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« Reply #3210 on: October 13, 2017, 12:26:15 AM »

Meanwhile in Puerto Rico people are starting to die from lack of potable water, and Trump is saying it's time to withdraw federal aid in a series of tweets.

U.S. warns Puerto Rico against tapping water at toxic waste sites

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« Reply #3211 on: October 13, 2017, 12:31:12 AM »


One individual, for whatever reason, decided to mow down people blocking an intersection/street with his car, AFTER the event was shut down. That violence is on that individual, who has been caught, charged, and is awaiting his fate in a trial.


That might be the most disingenuous thing you've ever written on this Board.

Which side was that "one individual" on? Was he there to support the neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, Anti-Semites, White Nationalists, and other fascists? Or was he there to protest the neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, Anti-Semites, White Nationalists, and other fascists?

Does it really matter at which point in the demonstration this "one individual" murdered that innocent young woman?

"For whatever reason"? Really? You've outdone yourself in your mendacity.





Finding the white supremacists who beat a black man in Charlottesville

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The videos show how the beating unfolded, revealing its brutality and shocking speed from multiple perspectives.

On Aug. 12, white supremacists at the “Unite the Right” rally in downtown Charlottesville converged on counterprotesters outside the Market Street parking garage — a facility right next to the Charlottesville Police Department.

First, a white supremacist attempted to spear a counterprotester with the pole of a Confederate flag. Then, DeAndre Harris, a former special-education instructional assistant, swung a flashlight at the man, possibly striking him.

Then, the skirmish erupted into a full-throttle attack on Harris. Six white supremacists rushed the 20-year-old African American who had fled into the parking garage, kicking him to the ground and pummeling him with what appeared to be wooden sticks and a large board. Harris sustained a spinal injury and a deep head laceration that required 10 staples, according to his Philadelphia-based attorney, S. Lee Merritt.

Over the next few days, as people uploaded videos of the fight, a Black Lives Matter activist took it upon himself to do what law enforcement agencies apparently weren’t doing: trying to identify the six attackers so they could be arrested. Shaun King, who at the time was a New York Daily News columnist and is now a writer in residence at a project at Harvard Law School, scoured the Web to match old photos of the attackers with images from the Charlottesville fight. He bore down deep into Twitter, Facebook and elsewhere, looking for associates of the men who could confirm first and last names.

As of Thursday, King was credited with identifying two of the alleged assailants: Daniel P. Borden, 18, of Ohio and Alex Michael Ramos, 33, of Georgia. Both were arrested in their home states and charged with malicious wounding. The other four men haven’t been officially named, but King said he hasn’t stopped trying

“I spoke to the Charlottesville Police Department, two FBI agents, and the state police. It was surreal. The only thing they knew about the attackers was stuff they got from my [social media] timelines!” King said in an interview. “Something had me thinking that the FBI was so sophisticated, that they were running these photos through databases. But they openly said that the only guys they knew were the two guys I had identified. My thought was, ‘This can’t be real.’ ”

Dennette Rybiski, a spokeswoman for the FBI’s office in Richmond, declined to be interviewed. After the rally, four days passed before the bureau posted on Twitter links to a tip line and a website where people could share information about the violence in Charlottesville.

The Washington Post made multiple requests to speak with members of the Charlottesville Police Department. Neither Chief Al S. Thomas Jr. nor a department spokesman returned messages. The city manager, Maurice Jones, did not respond to interview requests left with his spokeswoman.

The attack on Harris was just one of the stains left by the “Unite the Right” rally. A Nazi sympathizer, James Alex Fields Jr., allegedly plowed through a crowd in his car, killing counterprotester Heather Heyer and injuring more than a dozen others. Fields Jr., 20, who had stood with white supremacists hours before the crash, was charged with second-degree murder. At least a dozen others got into other brawls and were also treated for injuries.

In the aftermath of the violence, Charlottesville has been riven by recrimination and ­second-guessing: Why didn’t the police intervene to halt the multiple altercations? Why were police standing off to the sides and behind the two opposing groups — and not in between them?

