What are you listening to?

[msslave]

Well Toe, you certainly have told us often enough how you enjoy beating something.

Must have been all that drum training .   

[Pornhubby]

Well Toe, you certainly have told us often enough how you enjoy beating something.

Must have been all that drum training .   

[Hilda]

There are 13 “essential” rudiments of drumming, which evolved from Anglo-Saxon militaristic tradition. All percussionists start snare drumming lessons using the “traditional grip” of the left stick.

Thanks for the explanation and the link.

My interest in drumming styles was piqued by reading a fictional account, based on contemporary records, of the Earl of Peterborough's expedition to Spain  in 1705-6 (Philip Woodruff. The Colonel of Dragoons. London: Jonathan Cape, 1951). The actions of the soldiers were synchronized by drum beats. For example:

Now the drums beat a ruffle ending with a single flam, on which the men drew their swords and with a loud huzza ran to their arms as though charging an imaginary foe. Now came a second ruffle and on the final flam the men were drawn up again in their ranks, swords sheathed, muskets at the order. (p. 32)

[Hilda]

I had plans to go to Charlotte North Carolina to watch this masterful man perform about 10 years ago.  The Detroit Symphony Orchestra had secured tickets from the Charlotte Symphony Orchestra and being a pianist, I was one of the first to be offered.  Our flight from Detroit was delayed not once, not twice, but three times.  After a 6 hour delay and then having to wait for a replacement plane, we all decided to cancel as we had plans for that day and early the next morning in Charlotte, watching El Bacha, then getting on a very early morning flight the following morning.  I was so disappointed.   

Sorry for the belated response. I've spent the last few days struggling to recall if I passed through Charlotte when I took the girls for a long-distance drive from Chapel Hill NC to San Antonio TX.

I was very late discovering El Bacha. I've accumulated so many recordings that I spend most of my time revisiting old favourites, not searching for unfamiliar artists.

[Shiela_M]

Just had a very interesting song play through youtube music called

I Glued My Balls to My Butthole Again

Childish as hell but made me giggle

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=yuoFsi2iIi0&si=gT87_t7nc3rGuGhQ

[Hilda]

• Fever Tree. The Man Who Paints the Pictures. (Michael Knust)
• Blue Öyster Cult. Don't Fear the Reaper. (Buck Dharma)
• John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers. The Supernatural. (Peter Green)
• Free. Heavy Load. (Paul Kossoff)

I love re-visiting these tracks for the sustained guitar notes.

All four are from the late '60s, when contolling feedback was a black art.

These days a foot pedal will achieve the same effect. 

[Hilda]

I have over twenty copies of Bach's Goldberg Variations in my collection, ranging from Wanda Landowska to Víkingur Ólafsson.

The ones I keep coming back to are Helmut Walcha and Simone Dinnerstein. Walcha when I'm in the mood to take my Bach perfectly straight and Dinnerstein when I want it perfectly mellow.

[Hilda]

I'm listening to a batch of Junior Wells albums, some with his Chicago Blues Band, some with Buddy Guy.

I was aware that most British blues bands of the 60s and 70s featured two or three Junior Wells numbers in their set lists, but what led me to the originals was a standout track called "Junior's Wailing" by British band Steamhammer. I assumed that the title referred to Junior Wells. What I didn't know, until a few days ago, was that he recorded an instrumental called "Junior's Wail". I listened to it, then to "Messin' with the Kid", then to "Good Morning Little Schoogirl", then to "It Hurts Me Too", and then to dozens of other tracks that were covered by UK and US musicians.

Truly one of great music influencers.

[MissBarbara]

I'm listening to a batch of Junior Wells albums, some with his Chicago Blues Band, some with Buddy Guy.

I was aware that most British blues bands of the 60s and 70s featured two or three Junior Wells numbers in their set lists, but what led me to the originals was a standout track called "Junior's Wailing" by British band Steamhammer. I assumed that the title referred to Junior Wells. What I didn't know, until a few days ago, was that he recorded an instrumental called "Junior's Wail". I listened to it, then to "Messin' with the Kid", then to "Good Morning Little Schoogirl", then to "It Hurts Me Too", and then to dozens of other tracks that were covered by UK and US musicians.

Truly one of great music influencers.

