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DrRick947

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on: September 25, 2009, 02:59:47 PM
Hi all ...

I run a small financial consulting company in New England and yesterday was my 62nd birthday.  My assistant, a 26-year-old Asian girl, greeted me with a "Happy Birthday" when I got to work yesterday.  Then she followed me into my office and closed the door.

"I didn't have enough money left over this month to buy you a birthday present," she said, looking down shyly.  I thought to myself, "Oh great, the first thing I get on my birthday is a request for a raise."  I said something like, "You don't need to get me anything ... working with you is enough of a gift for me" (or something like that).

Then she continued, "So would it be okay if I gave you a blowjob?"

I don't know about you guys, but I don't think the sentence, "Would it be okay if I gave you a blowjob?" has ever been spoken to me before.  Anyway, permission was granted and the gift was gratefully received (and it was truly outstanding!). 

My dilemma now: she deserves a raise (and deserved it before yesterday) but if I give her one, she might be able to afford a real gift on the next special occasion.  What a letdown that would be.  What do you think I should do? 



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Reply #1 on: September 25, 2009, 07:06:10 PM
here's this for a suggestion if you feel comfortable enough doing so - find out when her birthday is. return the favour. then afterwards, give her an envelope with the raise in it. :) although if she's just *had* a birthday, may not be a good idea to make her wait an entire year for it..

[and ... maybe this is a pure fantasy on your part, so if it is, forgive me for interjecting a note of reality: but by associating sex with her with a raise in any way, indeed, by having sex with her at all, you do lay yourself open for a sexual harrassment suit... or at least, in in the UK you probably would. i'm not a lawyer so bear that in mind, but still - be careful, please?]

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Reply #2 on: September 25, 2009, 10:36:06 PM
Excellent advice in both paragraphs, Lari ... thank you!

This is not fantasy on my part (I came to this section because it's called "TRUE Sex Stories by Members").  I grappled with the sexual harassment issue in my mind this morning and the decided the odds of this thing backfiring on me are small -- especially if this turns out to have been a one-off event.  There were no witnesses and there was no Bill Clinton-type evidence.  She does not seem like the "kiss and tell" (or blow-and-tell) type but I will stay alert to any rumors.

Her birthday is January 13 so that gives me a little time to think this matter through.  It will also give me a chance to see where she might want this to go, if anywhere.

I would dearly love to return the favor AND give her a nice year-end bonus check (in my company, everyone gets a bonus if we can afford it).  I could do both of those things before the Christmas holidays so she has some money in her pocket for Christmas shopping.  She will receive an annual merit pay raise in May and it will be for work performance, not sexual favors (I think she knows me well enough to know that).

Again, thanks for the advice.  I'll report back toward year-end.   ;D



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Reply #3 on: September 26, 2009, 12:35:30 AM
you're welcome, DrRick!

i didn't think it was fantasy, but there was the risk it was wishful thinking type true stories, you know?

i think what you've laid out is a great idea, seperating the raise from the sexual stuff. what you could maybe do for her birthday is a sort of joke chequebook, with cheques to the tune of various sexual type treats - i'm sure they're prevalent in the US as they are here - if you think she might like that? or perhaps just a simple IOU note?

and yep, do let us know how you get on. if nothing else, you can always claim you're too broke to give her a xmas present.. all those company bonuses you gotta pay.. ;)

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make "...no apologetic nature for one’s own sexuality..." (said by paper hearts).. truer words never spoken.


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Reply #4 on: September 26, 2009, 05:24:54 AM
Can I cum work for you, Dr. Rick?  --  XXOO Gwen



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Reply #5 on: September 28, 2009, 04:17:58 PM
Thanks for the idea, Lari ... I'll work on that and see what I can come up with.

As for all those bonuses I gotta pay, I pay all I can and never more than I can afford.  My self-imposed rule is that everybody contributes to the effort so everybody reaps the rewards - even the newest secretary.  I already have my reward -- I own the company.

Still, the bonus I got from my assistant on my birthday WAS nice.   ;D



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Reply #6 on: September 28, 2009, 04:27:51 PM
That would depend on how the personal interview goes, Gwen.  I will check out your background … and, of course, your frontground.  If all goes as planned, we would move to a penetrating, in-depth interview that is sure to leave you with a warm feeling inside.  Just let me know what you would like to do …  ;)



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Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 08:22:03 PM
Thanks for the idea, Lari ... I'll work on that and see what I can come up with.

