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Reply #600 on: October 28, 2018, 12:50:11 AM
There's no "Both sides," when it comes to America vs the Nazis.  Even a fucking self absorbed Moron should be able to see the greater evil there.  If you don't condemn them, they don't need encouragement.  They don't need to be defended, they're fucking Nazis.  Condoning their right to march, armed down our streets encourages every anti-semite, and other racist in the country, and now it's come to this.  Zero Tolerance. 

You see this?

It means Not Welcome.

#AntiFa.
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Reply #601 on: November 01, 2018, 11:24:20 PM
There's no "Both sides," when it comes to America vs the Nazis.  Even a fucking self absorbed Moron should be able to see the greater evil there.  If you don't condemn them, they don't need encouragement.  They don't need to be defended, they're fucking Nazis.  Condoning their right to march, armed down our streets encourages every anti-semite, and other racist in the country, and now it's come to this.  Zero Tolerance.  

You see this?

It means Not Welcome.

#AntiFa.


Actually there is.  The man that shot up the Pittsburgh Synagogue WAS a white supremacist that was extremely anti-Trump and believed that he was being "controlled by the Jews" he even said that he couldn't bring himself to touch a MAGA hat.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/29/donald-trump-robert-bowers-racist-anti-semitic-synagogue-shooting-column/1800755002/

So, clearly, yes, it goes BOTH ways.

And let's not forget that the left is so full of hate that they are shooting up Republican headquarters...and that's not something that we see the other side doing

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/29/four-shots-fired-into-republican-party-office-florida/?utm_term=.03a11dde2e96

And let's not forget the Antifa man that so hated people that didn't think just like him that he took it on himself to hit them over the head with a bike lock

https://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/05/24/berkeley-police-arrest-eric-clanton-bike-lock-assaults

And let's not forget that Antifa so hates people of different views that they have no problem physically attacking disabled people"

https://dailycaller.com/2017/08/30/anarchists-plead-with-antifa-please-stop-making-us-look-bad/

And let's not forget the hate that caused the torture and murder of an intellectually disabled teen in revenge for the Trump victory because he was white and all white people are, I guess, Trump voters:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-sentenced-for-hate-crime-in-live-streamed-beating-of-mentally-disabled-teen/

And, of course, the conveniently over-looked, Senate softball shooting that you blindly idiotic partisan extremists routinely ignore.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting

And, of course, you people here that celebrate discriminating against people based on their views and even "LOL" at it:

http://www.kristensboard.com/forums/index.php?topic=64282.0

And believe me, I can go on and on and on and on.  Antifa is so full of hate that they have cause MILLIONS of damages in UC Berkeley alone, and routinely physically attacks people.

Those are the actions of people that HATE.  You guys are full of hate, but just too damn self-righteous to understand how toxic you are.
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Reply #602 on: November 02, 2018, 12:21:50 AM
The man that shot up the Pittsburgh Synagogue WAS a white supremacist that was extremely anti-Trump and believed that he was being "controlled by the Jews" he even said that he couldn't bring himself to touch a MAGA hat.

So, clearly, yes, it goes BOTH ways.

Yes, either way, Donald was directly responsible for inciting racial Terrorism.  He's been doing it for decades. Now that he's president, he's doing it 24/7, because you can't turn on the TV, check social media, or hit Recent Unread Topics on a sex story forum without His Nibs Trumping everything.  

It doesn't matter what side you're on, he's inciting hate, and violence, for America.  Chaos, not stability, and order.  

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And believe me, I can go on and on and on and on.

And this is the state at which Obama left the country, right?  You blame it on the Liberals, when the Liberals weren't in Power.  You point out the extremists, incited to violence, and provided many excellent examples of this, that weren't happening until his nibs turned up on top of the deck.  (I'm willing to bet you know how to play Cribbage.)  

