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« Reply #1185 on: September 23, 2020, 04:02:34 PM »

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« Reply #1186 on: September 23, 2020, 11:31:22 PM »



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« Reply #1187 on: September 24, 2020, 01:30:36 AM »




I put more blame on the citizens.  Everybody is having grad parties.  People are still getting together.  Weddings, bars, college parties.   I see so many things being wrong that we have been told not to do.  



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« Reply #1188 on: September 24, 2020, 01:57:47 AM »

I put more blame on the citizens.  Everybody is having grad parties.  People are still getting together.  Weddings, bars, college parties.   I see so many things being wrong that we have been told not to do.  


That may be true, but I also believe that if the trumpster hadn't lied about the severity of the virus, and down play the whole thing, more of his followers may have taken it more serious as well.  By coming out saying thing thing is worse than the flu and can kill you, they may have had second thoughts about not following safety measures.

I still know dedicated trump fans who think that as soon as Biden wins, there will be no more coverage of the virus.  facepalm
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« Reply #1189 on: September 24, 2020, 02:38:48 AM »

I put more blame on the citizens.  Everybody is having grad parties.  People are still getting together.  Weddings, bars, college parties.   I see so many things being wrong that we have been told not to do.  


That may be true, but I also believe that if the trumpster hadn't lied about the severity of the virus, and down play the whole thing, more of his followers may have taken it more serious as well.  By coming out saying thing thing is worse than the flu and can kill you, they may have had second thoughts about not following safety measures.

I still know dedicated trump fans who think that as soon as Biden wins, there will be no more coverage of the virus.  facepalm

The lies, the politicization of disease, contradicting the undisputed experts, attacking anyone who actually attempted to do something, promoting snake oil and unproven cures.  He didn’t cause it, but he made it 100 times worse.
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« Reply #1190 on: September 24, 2020, 07:01:27 PM »

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« Reply #1191 on: September 25, 2020, 12:37:24 PM »

Desperate times call for desperate measures! Good find.  emot_laughing
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« Reply #1192 on: October 18, 2020, 01:15:08 AM »



Republican response, and infection rates...

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« Reply #1193 on: October 18, 2020, 09:58:56 AM »

Was at the airport in the evening picking up the mother-in-law.  What a desolate place that has become.  She went to Peru to avoid the winter here and was supposed to come back in April.  Several canceled flights later she arrives back home 6 months late, just in time for winter.
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« Reply #1194 on: October 18, 2020, 06:30:20 PM »

Was at the airport in the evening picking up the mother-in-law.  What a desolate place that has become.  She went to Peru to avoid the winter here and was supposed to come back in April.  Several canceled flights later she arrives back home 6 months late, just in time for winter.

Yes, the airport's curbside pickup and dropoff areas are so different.  I expect a tumble weed to come blowing through my last few times there.   It's not at all like it was preCovid.   At Detroit Metro it might have taken 15 minutes just to get through the traffic backup leading into those areas.   Now it's as easy as driving right in at the speed limit, drop/pickup your party, and on your way.
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« Reply #1195 on: October 18, 2020, 07:03:22 PM »

Was at the airport in the evening picking up the mother-in-law.  What a desolate place that has become.  She went to Peru to avoid the winter here and was supposed to come back in April.  Several canceled flights later she arrives back home 6 months late, just in time for winter.

Yes, the airport's curbside pickup and dropoff areas are so different.  I expect a tumble weed to come blowing through my last few times there.   It's not at all like it was preCovid.   At Detroit Metro it might have taken 15 minutes just to get through the traffic backup leading into those areas.   Now it's as easy as driving right in at the speed limit, drop/pickup your party, and on your way.


Due to overseeing some landscaping on the property yesterday, I walked way too much on my post-surgery ankle.  So it was a relief to park so close to international arrivals and not have to limp so far.
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« Reply #1196 on: October 18, 2020, 07:06:15 PM »

Sorry for the re-post, but it is particularly relevent here:



While I don't believe COVID was developed as a bio weapon, who could have made one more perfect?

