Trump v. Biden - quick poll

[lorenzokb]

The smartest thing Biden can do right now is to remain quiet. Trump is repeatedly putting his foot in his mouth that is causing his own party to begin to wonder what is going on. Trump praises people like Elon Musk for defying the California governor and reopening his Tesla plant while his science guy, Dr Fauci, continues to warn the nation on the perils of opening up businesses too soon.

Its really pretty simple.  The left wants America to fall into economic ruin while Trump try's to prevent it by taking reasonable measures against the virus and keeping the chicken little detractors at bay.  Simply stated, the left is using this virus scare to try to turn the USA into something its not, a socialist and onto a communist form of government.  In the entire history of civilized mankind have those two forms of government ever succeeded.

[Shiela_M]

The smartest thing Biden can do right now is to remain quiet. Trump is repeatedly putting his foot in his mouth that is causing his own party to begin to wonder what is going on. Trump praises people like Elon Musk for defying the California governor and reopening his Tesla plant while his science guy, Dr Fauci, continues to warn the nation on the perils of opening up businesses too soon.

Its really pretty simple.  The left wants America to fall into economic ruin while Trump try's to prevent it by taking reasonable measures against the virus and keeping the chicken little detractors at bay.  Simply stated, the left is using this virus scare to try to turn the USA into something its not, a socialist and onto a communist form of government.  In the entire history of civilized mankind have those two forms of government ever succeeded.

My apologies, but you're Wrong.  Just so obviously wrong

[MissBarbara]

Its really pretty simple.  The left wants America to fall into economic ruin while Trump try's to prevent it by taking reasonable measures against the virus and keeping the chicken little detractors at bay.  Simply stated, the left is using this virus scare to try to turn the USA into something its not, a socialist and onto a communist form of government.  In the entire history of civilized mankind have those two forms of government ever succeeded.

My apologies, but you're Wrong.  Just so obviously wrong

So completely and obviously wrong that it isn't worth the time to respond.

Okay, one small point:

"virus scare"

There are about 87,000 Americans (as of this morning) -- along with hundreds of thousands of their friends and family members -- who would dispute that what we're currently experiencing is a "virus scare."

[Lois]

I hardly think the left wants the economy to tank.  One thing about the left is they care more about the common folks than rich folks.  Who will suffer more if the economy crashes???  It sure won't be the rich folks.

I am concerned right now about the working poor that does not qualify for Unemployment benefits.  I meet people day after day whose employers never paid UI and are now getting nothing.  I would really prefer that these people could make a living so they don't get kicked out on the streets.  But I am also concerned about Hospitals and medical professionals getting swamped with sick people to the point they do not get proper care.

And as the Pandemic keeps going we are finding out more and more about it.  People have been left with permanant heart, lung, kidney & liver damage.  Young adults are dropping dead from blood-clots after having the virus, and a small but rising number of children recovering from the virus are developing overlapping features of toxic shock syndrome and atypical Kawasaki disease with blood parameters.  Kawaski syndrome is an autoimmune disorder wherein antibodies attack the body's blood vessels.  These health complications will strain our economy for years to come.

So we need to access carefully how we reopen, and how to keep our most vulnerable safe.

[lorenzokb]

I hardly think the left wants the economy to tank.  One thing about the left is they care more about the common folks than rich folks.  Who will suffer more if the economy crashes???  It sure won't be the rich folks.

I am concerned right now about the working poor that does not qualify for Unemployment benefits.  I meet people day after day whose employers never paid UI and are now getting nothing.  I would really prefer that these people could make a living so they don't get kicked out on the streets.  But I am also concerned about Hospitals and medical professionals getting swamped with sick people to the point they do not get proper care.

And as the Pandemic keeps going we are finding out more and more about it.  People have been left with permanant heart, lung, kidney & liver damage.  Young adults are dropping dead from blood-clots after having the virus, and a small but rising number of children recovering from the virus are developing overlapping features of toxic shock syndrome and atypical Kawasaki disease with blood parameters.  Kawaski syndrome is an autoimmune disorder wherein antibodies attack the body's blood vessels.  These health complications will strain our economy for years to come.

