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Reply #30 on: January 08, 2019, 06:21:17 PM

Sorry, but no.

I don't find football boring, but I don't enjoy it.  I also find it extremely annoying that the "best" players get paid more in a week than I get paid in ten years, when most of them have the IQ of a walnut.



A transfer fee of something like $73 million was just paid for an American player in the English Premiere League, making him the highest paid American ever in football.


He's Christian Pulisic, probably the best American player at this moment. He's the star of the U.S. Men's National Team, with 9 goals in 23 appearances, and he's played for Borussia Dortmund, one of the top teams in the German Bundesliga, for the past three seasons. Earlier in the week he was signed by Chelsea, one of the top teams in the English Premier League.

He's a lot of fun to watch. He plays with both style and aggression, and he's an amazing ball-handler, equally adept with both feet. He's a natural center forward, but his skills lend themselves to either wing.


Chelsea's purchase of Pulisic is an attempt to open up the American market for them.  They have plenty of players emerging from their academy who are just as good.  Bayern Munich are offering £30 million for Callum Hudson-Odoi for instance and Bayern know a good player when they see one.


It may well be an attempt to open up the American market for them (or, better put, further open up the American market for them).

But Chelsea hasn't signed Pulisic as the solution to their longer-term needs, nor as a savior. He's a great player, and he will make strong contributions to their side. But he likely will not start, at least not initially (assuming Hazard is still there in August 2019).

Regardless, I appreciate your adding your comments to this thread. It's great to have an actual Englishman comment on English football, and not just some Janey-Come-Lately Yank like me.






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Reply #31 on: January 08, 2019, 06:40:38 PM

As a long term sports (but especially football) fan I thought I would interject with a few random thoughts on previous posts and will probably get shot down in flames.

a) Why are they called American FOOTball and Rugby FOOtball when kicking the ball is not the primary action.

b) We in the UK never call football 'soccer'

c) If it's boring you want; then go and watch basketball - bounce, bounce score - bounce, bounce, score - bounce, bounce, score - ad infinitum (and I like cricket).


a) Historically, the word "football" had nothing to do with kicking the ball. Association Football and Rugby Football (and, from them, American Football), are called "football" because they are played on foot, and not on horseback. Similarly, calling Association Football simply "Football" is technically incorrect, since removing the modifier removes the distinction between it and several other similarly-named sports.

b) That's true. But the word "soccer" is of English origin, a shortening of the term "Association Football." So it's your fault we use this term.

c) Every sport is "boring" if you don't understand it, or can't appreciate it. When I was an undergrad I went to a Cubs game (baseball) with a friend from India, and she was bored out of her skull. (And when she asked why the fan in the bleachers who caught the home run ball hit by the opposing team instantly threw it back onto the field, I gave up trying to explain it to her.) And I had that exact discussion about soccer/football vs. basketball a couple of days ago. Currently, in an NBA game, an average of 227 points are scored. In a Premier League match, an average of 2.84 goals are scored. The average American sports fan would argue that that's proof that soccer/football is boring. I would argue that the relatively low number of goals shows that each goal has incomparably higher value than an NBA basket, where so many points are scored that basket become relatively meaningless.









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Reply #32 on: January 08, 2019, 06:45:20 PM

Big match this Sunday.  ManU vs Tottenham.  Both teams are 5-1 in their last six matches of this season.  Tottenham are two points behind ManU in the standings. The Red Army vs Spurs.


Good vs. Evil.

And, for the record, the Spurs, currently in 3rd place on the table, are two points behind Man City, and 10 points clear of Man U, who sit in 6th place.




I stand corrected. Got my Manchesters mixed up. But which team is good and which is evil?  ;D

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Reply #33 on: January 08, 2019, 06:59:40 PM

Big match this Sunday.  ManU vs Tottenham.  Both teams are 5-1 in their last six matches of this season.  Tottenham are two points behind ManU in the standings. The Red Army vs Spurs.


Good vs. Evil.

And, for the record, the Spurs, currently in 3rd place on the table, are two points behind Man City, and 10 points clear of Man U, who sit in 6th place.


I stand corrected. Got my Manchesters mixed up. But which team is good and which is evil?  ;D

MissB in her playing days...... 8)




Well, I was 6-10 years old in my playing days, and I don't recall ever wearing a thong under my shorts.

