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on: July 29, 2014, 03:13:10 AM
Yes, Mr. President, the Border Kids Are Refugees
The 52,000 unaccompanied children who have shown up at the border are fleeing gang violence and have valid claims to asylum.
Michelle Goldberg

In July, in Murrieta, California, right-wing demonstrators confronted busloads of people, many of them women and small children who had crossed the border fleeing horrific violence. “Nobody wants you! You’re not welcome! Go home!” they shouted. According to the Los Angeles Times, the migrants were on their way to a supervised release program overseen by a religious volunteer group. Instead, blocked by the protesters, they had to return to a border patrol station in San Diego.

The gratuitous cruelty of the American right, of course, isn’t much of a surprise. More shocking is the response of the Obama administration, which is scarcely more hospitable. As the United Nations and others have said, the situation on the border, where 52,000 unaccompanied children have arrived from Mexico and Central America since October, is more a refugee crisis than an immigration one. But rather than acknowledge this, the White House has suggested that it wants to strip some of these children of rights they have under the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act, a 2008 law signed by George W. Bush. According to The New York Times, Obama is considering seeking “flexibility” in the law’s requirements, which gives lone child migrants from countries other than Mexico and Canada the right to an immigration hearing and, in the interim, release into the “least restrictive setting that is in the best interest of the child.”

Even with the law in place, we’re seeing flagrant abuses of border kids’ rights. At some stations, children in diapers have been held in jail cells. “It was horrible,” says Democratic Representative Zoe Lofgren of California, who recently visited a facility in Brownsville, Texas. “There were hundreds of kids, little kids. I saw a 3-year-old—at least they said he was 3. I don’t think the kid was that old.” He was being cared for by a rotating group of preteen girl detainees, Lofgren says. “There are 8- and 9-year-old kids sleeping on cement floors with aluminum foil blankets.”

After she and some of her colleagues complained to the Department of Health and Human Services, Secretary Sylvia Matthews Burwell promised to have all children under 5 removed from jail. That is good news, though it is not the sort of thing that should require congressional action.

Meanwhile, the administration must acknowledge that many of the children—who largely hail from gang-ridden Honduras, the country with the world’s highest murder rate, and neighboring El Salvador and
Guatemala—have valid claims to asylum. “The UN said that in their judgment, we should call this a refugee matter, and I think they’re right,” says Lofgren. Indeed, she argues, calling the underlying problem gang warfare minimizes it: “These are armed warlords competing for governance of the countries.”

In recent years, violence has surged in the region, in no small part because of American policies. “The United States has chosen to fight a ‘war on drugs,’ which has consisted of trying to break apart large cartels,” says Elizabeth Kennedy, a Fulbright fellow in El Salvador who works with child migrants. “There’s evidence that in breaking apart the cartels, you actually increase the violence for people living in those communities.” With the demand for drugs still ravenous, smaller groups emerge to fill that demand, warring with each other and setting up in new countries. “When we fought the war on drugs in Colombia, the cartels moved into Mexico with greater force, and crop growth moved into Ecuador and Peru,” Kennedy says. “And now we’re seeing that they’re moving to the Caribbean and Central America.” In Honduras, the problem has been exacerbated by the 2009 right-wing military coup, which, as the International Crisis Group writes in a recent report, “weakened already fragile institutions of law enforcement and justice.”

In countries where the cartels are most active, children reaching adolescence face a choice between gang membership and death. Kennedy recently wrote a report for the Immigration Policy Center, “No Childhood Here: Why Central American Children Are Fleeing Their Homes,” which notes that 59 percent of Salvadoran boys and 61 percent of Salvadoran girls list crime or violence as a reason they decided to make the perilous trip north. Lofgren met a grandmother from Honduras who’d fled with three adolescent girls after a gang leader threatened to seize them. “She probably saved their lives,” says Lofgren.

