bleach on him and as they left they yelled, “This is MAGA country.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 30, 2019, 02:32:58 AM
Exclusive: Clemson’s Black Players Refused to Accept Donald Trump’s Invitation to the McCookout (https://www.theroot.com/exclusive-clemson-s-black-players-refused-to-accept-do-1832135329)

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But The Root has learned that Clemson’s black players, some specifically citing racism and their disdain for Trump’s divisive politics, passed on the opportunity to hang out with the real-life Mayor McCheese.

The Root spoke with three black Clemson players who each separately confirmed that many players, both black and white, had no interest in making the trip. All three acknowledged that Donald Trump was the reason they chose not to attend. Even more telling, most of Clemson’s white players were in attendance while nearly three-fourths of the school’s black football players took a hard pass on the chance to eat cold fries with the president of people who eat salads from McDonald’s.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 30, 2019, 11:59:02 PM
UmmHmm... sounds very Chicago, I am sure, to everyone... yep..

Police Investigating Attack on Jussie Smollett as Possible Hate Crime (https://jezebel.com/police-investigating-attack-on-jussie-smollett-as-possi-1832159767)

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Sources directly connected to Jussie tell TMZ, the actor arrived in Chicago from New York late Monday, and at around 2 AM he was hungry and went to a Subway. We’re told when he walked out, someone yelled, “Aren’t you that f***ot ‘Empire’ n*****?”

The 2 men — both white and wearing ski masks — viciously attacked Jussie as he fought back, but they beat him badly and fractured a rib. They put a rope around his neck, poured bleach on him and as they left they yelled, “This is MAGA country.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 31, 2019, 12:05:25 AM
UmmHmm... sounds very Chicago, I am sure, to everyone... yep..

Fuck off you racist shitbird.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 31, 2019, 01:33:09 AM
EVERYONE knows white thugs in Chicago are MAGA enthusiasts, right, am I right? This is common knowledge in and about Chicago, or course.

Everyone knows this, and so no one will doubt the harebrained story Athos is pushing, that some random thugs, wearing ski masks (not MAGA hats) recognized a "star" from an obscure show, as they hung around a Subway sandwich store at 2AM, then beat him up... then yelled pro MAGA things at his broken, suffering, still alive... body, as it lay on the frozen street...

Did they tie his sneaker laces together and toss them over phone wires, too? Or is that too much of a NYC thing, not such a Windy City white thug thing...

Did the thugs steal his smartphone, or did he still have it to tweet about his bruised rib...? Must have missed it... I guess...

Did they steal his Subway sandwich? What sandwich did he order?

Does anything ring true about this FAKE NEWS story?

Inquiring minds want to know!

UmmHmm... sounds very Chicago, I am sure, to everyone... yep..

Fuck off you racist shitbird.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 31, 2019, 01:35:39 AM
I'm not surprised you are defending a police department that covered up the murder of a civilian by an officer shooting him 16 times, 9 in the back.

The funny thing is if it was gun violence you'd go back to your bullet scarred racist thread.

Don't you have a white sheet to wash before you go have sex with Richard Spencer?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 31, 2019, 02:14:07 AM
WTF are you ranting about? What Police department are you upset about, and what if any connection is there to the story you are pushing of assault outside a Subway sandwich store, open at 2am, which turns into every cookie cutter type report of victimhood by the perps, who cannot be described except for those wishing to Make America Great Again, and as white guys, wearing ski masks... who we are to believe are so well versed in leftist obscure actors, they either stalked, or just for the hell of it, singled this one out... What, no white van...

Were DNA samples taken when the victim was hospitalized? Was he hospitalized, even? RapeKit swaps to run in the database, or at least rule out some abusers? How do you know he was not raped? lol...

You believe this stuff, and present it here along with your usual dozen cut and paste items you blame on President Trump, and rarely need to defend as any relevance, and expect it will be swallowed whole...

Enjoy your warm climate, chump...

I'm not surprised you are defending a police department that covered up the murder of a civilian by an officer shooting him 16 times, 9 in the back.

The funny thing is if it was gun violence you'd go back to your bullet scarred racist thread.

Don't you have a white sheet to wash before you go have sex with Richard Spencer?