I'm a huge Junior Wells fan (and an even bigger Buddy Guy fan), and his influence can't be understated.

He's the "second" Chess session harp player, after Little Walter, and I prefer his style -- and especially his singing -- over Little Walter.

Slightly OT, but I have a minor obsession with the song "It Hurts Me Too" (sometimes called "If Things Go Wrong With You It Hurts Me Too." It's been covered dozens of dozens of times, in different styles. Clapton recorded two different versions: One is a slow, Quaalude soaked version where it sounds like he's almost falling the sleep. The other is a loud, gritty, uptempo version. It's one of those songs that arose from the mists of the blues that no one knows who wrote it. It's typically attributed to Tampa Red, who recorded it in 1931, and Elmore James made it one of his signature songs with a version he recorded in 1957. Many others, including Big Bill Broonzy, Junior Wells (who recorded three different versions), Freddie King, Paul Butterfield, John Mayall, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, Van Morrison, Sonny Landreth (another one of my favorite artists) and the Grateful Dead have recorded versions of the song. My favorite version (apologies to Junior Wells et al.) is by Hound Dog Taylor. He's was a spiritual disciple of Elmore James, and his version really cooks.

[Writers Bloque]

The entire Sound and fury album by Stirgill Simpson. Well worth the listen, a beautiful blend of modern and classic rock.

[Pornhubby]

I haven’t cared for him since he recorded “Keep It Between The Lines” which was a blatant rip off of The Black Crows’ “Hard To Handle.”

No offense.

[Writers Bloque]

I haven’t cared for him since he recorded “Keep It Between The Lines” which was a blatant rip off of The Black Crows’ “Hard To Handle.”

No offense.

Bruh, that hurts on a whole new level. I'm Kidding. I like listening to that one album, because the videos for it are impressive. I find most of his catalogue a bit cringy, and "trying to hard." I cant tell with some of his music if he is parodying something and failing, or if it was his honest attempt. But like I said, its just that block of music from Sound and Fury that I am drawn too. To me its like Nirvana covering Meat Puppets Lake of Fire. Now there is where I can say the cover is better, because the meat puppets song was a bit whiny in the vocals. That whole situation reminds me of the Queen/Bowie vs Vanilla Ice situation, where it was claimed Ice ripped off parts of Under Pressure from them in "Ice Ice Baby" But right now the music changed on my play list to "Gimme 3 Steps." a good song as the storm rolls in as I sip a whiskey neat, reading on my covered back porch my collection of Heavy Metal magazines. Also your opinion never causes offense.

[Pornhubby]

The other plagiarism song that pissed me off was Lady Antebellum's “Need You Now.” an obvious (and uncredited) rewrite of the Alan Parsons Project's 1982 hit “Eye in the Sky.” There was a lawsuit over that one. Lady Antebellum won.

[Writers Bloque]

The other plagiarism song that pissed me off was Lady Antebellum's “Need You Now.” an obvious (and uncredited) rewrite of the Alan Parsons Project's 1982 hit “Eye in the Sky.” There was a lawsuit over that one. Lady Antebellum won.

There was a ton of them that turned me off to certain songs. Like all the modern covers of American Woman by Jimmy Hendrix who I believe was the biggest closeted DnD fan, I mean who sings a song about a watchtower that doesn't sound like the best intro to a campaign ever. its like how Metallica covered Bob Segers Turn the Page. Bob put that heart and soul into it, where you felt the feeling of his wearing down from the life, the looks of the people in the bar around him, questioning if he was a woman or man, because of his long hair, the last drag of the day's last cigarette before trying to settle down to sleep, being too strung out from the day to even close your eyes despite being dead tired. But Metallica replaced all that with hard riffs. The song is covered Okay, but it isnt Seger.

[MissBarbara]

I haven’t cared for him since he recorded “Keep It Between The Lines” which was a blatant rip off of The Black Crows’ “Hard To Handle.”

No offense.

And the Black Crowe's version of "Hard to Handle" is a cover of a song written and recorded by Otis Redding in 1967 with the Stax House band.

I'm not an attorney, a copyright expert, or a musicologist, but I hear only the vaguest similarities between "Keep It Between the Lines" and either version of "Hard to Handle" (and I had never heard or heard of that band or that song before). It's a very basic chord progression, and there are thousands of blues and R&B bands that had horns playing riffs like those.