Despite the right’s canard that kids are fleeing to the United States because they think Obama has promised them amnesty, Kennedy says that only one of the more than 400 kids she has interviewed knew anything about the Dream Act or the president’s 2012 executive order halting deportation of some young immigrants. Indeed, people from the most violence-wracked states are also fleeing to neighboring countries, belying attempts to blame Obama for their migration. According to the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), between 2008 and 2013 there was a 712 percent increase in the number of asylum applications from citizens of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador seeking refuge in Mexico, Panama, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Belize.

Greater border enforcement is not going to stop desperate parents from trying to get their kids out of imminent danger. Migrants know they’re likely to be deported, and many reach the United States only after multiple failed attempts. “Many children say, ‘It’s a sure death if I stay, and it’s a possible death if I go,’” says Kennedy.

Treating this as a refugee crisis does not mean simply opening the borders, which could empower the smuggling rings that profit by bringing children to the United States. It means providing safety for the kids who are already here and working with the UN to create centers in their home countries where those whose lives are in danger can apply for asylum in the United States or other nations. “To me, it’s recognizing reality,” Lofgren says. “You can say it’s not a refugee crisis, but it is, and we have tools in our toolbox, including UNHCR, to deal with a refugee crisis.”

http://www.thenation.com/article/180682/our-refugee-crisis



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Reply #1 on: July 29, 2014, 03:42:55 AM
Many of the countries that these children are fleeing are UN membership states.

Perhaps the UN could step in and "Fix" this situation. Why is this falling squarely on the shoulders of the United States?

There are presently 192 member States of the United Nations. Maybe some of them could step up to the plate?

