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« on: January 10, 2012, 03:20:15 PM »

I think this letter says it all that a lot of us, although it's all been said before it's nice to see the thoughts collected into a nicely scripted letter. Will those it's aimed at read it, I doubt it, they're too busy hating something to actually recognise themselves when described in print. Still there might be one or two that get the point and realise how they appear to other people, however these are the sort of people that lack any feelings of shame or remorse so it's likely they'll be unaffected. All the same it's a nice succinct way of describing the GOP and their supporters.

Another thing is this letter points out all they hypocritical thinking that leaves most Americans shaking their heads when it comes to today's GOP.

Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 01:57 PM PST
An open letter to the people who hate Obama more than they love America
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I meet you all the time. You hate Obama. You hate gay people. You hate black people, immigrants, Muslims, labor unions, women who want the right to make choices concerning their bodies, you hate em all. You hate being called racist. You hate being called a bigot. Maybe if you talked about creating jobs more than you talk about why you hate gay people we wouldn't call you bigots. Maybe if you talked about black people without automatically assuming they are on food stamps while demanding their birth certificates we wouldn't call you racist. You hate socialism and social justice. You hate regulations and taxes and spending and the Government. You hate.

You like war. You like torture. You like Jesus. I don't know how in the hell any of that is compatible, but no one ever accused you haters of being over-committed to ideological consistency. You like people who look like you or at least hate most of the things that you hate. You hate everything else.

Now, I know you profess to love our country and the founding fathers (unless you are reminded that they believed in the separation of church and state), but I need to remind you that America is NOT what Fox News says it is. America is a melting pot, it always has been. We are a multi-cultural amalgamation of all kinds of people, and yet you still demonize everyone who is not a rich, white, heterosexual christian male or his submissive and obedient wife.

You hate liberals, moderates, hell, anyone who disagrees with Conservative dogma as espoused by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. You hate em.

Well, here are the facts, Jack. If you hate the Government then you are unqualified to manage it. If you hate gay people more than you love America than you should take your own advice and get the hell out. There are several countries that are openly hostile to gay people, but they are full of brown people and you don't like them much either from what I understand. It looks like you are screwed, but that's not what I am here to tell you.

More rant below the fold . . .

Now that you have thrown everything and the kitchen sink at President Obama and it still hasn't worked you are panicking. Obama's approval ratings are still near 50% despite your best efforts to undermine the economy and America's recovery at every step you can. You tried to hold the American economy hostage to force America into default on its' debts, debts that YOU rang up under Bush, so you could blame it on Obama and it failed. You've used the filibuster more than any other Congress ever, going so far as to vote against providing health care access to 9/11 first responders. You remember 9/11, don't you, it's that thing you used to lie us into a war in Iraq, and then when Obama killed Bin Laden and ended the war in Iraq you told people that he hates America and wants the troops to fail. You monsters. You hate Obama with a passion, despite the fact that he is a tax cutting, deficit reducing war President who undermines civil rights and delivers corporate friendly watered down reforms that benefit special interests just like a Republican. You call him a Kenyan. You call him a socialist. You dance with your hatred singing it proudly in the rain like it was a 1950's musical.

Frankly, you disgust me. Your hatred nauseates me. Your bigotry offends me. Your racism revolts me.

Dear haters, I am openly questioning your patriotism.

I think you hate gays, Obama, black people, poor people, all of us, women, atheists and agnostics, Latinos, Muslims, Liberals, all of us, I think you hate every one who isn't exactly like you, and I think you hate us more than you love your country.

I think you hate gay soldiers more than you want America to win its' wars.

I don't even think you want America to win wars, you just want America to have wars, never ending wars and the war profiteering it generates. You love that kind of spending, you love spending on faith based initiatives and abstinence based sex education (George Carlin would have loved that one), you love spending on subsidies for profitable oil corporations, you spend like drunken sailors when you are in the White House, but if it is a Democrat then suddenly you cheer when America doesn't get the Olympics because it might make the black President look bad. But oooh you love your country, you say, and you want it back. Well listen here skippy, it isn't your country, you don't own it, it is our country, and America is NOT the religiously extremist Foxbots who hate science, elitist professors and having a vibrant and meaningful sex life with someone we love if Rick Santorum doesn't approve of it. Rick Santorum isn't running for America's fucking high school dance chaperone, he should probably just shut the hell up about sex, but he can't because he has nothing else to run on.

Republicans can NOT win on the issues. They've got NOTHING. All they have is a divide and conquer class war that pits ignorant racist and bigoted people against the rest of us in a meaningless battle of wedge issues and the already proven to fail George W. Bush agenda again of tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, privatization and war profiteering and nothing else, so all they can do is blame black people, gays the government, anybody and everyone else for their own failings. The party of personal responsibility, my ass.

But they love multi-national corporations, just ask a gay hating and racist religious extremist if they think Corporations are people and they will gladly agree, but if you ask them if gay people are people they aren't so sure.

Dear haters, you are the cruel, heartless misinformed assholes who would sell America out to Haliburton in a heartbeat, you would rather pay ZERO taxes than you would see a newly born baby get access to quality health care, you cheer when we discuss denying health care to young people with preventable diseases, and you boo when we discuss the First Ladies plan to cut back on childhood obesity. You are a cross to carry and a flag to wrap yourself in away from being the people who Upton Sinclair, warned us about, but I guarantee that if Fox News told you to dress that way you would, because you are the same blind, ignorant and closed minded dunces who drove this country into a civil war years ago because you are bound to the notion that some men are more equal than others. In short, the reason I proudly wear my union army hat is because of seditious sell outs like you who constantly fuck over working class Americans so a foreign entrepreneur like Rupert Murdoch can get a bigger tax break. If corporations are people, they are neither American patriots nor capable of love. Just like you.