It's not the flu -- we know how to make vaccines for the flu.   Instead it's a Corona Virus which we have not previously found a need to develop a vaccine against.

The mortality rate is not particularly high when compared to historical plagues like the black death or smallpox, or even more modern ones like Ebola, but it is higher than the flu which is concerning.

The scariest thing about COVID-19 is that it is far more contagious than the flu, and for those that catch it there is a 19% possibility that they will be disabled for a long time if not for life.  This represents a serious economic drain in terms of care & lost productivity.

So think on it.  A bio-weapon does not have to kill to be effective; just produce lots of casualties that will be a drain on our economy for a long time.

The reason I don't believe it is a bio-weapon is that it is attacking every nation on earth.  No one is immune.  It would be stupid for any nation to develop such weapon without having first developed a vaccine.
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« Reply #1197 on: October 18, 2020, 07:12:12 PM »

Not sure we really know the lethality.  If you remove active infections with no outcome yet and look strictly at deaths vs. recovered, it looks more like 4% not 1%.

And I said recovered, not fully recovered.  We may never know how many lives were cut short by this.
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« Reply #1198 on: October 18, 2020, 07:48:42 PM »

I think it is just assuming a 1% mortality.  But mortality isnt really the issue in my last post, the casualties are.
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« Reply #1199 on: October 26, 2020, 06:24:19 AM »

Trump’s chief of staff says, ‘We’re not going to control the pandemic.’

Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, falsely said on CNN’s “State of the Union” that it was futile to try to control the coronavirus.

Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, said on Sunday that the United States was not going to control the spread of the coronavirus, which has killed more than 225,000 Americans and is surging across the country.

“We’re not going to control the pandemic,” Mr. Meadows said on CNN’s “State of the Union” when asked about the lack of mask wearing at President Trump’s campaign events. “We are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigations.”

Face masks can significantly reduce coronavirus transmission, and wearing them is one of the most basic precautions public health experts recommend while scientists work to develop a vaccine and better treatments. But Mr. Trump and his aides have repeatedly laid out a false choice, implying that the only two options are to flout public health guidelines as he has, or to “lock everybody down” and “quarantine all of America,” as Mr. Meadows put it on Sunday.

Democrats responded quickly to Mr. Meadows’s comments, saying they showed that the Trump administration was not even trying to slow transmission of the virus.

“They’ve given up on their basic duty to protect the American people,” former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democratic nominee for president, said in a statement. “This wasn’t a slip by Meadows. It was a candid acknowledgment of what President Trump’s strategy has clearly been from the beginning of this crisis: to wave the white flag of defeat and hope that by ignoring it, the virus would simply go away. It hasn’t, and it won’t.”

Infections have surged across the United States since the beginning of October, when Mr. Trump announced that he had tested positive for the coronavirus and it became clear that there was an outbreak in the White House. There now appears to be a second outbreak among aides to Vice President Mike Pence, and on Friday the country set a single-day record for new confirmed cases.

Despite this, an ABC News/Ipsos poll released Sunday found that Republicans were less likely to be concerned about the virus now than they were at the beginning of the month. Sixty percent of Republicans said they were concerned that they or someone they knew would be infected, compared with 70 percent who said the same in an ABC/Ipsos poll in early October.

Democrats moved in the opposite direction: 96 percent said they were somewhat or very concerned, up from 86 percent.

Mr. Pence is continuing to travel for campaign events even though he was in close contact with his chief of staff, Marc Short, who tested positive. Mr. Meadows defended that decision on Sunday by claiming the vice president was performing “essential” duties that exempted him from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s guidance to quarantine after exposure to the virus.

The C.D.C. guidelines allow “critical infrastructure workers” to continue working after an exposure if they are asymptomatic. But campaigning is not essential work, and Mr. Meadows did not identify the ostensibly essential activities he said Mr. Pence would be performing.

The guidelines also state that a critical worker who has been exposed should “wear a face mask at all times,” which neither Mr. Pence nor others in the Trump administration have done
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