Merritt, Harris’s attorney, said local police “share in some liability” for his client’s injuries. He accused the police of passivity in their efforts to identify and arrest Harris’s assailants because “if you have six arrests after the fact — from an incident that was feet away from law enforcement — it makes them appear more culpable,” he said.

Harris declined to comment through his attorney. He set up a GoFundMe Web page, with the goal of raising $50,000. He’s gotten more than $166,000.

“If it was not for my friends that I came with I would have been beaten to a pulp,” Harris wrote on the page.

Merritt said the FBI questioned them about why Harris had kept the GoFundMe page active even though he’d reached his goal. It is no longer accepting donations.

“They were responding to Internet claims that DeAndre was manipulating the public for financial gain. It’s a red herring,” Merritt said. “It’s great the community wanted to support him, but it had nothing to do with the incident, and doesn’t explain why he was attacked and doesn’t help track down the people who attacked him.”

If one person has been pushing for justice the most, it’s King, the former Daily News writer. He has 1.5 million Facebook followers and more than 760,000 on Twitter.

The night of the rally, King launched a public investigation, posting a photo of the white supremacists beating Harris in the parking garage.

“America. 2017. Arrest these men. All of them. Right now. What are their names?” he wrote on Facebook. “Economics my ass. This is violent white supremacy plain and simple.”

The next day, he posted photos of one of the attackers — one who has still not been named.

“SHARE THIS. All hands on deck. WHO IS THIS MAN with the red beard?” King wrote on Facebook, attaching photos of the man standing idly at the rally and then another of him at the attack.

An hour later, he posted photos of a young man with moles on his neck, two from the rally and one from the garage clash.

“OK Everybody! ALL HANDS ON DECK. SHARE!!! Here is white supremacist #2 that we MUST identify. WHO IS HE?” King wrote at 4:37 p.m. on Aug. 13.

Less than three hours later, at 7:04 p.m., King had one of the alleged assailants:

“Daniel (Dan) Borden — we found you. Your classmates turned you in,” King wrote, posting photos from the white supremacist’s now-shuttered Facebook account. “They said this doesn’t surprise them. And your neck moles gave it away.”

About two weeks later, Borden was arrested in Ohio, where he grew up. The Post left a message for his attorney, Greg Berberich, but it was not returned. According to the Associated Press, the attorney said that Borden had been hit in the head and tear-gassed several times and that he asked police for protection. He also said Borden’s family believes he will be proved innocent. The Post could not reach his parents for comment.

Three days after the rally, King found another alleged attacker.

“Dear Michael A. Ramos, We caught you. Your Facebook friends reported you to me,” King wrote, posting photos of Ramos in the assault next to other ­images of him.

“We downloaded all of the content off of your Facebook page before you deleted it — including your video and comments bragging about the assault.”

Ramos turned himself in to officials in Georgia and is expected to be transferred to Virginia authorities in the next week.

Now King is trying to get full names for the remaining alleged assailants, especially the man with the red beard who was wearing dark pants and a hat during the attack.

“That guy looks so distinct,” King said, frustrated. “But he’s a ghost. I think he’s deleted any trace of himself online.”

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« Reply #3212 on: October 13, 2017, 12:56:22 AM »

Sen. Ben Sasse asks if President Trump is 'recanting' his oath of office

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Following President Trump's apparent threat of the freedom of the press, Sen. Ben Sasse asked if the president was "recanting" his oath to protect the First Amendment.

"Mr. President: Words spoken by the president of the United States matter," the Nebraska Republican said in a Wednesday night statement. "Are you tonight recanting the oath you took on Jan. 20 to preserve, protect and defend the First Amendment?"

Sasse's response came after Trump, angry over a report that he had called for an increase in the U.C. nuclear arsenal, seemed to challenge the freedom of the press.

"It’s frankly disgusting the press is able to write whatever they want," he said.

And while the president wondered whether networks' licenses should be challenged and revoked, he said he wasn't asking for the restrictions on the press.

"I've seen tremendously dishonest press," he said.

Sasse isn't the only lawmaker to stand up for the First Amendment after Trump's comments.

House Speaker Paul Ryan, when asked about Trump's interpretation, replied that he was "for the First Amendment."