And yet, you still blame this systematic decent into Anarchy exclusively on the liberals.  Well, I as an Anarchist, and staunch supporter of the Anarchis President destoying the country am still here to tell you:

You can see the affect, but you still ignore the cause.  The radical liberals didn't make the Nazis.  The Trump made the liberals violently radical.  Charlotte'sville was just the first time it popped up on your radar.  Under Obama, they were camping out on Wall Street.



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Reply #603 on: November 02, 2018, 12:38:53 AM
You have an unusually twisted narrative, IrishGirl, or perhaps not so unusual for someone who seems to self-identify with the alt-right, yet claim no affiliation. The intolerance you cite in the left side of the political spectrum is decried by the Liberian establishment as extreme and unsupportable.

I do take exception at your attitude of “but they do it too.”

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Reply #604 on: November 02, 2018, 12:50:26 AM
You have an unusually twisted narrative, IrishGirl, or perhaps not so unusual for someone who seems to self-identify with the alt-right, yet claim no affiliation.

Okay, she accuses people of identifying her with the "Alt-right."  She's never actually claimed that of herself, but it's pretty hard to tell sometimes when she's speaking honestly, or for the Liberals, who can't speak for themselves.



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Reply #605 on: November 02, 2018, 01:25:25 AM
 Here are a couple of quotes for you. “If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, it’s a duck. ““A rose by any other name…“

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Reply #607 on: November 02, 2018, 09:51:30 PM


Well, I can think of another party "BUT" the year was 1939......

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Reply #608 on: November 02, 2018, 10:22:04 PM
The man that shot up the Pittsburgh Synagogue WAS a white supremacist that was extremely anti-Trump and believed that he was being "controlled by the Jews" he even said that he couldn't bring himself to touch a MAGA hat.

So, clearly, yes, it goes BOTH ways.

Yes, either way, Donald was directly responsible for inciting racial Terrorism.  He's been doing it for decades. Now that he's president, he's doing it 24/7, because you can't turn on the TV, check social media, or hit Recent Unread Topics on a sex story forum without His Nibs Trumping everything.  

It doesn't matter what side you're on, he's inciting hate, and violence, for America.  Chaos, not stability, and order.  

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And believe me, I can go on and on and on and on.

And this is the state at which Obama left the country, right?  You blame it on the Liberals, when the Liberals weren't in Power.  You point out the extremists, incited to violence, and provided many excellent examples of this, that weren't happening until his nibs turned up on top of the deck.  (I'm willing to bet you know how to play Cribbage.)  

And yet, you still blame this systematic decent into Anarchy exclusively on the liberals.  Well, I as an Anarchist, and staunch supporter of the Anarchis President destoying the country am still here to tell you:

You can see the affect, but you still ignore the cause.  The radical liberals didn't make the Nazis.  The Trump made the liberals violently radical.  Charlotte'sville was just the first time it popped up on your radar.  Under Obama, they were camping out on Wall Street.

No, I don't "blame it on Liberals."  I'm a Liberal.  I blame it on you assholes that are offended by everything, hide is safe zones because you can't handle a different point of view, want to censor speech you find offensive, and encourage people to "punch a fascist" because they don't totally 100% agree with you.

Liberals don't do that.  That shit is Authoritarian.  Liberals are not authoritarian.

And, of course you blame Trump for what your side is doing, you can't take responsibility for your own actions.

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Reply #609 on: November 02, 2018, 10:31:26 PM
No, I don't "blame it on Liberals."  I'm a Liberal.  I blame it on you assholes that are offended by everything, hide is safe zones because you can't handle a different point of view, want to censor speech you find offensive, and encourage people to "punch a fascist" because they don't totally 100% agree with you.

No, you blame me for doing these things, which I have never done.  I don't have a safe zone.  I can't just skip school because the transgender people "took over."  I have never censored speech that offended me, nor called for it.  I have never encouraged anyone to "Punch a fascist" because as you have failed to notice, repeatedly, my point it that that makes the Fascists more powerful.  