So stop wearing your hate with pride. Stop celebrating your anti-science, anti-math ignorance. Stop using code words to mask your bigotry like "family values", especially when you hate my family and when you stand on the same stage as a guy who has had three marriages or if you share a seat in the Senate with a guy who cheated on his wife with hookers while wearing diapers. You should be ashamed. I know that you are just doing this to motivate your misinformed hate cult base because if they actually knew that your ideas will make them poorer than they are now, they would never vote for you. You are doing your best to impoverish your countrymen so rich people can get bigger tax breaks and you can keep on delivering corporate welfare to the special interests who have bribed you, and I am disgusted by the way you gleefully parade your hatred with aplomb. I don't think you do love America. At least, not as much as you hate everyone in America who isn't exactly like you.

You should think about that, and maybe get some help.

And for the record, I do not hate you. I am embarrassed by you and nauseated by your cruel and thoughtless behavior and your all consuming greed, but I don't not hate you. I forgive you and I hope you can change someday, but I don't hate you. You have enough hate in you for the rest of us as it is.
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 05:15:19 PM »

Sounds to me like this was penned by someone with many issues of their own. I strongly support the GOP, but I don't hate anything. Do I dislike being controlled by big government? Hell yes. Do I dislike supporting those that feel entitled while my family gets by with what we have and what we earned? Hell yes.

But to generalize everyone that is conservative sounds like a lot of hate bottled up to me.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012, 05:26:52 PM »

It is obvious that the author would hate to sign this-RHL
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012, 07:34:34 PM »

Sounds to me like this was penned by someone with many issues of their own. I strongly support the GOP, but I don't hate anything. Do I dislike being controlled by big government? Hell yes. Do I dislike supporting those that feel entitled while my family gets by with what we have and what we earned? Hell yes.

But to generalize everyone that is conservative sounds like a lot of hate bottled up to me.


There is no reasoning with people who think like this, whether they express it or not.
They must therefore simply be defeated, as no other reasonable course is apparent.

What comes to mind is the old saw: "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time, and annoys the pig."  Four more years of this?!  I think not.

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 09:28:33 PM »

This was a rant. Not very unlike similar rants I've seen or heard. What is different about this rant is that it wasn't by a conservative. Rants tend to contain a bit of truth, somewhere, but it's on an emotional roll, and isn't restricted by facts, specificity, or fairness. Like all rants it cherry picks items and blows them out of proportion.

Unfortunately, some of what this rant is about isn't about a small sub-section of our demographic, it dips deeply into a few very broad swaths of our society.

I offer for your consideration the notion that if it hadn't been for liberals, this country would not have been created, the Constitutution would not have been written, and American values would not exist.

In fact, most of the people voicing their disapproval of the current Obama administration would have been Tories in 1776, for the very same reasons that they oppose the "liberals" today.

So, is the OP a bit shrill and extreme? Yes. Is he also voicing concern of real problems that we should all be seriously thinking about without regard to ideology?

Yes. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 12:24:49 AM »

I think the article in first post shows how many right wingers are perceived by the American people. 
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 12:36:20 AM »

I think the article in first post shows how many right wingers are perceived by the American people.  

I think it is fair to say that some people, liberal and conservative, see the "left wing" or the "right wing" as zealots who will stop at nothing to have their way. Both sides have fringe players, who garner much of the 'entertainment' press coverage on nightly TV, of whom few are truly proud.

Reasonable people will look at what they see with their own eyes, and try to imagine their children, niece, nephew, neighbors' futures, and when presented with options will choose what is best for them and theirs.

It is too easy, if fulfilling at times, to highlight the extremes of our political opponents, as to judge the whole lot by such fools. I fully expect much mischief for the balance of 2012, from all sides. May we each have the patience and fortitude to sort it all through.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 04:10:42 AM »

I try to keep my expectations low. That way, I can be pleasantly surprised.

It's really shitty when your political leaders can't even live up to their own low standards.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 04:31:06 PM »

So if the GOP is not the party of hate, how does the GOP explain Rick Santorum?  (It turns out he won in Iowa btw, so his sentiments were clearly shared by Iowa's GOP voters.)

Rick Santorum… wow
Seriously, hasn’t anyone told Rick Santorum that he’s gay? Only a self-hating closet case could be this much of a fucktard. That’s where he tells a high school class that they are better off having parents in prison than having gay parents. No word on how the three kids with gay parents in the audience reacted.

Of course, this is the same toolbag who thinks that contraception should be made illegal.

Here is an actual Rick Santorum quote:
 “One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.” And also, “Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that’s okay, contraception is okay. It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”


http://randazza.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/rick-santorum-wow/
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 05:56:03 PM »

I try to keep my expectations low. That way, I can be pleasantly surprised.

It's really shitty when your political leaders can't even live up to their own low standards.

LOL
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2017, 01:01:40 PM »

Sometimes zombie posts should be resurrected to walk the earth again. In my opinion, this is one such zombie.
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2017, 02:30:01 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2017, 12:13:39 AM »

I try to keep my expectations low. That way, I can be pleasantly surprised.

It's really shitty when your political leaders can't even live up to their own low standards.

WAIT.....!!!!!!
They Have Standards......??
Say It Isn't So.........

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