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 31, 2019, 02:39:19 AM

You believe this stuff, and present it here along with your usual dozen cut and paste items you blame on President Trump,

Do you have a credible verifible source to refute things?  No. you never do.  All you have is your racist ranting, shitbird.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: joan1984 on January 31, 2019, 03:18:42 AM
Common sense.

And, what was your ranting about Police?
Details please, how Police are relevant to your 'story', dragging MAGA into some actor being supposedly injured on a Chicago street. What happened to his sandwich?


You believe this stuff, and present it here along with your usual dozen cut and paste items you blame on President Trump,

Do you have a credible verifible source to refute things?  No. you never do.  All you have is your racist ranting, shitbird.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 31, 2019, 03:40:22 AM
Common sense.

Your concept of common sense is to defend racists, child rapists, sexual assaulters, grifters, committers of treason and classists.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on January 31, 2019, 12:47:20 PM
Signs displaying swastikas briefly posted near Skyline High School in Mesa (https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa/2019/01/30/posters-displaying-swastikas-briefly-posted-near-skyline-high-school-mesa/2720894002/?cid=twitter_azcentral)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 01, 2019, 12:48:53 AM
Persons of interest in Jussie Smollett attack captured on camera, police say (https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/jussie-smollett-empire-racist-homophobic-attack-police/)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 02, 2019, 01:14:52 AM
For years, Trump bashed the NFL and players who protested racial injustice. Here’s why he stopped (https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-nfl-20190201-story.html)

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But the decision that year of San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick to kneel during the national anthem, to protest police brutality and racial injustice, proved too alluring for the president. Trump wrapped himself around an American flag pole at rallies, stoking white racial anxiety.

“Whenever the president finds himself in a political pickle — to put it crudely — he reaches for the culture wars,” said Eddie S. Glaude Jr., chairman of the Center for African American Studies at Princeton University.

The president ignored the racial message that the mostly African American players sought to convey. He learned quickly that he could elicit loud, appreciative boos whenever he disparaged Kaepernick or accused players of disrespecting the anthem and the flag.

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 04, 2019, 03:08:46 AM
A Conservative Nonprofit That Seeks to Transform College Campuses Faces Allegations of Racial Bias and Illegal Campaign Activity (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-conservative-nonprofit-that-seeks-to-transform-college-campuses-faces-allegations-of-racial-bias-and-illegal-campaign-activity)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: ToeinH2O on February 04, 2019, 07:14:00 AM
A Conservative Nonprofit That Seeks to Transform College Campuses Faces Allegations of Racial Bias and Illegal Campaign Activity (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-conservative-nonprofit-that-seeks-to-transform-college-campuses-faces-allegations-of-racial-bias-and-illegal-campaign-activity)

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Kirk acknowledged in an interview that it is something of an irony that he heads an organization devoted to waging political warfare on campuses when he never actually attended college himself. “I joke that I wasn’t smart enough to go to a four-year school,” Kirk told me, although he noted that he continued his studies at a community college.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 04, 2019, 03:15:37 PM
Why They Kneel: Everything We Said About Police Brutality Was Wrong (https://www.theroot.com/why-they-kneel-everything-we-said-about-police-brutali-1832259986#_ga=2.226555608.475240805.1547771702-721333388.1530666123)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 04, 2019, 03:17:50 PM
Cardi B Turned Down Super Bowl Offer to Support Colin Kaepernick, Report Says (https://splinternews.com/cardi-b-turned-down-super-bowl-offer-to-support-colin-k-1832304558)

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“I got to sacrifice a lot of money to perform. But there’s a man who sacrificed his job for us, so we got to stand behind him,” she told the AP.

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Speaking about her husband, rapper Offset, Cardi B told the AP, “My husband, he loves football. His kids play football. It’s really hard for him...He really wants to go to the Super Bowl, but he can’t go to the Super Bowl, because he’s got to stand for something.”