Nobody totally 100% agrees with me, nor do I expect them to.  This is your fantasy version of me.  The same one you've been arguing with for years.  Not me.  If you don't understand what I'm saying, you turn it into the worst possible thing I could be saying, because being wrong doesn't fit in your narrow sheltered worldview.



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Reply #610 on: November 02, 2018, 11:19:24 PM
No, I don't "blame it on Liberals."  I'm a Liberal.  I blame it on you assholes that are offended by everything, hide is safe zones because you can't handle a different point of view, want to censor speech you find offensive, and encourage people to "punch a fascist" because they don't totally 100% agree with you.

No, you blame me for doing these things, which I have never done.  I don't have a safe zone.  I can't just skip school because the transgender people "took over."  I have never censored speech that offended me, nor called for it.  I have never encouraged anyone to "Punch a fascist" because as you have failed to notice, repeatedly, my point it that that makes the Fascists more powerful.  

Nobody totally 100% agrees with me, nor do I expect them to.  This is your fantasy version of me.  The same one you've been arguing with for years.  Not me.  If you don't understand what I'm saying, you turn it into the worst possible thing I could be saying, because being wrong doesn't fit in your narrow sheltered worldview.


  If you don't want to be lumped in with them, then don't take their side.  It's really that easy.

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Reply #611 on: November 02, 2018, 11:35:06 PM
 If you don't want to be lumped in with them, then don't take their side.  It's really that easy.

Which is it, am I siding with the fascists, or telling people to punch fascists when I don't agree with them?  



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Reply #612 on: November 02, 2018, 11:40:11 PM
 If you don't want to be lumped in with them, then don't take their side.  It's really that easy.

Which is it, am I siding with the fascists, or telling people to punch fascists when I don't agree with them?  

Aren't they the same thing?  I really don't see the difference between a fascist and an antifascist.  Their actions are the same. 

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Reply #613 on: November 02, 2018, 11:41:46 PM
I really don't see the difference between a fascist and an antifascist.

Or an Anarchist.  That's the side I'm on.  None.  You forgot that, too.



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Reply #614 on: November 02, 2018, 11:43:48 PM
I really don't see the difference between a fascist and an antifascist.

Or an Anarchist.  That's the side I'm on.  None.  You forgot that, too.

Oh, yeah, no rights for anyone that can't defend themselves.  How progressive of you.

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Reply #615 on: November 02, 2018, 11:45:23 PM
Oh, yeah, no rights for anyone that can't defend themselves.  How progressive of you.

The progressive part is building a new government, once this one (Where the liberals, and conservatives are assuring that only They get any rights) is gone.



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Reply #616 on: November 03, 2018, 07:51:21 PM
Oh, yeah, no rights for anyone that can't defend themselves.  How progressive of you.

The progressive part is building a new government, once this one (Where the liberals, and conservatives are assuring that only They get any rights) is gone.

Building a "New Government" is very anti-Anarchist isn't it?

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Reply #617 on: November 03, 2018, 08:28:55 PM
Building a "New Government" is very anti-Anarchist isn't it?

Well, thanks for asking.  Yes, in fact I'm not a "Wooh, Satan yeah!" Anarchist.  I'm a Progressive Anarchist, though the wording is a bit backwards.  My political beliefs are that the current system (Basically 2 sets of extremists yelling over the actual issues, somewhere between, where they can see them) can not be fixed.  Therefore, the only way to Progress unfortunately requires a (Hopefully brief) period of Anarchy, so that we can build a better system from the ground up.

So, no.  I don't want there to be no rights for the weak, who are helpless against the strong.  That's Anarchy.  Right now, my current priority is to overturn the system where the weak are deprived rights by the Powerful, so that the majority (The poor) may overthrow the Elite, and start work on something that might (Hopefully) work better for US. 