As for all those bonuses I gotta pay, I pay all I can and never more than I can afford.  My self-imposed rule is that everybody contributes to the effort so everybody reaps the rewards - even the newest secretary.  I already have my reward -- I own the company.

Still, the bonus I got from my assistant on my birthday WAS nice.   ;D

you're welcome.. :) and its nice to see an ethical, moralistic (in a good way) employer - could do with more guys like you around.. :D

(but then we'd have lots of guys walking around with smiles like the one i bet you had that day.. LOL.. which wouldn't be a bad thing!)

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Reply #8 on: September 29, 2009, 02:44:02 PM
Thank you for the kind words.  One of the fun things about owning a business is that, as the owner, you can do or try just about anything you want.  If an idea works, you keep it.  If it doesn’t, you pay for it in the marketplace.  After 17 years, most of my ideas – especially those related to the ways we value and support our people – seem to be working.  At least, that’s what client satisfaction, profitability, and turnover figures are telling me.  (Turnover refers to employee retention, not to revenues as in the UK.)

As to that smile on my face, yeah … I had the look of a man well sated (a sated satyr?!).  In fact, I don’t remember much about the rest of the day (did anything else important happen?).

Looking back on it, this was the least likely event at the least likely time and place by the least likely person I could ever have imagined.  And it was exquisite.  This girl knew what she was doing.  She swallowed everything; then went into the washroom for a warm wet towel and cleaned me up. 

I was drained yet energized and stayed hard for about 30 minutes afterward.  She even asked if I took Viagra or something (“Nope”).  With partners like her, who needs Viagra?  At the least invitation, I would have screwed her for the rest of the morning.  All I could think of was, as Bogart said in Casablanca, “I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.”   ;D

Ah, well … time to get to work here.  More later, and thanks for the reply!



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Reply #9 on: September 29, 2009, 04:58:09 PM
Thank you for the kind words.  One of the fun things about owning a business is that, as the owner, you can do or try just about anything you want.  If an idea works, you keep it.  If it doesn’t, you pay for it in the marketplace.  After 17 years, most of my ideas – especially those related to the ways we value and support our people – seem to be working.  At least, that’s what client satisfaction, profitability, and turnover figures are telling me.  (Turnover refers to employee retention, not to revenues as in the UK.)

yep.. i think we're starting to use the term here too - but with "employee" tacked on the front to differentiate from revenues.

Looking back on it, this was the least likely event at the least likely time and place by the least likely person I could ever have imagined.  And it was exquisite.  This girl knew what she was doing.  She swallowed everything; then went into the washroom for a warm wet towel and cleaned me up. 

I was drained yet energized and stayed hard for about 30 minutes afterward.  She even asked if I took Viagra or something (“Nope”).  With partners like her, who needs Viagra?  At the least invitation, I would have screwed her for the rest of the morning.  All I could think of was, as Bogart said in Casablanca, “I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.”   ;D

lucky.. lucky guy.... that's interesting though.. that she went into the washroom for the warm towel.. very service orientated. I expect that came from her culture - a lovely thought. I'll have to remember that one.. :)

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Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 09:25:22 AM
DrRick

I'm sorry but I think you are nuts.  She sounds like a good employee and you risked it all because she offered you a blowjob?  Sexual harrassment doesn't really require evidence, only a woman that appears honest although the situation doesn't sound like one where that was her initial intention.  But everything now is going to be tinged by the sex.  If you criticise something she does she will resent you.  After all she gave you a blowjob and should of course cut her some slack.  If you praise her she will think it is because of the blowjob not because she did something well.

My secretary got very drunk once and took all her clothes off when we got back to the office and told me to fuck her.  I called my female office manager who helped me very carefully redress my secretary and then took her home for me.  She called in sick the following Monday and then called up and offered to resign.  I told her to come into work.  She was incredibly embarrised but because I didn't do anything all that she had done wrong was strip and I could easily live with that.  I told her that she was drunk and people do silly things drunk.  I would forget about it if she did.  And I kept one of the best secretaries I ever had.

