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on: August 03, 2023, 10:53:06 PM

Last night I was paging through the Land's End catalog, and a thought struck me: Am I subconsciously influenced by the race of the model?

I'm not viewing this in a negative way, but does the model's race subconsciously make the given clothing item seem more appropriate to me?

I don't have an answer, and Land's End is probably a bad example, since their clothes are relatively generic.







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Reply #1 on: August 04, 2023, 02:08:43 AM
I wonder if Amazon keeps suggesting things like this for me, because the algorithm knows I like cameltoes? 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
 


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Reply #2 on: August 04, 2023, 02:27:55 AM
I remember in my youth waiting for the new Sears catalog. That and National Geographic were my go to sources to fap. Hey it was long before the Internet was even dreamed about yet.

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Reply #3 on: August 04, 2023, 03:47:49 AM
Sears, JC Penney, and Monkey Wards. They all had the youth undergarments. All the photos of training bras and panties, and nobody thought anything about putting all of that in the catalog. Kept a young man happy.

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Reply #4 on: August 04, 2023, 05:16:37 AM
Last night I was paging through the Land's End catalog, and a thought struck me: Am I subconsciously influenced by the race of the model?

I'm not viewing this in a negative way, but does the model's race subconsciously make the given clothing item seem more appropriate to me?

I don't have an answer, and Land's End is probably a bad example, since their clothes are relatively generic.

It's been ages since we purchased from Land's End. I took a quick look at the website and, yes, there's been a major change in the ethnic diversity of the models.

Whether that reflects customer preferences or corporate policy, I don't know. I've purchased items from Asian online stores where most of the models were decidedly non-Asian. Imprinted ideals of beauty must surely influence consumers, and I can imagine the disappointment that Asian buyers feel when a dress doesn't look as good on them as it did on a slim, leggy blonde. Now that I think of it, the items I purchased from those stores weren't a good fit. I chose what I thought were the correct sizes, but the items were probably tailored on Asian fit models before going into mass production.

I remember sitting in on a seminar at which two researchers presented a paper on targeted advertising in the cosmetic industry. Ethnicity came into that as well. After a great start the two ladies drifted into a denunciation of male-dominated capitalism and the enslavement of female consumers. I was hoping for specific examples of subtle psychological triggers influencing the choice of make-up.



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Reply #5 on: August 04, 2023, 05:19:09 AM
Sears, JC Penney, and Monkey Wards. They all had the youth undergarments. All the photos of training bras and panties, and nobody thought anything about putting all of that in the catalog. Kept a young man happy.

I had to look up "Monkey Wards". My guess was correct, but I had no idea of its origin. I thought it was just a nickname, along the lines of "Marks and Sparks" for Marks & Spencer. According to Google Bard it came from a chimpanzee who was an attraction at the Chicago store.

Mind you, I'm beginning to have my doubts about AI-assisted search engines. I spent several minutes modifying a question about the small gambling boards I remembered from my childhood, and Bard kept insisting that they were "Chuck-a-luck" boards, even though the suggested images looked nothing like the ones I recall. Several searches using other engines returned the correct name: Punchboards.



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Reply #6 on: August 04, 2023, 03:43:38 PM
Montgomery Ward was once one of the largest retailers in North America. Together with Sears and J.C. Penney & Co., they were the Amazon of the 1880’s to 1980’s. You could buy anything, including houses and motor vehicles from their catalogues.

All three had lavish Christmas catalogues with every toy and gift a kid could want. We would circle hundreds of items, in case Santa needed some suggestions.

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Reply #7 on: August 04, 2023, 04:16:29 PM

It's been ages since we purchased from Land's End. I took a quick look at the website and, yes, there's been a major change in the ethnic diversity of the models.

Whether that reflects customer preferences or corporate policy, I don't know. I've purchased items from Asian online stores where most of the models were decidedly non-Asian. Imprinted ideals of beauty must surely influence consumers, and I can imagine the disappointment that Asian buyers feel when a dress doesn't look as good on them as it did on a slim, leggy blonde. Now that I think of it, the items I purchased from those stores weren't a good fit. I chose what I thought were the correct sizes, but the items were probably tailored on Asian fit models before going into mass production.


Victoria's Secret is another example that closely parallels Lands End. Their site features essentially the exact same clothes and undergarments worn by women of many different races and skin colors, and the models are very ethnically diverse.

Yes, it's marketing, and it makes perfect sense in context. Companies want to market their products to the widest possible audience, and by featuring a diversity of models/characters in their ads and on their sites, they're essentially saying, "Yes, our products are for you, too."



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