#Resist


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 05, 2019, 07:58:29 AM
Here Are The Racist Conspiracy Emails Rotting Right-Wing Billionaire Joe Ricketts' Brain (https://splinternews.com/here-are-the-racist-conspiracy-emails-rotting-right-win-1831199766)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 05, 2019, 09:23:47 PM
‘What black girl magic looks like’: White officer demoted for mocking black woman whose car he impounded (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/02/01/white-officer-uses-black-history-month-captions-snapchat-mock-woman-whose-car-he-impounded/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b645d0664b18)

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A veteran Detroit police officer has been demoted and reassigned after posting a Snapchat video showing a black woman whose car he had just impounded walking home alone while he and another officer make derogatory remarks about her to each other in the background.

Meanwhile, pre-made captions that say “What black girl magic looks like” and “celebrating Black History Month” appear at the bottom.

The officer who created the video was identified as Gary Steele. He and his partner had pulled the woman over on Tuesday night because her registration had expired, police said. The officers were going to have her vehicle towed.

Detroit Police Chief James Craig told reporters at a news conference Thursday that body camera footage had shown that there was an offer — from either Steele or his partner — to escort her home. The woman refused, Craig said.

“She gets to do that, but we get to make sure she gets safely home,” Craig said. “But then to put up this insensitive post makes me angry.”

The Snapchat video, which was first published by ABC affiliate WXYZ, shows the woman walking away down a snow-covered street.

“Priceless,” one of the officers says.

“Walk of shame,” the other responds.

“In the cold,” the first one says again. Later one of the two says, “Bye, Felicia.”

The temperature low on Tuesday was 2 degrees in Detroit, according to AccuWeather.

Craig said that Steele, an 18-year veteran of the police department, had been demoted from corporal to officer.

“I’m not troubled, not disappointed; I am angry,” Craig said. “To make the reference to Black History Month is even more problematic.”

Craig said that the department was continuing to look into the incident and that Steele’s partner was also being investigated. Steele did not return a request for comment sent to his LinkedIn profile.

The woman whom the police had stopped was identified by local news outlets as Ariel Moore.

“What they put on there, that’s racist,” her mother, Monique Mobley, told WXYZ. “They demeaned my child for no reason.”

Moore told the outlet she was shocked.

Steele has had issues with the law himself. In 2008, he was charged with attacking an ex-girlfriend and firing a gun near her head, according to the Detroit News. He pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and was able to keep his job at the police department, the newspaper reported.

“His history is troubling,” Craig said. “There’s a pattern, and I’m concerned about that pattern.”

He added: “He’s been a part of the force for 18½ years, who we expect to know better. This is a person who trains new officers.”

Craig said the officer could be suspended or fired. He said he called Moore’s mother to express his concerns about the way her daughter was treated. The department would pay the fee for towing her car, he said.

Another white Detroit police officer made a Snapchat post widely interpreted as racist last year. The video showed him in uniform with the text, “Another night to rangel [sic] up these zoo animals.” That officer, who was still on a probationary period at work, was fired.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Lois on February 06, 2019, 02:12:36 AM
There is no need to impound a car for expired tags.  Wherever I've lived I've just gotten a fix-it-ticket.  This must be white privilege.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Jed_ on February 06, 2019, 02:54:40 AM
There is no need to impound a car for expired tags.  Wherever I've lived I've just gotten a fix-it-ticket.  This must be white privilege.

I once got a threat to tow and impound, most likely due to the 50+ Grateful Dead stickers on my Toyota pickup (those stickers might be similar to being black when you’re pulled over?).  Once the officer checked my clean record, he got more reasonable and listened when I explained I had recently moved and must not have received a forward of my renewal despite filing all paperwork with the US Postal Service.  Turns out, and that cop should have been able to check, I did renew and was legal, but the registration was sent to my old address.

His first reaction was to tow and impound, and I’m sure that reaction was based on his perception of me based on my Deadmobile.  It sounds like this young black woman experienced a similar kneejerk reaction.

But again, I’m white.


Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 07, 2019, 12:43:15 PM
‘You call this justice’: No charges against officer who killed black man he mistook for a mall shooter (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/02/06/you-call-this-justice-no-charges-against-officer-who-killed-black-man-he-mistook-mall-shooter/?utm_term=.366095cf13fd)

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A police officer who shot and killed a black man during a shootout inside an Alabama mall will not face criminal charges.