You simply cannot be the boss of a company and have sex with staff, no matter what.  Made public and your business could be ruined for one stupid blowjob.  No matter how loyal or nice, she only needs to feel slighted and you are in trouble.  If you are single, and really like her, date her openly.  That solves the problem nicely.  Otherwise hope nothing ever goes wrong.  This is a terrific fantasy and a nightmare in real life.

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Reply #11 on: October 01, 2009, 07:25:40 AM
DrRick

I'm sorry but I think you are nuts.  She sounds like a good employee and you risked it all because she offered you a blowjob?  Sexual harrassment doesn't really require evidence, only a woman that appears honest although the situation doesn't sound like one where that was her initial intention.  But everything now is going to be tinged by the sex.  If you criticise something she does she will resent you.  After all she gave you a blowjob and should of course cut her some slack.  If you praise her she will think it is because of the blowjob not because she did something well.

My secretary got very drunk once and took all her clothes off when we got back to the office and told me to fuck her.  I called my female office manager who helped me very carefully redress my secretary and then took her home for me.  She called in sick the following Monday and then called up and offered to resign.  I told her to come into work.  She was incredibly embarrised but because I didn't do anything all that she had done wrong was strip and I could easily live with that.  I told her that she was drunk and people do silly things drunk.  I would forget about it if she did.  And I kept one of the best secretaries I ever had.

You simply cannot be the boss of a company and have sex with staff, no matter what.  Made public and your business could be ruined for one stupid blowjob.  No matter how loyal or nice, she only needs to feel slighted and you are in trouble.  If you are single, and really like her, date her openly.  That solves the problem nicely.  Otherwise hope nothing ever goes wrong.  This is a terrific fantasy and a nightmare in real life.

Man Rick, what a buzz kill that was, yes I realize that your comments are the appropriate response, but damn it I want to have the thought in the back of my head that it is a possibility/fantasy.

Geez... I bet you were a hall monitor. lol


All above statements are made in good humor.



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Reply #12 on: October 01, 2009, 05:32:31 PM
Sorry for the delay in posting.  Yesterday was the last day of the quarter and it was a busy day for our firm.

Good catch on the “service” aspect, Lari; I missed that entirely.  Ironically, that’s the precise reason I hired her.  She is accommodating without being obsequious, and she has a quality I value: anticipation.  She is great at figuring out what people will need in a situation and providing it before it’s needed and without being asked.  Plus, her secretarial skills are great.

About the event in question, yeah, the towel was a wonderful touch.  It turned the encounter from outstanding to extraordinary.  It blew my mind (and that’s not all!). 

Lord, I would love to return the favor.  The girl who taught me to eat pussy was bi and, from what I’m told, she did a good job.  And I never even wrote to thank her …  ;D


Ric9009, No need to be sorry that you think I’m nuts.  You post reminds me of the Microsoft help desk: the advice is often absolutely accurate but completely unhelpful in the present situation.  It’s like telling a man he should not have stepped in front of that bus after he’s already laying in the street. Knowing what I should have done is of no help now; it’s only shooting where the rabbit was. 

There is much truth in what you say, of course.  A good rule for everyone might be, “Do not mix sex and work.”  That would mean no sex with employees, peers, superiors, customers, suppliers, job applicants, or anyone else one might know through work.  (The rule should apply to liquor, too.)

But sex at work happens.  Sometimes we live to regret it, other times we don’t.  Any deviation from a rule nixing sex and work involves taking a risk.  In this case, I think that risk is low and manageable.  Almost a week later it appears that she has no regrets; I may have more than she does.

A sexual harassment complaint would probably have very little impact on us in our marketplace.  We work mainly with CEOs and CFOs; their concern is their money, not others’ sexual involvements.  As long as we make money for them, they’re happy.

By the way, sexual harassment claims do have to have some evidentiary basis.  Otherwise, people could just go around leveling accusations and collecting financial settlements.  Often the evidence is circumstantial, though.

If I were ever involved in a sexual harassment complaint over an incident like this, my reaction would be, “Go for it: sue.”  The complainant would talk to a lawyer, who will realize she has no money and scant evidence and tell her to drop it.  As I said, I doubt that will happen in this case.