Man U is like the New York Yankees. They have a long and proud tradition of winning, but they spend gazillions of dollars every year buying the best players they can. As such, they're like the Evil Empire (and apologies to Chirp for the "Star Wars" reference).

The Spurs, on the other hand, didn't sign a single new player during last summer's transfer window. Yet there they sit toward the top of the table -- 10 points clear of Man U.

[insert scary gleeful laugh]






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Reply #34 on: January 08, 2019, 07:07:01 PM
Is ManU still owned by an American? 

I didn't even know she was wearing a thong. Shows you where my eyes were.  ;D

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Reply #35 on: January 08, 2019, 07:17:38 PM

Is ManU still owned by an American? 


Yes. It was acquired, in stages, by Malcolm Glazer, and it is now wholly owned by the Glazer family and run by his son Avram Glazer.



I didn't even know she was wearing a thong. Shows you where my eyes were.  ;D


I've long had a thing for athletic women, and a parallel and strong turn-off for models posing as athletes. Like the woman in question. So, the first thing I noticed was "fake boobs."






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Reply #36 on: January 08, 2019, 07:24:32 PM

Is ManU still owned by an American? 


Yes. It was acquired, in stages, by Malcolm Glazer, and it is now wholly owned by the Glazer family and run by his son Avram Glazer.



I didn't even know she was wearing a thong. Shows you where my eyes were.  ;D


I've long had a thing for athletic women, and a parallel and strong turn-off for models posing as athletes. Like the woman in question. So, the first thing I noticed was "fake boobs."



My eagle eyes are failing me.  Missed those too.  But you are right on models posing as athletes. I just wanted to post a sexy pic, not a porn pic. Arghhh

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Reply #37 on: January 08, 2019, 10:50:36 PM


IDFK if she's a "Real" soccer player.



Do you care?




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Reply #38 on: January 09, 2019, 12:19:03 AM


IDFK if she's a "Real" soccer player.



Do you care?




On the one hand, she's not.

On the other hand, I don't.






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Reply #40 on: January 09, 2019, 02:48:31 PM




Okay, this is scary:

When I wrote, above, "I've long had a thing for athletic women," she was precisely the woman I had in mind.

She makes my heart melt (and she's also the heart and soul of the USWNT).







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Reply #41 on: January 09, 2019, 04:00:10 PM
To get back on track, Harry Kane and the Spurs won their match yesterday 1-0 when he scored on a first half penalty kick to beat Chelsea in the first leg of its League Cup semifinal.

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Reply #42 on: January 09, 2019, 04:09:09 PM
When I wrote, above, "I've long had a thing for athletic women," she was precisely the woman I had in mind.

Yeah, she's usually the one they're talking about.



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Reply #43 on: January 09, 2019, 04:20:01 PM
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........Regardless, I appreciate your adding your comments to this thread. It's great to have an actual Englishman comment on English football, and not just some Janey-Come-Lately Yank like me..............

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Reply #44 on: January 09, 2019, 04:28:41 PM

a) Historically, the word "football" had nothing to do with kicking the ball. Association Football and Rugby Football (and, from them, American Football), are called "football" because they are played on foot, and not on horseback. Similarly, calling Association Football simply "Football" is technically incorrect, since removing the modifier removes the distinction between it and several other similarly-named sports.

b) That's true. But the word "soccer" is of English origin, a shortening of the term "Association Football." So it's your fault we use this term.

c) Every sport is "boring" if you don't understand it, or can't appreciate it. When I was an undergrad I went to a Cubs game (baseball) with a friend from India, and she was bored out of her skull. (And when she asked why the fan in the bleachers who caught the home run ball hit by the opposing team instantly threw it back onto the field, I gave up trying to explain it to her.) And I had that exact discussion about soccer/football vs. basketball a couple of days ago. Currently, in an NBA game, an average of 227 points are scored. In a Premier League match, an average of 2.84 goals are scored. The average American sports fan would argue that that's proof that soccer/football is boring. I would argue that the relatively low number of goals shows that each goal has incomparably higher value than an NBA basket, where so many points are scored that basket become relatively meaningless.









a) why isn't polo called horseball then?  ;D

c) Your words on the football v basketball scoring encapsulate my thoughts very succinctly.  Back in the 60s our World Cup winning manager Alf Ramsey (who also managed Ipswich) had a reputation for telling fans that they had seen some very good 0-0 draws.  He was right, sometimes!


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