So we need to access carefully how we reopen, and how to keep our most vulnerable safe.

Oh pay attention.  The 'rich' you are referring to are mostly on the left.  There are more on the left that are rich than on the right. 

[_priapism]

According to Forbes Magazine, of the 50 richest families in America, 28 mainly donate to Republicans and only seven contribute mainly to Democrats. Not all families stay on the same side of the political spectrum — 15 support candidates from both parties.

Wrong again, lorenzokb.

[Lois]

There may be more middle-class families voting Democrat, and certainly a majority of college educated folks vote Democrat.

[joan1984]

"Jim Crow JoE" is not a new name for Joe Biden, I have learned.
Not so new that Diamond & Silk invented the moniker, as I believed today when I saw Diamond & Silk use "Jim Crow JoE" for JoE Biden, when they addressed the incoming ten's of thousands of President Trump's Rally supporters in Tulsa, OK as they helped warm up the crowd.

Google of "Jim Crow JoE" results show Biden earned that moniker as Senator:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=391&v=iUj8T50PZ20&feature=emb_logo

My, my, Joe seems to have stirred up a number of negative feelings, not only when he told so many "they are not really Black" if they wonder who to vote for in November 2020... more to come, no doubt.

 For those who recently found out they may be "not Black", according to "Jim Crow JoE" (so dubbed by 'Diamond & Silk" today in their address to the massive crowd of Trump Supporters in Tulsa, OK), here is the link you have been looking for:

  Seriously, Black or not Black, all are welcomed by our President. Tune in and
enjoy the Rally, ongoing at this time, with the President expected shortly, as the Rally Participants continue to flow into the arena.

  Enjoy![/color]

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[PoorJim]

I'd go third party if the nation wasn't so polarized one way or the other but given the choices available...

[jbbooks]

No way will I ever vote for Biden and I have been a democrat all my life.

[jbbooks]

 

I feel Kamala is perfect for Atty Gen.

[_priapism]

No way will I ever vote for Biden and I have been a democrat all my life.

Clinton has only herself to blame for her lose, not Russia, The FBI, no one but herself and her own self entitlement. She felt and probably still feels she really did nothing wrong, that she ran an open and honest campaign. I would out voted for her, but I just could not trust her. For me that was the deciding factor. The Democrats will continue to blame everything and everybody for their lose. When in fact they took so many people and States for granted. While Trump has said some outrageous things during his campaign, at least it was honest and not scripted by some damn speech writers with talking points. He spoken to what a lot of us were feeling but in our "PC" climate we never expressed openly. It is people like Clinton who have put this country in the shape that it is in and there was just now way she could convince me that she could or would fix anything. What we needed was a Washington Outsider. If Trump blows the system up so be it. Maybe it can be re-built into something better. So if the Democrats want to blame Russia and their hacking so be it. The real blame lays at the feet of the career Washington Insiders like Clinton. I may not agree with our President-elect on everything he says or is going to do, but at least he will be honest about what he does.     

Yeah.  Life.  Long.  Democrat.

How’s that blowing up the system working for you?

[MissBarbara]

I'd go third party if the nation wasn't so polarized one way or the other but given the choices available...

In what ways is the nation "so polarized"?

I know that's a phrase that, at this point, I've heard more than a thousand times, and repeating it ad nauseam doesn't make it any more true.

If you mean that the American populace has differing points of view on issues, well, we've been like that since before the ink on the Constitution even dried. Most to the point, the U.S. is in no way "more polarized" than at previous times in our history. Take, for example, the period between 1861-1865...

A lot of people arguing and declaiming on social media sites isn't an example of "polarization." It's simply an example of social media being what it is.

[joan1984]

  So, Jim, which way are you planning to vote?
 
  Will you vote: Pro Biden/Unknown... or Anti Biden/Unknown... ?

  Do you believe everything Joe Biden says?  Of course not.