Covers are not plagiarism, since the covering artists pays a licensing fee to the original performer or composer in order to record their version. And bands and singers have been covering others' songs for at least a century.

For example, the Rolling Stones first (self-titled) album was recorded in early 1964 contains 12 songs, only one of which was written by "Jagger-Richards." The other 11 songs are all covers (and credited to the original songwriter).

[Hilda]

I'm a huge Junior Wells fan (and an even bigger Buddy Guy fan), and his influence can't be understated.

He's the "second" Chess session harp player, after Little Walter, and I prefer his style -- and especially his singing -- over Little Walter.

Slightly OT, but I have a minor obsession with the song "It Hurts Me Too" (sometimes called "If Things Go Wrong With You It Hurts Me Too." It's been covered dozens of dozens of times, in different styles. Clapton recorded two different versions: One is a slow, Quaalude soaked version where it sounds like he's almost falling the sleep. The other is a loud, gritty, uptempo version. It's one of those songs that arose from the mists of the blues that no one knows who wrote it. It's typically attributed to Tampa Red, who recorded it in 1931, and Elmore James made it one of his signature songs with a version he recorded in 1957. Many others, including Big Bill Broonzy, Junior Wells (who recorded three different versions), Freddie King, Paul Butterfield, John Mayall, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, Van Morrison, Sonny Landreth (another one of my favorite artists) and the Grateful Dead have recorded versions of the song. My favorite version (apologies to Junior Wells et al.) is by Hound Dog Taylor. He's was a spiritual disciple of Elmore James, and his version really cooks.

Thank you, Miss Barbara, for that treasure trove of information. I have several versions of "It Hurts Me Too", including one by Elmore James. Two artists (Foghat and Buster Brown) credit Elmore as the composer. The others give no composer information. I had no idea that the song went back to the '30s.

I didn't know about Tampa Red, even though there are ten tracks by him in the 52-CD "ABC of the Blues" collection published by Hohner as, I think, a way of promoting their harmonicas. I dip into it from time to time but missed Tampa Red. Although the collection doesn't contain "It Hurts Me Too" it does have gems such as "Let Me Play with Your Poodle".
 
I'd never heard of either Hound Dog Taylor or Sonny Landreth. Thanks to you, I'm catching up fast. So much good music; so little time.

[joan1984]

Tom Macdonald   

   

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[MissBarbara]

I'm a huge Junior Wells fan (and an even bigger Buddy Guy fan), and his influence can't be understated.

He's the "second" Chess session harp player, after Little Walter, and I prefer his style -- and especially his singing -- over Little Walter.

Slightly OT, but I have a minor obsession with the song "It Hurts Me Too" (sometimes called "If Things Go Wrong With You It Hurts Me Too." It's been covered dozens of dozens of times, in different styles. Clapton recorded two different versions: One is a slow, Quaalude soaked version where it sounds like he's almost falling the sleep. The other is a loud, gritty, uptempo version. It's one of those songs that arose from the mists of the blues that no one knows who wrote it. It's typically attributed to Tampa Red, who recorded it in 1931, and Elmore James made it one of his signature songs with a version he recorded in 1957. Many others, including Big Bill Broonzy, Junior Wells (who recorded three different versions), Freddie King, Paul Butterfield, John Mayall, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, Van Morrison, Sonny Landreth (another one of my favorite artists) and the Grateful Dead have recorded versions of the song. My favorite version (apologies to Junior Wells et al.) is by Hound Dog Taylor. He's was a spiritual disciple of Elmore James, and his version really cooks.

Thank you, Miss Barbara, for that treasure trove of information. I have several versions of "It Hurts Me Too", including one by Elmore James. Two artists (Foghat and Buster Brown) credit Elmore as the composer. The others give no composer information. I had no idea that the song went back to the '30s.

I didn't know about Tampa Red, even though there are ten tracks by him in the 52-CD "ABC of the Blues" collection published by Hohner as, I think, a way of promoting their harmonicas. I dip into it from time to time but missed Tampa Red. Although the collection doesn't contain "It Hurts Me Too" it does have gems such as "Let Me Play with Your Poodle".
 