In the present situation, an open relationship might be worse than a one-off blowjob due to our age difference (at this time, at least).  It might give the impression that she is a slut and I am a Sugar Daddy.  In the best case, that could lead to nasty gossip.  In the worst case, if the relationship did not work out, the potential fallout from an acrimonious breakup could be ugly.

I have faced situations similar to the one you describe, Ric9009.  In one case, a female subordinate had a few too many drinks and wanted me to screw her.  Worse, we were hosting a seminar at a hotel and had to stay overnight.  She would not leave my room.  Yet she was having some major psychological issues and having sex with her would have been exploitative and wrong.  I let her sleep in my room and I fell asleep on the sofa.

The next morning she was sober, embarrassed, and apologetic.  I was sympathetic and tried to let her know that her value to me was between her ears, not between her thighs (not in those words, of course).  We put the matter behind us and became closer colleagues than we had been before.

The question stands: what should I do now?  In puckish and randy moments I say, “Go for it!”  In more rational moments I say, “It happened; don’t let it happen again.”  I think I’ll play it cool for now and see what happens.




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Reply #13 on: October 02, 2009, 07:49:47 AM
It take no offence at all at either of the comments.  Although I'd rather like to think I'm not quite as bad as Microsoft.  I take things as I find them.  This is true stories so I take it as true, sorry to upset the fantasy though daporn.  It does make a terrific fantasy but I'll tell you a story about work that perhaps makes a better one.  It depends a bit on your fantasies I guess.

We are talking about New England right?  CEO and CFOs answer to shareholders, boards and wives.  If you think that they only care if you make them money, I must live on a different planet but hey you know your business.  And law is my business.  Sexual harrassment suits don't require much proof at all and the average lawyer would not drop the case you have outlined.  For starters do you know what happened to the towel?  You mentioned Clinton.  Lewinski kept the dress stains and all. 

Unfortunately I see the worse situations where action is taken or threatened but the good news is that most situations like this don't end up that way.  But they often don't have good outcomes in other ways such as the employee leaving.  I think your current approach seems to be the most sensible.  Play it low key and just see what happens.  But my approach certainly stuffs up the fantasy and doesn't do much for the very pleasant memory either.

So for those that like the fantasy I'll provide a couple of true stories that happened in my office.  I'm not going to say what my business is, aside from the fact that it often has legal aspects that I advise on, but a major event occurred that meant that my business took on around 60 extra staff for a few months and was handling thousands and thousands of files.  Keeping track of so many files was a nightmare and I hired four juniors, 15 year old girls.  Their job was to find files and do other scud work as it came up.  On top of that we also hired a bunch of typists that worked a second evening shift to keep up with the enormous paperwork that needed to be generated.  One of those typists was what you could call a free spirit who flirted outrageously mostly with me but there was four managers and she flirted with those two including the female one.

One of the juniors and the flirtatious typists are linked but I'll get to that.

We were working extremely hard and I implimented a rather long lunch of Fridays as a way to relieve pressure.  Indeed, it was one of those lunches that resulted in my secretary stripping naked but that one I've already mentioned. 

We had a large open work area in one section of the building and one of the managers kept lingering in it and since he was in the middle of something urgent I started to wonder why, so I walked through the area and happened to look down.  One of the juniors was very cute.  She was short, althletic and with features that should belong to someone older because it made her too sexy for 15.  Big blue eyes, long dirty blonde hair, turned up nose, bee stung lips and a sway to her walk that suggested a great deal especially considering how short she wore her dresses or skirts.  She was sitting on the floor with her shoes off, legs wrapped around a box sorting through files, leaning over the box.  At first I thought the manager had been staring at her breasts, which I realised that when she moved forward were completely exposed as her cross over dress gaped outwards but that wasn't it.  He dress was hiked up because her legs were spread and she was not only not wearing a bra, she wasn't wearing any panties either.  She wasn't a natural blonde but a redhead which surprised me at the same time as realising that having a 15 year old displaying her breasts and genitals in one of our main office areas was perhaps not the most appropriate things to do.