Member States of the United Nations


Member State
Date of Admission
A
Afghanistan19-11-1946
Albania14-12-1955
Algeria08-10-1962
Andorra28-07-1993
Angola01-12-1976
Antigua and Barbuda11-11-1981
Argentina24-10-1945
Armenia02-03-1992
Australia01-11-1945
Austria14-12-1955
Azerbaijan02-03-1992
B
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Bahamas18-09-1973
Bahrain21-09-1971
Bangladesh17-09-1974
Barbados09-12-1966
Belarus* 24-10-1945
Belgium27-12-1945
Belize25-09-1981
Benin20-09-1960
Bhutan21-09-1971
Bolivia (Plurinational State of)14-11-1945
Bosnia and Herzegovina* 22-05-1992
Botswana17-10-1966
Brazil24-10-1945
Brunei Darussalam21-09-1984
Bulgaria14-12-1955
Burkina Faso20-09-1960
Burundi18-09-1962
C
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Cabo Verde16-09-1975
Cambodia14-12-1955
Cameroon20-09-1960
Canada09-11-1945
Central African Republic20-09-1960
Chad20-09-1960
Chile24-10-1945
China24-10-1945
Colombia05-11-1945
Comoros12-11-1975
Congo20-09-1960
Costa Rica02-11-1945
Côte D'Ivoire20-09-1960
Croatia* 22-05-1992
Cuba24-10-1945
Cyprus20-09-1960
Czech Republic*19-01-1993
D
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Democratic People's Republic of Korea17-09-1991
Democratic Republic of the Congo * 20-09-1960
Denmark24-10-1945
Djibouti20-09-1977
Dominica18-12-1978
Dominican Republic24-10-1945
E
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Ecuador21-12-1945
Egypt*24-10-1945
El Salvador24-10-1945
Equatorial Guinea12-11-1968
Eritrea28-05-1993
Estonia17-09-1991
Ethiopia13-11-1945
F
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Fiji13-10-1970
Finland14-12-1955
France24-10-1945
G
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Gabon20-09-1960
Gambia21-09-1965
Georgia31-07-1992
Germany*18-09-1973
Ghana08-03-1957
Greece25-10-1945
Grenada17-09-1974
Guatemala21-11-1945
Guinea12-12-1958
Guinea Bissau17-09-1974
Guyana20-09-1966
H
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Haiti24-10-1945
Honduras17-12-1945
Hungary14-12-1955
I
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Iceland19-11-1946
India30-10-1945
Indonesia*28-09-1950
Iran (Islamic Republic of)24-10-1945
Iraq21-12-1945
Ireland14-12-1955
Israel11-05-1949
Italy14-12-1955
J
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Jamaica18-09-1962
Japan18-12-1956
Jordan14-12-1955
K
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Kazakhstan02-03-1992
Kenya16-12-1963
Kiribati14-09-1999
Kuwait14-05-1963
Kyrgyzstan02-03-1992
L
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Lao People’s Democratic Republic14-12-1955
Latvia17-09-1991
Lebanon24-10-1945
Lesotho17-10-1966
Liberia02-11-1945
Libya*14-12-1955
Liechtenstein18-09-1990
Lithuania17-09-1991
Luxembourg24-10-1945
M
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Madagascar20-09-1960
Malawi01-12-1964
Malaysia*17-09-1957
Maldives21-09-1965
Mali28-09-1960
Malta01-12-1964
Marshall Islands17-09-1991
Mauritania27-10-1961
Mauritius24-04-1968
Mexico07-11-1945
Micronesia (Federated States of)17-09-1991
Monaco28-05-1993
Mongolia27-10-1961
Montenegro*28-06-2006
Morocco12-11-1956
Mozambique16-09-1975
Myanmar19-04-1948
N
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Namibia23-04-1990
Nauru14-09-1999
Nepal14-12-1955
Netherlands10-12-1945
New Zealand24-10-1945
Nicaragua24-10-1945
Niger20-09-1960
Nigeria07-10-1960
Norway27-11-1945
O
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Oman07-10-1971
P
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Pakistan30-09-1947
Palau15-12-1994
Panama13-11-1945
Papua New Guinea10-10-1975
Paraguay24-10-1945
Peru31-10-1945
Philippines24-10-1945
Poland24-10-1945
Portugal14-12-1955
Q
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Qatar21-09-1971
R
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Republic of Korea17-09-1991
Republic of Moldova02-03-1992
Romania14-12-1955
Russian Federation*24-10-1945
Rwanda18-09-1962
S
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Saint Kitts and Nevis23-09-1983
Saint Lucia18-09-1979
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines16-09-1980
Samoa15-12-1976
San Marino02-03-1992
Sao Tome and Principe16-09-1975
Saudi Arabia 24-10-1945
Senegal28-09-1960
Serbia*01-11-2000
Seychelles21-09-1976
Sierra Leone27-09-1961
Singapore*21-09-1965
Slovakia*19-01-1993
Slovenia*22-05-1992
Solomon Islands19-09-1978
Somalia20-09-1960
South Africa07-11-1945
South ‎Sudan*14-07-2011
Spain14-12-1955
Sri Lanka14-12-1955
Sudan12-11-1956
Suriname04-12-1975
Swaziland24-09-1968
Sweden19-11-1946
Switzerland10-09-2002
Syrian Arab Republic*24-10-1945
T
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Tajikistan02-03-1992
Thailand16-12-1946
The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia*08-04-1993
Timor-Leste27-09-2002
Togo20-09-1960
Tonga14-09-1999
Trinidad and Tobago18-09-1962
Tunisia12-11-1956
Turkey24-10-1945
Turkmenistan02-03-1992
Tuvalu05-09-2000
U
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Uganda25-10-1962
Ukraine24-10-1945
United Arab Emirates09-12-1971
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland24-10-1945
United Republic of Tanzania* 14-12-1961
United States of America24-10-1945
Uruguay18-12-1945
Uzbekistan02-03-1992
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Vanuatu15-09-1981
Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of)15-11-1945
Viet Nam20-09-1977
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Yemen*30-09-1947
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Zambia01-12-1964
Zimbabwe25-08-1980

 



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Reply #2 on: July 29, 2014, 04:57:31 AM
The rest of the world is dealing with refugees from Syria, Sudan, Ukraine, etc.  Sorry, but this problem is not unique to the Untied States.  And there are lots of American families stepping up to take these kids in.