I'd never heard of either Hound Dog Taylor or Sonny Landreth. Thanks to you, I'm catching up fast. So much good music; so little time.

There is a lot of "roots music" -- both in the U.S and in virtually every other country and culture -- that was first created in the mists of time, and that became popular (and attributed) only after it was recorded. "It Hurts Me Too" is one of thousands of examples. Another example is Leadbelly's "Good Night Irene" (or "Irene, Goodnight" which is widely attributed to him (and credited to him as the songwriter) because he recorded it in 1933. He didn't "wrote the song," since there was sheet music published for the song in 1886 (before he was born), and Leadbelly said that he first became aware of the song when he heard his uncle playing it when he was a little boy. 

Sonny Landreth is sometimes referred to as a "Slydeco" player, since most of his music is Zydeco (Cajun roots music) played in a blues style on a slide guitar. He's a virtuoso, and Eric Clapton once said that he couldn't play like Sonny Landreth if he practiced for 100 years. If you want a representative sampling of his work, listen to "Orphans of the Motherland," "Creole Angel," and Back to "Bayou Teche." And listen to the YouTube video "Sonny Landreth - Key To The Highway - 7/27/2017 - Paste Studios, New York, NY," where he's playing an acoustic resonator guitar.

Hound Dog Taylor is in the electric blues-man tradition (he was born and raised in the Mississippi Delta region, moved north to Chicago looking for work, and played in local clubs until he was "discovered" in the late 1960s, when he was already older than 50. He and his band, the Houserockers, produced some of the rawest blues you'll every hear. The played beat up guitars and used crappy amps, and the band consisted of only three guys, Hound Dog, who played electric slide guitar, a second guitarist, and an drummed (i.e. no bass players). Some of this representative songs include "Give Me Back My Wig," "See Me in the Evening," "Sadie," and his cover of "It Hurts Me Too," along with several Elmore James covers.

Enjoy!

[Hilda]

There is a lot of "roots music" -- both in the U.S and in virtually every other country and culture -- that was first created in the mists of time, and that became popular (and attributed) only after it was recorded. "It Hurts Me Too" is one of thousands of examples. Another example is Leadbelly's "Good Night Irene" (or "Irene, Goodnight" which is widely attributed to him (and credited to him as the songwriter) because he recorded it in 1933. He didn't "wrote the song," since there was sheet music published for the song in 1886 (before he was born), and Leadbelly said that he first became aware of the song when he heard his uncle playing it when he was a little boy. 

Sonny Landreth is sometimes referred to as a "Slydeco" player, since most of his music is Zydeco (Cajun roots music) played in a blues style on a slide guitar. He's a virtuoso, and Eric Clapton once said that he couldn't play like Sonny Landreth if he practiced for 100 years. If you want a representative sampling of his work, listen to "Orphans of the Motherland," "Creole Angel," and Back to "Bayou Teche." And listen to the YouTube video "Sonny Landreth - Key To The Highway - 7/27/2017 - Paste Studios, New York, NY," where he's playing an acoustic resonator guitar.

Hound Dog Taylor is in the electric blues-man tradition (he was born and raised in the Mississippi Delta region, moved north to Chicago looking for work, and played in local clubs until he was "discovered" in the late 1960s, when he was already older than 50. He and his band, the Houserockers, produced some of the rawest blues you'll every hear. The played beat up guitars and used crappy amps, and the band consisted of only three guys, Hound Dog, who played electric slide guitar, a second guitarist, and an drummed (i.e. no bass players). Some of this representative songs include "Give Me Back My Wig," "See Me in the Evening," "Sadie," and his cover of "It Hurts Me Too," along with several Elmore James covers.

Your reply to my message is a keeper. I've copied the text to a separate file for future reference.

I'll attribute authorship to "Miss Barbara, Mistress of the Blues".   

I took a look at the Sonny Landreth YouTube video, then followed links to videos of him demonstrating his slide guitar technique. Compulsive viewing for someone who learnt to play lute and classical guitar but harboured dreams of plugging a Fender or Gibson into a 500-watt Marshall stack.

I'll chime in again when I've had an opportunity to follow up on your song recommendations.

[Hilda]

I'm listening to "The Death of J. B. Lenoir" on John Mayalls' Crusade album (1967).

"The Blues has lost a king"