" I don’t always agree and like what you guys write, but you have a right to do it. And I’m a constitutional conservative, and I’m just going to leave it at that," he told reporters on Thursday.

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« Reply #3213 on: October 13, 2017, 02:49:15 AM »

My father commented to me the other day that he separated better men than Trump from military service for unsuitability and unfitness.
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« Reply #3214 on: October 13, 2017, 01:54:04 PM »

Trump rips the NFL for disrespecting the flag. Then he jokes about a military flag ceremony.

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« Reply #3215 on: October 13, 2017, 04:42:56 PM »

 The 'fake news' story Lois believes is real, about how the President wants to go to war, and demands 10x the Nuclear Ability we have today has been fully debunked. Lois and NBC believe it. Oh well...

I did not get it from NBC.  It was taken from numerous sources and from Trump's own words which indicated he is planning for war.

And show me where this has been debunked.

I am still waiting for Joan to show me this has been debunked.

Is she referring to Trump calling it false news?

Not exactly debunked. Trump lies all the time and is not a credible source.
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« Reply #3216 on: October 13, 2017, 05:23:03 PM »

GOP Governor Ben Sasse has a question for Joan, if she is a conservative which I doubt:

Question for conservatives:
What will you wish you had said now if someday a President Elizabeth Warren talks about censoring Fox News?


And a question from me.  How do you feel about our next President shutting down Breithate?

Fortunately, revoking broadcast licenses would not be easy.  And thus Trump may be saved from folly.
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« Reply #3217 on: October 13, 2017, 07:09:21 PM »

  As you note, is not easy to pull a broadcast license. I don't have his exact verbiage in front of me, and often he tends to "wish" when such issues draw attention, and is not personally threatening Presidential action.

  Great speech today to the Values Voter Summit. Good stuff.
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« Reply #3218 on: October 14, 2017, 12:38:35 AM »


    Great speech today to the Values Voter Summit. Good stuff.


Yeah, "good stuff":


"The American Founders invoked our Creator four times in the Declaration of Independence -- four times."

But the didn't invoke our Creator even once in the U.S. Constitution -- zero times.


"In the last 10 months, we have followed through on one promise after another."

For example, we promised to repeal and replace Obamacare, and...oh wait, our efforts completely and embarrassingly failed. Okay, we promised to build a wall across our southern border AND get Mexico to pay for it and...oh rats, we didn't follow through on that either.  We promised that every American would get a tax cut, especially the middle class, and....well, we're working on tax cuts for the richest Americans, so that counts, right?


"We are stopping cold the attacks on Judeo-Christian values."

But we're doing nothing to stop the attacks on Americans who aren't white, straight Christian males of European decent. In fact, we're encouraging them! [Applause]

Okay, I've never even come close to living those Judeo-Christian values myself, neither in my personal life nor my public life, but God Bless America! [Applause]


"In this administration, we will call evil by its name."

But we have a very, very strict definition of what we believe is "evil." Racism -- that's not evil, that's patriotism! Discrimination against anyone who isn't a white, straight Christian male of European decent -- that's not evil, that's what it means to be a Great American!






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« Reply #3219 on: October 14, 2017, 01:17:50 AM »

Report: NBA teams now staying away from Trump Hotel properties

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« Reply #3220 on: October 14, 2017, 02:48:11 AM »

 
  Great speech today to the Values Voter Summit. Good stuff.


Yes, because it's always good to hear the "grab 'em by the pussy" President talk about values to a bunch of assholes that want to tell you who you can and can't marry.

This is the first time an American President has addressed an anti-LBGTQ group.

Sorry Trump, but hate is not an American value or a family value.

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« Reply #3221 on: October 14, 2017, 03:20:31 AM »

Just got this from the Environmental Working Group:

URGENT: Senate Vote Happening NEXT WEEK!

The Senate may vote on chemical industry hack’s EPA confirmation next week.

Dear Friend,

We weren’t sure it could get any worse than Scott Pruitt, but it has.

Michael Dourson, President Trump’s nominee to lead the Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution Prevention at the Environmental Protection Agency, is a chemical industry hack, and has spent his career advocating against strong standards on pesticides and toxic chemicals in consumer products.