The United States is also a rich country that has the resources to help.  It is time for us to step up.  And let us all not forget that Mexico sent troops to help when Katrina hit New Orleans.



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Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 05:21:44 AM
I'm curious. Why are the parents sending the ids alone? Why are none of the parents accompanying their children on the journey?

While you're waiting in vain for that apology, why don't you make yourself useful by getting on your knees and opening your mouth


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Reply #4 on: July 29, 2014, 09:08:08 AM
The rest of the world is dealing with refugees from Syria, Sudan, Ukraine, etc.  Sorry, but this problem is not unique to the Untied States.  And there are lots of American families stepping up to take these kids in.

The United States is also a rich country that has the resources to help.  It is time for us to step up.  And let us all not forget that Mexico sent troops to help when Katrina hit New Orleans.

Ummmmm, these kids aren't from Mexico.



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Reply #5 on: July 29, 2014, 04:27:41 PM
I'm curious. Why are the parents sending the ids alone? Why are none of the parents accompanying their children on the journey?

This story answers many of your questions:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/immigrant-parents-urge-us-officials-to-help-their-children-flee-central-american-violence/2014/06/12/dc751266-f0b4-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html



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Reply #6 on: July 29, 2014, 04:32:35 PM
The rest of the world is dealing with refugees from Syria, Sudan, Ukraine, etc.  Sorry, but this problem is not unique to the Untied States.  And there are lots of American families stepping up to take these kids in.

The United States is also a rich country that has the resources to help.  It is time for us to step up.  And let us all not forget that Mexico sent troops to help when Katrina hit New Orleans.

Ummmmm, these kids aren't from Mexico.

You miss the point.  We are all members of the human family.  Families help each other out as they are able.



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Reply #7 on: July 29, 2014, 04:58:49 PM
Once again, republicans are so focused on the game of "blame Obama all the time" that they lose sight of the larger picture. Obama didn't create any of the immigration problems we face, and republicans, by preventing his efforts to find solutions are making things worse.

Note the highlighted sentence below (emphasis mine), because it's all explained right there; it's time to stop blaming Obama for problems which have been around for decades or longer, while tying his hands and preventing him from implementing solutions. Immigration problems are not Obama's problem; they are America's problem. This stupid game is hurting us all.


Juan Williams: Shame of the GOP on border

Even on Capitol Hill, there is a God.

Last week, the nation’s religious leaders stood up to ask their elected officials to look past politics and see that children — not theoretical abstractions but real, young individuals — are suffering because of inaction by Congress.

The children who have come north, fleeing violence in Central America, “are not ‘issues.’ These are … children made in the image of God and we ought to respond to them with compassion, not fear,” Russell Moore, a leader of the conservative Southern Baptist Convention told The New York Times.

The pope, the President of Catholic Charities U.S.A., the leaders of the evangelical charity World Vision and others want to stop Congress from treating children as political footballs.

They want Congress to pass a funding bill before the August recess that allows for proper handling of children coming to the United States under existing law for minors fleeing violence, sexual abuse and exploitation.

A group of top evangelicals — key supporters of the GOP for decades — wrote to ask Congress last week to protect the children and offer them full consideration in court as refugees.

But the GOP’s obstructionism of anything the Obama White House proposes now stands in the way of faith-based compassion for these children.

“If Republicans move forward on this, we’re now jumping in right in the middle of President Obama’s nightmare and making it ours,” said Rep. John Fleming (R-La.).

“If it doesn’t have the 2008 repeal in it, I don’t support it — we’ve got to address the cause of the problem,” Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said last week, referring to Bush-era legislation that gives children from certain countries who enter the United States illegally the right to a hearing before a judge.  

McCain’s analysis leapt over the fact that these children did not start arriving in large numbers until late last year. They did so in response to deadly threats in their home countries, not because of any law.

