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Reply #120 on: January 10, 2019, 12:55:25 AM
@Athos_131:  I know you're ignoring me, but I'm still going to give you ammo in this fight.

The best argument against a self proclaimed GGwaG on the internet is the Minute of Angle test.  Just ask them to brag about their shot groups at 200 yards.  

A minute of angle is 2" at 200 yards.  (The Zero point, where the trajectory stops going up, and then starts going down, in a parabolic curve)  A gun nut, that's never zeroed his rifle, will brag about a "Sub MoA" gun he doesn't own.  I've seen claimed shot groups, with a pistol, as small as 6 seconds of angle.  1/10 of a minute, which is not just impossible, but With A Pistol.  Even if you can get that with it clamped into a vice (Called a Bench Rest) your heartbeat will shake it off the mark just holding it in your hand.  There's no such thing as a Minute of Angle pistol, because the human arm is not capable of that level of accuracy.

That's why most cops miss, in the kind of firefight they obstensibly train for (Depends on the agency.  Marines call the FBI "Accountants with guns" because they count hits to the frame holding the target as "Hits.")  They primarily carry, and fire handguns, which quite honestly, are not capable of that level of accuracy, unless it's clamped into a vice.

The only way a Rifle is, is with the stock in your shoulder, 2 hands on it, and preferably laying out prone on the ground, to hold it steady enough.  With a bipod, to add 2 more points of stability.  (The arms are the 3rd leg of the Tripod.)  Unless you have that level of stability, and a target as static as a paper clamped to a bullet trap, anything more than 5 Minutes of Angle is more accuracy than the Shooter is capable of.

If they don't know that, they're not a Goodguy with a Gun.  They're an idiot with a keyboard.



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Reply #121 on: January 10, 2019, 01:14:08 AM
Oh ....It would be so nice to have a Gatling Gun from the 1800's......
 ;D

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Reply #122 on: January 10, 2019, 01:16:16 AM
Oh ....It would be so nice to have a Gatling Gun from the 1800's......

I would love Lewis gun.  Of all ye olde timey machineguns (And precursors) I want a pan fed Lewis with the cooling jacket, and a bipod.



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Reply #123 on: January 10, 2019, 01:19:23 AM
Oh ....It would be so nice to have a Gatling Gun from the 1800's......

I would love Lewis gun.  Of all ye olde timey machineguns (And precursors) I want a pan fed Lewis with the cooling jacket, and a bipod.

Horse Drawn Gatling Gun....with a good gun crew...!!!!
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Reply #124 on: January 10, 2019, 01:22:36 AM
Horse Drawn Gatling Gun....with a good gun crew...!!!

Okay, I see you, and raise you:

TankBuchse

Maybe we should continue this in the Gun Nuts thread, before anybody mistakes us for assholes with guns?



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Reply #125 on: January 10, 2019, 01:30:48 AM
WW1
Germany
Water Cool Machine Gun (MG 08)...
450 - 500 rounds per minute.

"Lets play safe out there kiddies."

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Reply #126 on: January 10, 2019, 01:49:21 AM
"Lets play safe out there kiddies."

"I can do this all day."

~Captain America.  (Ret.)



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Reply #127 on: January 20, 2019, 02:32:58 AM

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Reply #128 on: January 23, 2019, 04:00:37 PM

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Reply #129 on: January 24, 2019, 06:36:27 AM

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Reply #130 on: January 24, 2019, 05:31:47 PM
Police identify officer involved in accidental shooting of colleague during Lafayette incident

#Resist

Interesting......when police shoot other police officers (even by accident).
You don't hear anyone screaming their heads off about civil rights, protest marches,
political rallies (against police)....in fact the dog even got a byline in the story.
so apparently with apathetic American "it's okay for police to shoot police", we won't be bother by it.....but damn if you can shoot anybody else...!!!
Gotta love it.

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Reply #131 on: January 24, 2019, 05:48:47 PM
Interesting......when police shoot other police officers (even by accident).
You don't hear anyone screaming their heads off about civil rights, protest marches,
political rallies (against police)....in fact the dog even got a byline in the story.
so apparently with apathetic American "it's okay for police to shoot police", we won't be bother by it.....but damn if you can shoot anybody else...!!!
Gotta love it.

Evil feeds upon itself.

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Reply #132 on: January 24, 2019, 05:53:44 PM
so apparently with apathetic American "it's okay for police to shoot police", we won't be bother by it.....but damn if you can shoot anybody else...!!!

At least other police are armed, and trained to accept the possibility that they might be killed in the line of duty.  As opposed to unarmed black kids, who grow up in fear of being shot for "Fitting the description," and the cops "Fear for their lives."

That's the difference.  That's why there's outcry when an unarmed black kid is shot.  It's not the line of duty, it's punishing the Crime of being born black in America.  Police sign up to be shot at, and they're armed to defend themselves.  Not to defend themselves against unarmed kids that strike fear into their hearts by being black.

One thing I don't hear is the "I feared for my life!" excuse in cases of accidental blue-on-blue gun violence.  Blue isn't a race, so it's not a hate-crime.



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Reply #133 on: January 31, 2019, 12:50:05 PM

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Reply #134 on: February 11, 2019, 03:51:29 PM


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Reply #135 on: February 11, 2019, 03:55:51 PM

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Reply #136 on: February 11, 2019, 03:57:37 PM
Honestly, nobody should have a pistol grip 12 gauge.  They're useless.



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Reply #137 on: February 11, 2019, 04:26:02 PM
And another...


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Reply #138 on: February 11, 2019, 04:59:36 PM
Any pics of men being idiots with guns?

Or are we going down one road?

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Reply #139 on: February 11, 2019, 05:47:02 PM
I’ve seen more of those on YouTube than I am comfortable with. And I’ve seen all genders who do stupid things with guns, or have too mulch gun for them to handle. I’ve shot a .44 mag revolver, and it only reinforced my distaste for revolvers. They are not well designed for the hand.

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