A report released by the state’s attorney general’s office says that the officer “reasonably exercised” his power when he shot Emantic “EJ” Fitzgerald Bradford Jr. three times. In the seconds-long chaos of that Thanksgiving night, the officer saw Bradford holding a gun, just feet away from a man who had just been shot. He saw the 21-year-old as “an immediate deadly threat to innocent civilians,” the report says, even though Bradford never fired his gun.

Bradford’s death last November reignited racial tensions in Alabama, where protesters marched through the Riverchase Galleria in the city of Hoover, demanding why police killed a black man who may not have had anything to do with the shooting.

Now, more than two months later, the decision to not charge the officer has renewed that outrage. On Tuesday evening, protesters outside Hoover City Hall burned American flags spray-painted with “BLACK LIVES DON’T MATTER,” as police officers watched from a short distance. Frank Matthews, one of the organizers, told the Associated Press that demonstrators, including Bradford’s relatives, will travel to Montgomery, Ala., on Wednesday to protest outside the office of Attorney General Steve Marshall.

“Today took us by surprise. Some were expecting today’s outcome; some weren’t,” Iva Williams, of the Birmingham Justice League, told reporters Tuesday. “But nevertheless, we stay united in seeking social justice moving forward.”

The 26-page report released on the same day pieced together the rapid sequence of events that began with two gunshots just before 10 p.m. on Nov. 22, during early Black Friday shopping at the Galleria.

Erron Brown, the man who police later said was the actual shooter, allegedly shot 18-year-old Brian Wilson on the mall’s second-floor walkway and left him lying outside a JC Penney store. Brown ran toward the store as mall shoppers scurried away. Bradford, who was nearby, ran in the opposite direction. But he then turned around and headed toward the JC Penney and Wilson, with his gun drawn, the report says.

The officer and his partner, both of the Hoover Police Department, were behind him, just a few feet away. Believing that Bradford was about to kill Wilson, who was already bleeding with gunshot wounds, the officer fired four shots. He struck Bradford in the head, neck and lower back.

But what the officer didn’t see in the immediate chaos was Brown, who shot Wilson just seconds earlier, the report says.

Witnesses told investigators that they heard the officer tell Bradford to drop his weapon. But the officer told investigators that he was unable to give verbal commands because of the “quickness of the event” and the “immediate threat” he believed Bradford posed, according to the report.

The report says that the officer’s actions were consistent with nationally-accepted standards for active shooter scenarios. That he mistakenly believed Bradford shot the victim “does not render his actions unreasonable,” the report says.

“First, a reasonable person could have assumed that the only person with a gun who was running toward the victim of a shooting that occurred just three seconds earlier fired the shots,” the report says, adding that the other officer and two other witnesses all said that, at that moment, they also believed Bradford was the shooter.

Brown, 20, has been charged with attempted murder. His attorneys said he shot Wilson in self-defense, according to the report, which did not say how the two men knew each other. There has been no evidence that Bradford was involved in the shooting, and it remains unclear why he drew his gun.

The report also did not say whether he knew that the officers were behind him. Although the officer was wearing a body camera, he did not activate it before he shot Bradford. There was “no time” to do so, he told investigators.

Bradford’s parents and a family attorney said earlier that he had a concealed-handgun license. The officer, who was not named, was placed on administrative leave after the shooting, though it was not immediately clear if he has been reinstated. The Hoover Police Department have not responded to a request for comment Wednesday.

Outside Hoover City Hall on Tuesday evening, activists vowed to not stay silent. Bradford’s relatives, including his mother, held pictures of him in military uniform. (A spokesman for the Army told The Washington Post last year that Bradford began training but never completed it.)

“You shoot my firstborn son three times, three kill shots and you call this justice. How dare you. If this happened to your child, would you still call it justice? Because I don’t see any justice in this,” Bradford’s mother, April Pipkins, said in front of reporters, her eyes watery.

“He didn’t deserve what you did to him. . . . If you felt like he was a threat, you had to shoot him three times? And you say that the law justifies this? No verbal warning. Shame on you. Shame on you,” Pipkins continued.