The GOP is guilty of at least three counts of intellectual and moral dishonesty in this debate.

First is the claim that waves of illegal immigrants are sweeping across the southern border in unprecedented numbers. The fact is that net migration from Mexico, the biggest source of migrants, fell to zero in 2012.  And, if you include El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua, it is estimated by Frank Bean of the Center for Research on Immigration, Population and Public Policy at UC Irvine, the net is less than 100,000 people per year.  

The second dishonest claim from the GOP is that a large share of the nation’s 12 million illegal immigrants ran, swam or were brought across the border by smugglers, “coyotes” or human traffickers.

Wrong again. The plurality — at least 40 percent — of illegal immigrants now in the United States came legally on boats and planes. They simply overstayed their visas. Yet Republicans in the House refuse to move on comprehensive immigration reform and crack down on the heart of the problem.

Third, and most frequently, Republicans contend they don’t trust President Obama. They say that until Democrats get serious about border security they will refuse to pass immigration reform or deal with the current crisis of children seeking asylum.

But Obama’s funding request includes money for increased security, providing additional money for the Border Patrol and even for drones. The bipartisan Senate immigration reform bill also included huge amounts of money for further security. And Obama has deported so many people he is sometimes attacked from the left as the “Deporter in Chief.”

The most outrageously false claim is that Obama’s 2012 executive order is the real problem. That order halted the deportation of some children brought to the United States illegally as minors.

The fact is that Obama’s executive order applied only to young people who were already in the country. The young people now asking for help are not eligible under his  program.

It is a marvel of political dishonesty to point at Obama and blame him for how human traffickers misrepresent U.S. immigration policy to desperate parents in Central America.

The facts of the child migrant crisis lead to a harsh conclusion. Republicans are deaf to calls for mercy for children because they are playing for political gain. They see the chance to use  the fear of “invading” immigrants  to spur their voters to turn out in the midterm elections.

Late last week, Republicans offered a plan with less than half of the $3.7 billion the White House wants to deal with the crisis. Senate Democrats have a proposal that cuts Obama’s request by about a quarter. But the Democrats refuse GOP demands to change the 2008 law.  

Meanwhile, federal customs and immigration agencies will be out of money by September without supplemental funds from Congress.

The GOP seems content to let it happen and stoke the crisis so long as they can blame Obama.

Can people of faith shame these politicians?

http://thehill.com/opinion/juan-williams/213454-juan-williams-shame-of-the-gop-on-border
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Reply #8 on: July 29, 2014, 05:10:30 PM
EDIT: picture of children removed - gb

Illegal Unaccompanied Alien Children - Before


Illegal Unaccompanied Alien Refugees - After[/color]
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Reply #10 on: July 30, 2014, 07:09:35 AM
@ Joan, can you prove anyone in your pictures are illegal immigrants?



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Reply #11 on: August 01, 2014, 05:29:08 AM
I'm curious. Why are the parents sending the ids alone? Why are none of the parents accompanying their children on the journey?

This story answers many of your questions:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/immigrant-parents-urge-us-officials-to-help-their-children-flee-central-american-violence/2014/06/12/dc751266-f0b4-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html


More questions than answeres from that one. Why are so many parents here and leaving their kids behind? What about the ones who's parents are still there and sent their kids alone.

While you're waiting in vain for that apology, why don't you make yourself useful by getting on your knees and opening your mouth


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Reply #12 on: August 01, 2014, 08:37:29 AM
I suspect it is because crossing the border is very dangerous and difficult.  Hundreds die every year attempting the crossing.  I am sure if the parents did not judge it far more dangerous for their children to stay in places like Honduras, they would not be encouraging them to come to the USA.

It is my understanding that in most cases it is the parents of these children that are sending them to live with other relatives living in the US.  In essence their parents are sending them away for safety reasons.  Women with their children are also arriving at the border. The children do not always come alone.