  Do you believe anything Joe Biden has said he will do?  

  Do you believe 'whoever' will actually make decisions, hiding behind JoE's "name". will make the decisions with which you wholly Agree and Support?
  
  If so, WHY?  What makes you believe as you believe?

  Is there ANYTHING JoE Biden has actually DONE, Completed, Finished, that you wholeheartedly agreed, which you expected him to do? Something those who voted for Biden expected, believed he would accomplish when they cast their Ballot for JoE? (Voters, not Bankers, I mean)?

  Is Susan Rice a sound, honest, decision maker who by her past actions speaks for YOU... A person you willingly trust with Your Future?

I'd go third party if the nation wasn't so polarized one way or the other but given the choices available...

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[watcher1]

I'd go third party if the nation wasn't so polarized one way or the other but given the choices available...

In what ways is the nation "so polarized"?

I know that's a phrase that, at this point, I've heard more than a thousand times, and repeating it ad nauseam doesn't make it any more true.

If you mean that the American populace has differing points of view on issues, well, we've been like that since before the ink on the Constitution even dried. Most to the point, the U.S. is in no way "more polarized" than at previous times in our history. Take, for example, the period between 1861-1865...

A lot of people arguing and declaiming on social media sites isn't an example of "polarization." It's simply an example of social media being what it is.

I think both political parties are polarized, or heading that way, as moderates from both parties have either been voted out of office or declined to run for another term.

[_priapism]

I think the current sense of polarization is a byproduct of the 24/7 news cycle, social media, bot farms, and our addiction to personal devices and computers.  We are bombarded with 1,000’s of images daily, and unfortunately a lot of people lack the emotional maturity and/or spiritual tranquility to look past all that.

America is too fucking stupid to put on masks and practice social distancing.  Too stupid to consider a day glo orange pussy grabber might not be suited for the office of POTUS.  We have the government we deserve, because we are the ones who elected them.  We see our image in the mirror and hate it.  But the reflection that government provides will never change until we do first.

[Shiela_M]

We see our image in the mirror and hate it.  But the reflection that government provides will never change until we do first.

Everybody wants to change the world
But one thing's clear
No one ever wants to change themselves
That's the way things are
All because we hate the buzzkill
Jaded when we need to feel
But we can change it all if you really want it - Nothing More

[joan1984]

"...America is too fucking stupid to put on masks and practice social distancing.  Too stupid to consider a day glo orange pussy grabber might not be suited for the office of POTUS.  We have the government we deserve, because we are the ones who elected them.  We see our image in the mirror and hate it.  But the reflection that government provides will never change until we do first..."

   Hard to imagine how awful a prospect it was, could be, to elect Hillary Clinton, that any alternative, especially one offering an attempt to dislodge 'The Swamp', was well worth the 'chance'...

   And, until the Covid 19 Pandemic, Trump delivered prosperity, common sense, relief from cumbersome and worrisome 'regulation' for its own sake, and the promise of a booming economy, in only the first 3 years, facing organized resistance from nearly ALL elected officials... those who were dragged along to prosperity, mostly only came along for their own personal gain... exceptions can be counted without removal of shoes...

  Covid 19 response has taught us all, there is no good reason to Shut Down the United States of America economy, and every reason to find alternative ways to continue to grow our GDP, in spite of temporary hardships...

  The true face of the left is now showing, promising more of the same, and we all need to recognize what our nation can accomplish, even when a majority of elected officials dig their heels in to thwart common sense decision making, to Make America Great, and Keep America Great into the future.

  Failure now, giving into the pressure by Leftists, including the Press/Media, for  unknown, regressive, return to the malaise of 2009 to 2016, is unthinkable. We are better than that. Trump is showing our national resilience, ability to work to overcome adversity, and the value of using common sense to sort out the future, regardless of the scheming of 'elected for life' weasels now in Congress.

  All 'Political Parties' require significant change, still, realistic agreement on the "possible", SOON, so we may move forward, to save this country, and afford prosperity into the future, to all our Citizens, and their Children.