Bradford lived just outside of Birmingham, a few miles from the mall. He was one of the nearly 1,000 people who were shot and killed by police in 2018, according to The Post’s database of police shootings, and is now among the many black men whose deaths have led to accusations of systemic racism in U.S. law enforcement.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 08, 2019, 01:42:52 AM
Virginia Sen. Tommy Norment was an editor for VMI yearbook filled with racist photos and slurs (https://pilotonline.com/news/government/politics/virginia/article_d4ce7700-2ae3-11e9-ace9-ff7814740140.html)

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/0e42110c65d57aa0029a291585e200f5/tenor.gif?itemid=5236565)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 08, 2019, 01:43:30 AM
Virginia Police Sergeant Suspended After Antifa Group Identifies White Nationalist Ties (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/06/us/virginia-cop-white-supremacist.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 08, 2019, 01:45:39 AM
The Cruel and Kind Intentions of Blackface
(https://theslot.jezebel.com/the-cruel-and-kind-intentions-of-blackface-1832403309)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 08, 2019, 01:46:15 AM
Gucci Pulls $890 Sweater Following Blackface Backlash (https://jezebel.com/gucci-pulls-890-sweater-following-blackface-backlash-1832425135)

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 08, 2019, 01:47:22 AM
Phoenix Police dispute Cindy McCain’s claim of human trafficking at airport (http://ktar.com/story/2427834/phoenix-police-dispute-cindy-mccains-claim-of-human-trafficking-at-airport/)

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“I came in from a trip I’d been on and I spotted — it looked odd — it was a woman of a different ethnicity than the child, this little toddler she had, and something didn’t click with me. … I went over to the police and told them what I saw and they went over and questioned her and, by God, she was trafficking that kid,” McCain said.

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Title: Re: Racism is alive and well, Thanks Trump and his supporters!
Post by: Athos_131 on February 10, 2019, 02:11:50 AM
Exclusive: Thousands of Black Votes in Georgia Disappeared and No One Can Explain It (https://www.theroot.com/exclusive-thousands-of-black-votes-in-georgia-disappea-1832472558)

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The nonprofit group, Coalition for Good Governance, discovered that approximately 127,000 Georgia voters simply did not have a recorded vote for lieutenant governor. Officials claimed that most of these voters simply left that part of their ballot blank. And for some reason, the “drop-off” (the difference between people who voted and people who skipped one race) was disproportionately Democrat.

They had never seen it before. The drop-off rate in Georgia was higher than almost any statewide office drop-off rate they had ever seen. So they gathered the best minds in the election data field from across country to try to figure out the mystery of Georgia’s disappearing votes. It seemed so random. Researchers researched, voting machine experts looked at the machines’ known vulnerabilities and professors ran analytics and statistical regressions. But no one could figure out the pattern.

And then, just for kicks, they decided to run a statistical analysis by race. And viola, they discovered that an incredibly disproportionate number of Georgia voters in majority black precincts didn’t record a vote for the second-highest office in the state. They found the anomaly was incredibly high in precincts where there were high percentages of black registered voters.

And here is the troubling part: According to the report from Coalition for Good Governance (CGG) and the experts who spoke with The Root, the undervote wasn’t concentrated in Democratic areas. It seemed to specifically happen in black neighborhoods. Even stranger, the black voters’ absentee mail ballots didn’t reflect the drop-off, only the people who voted on election day and people who voted on machines in early voting.

The CGG’s report notes:

The extreme undervote issue occurred at statistically significant levels in 101 of Georgia’s 159 counties. However, the undervotes on voting machines are concentrated in precincts where African American voters make up the majority of the precincts’ registered voters. The rates of touchscreen machine–reported undervotes in such precincts in the Lt. Governor contest are far greater than the undervote rates in non–African American neighborhoods regardless of whether those neighborhoods lean Democratic or Republican. The undervote problem did not happen at the same exaggerated levels in many primarily White neighborhoods that overwhelmingly voted for Stacey Abrams and other Democrats, rebutting the argument that the difference can be explained by party-driven voter behavior.

The Root was given exclusive access to the analyzed data from the 2018 Georgia elections as well as the analyses conducted by some of the top experts in the area. We spoke to the researchers and none of them has a logical explanation for the statistical anomaly.

The statistics professor from Berkeley can’t explain it. The voting-machine expert at the University of Michigan doesn’t know how it happened. The data analyst from