His consulting firm has been paid by chemical industry giants like Monsanto and Dow AgroSciences to produce junk science downplaying the serious harm chemicals like chlorpyrifos and 1,4-dioxane can wreak on the human body and the environment.

It’s time to put a stop to Trump’s anti-science, pro-chemical-industry nominee. We need the Senate to reject Dourson’s nomination. Can we count on you to help us?

Click here to tell your senators to vote NO on Michael Dourson’s nomination to lead the Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution Prevention at the EPA. He is a chemical industry hack, and cannot be trusted to protect Americans and the environment from hazardous chemicals!
http://action.ewg.org/p/dia/action4/common/public/?action_KEY=2360&tag=201710Dourson&track=ACTION_DoursonC4

At his consulting firm, Toxicology Excellence for Risk Assessment, or TERA, Dourson produced industry-funded studies on a huge range of chemicals, consistently coming up with results that drastically downplayed health risks and advocated for weaker safety standards. Here are just a few examples:

Dourson has helped DuPont avoid liability damages for PFOA, a dangerous chemical used in Teflon that is linked to cancer and thyroid disease.
In a study funded by Dow AgroSciences, Dourson argued it would be safe for children ages 1 to 2 to consume the toxic pesticide chlorpyrifos at levels more than 5,000 times higher than the limit proposed by the EPA in 2016.
Dourson worked with the American Chemistry Council, a chemical industry front group, to fight against efforts to ban toxic flame retardant chemicals. These chemicals have been linked to cancer, reduced IQ, infertility and learning disorders.
We need to take action now, before it’s too late – the Senate could vote on Dourson’s confirmation NEXT WEEK. Your senators need to hear from you right now if they’re going to make the right choice and vote NO on Dourson’s confirmation.

Take one minute right now and let your senators know how you feel. Urge them to vote NO on Dourson’s confirmation. We need the EPA to fight to protect Americans’ health, not chemical industry profits!
http://action.ewg.org/p/dia/action4/common/public/?action_KEY=2360&tag=201710Dourson&track=ACTION_DoursonC4

Thanks for standing with us, Friend.

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« Reply #3222 on: October 14, 2017, 04:43:37 AM »


    Great speech today to the Values Voter Summit. Good stuff.


Yeah, "good stuff":


"The American Founders invoked our Creator four times in the Declaration of Independence -- four times."

But the didn't invoke our Creator even once in the U.S. Constitution -- zero times.


"In the last 10 months, we have followed through on one promise after another."

For example, we promised to repeal and replace Obamacare, and...oh wait, our efforts completely and embarrassingly failed. Okay, we promised to build a wall across our southern border AND get Mexico to pay for it and...oh rats, we didn't follow through on that either.  We promised that every American would get a tax cut, especially the middle class, and....well, we're working on tax cuts for the richest Americans, so that counts, right?


"We are stopping cold the attacks on Judeo-Christian values."

But we're doing nothing to stop the attacks on Americans who aren't white, straight Christian males of European decent. In fact, we're encouraging them! [Applause]

Okay, I've never even come close to living those Judeo-Christian values myself, neither in my personal life nor my public life, but God Bless America! [Applause]


"In this administration, we will call evil by its name."

But we have a very, very strict definition of what we believe is "evil." Racism -- that's not evil, that's patriotism! Discrimination against anyone who isn't a white, straight Christian male of European decent -- that's not evil, that's what it means to be a Great American!








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« Reply #3223 on: October 14, 2017, 08:56:46 PM »

I think I have found the ideal theme song for our President and his minions:


<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/qfZVu0alU0I&rel=1" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/v/qfZVu0alU0I&rel=1</a>
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« Reply #3224 on: October 14, 2017, 09:09:23 PM »

  So, was Barry McGuire correct, really? Was the time he describes truly the Eve of Destruction? Of course not. Did Hippys and other left leaning souls think it was, and cry out about it, and try to upend whoever was making decisions at the time? Of course.

  Hyperbole much? The same is true today. Life happens, adults deal with it, and then adults attempt to get those dragging their feet out of the way.

  Good song, of course... go Barry!
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