I was not going to touch this matter with a barge pole and called the female manager and asked her to talk to the girl.  She had seen me looking at her and rather than even attempt to pull down her dress she just half smiled at me and kept on working.

This was not my day for female staff.  The day before I had been asked if the second shift of typists could dress casually since no one else was in the office.  I had made the comment that I didn't care if they went naked as long as they did the work.  Late that afternoon the flirtatious typist came in to start her shift wearing a beach wrap saying she was almost late because she fell asleep on the beach (about two minutes from our office).  She waited until she had my full attention and then took off the wrap.  She was naked underneath, which the other typists thought hilarious.  I could see the humour in it and she certainly was attractive but when she didn't put anything on and sat down to start working still naked, I had to say that perhaps I needed to amend the dress code to: I didn't care what anyone wore as long as it did not distract other staff and what she was not wearing was extremely distracting.  She eventually put her wrap on again but even so it didn't really cover her well and she kept opening it up whenever I came into the room.  I figured that it really wasn't my day for staff clothing issues and called upon my trusty female manager again to talk to her.

The trouble was that this was a Friday and we had been to lunch.  We had drunk a fair bit and my office manager had drunk a great deal.  Actually she would have gone home because I normally wouldn't have allowed someone to be in the office under the weather so to speak but she couldn't drive and was waiting for her husband to pick her up after his work.  I figured she could still handle the typist though.  Silly me.

About forty minutes later I came out to find the typist missing and went to the office manager's office and as was my normal practice I simply walked in while starting to say something.  The 15 year old was in the chair with her legs spread wide and my office manager between her legs on all fours.  The typist was behind her driving a dildo into her quite virgourously.  The typist turned around at the opening of the door and suggested I should join them.  And in my entire life that was the only time I could have been part of a Penthouse Forum letter (now that's showing my age), at least excluding my private life which shall remain private. 

OK, let your fantasies run wild.  The reality was no fun at all but I'm sure that is not going to stop someone's imagination.  Because of the incident I found out that the office manager had been carrying on an affair with both the junior and the typist but being drunk had meant she stopped being discrete and decided to combine the two.  So having her deal with issues that I had was not the best of ideas at all.  Actually, the events wouldn't make a bad story for one of the other sections if someone wanted to enhance it a bit.

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Reply #14 on: October 05, 2009, 04:12:24 PM
Thanks very much for this.  A lot has happened since my last post (all good, btw).  Anyway, I apologize for not responding until now.

In your last post you said, “CEO and CFOs answer to shareholders, boards and wives.  If you think that they only care if you make them money, I must live on a different planet but hey you know your business.”  You’re right: I do know my business, and those people could not care less that the managing director of a consulting company they employ is having an affair with his secretary.  As long as I make money for them, they are as happy as clams at high tide.

You also said, “… the average lawyer would not drop the case you have outlined.  For starters do you know what happened to the towel?  You mentioned Clinton.  Lewinski kept the dress stains and all.”

I’m sure a person with a complaint could find a hungry young lawyer, or someone at a non-profit women’s center to represent her.  Or the complainant could turn to a state agency, where the case backlog is 3 – 4 years.  Most of the lawyers I have known would listen to the complaint, determine that the complainant had no money, and advise her to look for another job.  It may not be right or just, but people are limited to getting just as much justice as they can afford.

I would point out a few differences between the Clinton situation and my own.  First, I am not President of the United States.  Second, I am not married.  Third, I did not cum on the girl’s dress.  Fourth, she did not tell a friend she was pissed because I was not giving her enough attention.  Fifth, it would come as no surprise to anyone that my DNA was on my washcloth and towel; it’s my washroom.  Sixth, the news media would have no interest in the story.  Seventh, the laundry is accounted for; otherwise, I would have been billed for a missing towel and washcloth.  Except for that, the situations are the same.

Your story is interesting and, if I were into fantasizing, it could surely provoke a good stroke session.  It also reminded me of the reasons why I do not use underage girls for clerical help.  First, their clerical speed and accuracy is too unreliable.  Second, they are too easily distracted.  Third, I am too easily distracted!

“A man’s gotta know his limitations,” they say.  And a sexy young teenager is the last thing in this world I need to complicate matters.  Happily, I don’t need one.

More later.   ;D