Also, that there is no perfect government, that works for everyone, indefinitely.  So, when any one goes on long enough for Oligarchs to gain an insurmountable advantage, abolish the middle class, curtail rights as Privileges of the desirable, while eliminating the undesirable (With mass deportations, incarceration, genocide, and economic depression)

It's time to start over.  Unfortunately, that requires a brief period of Anarchy.



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Reply #618 on: November 04, 2018, 04:51:10 PM
For a self-proclaimed anarchist, you have a fairly flawed understanding of anarchy.

My understanding of Anarchy is that we need it NOW to overthrow the corrupt government, but it's not a stable system.  It's nit a goal, nor an end, it's the Means to an end.  Your understanding of my understanding is colored by your preconceive notions of Anrchism in general, and me in particular.  

Going into the argument with the assumption that I'm wrong, and looking for the flaw in my thought processes to prove yourself right.  Is a flaw in your thought process, how you over look what I'm actually saying, to look for perceived flaws.

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For a start, this might be a reference to when teenagers attach themselves to the anti-establishment aspect of anarchy without really understanding the ideas behind it (ironically), but I'm not sure what that has to do with Satanism, never mind what Satanism might have to do with the ideology in general.

There is no ideology, in general.  Anarchism isn't an ideology, it's "Government bad."  End of story.  Progressive anarchism begs the question:  Then what?  Okay, you've overthrown the government, then what?  A socialist Anarchist then seizes the means of production, and mobilizes the work force with the Proletariat out of the way, because the lack of oligarchs to prevent this makes Socializing the state possible.

A "Wooh, Anarchy, yeah!" anarchist doen't think that far ahead.  They use that anarchy to loot, rape, and vandalize.  So, I compared them to Satanists, half expecting you to lecture me on The Left Hand Path, so I could point out the schism in the ChurcheS (3) of Satan, after Anton LaVey died, leaving a power gap to fight over.  Anarchists, like Satanists and Atheists define themselves not by what they believe, but what they don't.  Their entire argument is based on proving a negative.

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You might be thinking of libertarianism.

Then again, I might not.  I've given this decades of thought, planned my entire life around it, and am prepared to rebuild the system, with electrical power, once the Power Grid went off line.  You've given it about enough thought as it too to come back with a snappy guess, and guessed wrong.

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Here I think you're confusing anarchy with general chaos, which is arguably a temporary byproduct of most or all major changes in political systems, but not strictly a requirement. Anarchy is certainly not a requirement.

I'm not thinking about most changes in political systems.  I'm thinking about THIS political system, how close it is to collapsing, AND what to do when it collapses.  So, if you prefer I call it Progressive Survivalism?  The only Anarchy part is seeing it on the horizon.  I'm still a Progressive.  I've just accepted the nation is tearing itself apart, so I can prepare to help put it back together again.

Now, I'll wait for your snap judgement about how I'm wrong, again, and all the flaws in the logic I haven't even posted yet, because of your ideological prejudice of what the word Anarchy means.  It means nothing, honestly, it's a negative.  A political Anarchist is like Being a Nihilist.  What does Nihilism mean?  (The absense of true meaning in the universe, especially in opposition to the Existential meaning of Being.)  It's like trying to understand Zen.

And yet, here you are, telling me what you think I believe that means, as if I don't know.  I don't support Anarchy, I see it as the only means to a new beginning, because those in power (On both sides) are too busy fighting over who's to blame for it being so fucked up to fix it politically.  Also, I'm a Technician, so my part to play isn't forming a new Government.  It's getting the lights to work off the grid, so we can build it without the fatal flaw of centralized energy.
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Reply #619 on: November 04, 2018, 04:54:24 PM
I used to be a Revolutionary, then I became an Anarchist.  Why?  Because I realized the path of least resistance wasn't to overthrow the government, but just let Che Riche do it for me from the Oval Office.  That freed me up to get ready for what comes next...

So, since your argument is based on a negative, the Inigo precept:  "That word you keep using, I do not think it means, what you think it means."

Turn that negative around to the affirmative, and tell me the true philosophical meaning behind Anarchy.
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